[Ruse]

Meanas, on 11 November 2014 - 11:48 PM, said:

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Would you say that you are alive in approximately 8 realities?

That was a hypothetical I will not want to come close to the modkill line. As such I will not engage in this line of inquiry.

Yeah, you're right of course. I apologise and retract the question.

[Meanas]

Ruse I also suggest that you don't engage in line that line of inquiry. I have spoken to ps and discussing your own percentages equates to discussing your number.

[Meanas]

Ruse, on 11 November 2014 - 11:51 PM, said:

Meanas, on 11 November 2014 - 11:48 PM, said:

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Would you say that you are alive in approximately 8 realities?

That was a hypothetical I will not want to come close to the modkill line. As such I will not engage in this line of inquiry.

Yeah, you're right of course. I apologise and retract the question.

Cross post

[Ruse]

So the info's out there, however good it may be, I have as 100% town:

(Probably) Meanas; Kalse; Serc OR Telas (not both); and Korabas.

[Ampelas]

I got a result last night but nothing like Meanas is claiming. If the finder is Meanas then my results must have been right up to now? If the finder has been told surely scum a has been told?

I have no idea otherwise why my find went through.

[Alkend]

Ruse, on 12 November 2014 - 12:46 AM, said:

So the info's out there, however good it may be, I have as 100% town:

(Probably) Meanas; Kalse; Serc OR Telas (not both); and Korabas.

My scum find result was on Serc. Do with that whatever you like.

[Serc]

Alkend, on 12 November 2014 - 08:19 AM, said:

Ruse, on 12 November 2014 - 12:46 AM, said:

So the info's out there, however good it may be, I have as 100% town:

(Probably) Meanas; Kalse; Serc OR Telas (not both); and Korabas.

My scum find result was on Serc. Do with that whatever you like.

Thats nice, but I am 100% town, that's why I posted every single one of my kill orders and urged every other sure town and likely town to do the same

[Alkend]

Serc, on 12 November 2014 - 09:22 AM, said:

Alkend, on 12 November 2014 - 08:19 AM, said:

Ruse, on 12 November 2014 - 12:46 AM, said:

So the info's out there, however good it may be, I have as 100% town:

(Probably) Meanas; Kalse; Serc OR Telas (not both); and Korabas.

My scum find result was on Serc. Do with that whatever you like.

Thats nice, but I am 100% town, that's why I posted every single one of my kill orders and urged every other sure town and likely town to do the same

I already said before that the result turned from scum to town. So this is not trying anything, merely proving that finds get updated with possible realities. If anything, it would prove your switch to a more townie percentage.

So, not a try. Merely completing the picture I painted before without naming names (then).

[Alkend]

As for lynching me on account of Meanas' find: I am all for lynching and have been the entire game. I also know that lynching usually gets it wrong a couple of times

I know my player number and I won't claim I am 100% town, therefore, there is a possibility I am scum and therefore, I make a decent lynch. I am confused with regard to Meanas' claim of me being guaranteed scum. If I am, then I ought to have a 100% scum reflection in the percentages, yet in most of the realities available (by far larger than my scum %), I am town. I have played to the best of my ability and time constraints as such, too.

Anyway, it is hard to defend yourself when you know you're mostly town but can be scum, also since there's a claimed find that rolled high enough to get into the scum percentage.

[Kalse]

Ruse, on 11 November 2014 - 10:01 PM, said:

As Kalse has apparently been doing something similar, I'd like to know what they think.

I think:

"Woah, what the fuck happened to thread? Quiet for a week and a bit then explodes. I think the rushed lynched have been pointless and that if people had gone with putting their full info on thread then everyone would be able to look through and narrow down which alt is which."

Alas, I'm rather rather busy today and probably tomorrow too. I am told I can no longer perform finds and, as anyone who has joined the dots knows, can no longer perform kills. I'm now actually RI. I have given thread the briefest of skims. All you people, put your NK targets for each night out there. We can narrow down exactly who is scum and who ins't from the players that lost aliveness on particular nights.

I have no more time than this today, sorry. If reality hasn't collapsed in 24 hours I will have more time then

[Path-Shaper]

It is day 6. 18 hours and 40 minutes left.
Players aktive: Alkend, Ampelas, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kalse, Korabas, Meanas, Ruse, Serc, Telas
5 votes needed for a lynch/night

2 vote for Alkend (Meanas, Korabas)
1 vote for Meanas (Telas)
1 vote for Ruse (Ampeals)
1 vote for GL (GL)

[Ampelas]

I cannot believe Meanas' reveal after what transpired yesterday. Without the reveal he would be on the chopping block today, picking Alkend (who has been absent a lot) and therefore may not defend himself. If Ruse is saying one of Meanas and I is player number 3 then it must be Meanas. I don't think a finder has been established yet because a few people still have finds, and no one is 100% scum yet. I guess we can test his reveal by lynching Alkend but what if he only needs one wrong lynch before being in a winning position? I don't know.

Remove Vote

4 players could be scum at this point. Meanas is lying about being the only finder or PS did not inform everyone that their find is gone.

Vote Meanas

[Ruse]

@ Alkend: Are you saying that you still have a find, or are you talking about previous finds on Serc?

[Serc]

Vote Alkend

Lets see what happens.

[Meanas]

Ampelas, on 12 November 2014 - 02:17 PM, said:

I cannot believe Meanas' reveal after what transpired yesterday. Without the reveal he would be on the chopping block today, picking Alkend (who has been absent a lot) and therefore may not defend himself. If Ruse is saying one of Meanas and I is player number 3 then it must be Meanas. I don't think a finder has been established yet because a few people still have finds, and no one is 100% scum yet. I guess we can test his reveal by lynching Alkend but what if he only needs one wrong lynch before being in a winning position? I don't know.

Remove Vote

4 players could be scum at this point. Meanas is lying about being the only finder or PS did not inform everyone that their find is gone.

Vote Meanas

Exactly what reason would I have to lie? How could I possibly be able to win if I was scum with 10 fucking player left? Seriously that is not a scum move.

I think that the players who are at a high percentage of being scum haven't had their find removed yet. But I am towns finder. If you lynch me you are lynching towns finder period. Honestly at this point I don't care. Lynch me and I laugh at you in SH don't and I try to find scum.

[Ampelas]

Meanas, on 12 November 2014 - 03:07 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 12 November 2014 - 02:17 PM, said:

I cannot believe Meanas' reveal after what transpired yesterday. Without the reveal he would be on the chopping block today, picking Alkend (who has been absent a lot) and therefore may not defend himself. If Ruse is saying one of Meanas and I is player number 3 then it must be Meanas. I don't think a finder has been established yet because a few people still have finds, and no one is 100% scum yet. I guess we can test his reveal by lynching Alkend but what if he only needs one wrong lynch before being in a winning position? I don't know.

Remove Vote

4 players could be scum at this point. Meanas is lying about being the only finder or PS did not inform everyone that their find is gone.

Vote Meanas

Exactly what reason would I have to lie? How could I possibly be able to win if I was scum with 10 fucking player left? Seriously that is not a scum move.

I think that the players who are at a high percentage of being scum haven't had their find removed yet. But I am towns finder. If you lynch me you are lynching towns finder period. Honestly at this point I don't care. Lynch me and I laugh at you in SH don't and I try to find scum.

I think we may have to test your reveal but if Alkend comes back as town then i'm voting you next

[Ampelas]

Ampelas, on 12 November 2014 - 03:22 PM, said:

Meanas, on 12 November 2014 - 03:07 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 12 November 2014 - 02:17 PM, said:

I cannot believe Meanas' reveal after what transpired yesterday. Without the reveal he would be on the chopping block today, picking Alkend (who has been absent a lot) and therefore may not defend himself. If Ruse is saying one of Meanas and I is player number 3 then it must be Meanas. I don't think a finder has been established yet because a few people still have finds, and no one is 100% scum yet. I guess we can test his reveal by lynching Alkend but what if he only needs one wrong lynch before being in a winning position? I don't know.

Remove Vote

4 players could be scum at this point. Meanas is lying about being the only finder or PS did not inform everyone that their find is gone.

Vote Meanas

Exactly what reason would I have to lie? How could I possibly be able to win if I was scum with 10 fucking player left? Seriously that is not a scum move.

I think that the players who are at a high percentage of being scum haven't had their find removed yet. But I am towns finder. If you lynch me you are lynching towns finder period. Honestly at this point I don't care. Lynch me and I laugh at you in SH don't and I try to find scum.

I think we may have to test your reveal but if Alkend comes back as town then i'm voting you next

You would only know this if you are one of those players? That's a few people still with finds. Is that a slip? You have a high percentage of being scum but you "are" a finder....

[Ruse]

If Meanas is THE finder as they claim, then they must be the finder in each of the 13 remaining realities. If Alkend were to come up town (almost a two in three chance of that happening, probably. About 8 of the 13 realities), then Meanas must die in the night, and we would be cut down to those realities where Meanas was no longer alive and Alkend was town (say, 5 remaining realities).


So if Alkend turns up town AND Meanas survives the night, then they would be the logical choice for the next lynch, as they could not have been the true finder that they claimed to be.

[Meanas]

Ampelas, on 12 November 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 12 November 2014 - 03:22 PM, said:

Meanas, on 12 November 2014 - 03:07 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 12 November 2014 - 02:17 PM, said:

I cannot believe Meanas' reveal after what transpired yesterday. Without the reveal he would be on the chopping block today, picking Alkend (who has been absent a lot) and therefore may not defend himself. If Ruse is saying one of Meanas and I is player number 3 then it must be Meanas. I don't think a finder has been established yet because a few people still have finds, and no one is 100% scum yet. I guess we can test his reveal by lynching Alkend but what if he only needs one wrong lynch before being in a winning position? I don't know.

Remove Vote

4 players could be scum at this point. Meanas is lying about being the only finder or PS did not inform everyone that their find is gone.

Vote Meanas

Exactly what reason would I have to lie? How could I possibly be able to win if I was scum with 10 fucking player left? Seriously that is not a scum move.

I think that the players who are at a high percentage of being scum haven't had their find removed yet. But I am towns finder. If you lynch me you are lynching towns finder period. Honestly at this point I don't care. Lynch me and I laugh at you in SH don't and I try to find scum.

I think we may have to test your reveal but if Alkend comes back as town then i'm voting you next

You would only know this if you are one of those players? That's a few people still with finds. Is that a slip? You have a high percentage of being scum but you "are" a finder....

I lost my kill and was informed that I am towns finder. There can not be another finder who can find scum. Once I am dead there are no more finders. However I think that there are some realities left where people have finds. But they are not a finder in the realities where there is scum. If they where then I would not be towns finder. The fact that I am towns finder means that their finds are meaningless. They can not find scum. I don't understand why you find this so hard to understand. It is simple I am the finder. I found Alkend as scum. We lynch ALkend all realities that are not that reality are eliminated. The second killer is fully revealed and he kills me. Thus my reality is concluded and town is with out a finder but only has to worry about one killer. In that scenario there remain 8 players 7 of whom are town and one of whom is scum. Those are pretty good odds for a town win. Anything else is playing for scum not for town.

[Meanas]

Ruse, on 12 November 2014 - 03:37 PM, said:

If Meanas is THE finder as they claim, then they must be the finder in each of the 13 remaining realities. If Alkend were to come up town (almost a two in three chance of that happening, probably. About 8 of the 13 realities), then Meanas must die in the night, and we would be cut down to those realities where Meanas was no longer alive and Alkend was town (say, 5 remaining realities).


So if Alkend turns up town AND Meanas survives the night, then they would be the logical choice for the next lynch, as they could not have been the true finder that they claimed to be.

Exactly.