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Quantum Mafia It sounds wrong - that's why it's quantummechanically correct

#741 User is offline   Korabas 

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 08:16 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 10 November 2014 - 10:36 PM, said:

I got a scum result from Omtose.



View PostTelas, on 11 November 2014 - 10:22 PM, said:

Why are we so sure to say there is only one finder left

I am more inclined to believe Ampelas on his find than Meanas for obvious reasons.


Telas, since we haven't heard from you, this is pretty damning. Ampelas lied about being the town finder. Meanas was the town finder as is proven by his correct find.

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 08:31 PM

I did get a scum find from Omtose. That was on day 3 or 4. I had a find up until last night. I no longer have a find.

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 08:49 PM

I am still waiting for your Chart with kill orders, only me and you know exactly why you do not want to provide it. If you even change it once, Serc will be able to tell. I did provide it, as I have nothing to hide, so why don't you?

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 10:29 PM

Alright, I am here now.

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 10:33 PM

Before I read up the only thing that is a bit off for me is that Amp was the only person to say that he still had finds, while everyone was saying how theirs were suspended. Is it possible he took a guess when he claimed my find as town and got lucky?

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 10:35 PM

View PostMeanas, on 12 November 2014 - 04:47 PM, said:

People who I have done a find on and the remaining people in the game.

Town
Kalse, Serc, Omtose, Telas, GL

Scum
Alkend


Remaining players

Alkend, Ampelas, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kalse, Korabas, Meanas, Ruse, Serc, Telas


Possible remaining scum

Ampelas, Eloth, Korabas, Ruse

Doing a find on Ampelas

If I die tonight then one of the above are scum.


He was also the next in line for a find so maybe that made him nervous and eliminated the Finder.

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 10:36 PM

Meanas specifically said who he was going to find in what order. Any other scum player wouldnt be really alarmed if there were not next and would probably work to their advantage.

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 10:36 PM

I meant MeanAss

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 10:40 PM

View PostMeanas, on 11 November 2014 - 10:16 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 11 November 2014 - 09:51 PM, said:

I got a town result from Telas fwiw.



Yeah your lying. There is only one finder and you are not him. If I had not gotten a scum result from Alkend I would be voting for you right now.


Meanas said it right there, we settled the day before that he was the only finder remaining. Meanas called him on it.

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 11:11 PM

DAY 4

View PostAmpelas, on 07 November 2014 - 08:58 PM, said:

Votes Telas

He has not been targeted to my knowledge unless people want to correct me.


View PostMeanas, on 07 November 2014 - 09:35 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 07 November 2014 - 08:58 PM, said:

Votes Telas

He has not been targeted to my knowledge unless people want to correct me.


I did a find on him. He came back town.


View PostAmpelas, on 11 November 2014 - 09:33 AM, said:

View PostTelas, on 11 November 2014 - 01:47 AM, said:

Here is the deal:

I put a find on Ampelas, Kill order on Kalse.

No reason, just random.


This for tonight? I put my find on Telas and kill on Serc


MeanAss was the first to find me and it is possible Amp took that find an used it as his own.

View PostAmpelas, on 10 November 2014 - 10:36 PM, said:

I got a scum result from Omtose.


DAY 5
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DAY 6

View PostAmpelas, on 11 November 2014 - 09:51 PM, said:

I got a town result from Telas fwiw.

View PostRuse, on 11 November 2014 - 01:36 PM, said:

I've got player 1 narrowed down to three players.

Player 2 to six players.

Player 11 to three players.

Player 12 to seven players.



Ruse this is you putting numbers next to alts. You haven't got a fucking clue. If player x is more than 5 players then your just flinging shit to see what sticks.


Why did you wait one full day to say I am Town? No one was talking about me at the time.

View PostAmpelas, on 12 November 2014 - 07:20 AM, said:

I got a result last night but nothing like Meanas is claiming. If the finder is Meanas then my results must have been right up to now? If the finder has been told surely scum a has been told?

I have no idea otherwise why my find went through.


What was the result?

View PostAmpelas, on 12 November 2014 - 02:17 PM, said:

I cannot believe Meanas' reveal after what transpired yesterday. Without the reveal he would be on the chopping block today, picking Alkend (who has been absent a lot) and therefore may not defend himself. If Ruse is saying one of Meanas and I is player number 3 then it must be Meanas. I don't think a finder has been established yet because a few people still have finds, and no one is 100% scum yet. I guess we can test his reveal by lynching Alkend but what if he only needs one wrong lynch before being in a winning position? I don't know.

Remove Vote

4 players could be scum at this point. Meanas is lying about being the only finder or PS did not inform everyone that their find is gone.

Vote Meanas


Can you please show me what other people say that have finds apart from MeanAss? I cant find it, but I might have missed it and maybe its there.

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 11:16 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 12 November 2014 - 03:46 PM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Alkend


We test this, because if Alkend is town then Meanas is scum.


One thing Im thinking about is why would he lynch Alkend is he was trying to pull something, when that would only validate the true finder - MeanAss - at the time.

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 01:42 AM

Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1..........88%...12%...88%.....12%
2..........89%...11%...81%.....19%
3..........91%....9%...85%.....15%
4..........41%...59%...93%......7%
5..........69%...31%...92%......8%
6..........79%...21%...82%.....18%
7..........86%...14%...83%.....17%
8..........41%...59%...89%.....11%
9..........76%...24%...76%.....24%
10........77%...23%...87%.....13%
11........86%...14%...75%.....25%
12........93%....7%...73%.....27%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Number of possible realities: 309



Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1..........80%...20%...70%.....30%
2..........92%....8%...78%.....22%
3..........91%....9%...83%.....17%
4..........38%...62%...93%......7%
5..........76%...24%...89%.....11%
6..........53%...47%...84%.....16%
7..........83%...17%...81%.....19%
8..........45%...55%...91%......9%
9...........0%..100%..100%......0%
10........68%...32%...87%.....13%
11........79%...21%...73%.....27%
12........78%...22%...68%.....32%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Number of possible realities: 179


Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1..........62%...38%..100%......0%
2..........70%...30%...61%.....39%
3..........93%....7%...53%.....47%
4..........62%...38%...61%.....39%
5..........93%....7%...61%.....39%
6..........47%...53%...84%.....16%
7..........64%...46%..100%......0%
8..........23%...77%...77%.....23%
9...........0%..100%..100%......0%
10........70%...30%..100%......0%
11........77%...23%..100%......0%
12.........0%...100%..100%.....0%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Number of possible realities: 13



Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1..........0%...100%..100%.....0%
2........100%...0%.....0% ..100%
3..........0%...100%....0%...100%
4..........0%...100%..100%.....0%
5..........0%...100%..100%.....0%
6........100%.....0%..100%.....0%
7........100%.....0%..100%.....0%
8..........0%...100%..100%.....0%
9...........0%..100%..100%......0%
10.........0%...100%..100%.....0%
11........100%.....0%..100%.....0%
12.........0%...100%..100%.....0%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Edit: Highlights!

This post has been edited by Korabas: 13 November 2014 - 02:42 AM


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Posted 13 November 2014 - 01:43 AM

View PostRuse, on 11 November 2014 - 10:05 PM, said:

Well, Meanas' kill reveals put a damper on those estimations. If he killed Ampelas last night, then I don't think Ampelas can be 3, as number 3's aliveness rose today.


This.

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 02:52 AM

Don't when I will be on next, so I'll cast my vote now.

Korabas, if you end up scum, then fuck you. But at least you put more effort into the game. If you not, then fuck you anyway.

Vote Ampelas

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 06:49 AM

View PostTelas, on 12 November 2014 - 10:36 PM, said:

Meanas specifically said who he was going to find in what order. Any other scum player wouldnt be really alarmed if there were not next and would probably work to their advantage.


Korabas knowing that I would come up town eliminated Meanas which makes you think that. Korabas is scum

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 06:52 AM

I'll be at a computer in a few hours. Korabas has done his homework and it will bite us all in the ass.

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 07:11 AM

View PostMeanas, on 11 November 2014 - 09:56 PM, said:

How about we lynch ALkend cause I got a positive find on him and then I will do a find on Ampelas tonight.

Here are my action lists as there is now no reason to not reveal it.

Night 4

Find on

Telas

Kill Korabas

Night 5

Find

GL

Kill

Korabas



Yes I found Korabas a little irritating for a couple of days in a row. Every find came back town except for the last one which came back scum.


Serc look at this information, it is all right there and compare it to the daily numbers.

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 08:40 AM

Kill Merrid

Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1.........100%....0%...85%.....15%
2.........100%....0%...82%.....18%
3.........100%....0%...85%.....15%
4..........82%...18%...90%.....10%
5..........78%...22%...83%.....17%
6.........100%....0%...82%.....18%
7..........91%....9%...83%.....17%
8..........88%...12%...81%.....19%
9..........92%....8%...82%.....18%
10.......100%....0%...88%.....12%
11.......100%....0%...77%.....23%
12.......100%....0%...79%.....21%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Number of possible realities: 773

Kill Meanas

Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1..........93%....7%...83%.....17%
2..........91%....9%...85%.....15%
3.........100%....0%...86%.....14%
4..........55%...45%...92%......8%
5..........78%...22%...83%.....17%
6.........100%....0%...82%.....18%
7..........91%....9%...85%.....15%
8..........69%...31%...83%.....17%
9..........76%...24%...80%.....20%
10.......100%....0%...85%.....15%
11.......100%....0%...77%.....23%
12.......100%....0%...77%.....23%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Number of possible realities: 576

Kill Omtose

Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1..........79%...21%...85%.....15%
2..........86%...14%...85%.....15%
3..........90%...10%...86%.....14%
4..........53%...47%...91%......9%
5..........67%...33%...87%.....13%
6..........94%....6%...77%.....23%
7..........87%...13%...86%.....14%
8..........57%...43%...86%.....14%
9..........76%...24%...78%.....22%
10........89%...11%...83%.....17%
11........94%....6%...72%.....28%
12........94%....6%...80%.....20%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Number of possible realities: 361

Kill Ruse

Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1..........88%...12%...88%.....12%
2..........89%...11%...81%.....19%
3..........91%....9%...85%.....15%
4..........41%...59%...93%......7%
5..........69%...31%...92%......8%
6..........79%...21%...82%.....18%
7..........86%...14%...83%.....17%
8..........41%...59%...89%.....11%
9..........76%...24%...76%.....24%
10........77%...23%...87%.....13%
11........86%...14%...75%.....25%
12........93%....7%...73%.....27%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Number of possible realities: 309

Kill Serc

Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1..........80%...20%...70%.....30%
2..........92%....8%...78%.....22%
3..........91%....9%...83%.....17%
4..........38%...62%...93%......7%
5..........76%...24%...89%.....11%
6..........53%...47%...84%.....16%
7..........83%...17%...81%.....19%
8..........45%...55%...91%......9%
9...........0%..100%..100%......0%
10........68%...32%...87%.....13%
11........79%...21%...73%.....27%
12........78%...22%...68%.....32%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Number of possible realities: 179

Kill Galayn Lord

Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1..........62%...38%..100%......0%
2..........70%...30%...61%.....39%
3..........93%....7%...53%.....47%
4..........62%...38%...61%.....39%
5..........93%....7%...61%.....39%
6..........47%...53%...84%.....16%
7..........64%...46%..100%......0%
8..........23%...77%...77%.....23%
9...........0%..100%..100%......0%
10........70%...30%..100%......0%
11........77%...23%..100%......0%
12.........0%...100%..100%.....0%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Number of possible realities: 13

I can no longer perform kills.

Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1..........0%...100%..100%.....0%
2........100%...0%.....0% ..100%
3..........0%...100%....0%...100%
4..........0%...100%..100%.....0%
5..........0%...100%..100%.....0%
6........100%.....0%..100%.....0%
7........100%.....0%..100%.....0%
8..........0%...100%..100%.....0%
9...........0%..100%..100%......0%
10.........0%...100%..100%.....0%
11........100%.....0%..100%.....0%
12.........0%...100%..100%.....0%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Number of possible realities: 1

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 08:55 AM

View PostAmpelas, on 13 November 2014 - 08:40 AM, said:

Kill Merrid

Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1.........100%....0%...85%.....15%
2.........100%....0%...82%.....18%
3.........100%....0%...85%.....15%
4..........82%...18%...90%.....10%
5..........78%...22%...83%.....17%
6.........100%....0%...82%.....18%
7..........91%....9%...83%.....17%
8..........88%...12%...81%.....19%
9..........92%....8%...82%.....18%
10.......100%....0%...88%.....12%
11.......100%....0%...77%.....23%
12.......100%....0%...79%.....21%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Number of possible realities: 773

Kill Meanas

Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1..........93%....7%...83%.....17%
2..........91%....9%...85%.....15%
3.........100%....0%...86%.....14%
4..........55%...45%...92%......8%
5..........78%...22%...83%.....17%
6.........100%....0%...82%.....18%
7..........91%....9%...85%.....15%
8..........69%...31%...83%.....17%
9..........76%...24%...80%.....20%
10.......100%....0%...85%.....15%
11.......100%....0%...77%.....23%
12.......100%....0%...77%.....23%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Number of possible realities: 576

Kill Omtose

Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1..........79%...21%...85%.....15%
2..........86%...14%...85%.....15%
3..........90%...10%...86%.....14%
4..........53%...47%...91%......9%
5..........67%...33%...87%.....13%
6..........94%....6%...77%.....23%
7..........87%...13%...86%.....14%
8..........57%...43%...86%.....14%
9..........76%...24%...78%.....22%
10........89%...11%...83%.....17%
11........94%....6%...72%.....28%
12........94%....6%...80%.....20%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Number of possible realities: 361

Kill Ruse

Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1..........88%...12%...88%.....12%
2..........89%...11%...81%.....19%
3..........91%....9%...85%.....15%
4..........41%...59%...93%......7%
5..........69%...31%...92%......8%
6..........79%...21%...82%.....18%
7..........86%...14%...83%.....17%
8..........41%...59%...89%.....11%
9..........76%...24%...76%.....24%
10........77%...23%...87%.....13%
11........86%...14%...75%.....25%
12........93%....7%...73%.....27%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Number of possible realities: 309

Kill Serc

Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1..........80%...20%...70%.....30%
2..........92%....8%...78%.....22%
3..........91%....9%...83%.....17%
4..........38%...62%...93%......7%
5..........76%...24%...89%.....11%
6..........53%...47%...84%.....16%
7..........83%...17%...81%.....19%
8..........45%...55%...91%......9%
9...........0%..100%..100%......0%
10........68%...32%...87%.....13%
11........79%...21%...73%.....27%
12........78%...22%...68%.....32%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Number of possible realities: 179

Kill Galayn Lord

Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1..........62%...38%..100%......0%
2..........70%...30%...61%.....39%
3..........93%....7%...53%.....47%
4..........62%...38%...61%.....39%
5..........93%....7%...61%.....39%
6..........47%...53%...84%.....16%
7..........64%...46%..100%......0%
8..........23%...77%...77%.....23%
9...........0%..100%..100%......0%
10........70%...30%..100%......0%
11........77%...23%..100%......0%
12.........0%...100%..100%.....0%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Number of possible realities: 13

I can no longer perform kills.

Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1..........0%...100%..100%.....0%
2........100%...0%.....0% ..100%
3..........0%...100%....0%...100%
4..........0%...100%..100%.....0%
5..........0%...100%..100%.....0%
6........100%.....0%..100%.....0%
7........100%.....0%..100%.....0%
8..........0%...100%..100%.....0%
9...........0%..100%..100%......0%
10.........0%...100%..100%.....0%
11........100%.....0%..100%.....0%
12.........0%...100%..100%.....0%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Number of possible realities: 1


You never targeted Alkend with a kill.

You targeted Meanas with a kill.

You do understand what you just put here right?

Serc, he said it. Not much else to put.

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 08:57 AM

View PostKorabas, on 11 November 2014 - 09:07 PM, said:

Alive to Scum Realities

Player 1- 8 to 0
Player 2- 9 to 6
Player 3- 12 to 6
Player 4- 8 to 5
Player 5- 12 to 5
Player 6- 6 to 2
Player 7- 8 to 0
Player 8- 3 to 3
Player 9- Dead
Player 10- 7 to 0
Player 11- 7 to 0
Player 12-Dead
Player 13-Dead

Total Realities: 13

Inference:

Player 1- 0%
Player 2- 66%
Player 3- 50%
Player 4- 63%
Player 5- 42%
Player 6- 33%
Player 7- 0%
Player 8- 100%
Player 9- 0%
Player 10- 0%
Player 11- 0%
Player 12- 0%
Player 13- 0%


This is after Meanas' reveal, he doesn't comment on it and it is a way to look like your contributing when you're actually not.

View PostKorabas, on 11 November 2014 - 09:11 PM, said:

Who do we all think player 8 is? Cause if we determine and lynch the correct person the secondary killer will resolve.



After Meanas asks him about his find, he ignores it

View PostKorabas, on 11 November 2014 - 09:41 PM, said:

We haven't reduced the overall number down to the 3 realities, we need to focus on the player that is alive the most and the most scum to reduce it the most again. Catch my meaning?



View PostKorabas, on 11 November 2014 - 09:50 PM, said:

We have the options of going with the find Meanas has given us, figure out who player three is, or reviewing information in earlier posts to deduce scum. I don't mind waiting for some other people to chime in as I am going to consider the best action.



Meanas was killed because he was going to find me innocent, Korabas has played a clever game so far

View PostMeanas, on 11 November 2014 - 09:56 PM, said:

How about we lynch ALkend cause I got a positive find on him and then I will do a find on Ampelas tonight.

Here are my action lists as there is now no reason to not reveal it.


Night 1

Find Kalse

Kill Ruse


Night 2


Find

Serc

Kill

Eloth


Night 3

Find

Omtose

Kill Galayn Lord


Night 4

Find on

Telas

Kill Korabas

Night 5

Find

GL

Kill

Korabas

Night 6

Find

Alkend

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Yes I found Korabas a little irritating for a couple of days in a row. Every find came back town except for the last one which came back scum.



Now he mentions he has lost his ability to find, I think this is a lie, I think 5 players had a find but only meanas was the True finder, when all those people died last night it hid Korabas pretty well behind their actions.

View PostKorabas, on 11 November 2014 - 10:03 PM, said:

I am going to go with Meanas plan, unless someone can break up his argument. I have no problem of placing my vote in a different direction and we can easily hold Meanas accountable. I lost my ability to find.

Vote Alkend



He blindly followed Meanas' reveal, I was one of the only people going against what Meanas was saying because I had a find. There is no way in which I believed him as I believed he was lying and therefore scum.

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