[Galayn Lord]

I threw the Alpha elimination out as a possibility. It's the first one that comes to mind.

I'm using the java version on OS X. It doesn't have an "undo last action" option that I can find. So no testing any hypothesis, for me at least.


and, ok, nvm.


Yeah, Liz I'm fine with that.

[Korabas]

Path-Shaper, on 07 November 2014 - 06:01 PM, said:

It seems the program deleted all information and actions from night 2. If everyone is ok with it I will simply process that again. That means that you might get different finder results for night 2 though.

Ok, thankfully that information was wrong, cause it was making my head hurt.

[Galayn Lord]

@Ruse How's your spirit of cooperation? Feel like sharing with the group yet?

[Galayn Lord]

ouch. this is likely to hurt btw. Some of those players who lost life this round are likely about to lose some more.

[Ruse]

Galayn Lord, on 07 November 2014 - 05:12 PM, said:

Since I know you're here, how about answering that before the results come in?

You don't know I'm around and no, I was not around.


The answer to this is easy. Notice how I have also not asked anyone to just reveal their number. Because I feel that's going too far. That's not gaming the system, that's just not playing the game. Your number is supposed to be secret to you, hence it was given to you by PS in a PM. Revealing actions is different, because those are your own actions and you can choose what to do with them and what others know about them - they were not given to you by someone else, i.e. PS, with the intention of bein kept hidden.


So while it is helpful when the likes of you and Eloth presumably honestly reveal your player numbers, to me that's not really playing the game, and I never asked you to do it.

[Eloth]

Galayn Lord, on 07 November 2014 - 06:09 PM, said:

@Ruse How's your spirit of cooperation? Feel like sharing with the group yet?

When I read the thread this morning all I could hear was your evil chuckling when you posted this.

Quote

But you're depending upon group finds. That's not happening.


Hell, as far as I can recall, you have not even worked towards that. If you want a group find then propose one dammit.

"Hey, everyone do a find on X".

The fact that you haven't done so while consistently resisting a lynch leads me to believe that you think you've found a way to game the system for you. Or you're bone stupid.

[Korabas]

A thought. Can we use this information as we have two sets of statistical data, one showing our actions from day one to two and another from day one to three. We collapsed less realities on our actions we took going from day one to three if the above information is correct and what PS stated that day two actions were deleted and lost. Should we toss this information out as useless, or see if we can learn from it?

[Path-Shaper]

Current status on all players:
Player - alive - dead -town - scum
1..........88%...12%...88%.....12%
2..........89%...11%...81%.....19%
3..........91%....9%...85%.....15%
4..........41%...59%...93%......7%
5..........69%...31%...92%......8%
6..........79%...21%...82%.....18%
7..........86%...14%...83%.....17%
8..........41%...59%...89%.....11%
9..........76%...24%...76%.....24%
10........77%...23%...87%.....13%
11........86%...14%...75%.....25%
12........93%....7%...73%.....27%
13.........0%...100%..100%.....0%

Number of possible realities: 309

[Galayn Lord]

Korabas, on 07 November 2014 - 06:16 PM, said:

A thought. Can we use this information as we have two sets of statistical data, one showing our actions from day one to two and another from day one to three. We collapsed less realities on our actions we took going from day one to three if the above information is correct and what PS stated that day two actions were deleted and lost. Should we toss this information out as useless, or see if we can learn from it?

You're right, that should be helpful.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. The clock is frozen with 36 hours left.
Players aktive: Alkend, Ampelas, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kalse, Korabas, Merrid, Meanas, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Telas
6 votes needed for a lynch/night

1 vote for Eloth (Eloth)

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 07 November 2014 - 11:15 PM

[Galayn Lord]

Ruse, on 07 November 2014 - 06:15 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 07 November 2014 - 05:12 PM, said:

Since I know you're here, how about answering that before the results come in?

You don't know I'm around and no, I was not around.


The answer to this is easy. Notice how I have also not asked anyone to just reveal their number. Because I feel that's going too far. That's not gaming the system, that's just not playing the game. Your number is supposed to be secret to you, hence it was given to you by PS in a PM. Revealing actions is different, because those are your own actions and you can choose what to do with them and what others know about them - they were not given to you by someone else, i.e. PS, with the intention of bein kept hidden.


So while it is helpful when the likes of you and Eloth presumably honestly reveal your player numbers, to me that's not really playing the game, and I never asked you to do it.

Now who is talking like they're above the fray? "Man is not the rational animal, he is the rationalizing animal." - Samuel Clemens

[Galayn Lord]

Eloth, on 07 November 2014 - 06:16 PM, said:

When I read the thread this morning all I could hear was your evil chuckling when you posted this.

I always chuckle evilly.

Now get your vote off yourself.

Anyone have good guesses who 9,11, and/or 12 are? They're our best bet to collapse to scum. Although 1 in 4 isn't great.

[Ruse]

Galayn Lord, on 07 November 2014 - 06:30 PM, said:

Ruse, on 07 November 2014 - 06:15 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 07 November 2014 - 05:12 PM, said:

Since I know you're here, how about answering that before the results come in?

You don't know I'm around and no, I was not around.


The answer to this is easy. Notice how I have also not asked anyone to just reveal their number. Because I feel that's going too far. That's not gaming the system, that's just not playing the game. Your number is supposed to be secret to you, hence it was given to you by PS in a PM. Revealing actions is different, because those are your own actions and you can choose what to do with them and what others know about them - they were not given to you by someone else, i.e. PS, with the intention of bein kept hidden.


So while it is helpful when the likes of you and Eloth presumably honestly reveal your player numbers, to me that's not really playing the game, and I never asked you to do it.

Now who is talking like they're above the fray? "Man is not the rational animal, he is the rationalizing animal." - Samuel Clemens

And? That's not exactly negating what I have said, now is it? Should we all just reveal our player numbers? Oh what a fun game that would be, you sure know how to throw a party Galayn.


I'm done with this anyway. I'm done with trying to use the unique tools and the novel opportunity before us as town. My imitial optimism was clearly ill-placed. Come Monday I'm just playing fucking normal mafia. I'll read the thread, tell you who I think is scummy and why, and vote for them.

[Korabas]

Galayn Lord, on 07 November 2014 - 06:34 PM, said:

Eloth, on 07 November 2014 - 06:16 PM, said:

When I read the thread this morning all I could hear was your evil chuckling when you posted this.

I always chuckle evilly.

Now get your vote off yourself.

Anyone have good guesses who 9,11, and/or 12 are? They're our best bet to collapse to scum. Although 1 in 4 isn't great.

Look at this players 9, 11, and 12 are players that aren't getting any attention and in my someone staying out of the fray. Ruse, I really hope this day to day changed your mind about voting for night. We need to coordinate efforts and quickly.

[Galayn Lord]

Ruse, on 07 November 2014 - 06:36 PM, said:

I'm done with this anyway. I'm done with trying to use the unique tools and the novel opportunity before us as town. My imitial optimism was clearly ill-placed. Come Monday I'm just playing fucking normal mafia. I'll read the thread, tell you who I think is scummy and why, and vote for them.

And if we had lynched earlier we'd have some 100% town now. And still have the option of not lynching in case of doubts.

Now we have neither. And I have such a solid grip on leading the thread.

[Galayn Lord]

Korabas, on 07 November 2014 - 06:38 PM, said:

Look at this players 9, 11, and 12 are players that aren't getting any attention and in my someone staying out of the fray.

My guess would be that they are most likely to be Omtose and Merrid. They've both been skirting modkill so "why bother targeting them for an action"?

[Eloth]

My vote stays......and hopefully others will add to it.

[Galayn Lord]

And why for should we do that?

[Eloth]

Galayn Lord, on 07 November 2014 - 06:46 PM, said:

And why for should we do that?

We need a lynch, and I would rather get lynched that slowly picked off by those who want to be scum.

[Korabas]

Galayn Lord, on 07 November 2014 - 06:45 PM, said:

Korabas, on 07 November 2014 - 06:38 PM, said:

Look at this players 9, 11, and 12 are players that aren't getting any attention and in my someone staying out of the fray.

My guess would be that they are most likely to be Omtose and Merrid. They've both been skirting modkill so "why bother targeting them for an action"?

I came to the same conclusion as they both voted night. I am placing my kill order on Omtose as this inaction is getting us nowhere. People can follow if they want as we need to come up with a strategy before all these realities collapse at endgame.

Vote Merrid