[Trake]

TS really wants to be lynched. Seems a bit desparate.

[Tiamatha]

If I am going to be lynched I may as well do nothing else for the rest of the day. You mangy rabbits!

[Tiamatha]

How does that sound Kristen?

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[Tiamatha]

This is how Tulas must feel? People attacking me, and then he stands up for what is right

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[Togg]

And it does seem the speed at which we are lynching doesn't seem to be bothering people. Also it almost seems like there are people on thread that are just seeming to cry out lynch me. Now normally I'd be less hesitant to give them what they want but in a game sold as TDMI 10+ doesn't that seem like that should raise some questions?

[Tiamatha]

I had a picture of Abyss' living room as well.

You want to see?

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Are you sure you want to see?

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Really sure?

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I did warn you!

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[Tiamatha]

This is me

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https://33.media.tum...zcv7no5_500.jpg

This is after you lynch me

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https://38.media.tum...zcv7no1_500.jpg

[Karosis]

Well, I think the whole Tiamatha must be HWWB and FM'd into the alt from Korvalain is a bit of a stretch, I mean, a FM jump triggered by a lynch? I certainly would not have put my vote down for that reason. However, Kalse makes a really excellent point:

Kalse, on 12 August 2014 - 11:31 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 12 August 2014 - 08:35 AM, said:

Nope again. Korvalain clearly accused you of being a walker, although because he was also foolish he got the names mixed up.

Korvalain, on 11 August 2014 - 03:41 PM, said:

I could have made this game quite entertaining. However;

Tiamatha, on 11 August 2014 - 03:34 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 11 August 2014 - 03:32 PM, said:

Korlat, on 11 August 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 11 August 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

Thoust Mortals Shall Fear Me!

Dragon, I want Korvalain gone.

Potentially the fastest day one lynch?

Dragon, I want Korvalain gone.

You know I think he is using some sort of reverse psychology.

Korvalain, suck it!

For that I am going to ruin your game Tiam! I may be lynched but I hope they get you tonight.

Tiamatha is He Who Walks Before. He cannot be lynched and he will be in the Library tonight. I have sent him there via an ability. If you want He Who Walks Behind dead, then target Tiamatha at the Library tonight.

I will take him with me

Please discuss.

Or he reasoned that if we lynched him, this would be the ultimate distancing from Tiam.
Funnily, Tiam states his VC as

Quote

Once the following are dead, you win:
1) Dragon
2) Dragon Cult
3) Shark-Face

You may not return after winning, as it bores you.

OK. So Korvalain is He Who Walks Behind. If your Victory condition isn't doctored, then he wasn't your enemy as he wasn't Shark-face (He Who Walks Before). So, why did he attack you?


Now, we can arrive at two mutually exclusive theories.
I. a Walker has multiple alts (as someone mentioned, 21 players is quite a lot of players considering recent activity) and you are actually Korv in a different alt and Korv attacking you was distancing to keep one alt around. You went completely quiet yesterday only to go on the offensive today.

II. You are a different Walker and there's a circular VC for all Walkers (a maximum of three according to Dresdenwiki - which would be):

Before needs Behind dead
Behind needs He Who is Stuck in the Middle (that would be you) dead,
Stuck in the Middle needs Before dead.

That would only work if there are three Walkers around based on your VC (once again, if it wasn't doctored). Dresdenwiki mentions there's three but the books have only seen two. So maybe it's

Before needs Behind dead
Behind needs Before dead

Which means you are Before = Shark-Face.

Korv also said wasn't able to kill, and what we've seen so far from your abilities is that they are uniquely sorted to quickly narrow down the thread to a handful of players to out a cult leader (already you could scratch of half the field from being one, unless there's multiple and one didn't do anything last night).

Since my ability was in your list, I am willing to believe you on being accurate (and wonder what this thingie with Tholen is).
I would go as far as saying a Cult Leader is a worry (how big a worry it is, is partially affected by how the recruit ability could worded), but... you might already have fulfilled 1 out of 3 of your VCs, yourself, too (if you're Shark-Face and needed Tatts dead).

Not to mention that everyone with abilities that involve names that give clues to their identity will hate to run the risk to be outed by you. After all, suppose all on the list perform the same abilities again AND one of the unnamed does something that makes them show up with an ability not currently on your list, we can pinpoint that ability to the new person - or, the reverse scenario: someone on the list doesn't perform an ability, it goes missing, their name goes missing, and we can narrow down the list to whom performed what further.

That's also dangerous for a lot of players, I imagine. And that's also why I think it isn't a very good idea to keep you around for very long. Because y'know, I want to win. And thankfully, since I was smart enough to ask for a support cast member by name, I am not essential to victory. But I'd hate to see one or more essential people on my faction recruited or killed as collateral damage of YOU needing US to hunt a cult in order for YOU to win and not caring who you out in the process by slinging your info on thread.

I do NOT want someone with that much information running around on thread. It doesn't make sense to allow that much power to go unchecked. So...

Dragon, I want Tiamatha gone!

Let's see what happens!

[Tiamatha]

I cannot edit that into better images so will re do in this post.


Before

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After

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[Tiamatha]

Karosis, on 12 August 2014 - 04:28 PM, said:

Well, I think the whole Tiamatha must be HWWB and FM'd into the alt from Korvalain is a bit of a stretch, I mean, a FM jump triggered by a lynch? I certainly would not have put my vote down for that reason. However, Kalse makes a really excellent point:

Kalse, on 12 August 2014 - 11:31 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 12 August 2014 - 08:35 AM, said:

Nope again. Korvalain clearly accused you of being a walker, although because he was also foolish he got the names mixed up.

Korvalain, on 11 August 2014 - 03:41 PM, said:

I could have made this game quite entertaining. However;

Tiamatha, on 11 August 2014 - 03:34 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 11 August 2014 - 03:32 PM, said:

Korlat, on 11 August 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 11 August 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

Thoust Mortals Shall Fear Me!

Dragon, I want Korvalain gone.

Potentially the fastest day one lynch?

Dragon, I want Korvalain gone.

You know I think he is using some sort of reverse psychology.

Korvalain, suck it!

For that I am going to ruin your game Tiam! I may be lynched but I hope they get you tonight.

Tiamatha is He Who Walks Before. He cannot be lynched and he will be in the Library tonight. I have sent him there via an ability. If you want He Who Walks Behind dead, then target Tiamatha at the Library tonight.

I will take him with me

Please discuss.

Or he reasoned that if we lynched him, this would be the ultimate distancing from Tiam.
Funnily, Tiam states his VC as

Quote

Once the following are dead, you win:
1) Dragon
2) Dragon Cult
3) Shark-Face

You may not return after winning, as it bores you.

OK. So Korvalain is He Who Walks Behind. If your Victory condition isn't doctored, then he wasn't your enemy as he wasn't Shark-face (He Who Walks Before). So, why did he attack you?


Now, we can arrive at two mutually exclusive theories.
I. a Walker has multiple alts (as someone mentioned, 21 players is quite a lot of players considering recent activity) and you are actually Korv in a different alt and Korv attacking you was distancing to keep one alt around. You went completely quiet yesterday only to go on the offensive today.

II. You are a different Walker and there's a circular VC for all Walkers (a maximum of three according to Dresdenwiki - which would be):

Before needs Behind dead
Behind needs He Who is Stuck in the Middle (that would be you) dead,
Stuck in the Middle needs Before dead.

That would only work if there are three Walkers around based on your VC (once again, if it wasn't doctored). Dresdenwiki mentions there's three but the books have only seen two. So maybe it's

Before needs Behind dead
Behind needs Before dead

Which means you are Before = Shark-Face.

Korv also said wasn't able to kill, and what we've seen so far from your abilities is that they are uniquely sorted to quickly narrow down the thread to a handful of players to out a cult leader (already you could scratch of half the field from being one, unless there's multiple and one didn't do anything last night).

Since my ability was in your list, I am willing to believe you on being accurate (and wonder what this thingie with Tholen is).
I would go as far as saying a Cult Leader is a worry (how big a worry it is, is partially affected by how the recruit ability could worded), but... you might already have fulfilled 1 out of 3 of your VCs, yourself, too (if you're Shark-Face and needed Tatts dead).

Not to mention that everyone with abilities that involve names that give clues to their identity will hate to run the risk to be outed by you. After all, suppose all on the list perform the same abilities again AND one of the unnamed does something that makes them show up with an ability not currently on your list, we can pinpoint that ability to the new person - or, the reverse scenario: someone on the list doesn't perform an ability, it goes missing, their name goes missing, and we can narrow down the list to whom performed what further.

That's also dangerous for a lot of players, I imagine. And that's also why I think it isn't a very good idea to keep you around for very long. Because y'know, I want to win. And thankfully, since I was smart enough to ask for a support cast member by name, I am not essential to victory. But I'd hate to see one or more essential people on my faction recruited or killed as collateral damage of YOU needing US to hunt a cult in order for YOU to win and not caring who you out in the process by slinging your info on thread.

I do NOT want someone with that much information running around on thread. It doesn't make sense to allow that much power to go unchecked. So...

Dragon, I want Tiamatha gone!

Let's see what happens!

Power? Yeah right.

[Tennes]

Togg, on 12 August 2014 - 04:24 PM, said:

And it does seem the speed at which we are lynching doesn't seem to be bothering people. Also it almost seems like there are people on thread that are just seeming to cry out lynch me. Now normally I'd be less hesitant to give them what they want but in a game sold as TDMI 10+ doesn't that seem like that should raise some questions?

Yes it is, lots. However lots of votes seem to get piled up quickly so there's either a whole load of players with multiple alts or some damned funny play going on. I have composed several messages asking similar to you but not posted them because if I've thought it almost everyone else certainly has. I did try voting Tulas earlier as he was less blatant about being Korv however no-one else followed. The times that thread is busy seems a bit off from normal too - earlier in the day than I've grown used to.

[Kedeviss]

Yesterday, 15 out of 21 votes was not enough to lynch Korv:

Path-Shaper, on 12 August 2014 - 05:25 AM, said:

There is 16 hours and 34 minutes left in Day 1.

There are 21 alive:
Kadagar Fant, Kalse, Karatallid, Karosis Kedeviss, Kessobahn, Korabas, Korbas, Korlat, Korvalain, Omtose, Osseric, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tholen, Thyrllan, Tiamatha, Togg, Trake, Tulas Shorn

Votes are as follows:
15 Votes for Korvalain - Kalse, Korabas, Tholen, Korlat, Tiamatha, Trake, Tellen, Thyrllan, Kedeviss, Telas, Kessobahn, Tulas Shorn, Tennes, Togg, Osseric
1 Vote for Tellen - Korvalain

But either 16 or 17 out of 21 was (probably 17):

Path-Shaper, on 12 August 2014 - 06:26 AM, said:

There is 15 hours and 20 minutes left in Day 1.

There are 21 alive:
Kadagar Fant, Kalse, Karatallid, Karosis Kedeviss, Kessobahn, Korabas, Korbas, Korlat, Korvalain, Omtose, Osseric, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tholen, Thyrllan, Tiamatha, Togg, Trake, Tulas Shorn

Votes are as follows:
17 Votes for Korvalain - Kalse, Korabas, Tholen, Korlat, Tiamatha, Trake, Tellen, Thyrllan, Kedeviss, Telas, Kessobahn, Tulas Shorn, Tennes, Togg, Osseric, Korvalain, Karatallid

[...lynch scene...]

We're at 13 out of 20 now. Best guess is we need 3 more votes to lynch Tiam assuming most factors remain the same.

[Telas]

Kalse, on 12 August 2014 - 11:31 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 12 August 2014 - 08:35 AM, said:

Nope again. Korvalain clearly accused you of being a walker, although because he was also foolish he got the names mixed up.

Korvalain, on 11 August 2014 - 03:41 PM, said:

I could have made this game quite entertaining. However;

Tiamatha, on 11 August 2014 - 03:34 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 11 August 2014 - 03:32 PM, said:

Korlat, on 11 August 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 11 August 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

Thoust Mortals Shall Fear Me!

Dragon, I want Korvalain gone.

Potentially the fastest day one lynch?

Dragon, I want Korvalain gone.

You know I think he is using some sort of reverse psychology.

Korvalain, suck it!

For that I am going to ruin your game Tiam! I may be lynched but I hope they get you tonight.

Tiamatha is He Who Walks Before. He cannot be lynched and he will be in the Library tonight. I have sent him there via an ability. If you want He Who Walks Behind dead, then target Tiamatha at the Library tonight.

I will take him with me

Please discuss.

Or he reasoned that if we lynched him, this would be the ultimate distancing from Tiam.
Funnily, Tiam states his VC as

Quote

Once the following are dead, you win:
1) Dragon
2) Dragon Cult
3) Shark-Face

You may not return after winning, as it bores you.

OK. So Korvalain is He Who Walks Behind. If your Victory condition isn't doctored, then he wasn't your enemy as he wasn't Shark-face (He Who Walks Before). So, why did he attack you?


Now, we can arrive at two mutually exclusive theories.
I. a Walker has multiple alts (as someone mentioned, 21 players is quite a lot of players considering recent activity) and you are actually Korv in a different alt and Korv attacking you was distancing to keep one alt around. You went completely quiet yesterday only to go on the offensive today.

II. You are a different Walker and there's a circular VC for all Walkers (a maximum of three according to Dresdenwiki - which would be):

Before needs Behind dead
Behind needs He Who is Stuck in the Middle (that would be you) dead,
Stuck in the Middle needs Before dead.

That would only work if there are three Walkers around based on your VC (once again, if it wasn't doctored). Dresdenwiki mentions there's three but the books have only seen two. So maybe it's

Before needs Behind dead
Behind needs Before dead

Which means you are Before = Shark-Face.

Korv also said wasn't able to kill, and what we've seen so far from your abilities is that they are uniquely sorted to quickly narrow down the thread to a handful of players to out a cult leader (already you could scratch of half the field from being one, unless there's multiple and one didn't do anything last night).

Since my ability was in your list, I am willing to believe you on being accurate (and wonder what this thingie with Tholen is).
I would go as far as saying a Cult Leader is a worry (how big a worry it is, is partially affected by how the recruit ability could worded), but... you might already have fulfilled 1 out of 3 of your VCs, yourself, too (if you're Shark-Face and needed Tatts dead).

Not to mention that everyone with abilities that involve names that give clues to their identity will hate to run the risk to be outed by you. After all, suppose all on the list perform the same abilities again AND one of the unnamed does something that makes them show up with an ability not currently on your list, we can pinpoint that ability to the new person - or, the reverse scenario: someone on the list doesn't perform an ability, it goes missing, their name goes missing, and we can narrow down the list to whom performed what further.

That's also dangerous for a lot of players, I imagine. And that's also why I think it isn't a very good idea to keep you around for very long. Because y'know, I want to win. And thankfully, since I was smart enough to ask for a support cast member by name, I am not essential to victory. But I'd hate to see one or more essential people on my faction recruited or killed as collateral damage of YOU needing US to hunt a cult in order for YOU to win and not caring who you out in the process by slinging your info on thread.

This is the very best reason for voting Tiam off. In fact it is the only reason that makes any sense. My only qualm more of a question really is that Tiam had to know that everyone who he named would vote for him and that anyone else who had a night action but didn't use it would vote for him. So I am curious about why he decided to do an info dump on the thread. Regardless that kind of information can not remain on the thread.


Dragon, I want Tiamatha gone!

[Tulas Shorn]

Tennes, on 12 August 2014 - 04:31 PM, said:

Yes it is, lots. However lots of votes seem to get piled up quickly so there's either a whole load of players with multiple alts or some damned funny play going on. I have composed several messages asking similar to you but not posted them because if I've thought it almost everyone else certainly has. I did try voting Tulas earlier as he was less blatant about being Korv however no-one else followed. The times that thread is busy seems a bit off from normal too - earlier in the day than I've grown used to.

Or way too much information.
Last Dresden game was the same, the great number of info roles make these games different. When people know all their teammates they are not afraid of quick lynches.
Although, as I have pointed out, between the lot of you there is no one with the balls to lynch someone else. You're all pussies.

[Kedeviss]

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 04:59 PM, said:

Tennes, on 12 August 2014 - 04:31 PM, said:

Yes it is, lots. However lots of votes seem to get piled up quickly so there's either a whole load of players with multiple alts or some damned funny play going on. I have composed several messages asking similar to you but not posted them because if I've thought it almost everyone else certainly has. I did try voting Tulas earlier as he was less blatant about being Korv however no-one else followed. The times that thread is busy seems a bit off from normal too - earlier in the day than I've grown used to.

Or way too much information.
Last Dresden game was the same, the great number of info roles make these games different. When people know all their teammates they are not afraid of quick lynches.
Although, as I have pointed out, between the lot of you there is no one with the balls to lynch someone else. You're all pussies.

Balls has nothing to do with it. If I'm happy lynching Tiam there is no reason to switch to someone else.

[Tulas Shorn]

Kedeviss, on 12 August 2014 - 05:20 PM, said:

Balls has nothing to do with it. If I'm happy lynching Tiam there is no reason to switch to someone else.

But, you can't even lynch Tiam properly, pussycat.

[Trake]

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 04:59 PM, said:

Tennes, on 12 August 2014 - 04:31 PM, said:

Yes it is, lots. However lots of votes seem to get piled up quickly so there's either a whole load of players with multiple alts or some damned funny play going on. I have composed several messages asking similar to you but not posted them because if I've thought it almost everyone else certainly has. I did try voting Tulas earlier as he was less blatant about being Korv however no-one else followed. The times that thread is busy seems a bit off from normal too - earlier in the day than I've grown used to.

Or way too much information.
Last Dresden game was the same, the great number of info roles make these games different. When people know all their teammates they are not afraid of quick lynches.
Although, as I have pointed out, between the lot of you there is no one with the balls to lynch someone else. You're all pussies.

Lynch someone like u?

Pussies indeed. though i never understood why female genitalia or felines was considered a diss. Seems like birthing and superior preditory prowess argue against the word's intended effect.

And women's balls may be internal, but they are a whole helluva lot bigger than males.

[Tulas Shorn]

Trake, on 12 August 2014 - 05:29 PM, said:

Lynch someone like u?

Pussies indeed. though i never understood why female genitalia or felines was considered a diss. Seems like birthing and superior preditory prowess argue against the word's intended effect.

And women's balls may be internal, but they are a whole helluva lot bigger than males.

You show your ignorance!
Do you know the word pusillanimous?
and I did not call you a woman, for woman have much greater intelligence than you show(and are generally prettier), I called you a man with no balls, aka a eunuch.

[Trake]

As if sexual tension did good for anyone.

[Trake]

Speaking of impotence, where was your night action last night TS?