[Rikkter]

I think we just got lucky that he ended up in the spirit library to broadcast his location and he was scrambling to make some shit up as to why he was there.

[Rikkter]

Unless someone convinces me as to why not vote for him.

Vote Tiamatha

[Spite]

Rikkter, on 19 December 2014 - 04:59 PM, said:

Isn't this exactly what you wanted Spite? Now we have no choice but to track it down and kill it or whoever is it.

It was the only choice we ever had, clearly.

[Tholen]

Vote Tiamatha

[Korlat]

Vote Tiamatha

[Rikkter]

No, if the goal is to destroy a snowman and you know who will eventually build the snowman, if you stop them, the snowman will not be built. Same end result. There is no snowman.

Because if it was like you said then we could have just started on day 5 with the Dark Avatar already there. Anyway, it doesn't matter now.

I think our only way to win is to lynch the proper folks. I really doubt I will be able to use my firebending successfully. Still have to guess who to pick anyway.

[Tholen]

I don't know how many LPs he will have. I can guard a person on the same tile. I think ability wise we'll have to work together.

[Korbas]

Rikkter, on 19 December 2014 - 05:04 PM, said:

I think we just got lucky that he ended up in the spirit library to broadcast his location and he was scrambling to make some shit up as to why he was there.

The way I see it, Tia could be Korra or Unalaq.

Tia's play has been far more scummy than townie, so I'll reverse myself

Vote Tiamatha

[Tholen]

Rikkter no guessing. Tiamatha was 100% Unalaq

[Rikkter]

Tiamatha, on 19 December 2014 - 03:56 PM, said:

Tennes, on 19 December 2014 - 03:53 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 19 December 2014 - 03:50 PM, said:

Tennes, on 19 December 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

Spite, on 19 December 2014 - 03:26 PM, said:

Jesus H...You two are either illiterate retards or you don't have the same overall VC wording as I do.

I am sure that we do have the same phrasing.However, I also have an ability that PREVENTS movement.Imagine for a second that Tiamatha really is Unalaq, and I just keep guarding them eternally. Does the Dark Avatar ever get created? No. Does town win? Yes. That is a victory scenario where NO ONE ever dies. Is that the typical, or even an explicitly stated victory condition in a standard game of mafia? Nope, but still valid. (In scenarios where town cannot kill the scum but scum cannot gain parity, town win)That is just one way in which the game can be won without "fulfilling the explicit VC" I think killing Unalaq will work just as well.

So I am assuming you had me guarded so that I could not move last night?

I tried to do so. Unfortunately, movement takes place before movement impairing ability, so yeah. Vote TiamathaReveal or explain why you are so desperately hopping around in the spirit realm (trying to reach the tree) that also precludes you from reavling your identity (Unalaq).

I am not in the spirit realm anymore jackass. My astral projection has a limit on it until I use it a certain amount of times. So I am now back in my body in the physical realm in Republic City.*Changed not to now

Guess where Tiamatha probably isn't. Republic City.

[Tennes]

Suggestion;

If we fail on this lynch due to lynch proofing, do we want to co-ordinate and spread out, or group together?

IE

I heal person X, the person who can re-direct attacks targets tiamatha and forces them to NK person X, so they don't die or are out of range.

I need to be in the same area as them for it to work though.

[Rikkter]

Does anyone know what is the reach on personal abilities? Anyone have something that proves you can use it on someone a tile over?

My ability to find and arrest Varrick had only the reach of the tile I was currently at.

[Tennes]

Rikkter, on 19 December 2014 - 05:33 PM, said:

Does anyone know what is the reach on personal abilities? Anyone have something that proves you can use it on someone a tile over?

My ability to find and arrest Varrick had only the reach of the tile I was currently at.

AFAIK the "redirection" talent has no range limit, forget who owns that one.

[Tholen]

Person has to be on same tile to be guarded.

[Silanah]

Rikkiter earlier in game I redirected Tennes action, to you, so did you get a random message about whatever Tennes did?

Been wondering.

[Rikkter]

Nope, no messages.

[Spite]

Rikkter, on 19 December 2014 - 05:26 PM, said:

No, if the goal is to destroy a snowman and you know who will eventually build the snowman, if you stop them, the snowman will not be built. Same end result. There is no snowman.

Because if it was like you said then we could have just started on day 5 with the Dark Avatar already there. Anyway, it doesn't matter now.

I think our only way to win is to lynch the proper folks. I really doubt I will be able to use my firebending successfully. Still have to guess who to pick anyway.

I guess we will see when we get to SH, won't we.

[Spite]

Tholen sounds pretty adamant, I am willing to vote Tiam. If they are indeed the DA, I doubt it will be so easy, maybe something even worse than an LP. Presumably there may be some way we're supposed to work together to defeat the DA.

[Tholen]

Information is what is needed now. Not before dark avatar was born but now

[Ultama]

Ok, great, all sorts of shit is going down. At least one thing Rikker said is correct - our argument no longer matters now that the Dark Avatar is here.

Tennes, on 19 December 2014 - 05:30 PM, said:

Suggestion;

If we fail on this lynch due to lynch proofing, do we want to co-ordinate and spread out, or group together?

IE

I heal person X, the person who can re-direct attacks targets tiamatha and forces them to NK person X, so they don't die or are out of range.

I need to be in the same area as them for it to work though.

Aside from this tile/action logic, which is obvious, I don't think we should assume that the Dark Avatar is going to be completely limited to tile restrictions like we are. At least, I would have to guess for the DA to be as powerful as the OP suggests (literally, "Team Avatar vs. Dark Avatar" - all of town vs. one player), he must have some powerful shit up his sleeve.