[Tiamatha]

Kedeviss asks the right question here;

Kedeviss, on 14 August 2014 - 01:59 PM, said:

Tholen, are you saying:

a - You are in the Underground Pool and PS has directly said escape is possible from there?

or

b - You are in the Underground Pool and were told the sonic boom was there, and are using that info to assume escape is possible from there but haven't directly had it confirmed from PS?

(or C - something else)

because Togg says

Togg, on 14 August 2014 - 01:49 PM, said:

Shit what a clusterfuck of thread.. The good news is it looks like it might be possible to start escaping now. As I wasn't in the Underground pool and per the night scene my guess from the message I received regarding the Sonic boom that it happened in these locations last night Underground Pool, Bar and Lounge. But I could be wrong.

and then Tholen stupidly assumes

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 01:54 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 14 August 2014 - 01:38 PM, said:

It sounds like the Sonic Boom comes from the room you are in.

Sonic boom was in the underground pool. Escape avenue is possible for escapers.

I think the bar was the right guess here as it was in the middle of the three locations mentioned. After being asked the question by Ked, does Tholen respond or disappear?


well his next post is a looooong time afterwards

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

Dragon, I want Tulas Shorn gone.

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 02:46 PM, said:

I can perform no actions while he "lives" in me. I have no mechanism to achieve my VCs. Just want him dead, don't care if it kills me in the process.

Basically it is not helpful to fellow escapees and it looks like sulking. Now most people think the Underground Pool is the place to escape from when they should have listened to Togg in the first place.

[Tiamatha]

I don't even know why I am spelling it out for them. Its not even my VC to help them but I don't mind as long as you people get your shit together.

[Tholen]

Did you miss the part where escape was possible and someone actually attempted to do it? They failed only because of an ability used by X.

I stupidly assumed that something that PS stated to be possible turned out to be possible? Yeah I'm such a fucking moron.

[Tulas Shorn]

Tholen, on 20 August 2014 - 11:59 AM, said:

Did you miss the part where escape was possible and someone actually attempted to do it? They failed only because of an ability used by X.

I stupidly assumed that something that PS stated to be possible turned out to be possible? Yeah I'm such a fucking moron.

Yes you are. That became evident when you betrayed me and quoted for fucking pages of our private conversation.

[Tennes]

Tulas Shorn, on 20 August 2014 - 12:04 PM, said:

Tholen, on 20 August 2014 - 11:59 AM, said:

Did you miss the part where escape was possible and someone actually attempted to do it? They failed only because of an ability used by X.

I stupidly assumed that something that PS stated to be possible turned out to be possible? Yeah I'm such a fucking moron.

Yes you are. That became evident when you betrayed me and quoted for fucking pages of our private conversation.

Tholen, any updates from the private conversation you'd like to share with thread, if only to annoy Tulas?

[Tholen]

Tulas Shorn, on 20 August 2014 - 12:04 PM, said:

Tholen, on 20 August 2014 - 11:59 AM, said:

Did you miss the part where escape was possible and someone actually attempted to do it? They failed only because of an ability used by X.

I stupidly assumed that something that PS stated to be possible turned out to be possible? Yeah I'm such a fucking moron.

Yes you are. That became evident when you betrayed me and quoted for fucking pages of our private conversation.

Waa waa.

Highly amusing you complaining about lack of privavy when you invaded my head and force me to share every single action I ever take with you. Where is my privacy?

[Tiamatha]

Tholen, on 20 August 2014 - 11:59 AM, said:

Did you miss the part where escape was possible and someone actually attempted to do it? They failed only because of an ability used by X.

I stupidly assumed that something that PS stated to be possible turned out to be possible? Yeah I'm such a fucking moron.

because they were on the fringes of the affected area. Three adjacent rooms, one with the big gaping hole, 2 with traps and death. What are you not understanding? If he went out via the bar he would have been okay.

[Tholen]

Tennes, on 20 August 2014 - 12:05 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 20 August 2014 - 12:04 PM, said:

Tholen, on 20 August 2014 - 11:59 AM, said:

Did you miss the part where escape was possible and someone actually attempted to do it? They failed only because of an ability used by X.

I stupidly assumed that something that PS stated to be possible turned out to be possible? Yeah I'm such a fucking moron.

Yes you are. That became evident when you betrayed me and quoted for fucking pages of our private conversation.

Tholen, any updates from the private conversation you'd like to share with thread, if only to annoy Tulas?

We haven't really spoken much since the reveal for obvious reasons. A few insults back and forth but nothing worth sharing really.

[Tulas Shorn]

Except for the part you beg me to not disable your defenses and I show you how impotent you are.

[Tholen]

Tiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 12:07 PM, said:

Tholen, on 20 August 2014 - 11:59 AM, said:

Did you miss the part where escape was possible and someone actually attempted to do it? They failed only because of an ability used by X.

I stupidly assumed that something that PS stated to be possible turned out to be possible? Yeah I'm such a fucking moron.

because they were on the fringes of the affected area. Three adjacent rooms, one with the big gaping hole, 2 with traps and death. What are you not understanding? If he went out via the bar he would have been okay.

Hah, since when are you an expert on mechanics you yourself admitted you have no interaction with?

[Tiamatha]

Telas, on 14 August 2014 - 03:08 PM, said:

Karosis, on 14 August 2014 - 03:00 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 14 August 2014 - 02:58 PM, said:

Karosis, on 14 August 2014 - 02:56 PM, said:

Omtose is already dead, dipshit.

oops, that's what I get for posting before thinking.

What about Mr.Telas?

Why Telas? I wouldn't be opposed to it, mind, just wondering what your reasoning is.

We need to get off this Tiam and Tulas Shorn kick if we're gonna actually proceed in this game, so I'm all up for the culture hunt to begin.

Yes what is your reasoning for wanting to lynch me? As for proceeding in the game. I think that we have done pretty well. We have removed two outsiders and the dragon from the game. Oh and it seems that for those of us who want to escape an opening has been created. So I am a little confused as to what you define proceeding in the game. As far as I am aware we have attempted to lynch Tiam to no effect but have not tried to lynch Tulas yet? Now he says that he can't be lynched but I would personally rather test it then believe him. Because by his own admission he is a denarian and while I have no beef with them personally I do not want to become one myself. I would also rather remove someone from the game who can take over other people and prevent (if we believe tholen) the use of abilities. Preventing the use also means the potential to use the abilities which leads me to wonder if it is possible that Tulas can post in Tholens alt at times. None of that is beneficial to me.


Dragon I want Tulas Shorn gone!!!

Telas claiming to want to escape? I'll keep an eye on things but he has pushed away from 2 factions already, if this is the opposite meaning then who/what is Telas?

[Tiamatha]

Tholen, on 20 August 2014 - 12:08 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 12:07 PM, said:

Tholen, on 20 August 2014 - 11:59 AM, said:

Did you miss the part where escape was possible and someone actually attempted to do it? They failed only because of an ability used by X.

I stupidly assumed that something that PS stated to be possible turned out to be possible? Yeah I'm such a fucking moron.

because they were on the fringes of the affected area. Three adjacent rooms, one with the big gaping hole, 2 with traps and death. What are you not understanding? If he went out via the bar he would have been okay.

Hah, since when are you an expert on mechanics you yourself admitted you have no interaction with?

but i have information and you didn't listen to Togg

[Tholen]

Fair enough, let's do this again then!

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 07:18 AM, said:

Move to Underground Pool

Wave at Kalse

Sleep

Path-Shaper, on 14 August 2014 - 07:28 AM, said:

Noted.

Tulas Shorn, on 14 August 2014 - 08:55 AM, said:

belay that

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 08:59 AM, said:

Welcome back parasite, enjoyed reading up? Who is winning the fight at the moment?

Do you really think you can cancel the once per day and unalterable room selection? Good luck with that. You AREN'T in control of everything.

Tulas Shorn, on 14 August 2014 - 09:01 AM, said:

I can just do anything.
Also, I AM unkillable.
Also, counter reveal time.

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 09:02 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 14 August 2014 - 09:01 AM, said:

I can just do anything.
Also, I AM unkillable.
Also, counter reveal time.

Yeah and I wasn't taken in for a fucking second that you were ever beneficial in any way to me, you may be unkillable, but the cat is out of the bag now. Good luck stay alive or hiding no matter what.

Tulas Shorn, on 14 August 2014 - 09:04 AM, said:

I don't need to do either of those.

[Tiamatha]

Kalse, on 14 August 2014 - 03:08 PM, said:

Kedeviss, on 14 August 2014 - 03:03 PM, said:

Tiam, I don't get what you're trying to point out/imply/ask/something about me there???

Tholen, can you PLEASE answer my question from 2 pages ago after your reveal of underground pool escape about whether it is mod-confirmed or not?

I can tell you I heard the Sonic Boom from a Location attached to the Pool.

or Kalse!

[Tiamatha]

Tulas can you not move him to a location first?

[Tholen]

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 09:18 AM, said:

belay that all you want asshat, we goin' to the fuckin' pool and thats FINAL.

Final Orders - Ironman Orders, if these orders are cancelled please consider them as submitted once again perpetually.

Wave at Kalse

Sleep

Path-Shaper, on 14 August 2014 - 09:19 AM, said:

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 09:18 AM, said:

belay that all you want asshat, we goin' to the fuckin' pool and thats FINAL.

Final Orders - Ironman Orders, if these orders are cancelled please consider them as submitted once again perpetually.

This doesn't fly. You have to put in new orders each day/night.

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 09:22 AM, said:

No day action

Night action

Sleep

Is Ironman for tonight allowed? If not, then just let the no day and sleep actions stand until asshat tulas does his next move.

Path-Shaper, on 14 August 2014 - 09:24 AM, said:

Your night action has been noted.

Tulas Shorn, on 14 August 2014 - 12:23 PM, said:

You do realize that you just saved my ass don't you?

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 12:35 PM, said:

Blah blah blah I don't care about anything you say. Game has MULTIPLE people actively seeking death, or goading others. Not putting much/any thought into it at the moment other than trying to screw you over.

Tulas Shorn, on 14 August 2014 - 12:36 PM, said:

If you don't care, why do you explain?

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 02:54 PM, said:

Move to Underground Pool

Ironman:

Wave at Tiamatha

Sleep

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 08:09 PM, said:

If you boost my sleep we will probably live through tonight, which means I will be able to setup our escape, and the escape of all the other humans tomorrow. So the question is how much of a dick are you?

Entirely up to you.

Tulas Shorn, on 14 August 2014 - 08:28 PM, said:

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 08:09 PM, said:

If you boost my sleep we will probably live through tonight, which means I will be able to setup our escape, and the escape of all the other humans tomorrow. So the question is how much of a dick are you?

Entirely up to you.

A giant dick whom you betrayed.

[Tholen]

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 08:31 PM, said:

Betrayed? This is mafia! You wanted me to trust you while trying to get yourself lynched, when you are in my fucking body? Of course I exposed you.

The opportunity is there, take it or destroy it. The choice is yours.

Tulas Shorn, on 14 August 2014 - 08:35 PM, said:

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 08:31 PM, said:

Betrayed? This is mafia! You wanted me to trust you while trying to get yourself lynched, when you are in my fucking body? Of course I exposed you.

The opportunity is there, take it or destroy it. The choice is yours.

Of course the choice is mine. You shall be on my list eternally.

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 14 August 2014 - 08:35 PM, said:

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 08:31 PM, said:

Betrayed? This is mafia! You wanted me to trust you while trying to get yourself lynched, when you are in my fucking body? Of course I exposed you.

The opportunity is there, take it or destroy it. The choice is yours.

Of course the choice is mine. You shall be on my list eternally.

Oh no, I'm on your list for not trusting you in a game built upon not trusting people.

Blow me.

Tulas Shorn, on 14 August 2014 - 08:38 PM, said:

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

Oh no, I'm on your list for not trusting you in a game built upon not trusting people.

Blow me.

No no no no. You're on my list because you lied to me.

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 08:39 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 14 August 2014 - 08:38 PM, said:

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

Oh no, I'm on your list for not trusting you in a game built upon not trusting people.

Blow me.

No no no no. You're on my list because you lied to me.

You lied to me too, does that mean you go on my list?

[Tholen]

Tulas Shorn, on 14 August 2014 - 08:41 PM, said:

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 08:39 PM, said:

You lied to me too, does that mean you go on my list?

If I lied, sure. You will see when you reach SH.Also, you tried to ruin my game because of your paranoia, that also counts.

Tulas Shorn, on 14 August 2014 - 08:44 PM, said:

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 08:43 PM, said:

Is this mafia? Is paranoia par for the course? Do I feel bad about playing like this?

Blow me.

With your reasoning:

Is this mafia? Is random cruelty encouraged? Do I feel bad about pursuing a vendetta?

blow me.

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 08:46 PM, said:

Go on then, give me the reason you were quite literally BEGGING to be lynched, that wasn't about to screw me over royally.

Tulas Shorn, on 14 August 2014 - 08:48 PM, said:

Tholen, on 14 August 2014 - 08:46 PM, said:

Go on then, give me the reason you were quite literally BEGGING to be lynched, that wasn't about to screw me over royally.

Did I get lynched though? No I didn't.
As you saw, I clearly had a LP.(don't go quoting this on thread as me saying I vulnerable for tomorrow, I'm not)
They tried to lynch me and you didn't die.

Tholen, on 19 August 2014 - 02:57 PM, said:

Ironman

Wave Togg

Sleep

Move to Bar

[Tiamatha]

Kalse, on 14 August 2014 - 03:17 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 14 August 2014 - 03:06 PM, said:

Kalse, on 14 August 2014 - 02:59 PM, said:

As for content, when did you ever contribute anything?
Oh, that's right, you are invulnerable so you don't have to, according to your principles.
Also, what was that again? You don't have a clue how to get to your victory condition because it wasn't spelled out 100%?

Gee, how unfair in a TMDI 10+ game!

That is, stupid.(trying to not call you retarded, because it seems like you don't like it)

Indeed I don't. I don't think mentally handicapped are having a great time in life or in society, and comparing people with them is imho pretty bad taste. Same as wishing diseases on people.

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Why would I contribute anything as an independent with no idea about who I need to reach my VC?

You try and find out, through contributing and dropping clues? I have a pretty good idea who is on mine, thanks to... doing something.
I don't understand why you can't see that most roles in the game are 'independent' or 'loosely affiliated': they have allies more than fixed partners. It's TMDI 10+ for a reason.

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Ideally I can keep to guy who can help me escape alive long enough to use his help and flee, but other than that I have no vested interest in getting anyone killed. (Except for Tholen)

Also, I want to ask if anyone on thread would be kind enough to state that they have a faction in their role PM.
I have this nagging voice in the back of my head saying " maybe everyone is independent in this game"

I have no faction in my role PM. I doubt anyone has in so many words, and at the same time, I do not doubt that a LOT of players need to co-operate with at the very least 1 or 2 others in order to win.

Like you.

Kalse claiming he has no faction. Not saying he is not an escapee but does raise my eyebrows where people are defending him. Surely if he knows of others or they know of him then that is a faction?

[Tholen]

Tiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 12:18 PM, said:

Kalse, on 14 August 2014 - 03:17 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 14 August 2014 - 03:06 PM, said:

Kalse, on 14 August 2014 - 02:59 PM, said:

As for content, when did you ever contribute anything?
Oh, that's right, you are invulnerable so you don't have to, according to your principles.
Also, what was that again? You don't have a clue how to get to your victory condition because it wasn't spelled out 100%?

Gee, how unfair in a TMDI 10+ game!

That is, stupid.(trying to not call you retarded, because it seems like you don't like it)

Indeed I don't. I don't think mentally handicapped are having a great time in life or in society, and comparing people with them is imho pretty bad taste. Same as wishing diseases on people.

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Why would I contribute anything as an independent with no idea about who I need to reach my VC?

You try and find out, through contributing and dropping clues? I have a pretty good idea who is on mine, thanks to... doing something.
I don't understand why you can't see that most roles in the game are 'independent' or 'loosely affiliated': they have allies more than fixed partners. It's TMDI 10+ for a reason.

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Ideally I can keep to guy who can help me escape alive long enough to use his help and flee, but other than that I have no vested interest in getting anyone killed. (Except for Tholen)

Also, I want to ask if anyone on thread would be kind enough to state that they have a faction in their role PM.
I have this nagging voice in the back of my head saying " maybe everyone is independent in this game"

I have no faction in my role PM. I doubt anyone has in so many words, and at the same time, I do not doubt that a LOT of players need to co-operate with at the very least 1 or 2 others in order to win.

Like you.

Kalse claiming he has no faction. Not saying he is not an escapee but does raise my eyebrows where people are defending him. Surely if he knows of others or they know of him then that is a faction?

Did you even bother to read what you underlined and try to understand it? Or are you purposefully creating strawman arguments?

He has no explicitly stated faction in his role PM and he doubts anyone does.
I agree with him, people are not likely to get;

Faction: Oda

in their PM, and it will be inferred or hinted at instead.