[Kalse]

Tiamatha, on 13 August 2014 - 08:30 AM, said:

You're not going to find him. He is well hidden. You also don't know what shit went down last night and I am not telling. Figure it out yourselves because game wise I am going to be a big pain in the ass, you have already made me stronger by lynching where I wanted you to lynch. Korvalian gave me my BP's when you killed him, you gave me Korbas' abilities too. You think one alt was strong? Well try lynch me again today

Then watch the havoc I reek at night. I am in such a good place right now. Near unkillable, and you have to find my last "shield" but when you do I will get his abilities as well. No day actions for me today, all about tonight baby. I have my targets

I have no doubt you reek at night. Now can you stop being a nuisance on thread and save the glory talk for Spoiler Heaven?

[Tholen]

Tiamatha, on 13 August 2014 - 08:30 AM, said:

You're not going to find him. He is well hidden. You also don't know what shit went down last night and I am not telling. Figure it out yourselves because game wise I am going to be a big pain in the ass, you have already made me stronger by lynching where I wanted you to lynch. Korvalian gave me my BP's when you killed him, you gave me Korbas' abilities too. You think one alt was strong? Well try lynch me again today

Then watch the havoc I reek at night. I am in such a good place right now. Near unkillable, and you have to find my last "shield" but when you do I will get his abilities as well. No day actions for me today, all about tonight baby. I have my targets

Dragon, I want Tiamatha gone!

Let's test this again today, if he is going to be a dick, we can take a look for his weak spots, but no harm in calling his bluff here.

[Tiamatha]

Kalse, on 13 August 2014 - 08:31 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 13 August 2014 - 08:25 AM, said:

I cannot believe you fuckers lynched Korbas when he didn't have a chance to defend himself! That is so naughty!

Straight on to trolling mode? Awesome.




----

One aspect of high-tmdi games I could do without is players who forget to play the game as they focus on night or feel invulnerable. In 2 and a bit gamedays, we've had you and Tulas behaving like dicks already. Just fucking great.

Well from my point of view, the whole thread has ganged up on me two days straight. All backing each other up and no one calling anyone else out. You think a player can take all that negativity and not be a dick? If this was a real life game, I would be feeling quite bullied in a way, but it is an online game and I admit, I drew too much attention early on and made many mistakes. None of you are focusing on the game at all. 2 people have been recruited by cult and you all wanted to lynch the guy that gave you information. Fair enough, well you lost some protection by lynching those two players, but at the same time you did make me quite strong. The problem is, even though I can survive the game I don't think I can win anymore.

So yeah, just focus on me. Don't look elsewhere. The recruiters and gangs are happy right now because they are figuring out who is in their teams, they are talking off thread, they are getting co ordinated and in the end only one faction will win. You think you are smart by targeting the independent, but you're not. You're getting weaker by the day!

[Tellan]

Another thing of note is that we have a combination of mafia, a game about killers, and clue, a game about killers, yet we haven't had any deaths.

[Tiamatha]

Can you guys humour me? Lynch PS and see if anything happens? It is TDMi 10 after all, just lets see if we can lynch him, if not then lynch me again.

Dragon, I want Path-Shaper Gone!

[Tiamatha]

Tellan, on 13 August 2014 - 08:37 AM, said:

Another thing of note is that we have a combination of mafia, a game about killers, and clue, a game about killers, yet we haven't had any deaths.

You may finally get a clue tomorrow if you guess right.

[Tellan]

Tholen, on 13 August 2014 - 08:35 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 13 August 2014 - 08:30 AM, said:

You're not going to find him. He is well hidden. You also don't know what shit went down last night and I am not telling. Figure it out yourselves because game wise I am going to be a big pain in the ass, you have already made me stronger by lynching where I wanted you to lynch. Korvalian gave me my BP's when you killed him, you gave me Korbas' abilities too. You think one alt was strong? Well try lynch me again today

Then watch the havoc I reek at night. I am in such a good place right now. Near unkillable, and you have to find my last "shield" but when you do I will get his abilities as well. No day actions for me today, all about tonight baby. I have my targets

Dragon, I want Tiamatha gone!

Let's test this again today, if he is going to be a dick, we can take a look for his weak spots, but no harm in calling his bluff here.

Maybe he has to be lynched twice in a row. It can't hurt.

Also, the first day it took many votes to lynch Korvalain. Some of that could be due to the same game mechanic as the last Dresden game which made certain players need more votes, but some of it could be due to certain alts not having their votes count.


Dragon, I want Tiam gone.

[Path-Shaper]

There is 34 hours and 30 minutes left in day 3.

There are 19 alive:
Kadagar Fant, Kalse, Karatallid, Karosis, Kedeviss, Kessobahn, Korabas, Korlat, Omtose, Osseric, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tholen, Thyrllan, Tiamatha, Togg, Trake, Tulas Shorn

Votes are as follows:
2 Votes for Tiamatha - Tholen, Tellan
1 Vote for Path-Shaper - Tiamatha

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 13 August 2014 - 08:52 AM

[Tennes]

Tiamatha, on 13 August 2014 - 08:25 AM, said:

I cannot believe you fuckers lynched Korbas when he didn't have a chance to defend himself! That is so naughty!

What's the matter Tiam, upset Korbas got lynched whilst you were asleep?

I'm up for testing Tiam again today however I think I believe him when he says he has another shield.

Making the assumption that his posted actions on N1 are accurate and that the other Outsider also didn't carry out an action that Night (or if did then Tatts removed it before posting) we can narrow down who else is Tatts to:

Korabas, Korlat, Tholen or Tiam. Tiam is a given so 3 potentials. I suck at alting people so other thoughts welcome.


If we're going to assume that the shield carried out an action so was on the Tiam list then Tatts could be:

Kadagar Fant (unlikely given PS swpping the player), Kalse, Korabas, Korlat, Telas, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha.

So another 3 potential alts. I don't totally discount Tatts getting up at 3am to post on a work night but it seems unlikely.

[Tiamatha]

Path-Shaper, on 13 August 2014 - 08:51 AM, said:

There is 34 hours and 30 minutes left in day 3.

There are 19 alive:
Kadagar Fant, Kalse, Karatallid, Karosis, Kedeviss, Kessobahn, Korabas, Korlat, Omtose, Osseric, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tholen, Thyrllan, Tiamatha, Togg, Trake, Tulas Shorn

Votes are as follows:
2 Votes for Tiamatha - Tholen, Tellan
1 Vote for Path-Shaper - Tiamatha

My vote registered!

[Tiamatha]

Tennes, on 13 August 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 13 August 2014 - 08:25 AM, said:

I cannot believe you fuckers lynched Korbas when he didn't have a chance to defend himself! That is so naughty!

What's the matter Tiam, upset Korbas got lynched whilst you were asleep?

I'm up for testing Tiam again today however I think I believe him when he says he has another shield.

Making the assumption that his posted actions on N1 are accurate and that the other Outsider also didn't carry out an action that Night (or if did then Tatts removed it before posting) we can narrow down who else is Tatts to:

Korabas, Korlat, Tholen or Tiam. Tiam is a given so 3 potentials. I suck at alting people so other thoughts welcome.


If we're going to assume that the shield carried out an action so was on the Tiam list then Tatts could be:

Kadagar Fant (unlikely given PS swpping the player), Kalse, Korabas, Korlat, Telas, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha.

So another 3 potential alts. I don't totally discount Tatts getting up at 3am to post on a work night but it seems unlikely.

I was a little upset yes, because I was rapidly thinking of how to get out of that mistake. I finally thought of a solution only to not have enough time to implement it.

[Tiamatha]

I also think that if we lynch Path Shaper then we will not get a random kill at the end of the day?

[Tholen]

Tiamatha, on 13 August 2014 - 09:08 AM, said:

I also think that if we lynch Path Shaper then we will not get a random kill at the end of the day?

That's a really really desperate move, I think you might actually be lynchable now!

[Kalse]

Tiamatha, on 13 August 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

Kalse, on 13 August 2014 - 08:31 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 13 August 2014 - 08:25 AM, said:

I cannot believe you fuckers lynched Korbas when he didn't have a chance to defend himself! That is so naughty!

Straight on to trolling mode? Awesome.




----

One aspect of high-tmdi games I could do without is players who forget to play the game as they focus on night or feel invulnerable. In 2 and a bit gamedays, we've had you and Tulas behaving like dicks already. Just fucking great.

Well from my point of view, the whole thread has ganged up on me two days straight.

So yes, you're Korvalain/Korbas as well. I called it right.

Quote

All backing each other up and no one calling anyone else out. You think a player can take all that negativity and not be a dick?

You have yourself to blame for day 1.
I spelled out yesterday why you vomitting the actions of others on thread on day 2 was a bad idea and made you the #1 priority for just about everyone else. So basically, you brought it down on yourself.

Quote

If this was a real life game, I would be feeling quite bullied in a way, but it is an online game and I admit, I drew too much attention early on and made many mistakes.

Exactly.

Quote

None of you are focusing on the game at all. 2 people have been recruited by cult and you all wanted to lynch the guy that gave you information.

Yes, because that information is dangerous to all involved to the point where it probably does more harm than good. So excuse me if I don't give you a pat on the back.

Quote

Fair enough, well you lost some protection by lynching those two players, but at the same time you did make me quite strong. The problem is, even though I can survive the game I don't think I can win anymore.

The only way you can't win is if you're completely eliminated, I'd say. Also, should we feel sorry now?

Quote

So yeah, just focus on me. Don't look elsewhere. The recruiters and gangs are happy right now because they are figuring out who is in their teams, they are talking off thread, they are getting co ordinated and in the end only one faction will win. You think you are smart by targeting the independent, but you're not. You're getting weaker by the day!

1. the players of the cult, the gangs and whomever else can work in silence and coordinate are indeed happy. Guess what? They'll be half the thread or more, probably (21 starting, 4 of you = 17 left, of which one might be a cult leader who now recruited twice. That left 16 at the start of the game, who are divided in all kinds of teams that are indeed probably finding each other. No shit Sherlock.

2. Independent is a relative term. Yes, you're one player. With four alts. Which is roughly the strength of the average team in this game by my assumption above, right? I am sure a team Vampire Court or team Marcone also see themselves as independents since they're neither Harry nor Outsider or Denarians. Do you not get that a name tag of a faction is nothing but a pretty sticker used to delineate a faction and victory conditions?

3. any cult is dangerous, but at the same time, people who don't have the cult in their VCs are not going to drop their own VCs just to exterminate the cult, I'd say. All you'll do is shoot yourself in the foot. We slow down the cult, or take it out? Awesome, and all the better for you if it is part of your faction's VC. But so is taking out a guy you expect to be packing kills: just as big a thread.

Currently, there's 19 alive. 3 cult if all actions succeeded - not sure if you know whether or not that happened?
Let's say that we have 1 lynch/die roll a day, 1 death a night and 1 recruit a night from here on out.

day 4: 3 cult, 17 alive.
day 5: 4 cult, 14 alive.
day 6. 5 cult, 11 alive.

So by day 7 they could dominate the thread if there's no cult deaths and every recruit succeeds. That's end-game in most cases. And yes, a good recruit can probably sink a faction. But you know what? So can a kill or lynch and in the example above, twice as many die as there are people being recruited.

4. How the fuck exactly do you suggest we go about finding the cult leader in a game where small plucks of players share a VC and want to keep their allegiance secret? This isn't town vs cult.

[Kalse]

Tennes, on 13 August 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 13 August 2014 - 08:25 AM, said:

I cannot believe you fuckers lynched Korbas when he didn't have a chance to defend himself! That is so naughty!

What's the matter Tiam, upset Korbas got lynched whilst you were asleep?

I'm up for testing Tiam again today however I think I believe him when he says he has another shield.

Making the assumption that his posted actions on N1 are accurate and that the other Outsider also didn't carry out an action that Night (or if did then Tatts removed it before posting) we can narrow down who else is Tatts to:

Korabas, Korlat, Tholen or Tiam. Tiam is a given so 3 potentials. I suck at alting people so other thoughts welcome.


If we're going to assume that the shield carried out an action so was on the Tiam list then Tatts could be:

Kadagar Fant (unlikely given PS swpping the player), Kalse, Korabas, Korlat, Telas, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha.

So another 3 potential alts. I don't totally discount Tatts getting up at 3am to post on a work night but it seems unlikely.

There was this little bit of confusion on day 1 where after a vote count with 7 votes on Korv, all of which counted, the next count was inexplicably 2 votes short. I don't know if Obdi set that right afterwards, but maybe one of those were by other alts of Korvalain/Korbas/Tiamatha?

[Path-Shaper]

Kalse, on 13 August 2014 - 09:21 AM, said:

Tennes, on 13 August 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 13 August 2014 - 08:25 AM, said:

I cannot believe you fuckers lynched Korbas when he didn't have a chance to defend himself! That is so naughty!

What's the matter Tiam, upset Korbas got lynched whilst you were asleep?

I'm up for testing Tiam again today however I think I believe him when he says he has another shield.

Making the assumption that his posted actions on N1 are accurate and that the other Outsider also didn't carry out an action that Night (or if did then Tatts removed it before posting) we can narrow down who else is Tatts to:

Korabas, Korlat, Tholen or Tiam. Tiam is a given so 3 potentials. I suck at alting people so other thoughts welcome.


If we're going to assume that the shield carried out an action so was on the Tiam list then Tatts could be:

Kadagar Fant (unlikely given PS swpping the player), Kalse, Korabas, Korlat, Telas, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha.

So another 3 potential alts. I don't totally discount Tatts getting up at 3am to post on a work night but it seems unlikely.

There was this little bit of confusion on day 1 where after a vote count with 7 votes on Korv, all of which counted, the next count was inexplicably 2 votes short. I don't know if Obdi set that right afterwards, but maybe one of those were by other alts of Korvalain/Korbas/Tiamatha?

The vote count disparity on day one was due to PS not updating the vote count after adding the new people that had voted. It was not related to any voting mechanics.

[Kalse]

Path-Shaper, on 13 August 2014 - 09:32 AM, said:

Kalse, on 13 August 2014 - 09:21 AM, said:

Tennes, on 13 August 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 13 August 2014 - 08:25 AM, said:

I cannot believe you fuckers lynched Korbas when he didn't have a chance to defend himself! That is so naughty!

What's the matter Tiam, upset Korbas got lynched whilst you were asleep?

I'm up for testing Tiam again today however I think I believe him when he says he has another shield.

Making the assumption that his posted actions on N1 are accurate and that the other Outsider also didn't carry out an action that Night (or if did then Tatts removed it before posting) we can narrow down who else is Tatts to:

Korabas, Korlat, Tholen or Tiam. Tiam is a given so 3 potentials. I suck at alting people so other thoughts welcome.


If we're going to assume that the shield carried out an action so was on the Tiam list then Tatts could be:

Kadagar Fant (unlikely given PS swpping the player), Kalse, Korabas, Korlat, Telas, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha.

So another 3 potential alts. I don't totally discount Tatts getting up at 3am to post on a work night but it seems unlikely.

There was this little bit of confusion on day 1 where after a vote count with 7 votes on Korv, all of which counted, the next count was inexplicably 2 votes short. I don't know if Obdi set that right afterwards, but maybe one of those were by other alts of Korvalain/Korbas/Tiamatha?

The vote count disparity on day one was due to PS not updating the vote count after adding the new people that had voted. It was not related to any voting mechanics.

Thanks

[Tiamatha]

Kalse, on 13 August 2014 - 09:14 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 13 August 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

Kalse, on 13 August 2014 - 08:31 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 13 August 2014 - 08:25 AM, said:

I cannot believe you fuckers lynched Korbas when he didn't have a chance to defend himself! That is so naughty!

Straight on to trolling mode? Awesome.




----

One aspect of high-tmdi games I could do without is players who forget to play the game as they focus on night or feel invulnerable. In 2 and a bit gamedays, we've had you and Tulas behaving like dicks already. Just fucking great.

Well from my point of view, the whole thread has ganged up on me two days straight.

So yes, you're Korvalain/Korbas as well. I called it right.

Quote

All backing each other up and no one calling anyone else out. You think a player can take all that negativity and not be a dick?

You have yourself to blame for day 1.
I spelled out yesterday why you vomitting the actions of others on thread on day 2 was a bad idea and made you the #1 priority for just about everyone else. So basically, you brought it down on yourself.

Quote

If this was a real life game, I would be feeling quite bullied in a way, but it is an online game and I admit, I drew too much attention early on and made many mistakes.

Exactly.

Quote

None of you are focusing on the game at all. 2 people have been recruited by cult and you all wanted to lynch the guy that gave you information.

Yes, because that information is dangerous to all involved to the point where it probably does more harm than good. So excuse me if I don't give you a pat on the back.

Quote

Fair enough, well you lost some protection by lynching those two players, but at the same time you did make me quite strong. The problem is, even though I can survive the game I don't think I can win anymore.

The only way you can't win is if you're completely eliminated, I'd say. Also, should we feel sorry now?

Quote

So yeah, just focus on me. Don't look elsewhere. The recruiters and gangs are happy right now because they are figuring out who is in their teams, they are talking off thread, they are getting co ordinated and in the end only one faction will win. You think you are smart by targeting the independent, but you're not. You're getting weaker by the day!

1. the players of the cult, the gangs and whomever else can work in silence and coordinate are indeed happy. Guess what? They'll be half the thread or more, probably (21 starting, 4 of you = 17 left, of which one might be a cult leader who now recruited twice. That left 16 at the start of the game, who are divided in all kinds of teams that are indeed probably finding each other. No shit Sherlock.

2. Independent is a relative term. Yes, you're one player. With four alts. Which is roughly the strength of the average team in this game by my assumption above, right? I am sure a team Vampire Court or team Marcone also see themselves as independents since they're neither Harry nor Outsider or Denarians. Do you not get that a name tag of a faction is nothing but a pretty sticker used to delineate a faction and victory conditions?

3. any cult is dangerous, but at the same time, people who don't have the cult in their VCs are not going to drop their own VCs just to exterminate the cult, I'd say. All you'll do is shoot yourself in the foot. We slow down the cult, or take it out? Awesome, and all the better for you if it is part of your faction's VC. But so is taking out a guy you expect to be packing kills: just as big a thread.

Currently, there's 19 alive. 3 cult if all actions succeeded - not sure if you know whether or not that happened?
Let's say that we have 1 lynch/die roll a day, 1 death a night and 1 recruit a night from here on out.

day 4: 3 cult, 17 alive.
day 5: 4 cult, 14 alive.
day 6. 5 cult, 11 alive.

So by day 7 they could dominate the thread if there's no cult deaths and every recruit succeeds. That's end-game in most cases. And yes, a good recruit can probably sink a faction. But you know what? So can a kill or lynch and in the example above, twice as many die as there are people being recruited.

4. How the fuck exactly do you suggest we go about finding the cult leader in a game where small plucks of players share a VC and want to keep their allegiance secret? This isn't town vs cult.

Interesting tell me more

[Kalse]

Tiamatha, on 13 August 2014 - 09:35 AM, said:

Kalse, on 13 August 2014 - 09:14 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 13 August 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

Kalse, on 13 August 2014 - 08:31 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 13 August 2014 - 08:25 AM, said:

I cannot believe you fuckers lynched Korbas when he didn't have a chance to defend himself! That is so naughty!

Straight on to trolling mode? Awesome.




----

One aspect of high-tmdi games I could do without is players who forget to play the game as they focus on night or feel invulnerable. In 2 and a bit gamedays, we've had you and Tulas behaving like dicks already. Just fucking great.

Well from my point of view, the whole thread has ganged up on me two days straight.

So yes, you're Korvalain/Korbas as well. I called it right.

Quote

All backing each other up and no one calling anyone else out. You think a player can take all that negativity and not be a dick?

You have yourself to blame for day 1.
I spelled out yesterday why you vomitting the actions of others on thread on day 2 was a bad idea and made you the #1 priority for just about everyone else. So basically, you brought it down on yourself.

Quote

If this was a real life game, I would be feeling quite bullied in a way, but it is an online game and I admit, I drew too much attention early on and made many mistakes.

Exactly.

Quote

None of you are focusing on the game at all. 2 people have been recruited by cult and you all wanted to lynch the guy that gave you information.

Yes, because that information is dangerous to all involved to the point where it probably does more harm than good. So excuse me if I don't give you a pat on the back.

Quote

Fair enough, well you lost some protection by lynching those two players, but at the same time you did make me quite strong. The problem is, even though I can survive the game I don't think I can win anymore.

The only way you can't win is if you're completely eliminated, I'd say. Also, should we feel sorry now?

Quote

So yeah, just focus on me. Don't look elsewhere. The recruiters and gangs are happy right now because they are figuring out who is in their teams, they are talking off thread, they are getting co ordinated and in the end only one faction will win. You think you are smart by targeting the independent, but you're not. You're getting weaker by the day!

1. the players of the cult, the gangs and whomever else can work in silence and coordinate are indeed happy. Guess what? They'll be half the thread or more, probably (21 starting, 4 of you = 17 left, of which one might be a cult leader who now recruited twice. That left 16 at the start of the game, who are divided in all kinds of teams that are indeed probably finding each other. No shit Sherlock.

2. Independent is a relative term. Yes, you're one player. With four alts. Which is roughly the strength of the average team in this game by my assumption above, right? I am sure a team Vampire Court or team Marcone also see themselves as independents since they're neither Harry nor Outsider or Denarians. Do you not get that a name tag of a faction is nothing but a pretty sticker used to delineate a faction and victory conditions?

3. any cult is dangerous, but at the same time, people who don't have the cult in their VCs are not going to drop their own VCs just to exterminate the cult, I'd say. All you'll do is shoot yourself in the foot. We slow down the cult, or take it out? Awesome, and all the better for you if it is part of your faction's VC. But so is taking out a guy you expect to be packing kills: just as big a thread.

Currently, there's 19 alive. 3 cult if all actions succeeded - not sure if you know whether or not that happened?
Let's say that we have 1 lynch/die roll a day, 1 death a night and 1 recruit a night from here on out.

day 4: 3 cult, 17 alive.
day 5: 4 cult, 14 alive.
day 6. 5 cult, 11 alive.

So by day 7 they could dominate the thread if there's no cult deaths and every recruit succeeds. That's end-game in most cases. And yes, a good recruit can probably sink a faction. But you know what? So can a kill or lynch and in the example above, twice as many die as there are people being recruited.

4. How the fuck exactly do you suggest we go about finding the cult leader in a game where small plucks of players share a VC and want to keep their allegiance secret? This isn't town vs cult.

Interesting tell me more

No. I frankly think I am done talking to you.

[Tennes]

Tennes, on 13 August 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 13 August 2014 - 08:25 AM, said:

I cannot believe you fuckers lynched Korbas when he didn't have a chance to defend himself! That is so naughty!

What's the matter Tiam, upset Korbas got lynched whilst you were asleep?

I'm up for testing Tiam again today however I think I believe him when he says he has another shield.

Making the assumption that his posted actions on N1 are accurate and that the other Outsider also didn't carry out an action that Night (or if did then Tatts removed it before posting) we can narrow down who else is Tatts to:

Korabas, Korlat, Tholen or Tiam. Tiam is a given so 3 potentials. I suck at alting people so other thoughts welcome.


If we're going to assume that the shield carried out an action so was on the Tiam list then Tatts could be:

Kadagar Fant (unlikely given PS swpping the player), Kalse, Korabas, Korlat, Telas, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha.

So another 3 potential alts. I don't totally discount Tatts getting up at 3am to post on a work night but it seems unlikely.

Of course I forgot to vote.

Dragon, I want Tiamatha Gone!