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Mafia 115 - Dresden 3.something

#2241 User is offline   Korabas 

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:13 PM

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 03:07 PM, said:


Is this you?

Have you come up on one of the lists or can someone vouch for you? Or does the 3 become 3 out of 4?


No I have been given a role on thread already and it was correct. Andii is still around and we dont have any confirmation on who she is either. Though I have a strong suspicion on who it is. I will let them decide whether or not to talk about it on thread

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:14 PM

God why would you even engage him with a proper response, he has been in screw around mode for days now. All you are going to get is more bullshit.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:15 PM

View PostKorabas, on 20 August 2014 - 03:13 PM, said:

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 03:07 PM, said:


Is this you?

Have you come up on one of the lists or can someone vouch for you? Or does the 3 become 3 out of 4?


No I have been given a role on thread already and it was correct. Andii is still around and we dont have any confirmation on who she is either. Though I have a strong suspicion on who it is. I will let them decide whether or not to talk about it on thread


Yeah? I didn't think Andi was actually in the game, even if Butters could look at her.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:16 PM

View PostTholen, on 20 August 2014 - 03:14 PM, said:

God why would you even engage him with a proper response, he has been in screw around mode for days now. All you are going to get is more bullshit.


Well it does point out yet another flaw in his reasoning but far be it from me to do something useful on thread

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:18 PM

View PostKedeviss, on 20 August 2014 - 03:15 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 20 August 2014 - 03:13 PM, said:

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 03:07 PM, said:

Is this you?

Have you come up on one of the lists or can someone vouch for you? Or does the 3 become 3 out of 4?


No I have been given a role on thread already and it was correct. Andii is still around and we dont have any confirmation on who she is either. Though I have a strong suspicion on who it is. I will let them decide whether or not to talk about it on thread


Yeah? I didn't think Andi was actually in the game, even if Butters could look at her.


Now that just doesnt make any sense at all. Besides the rest of the Alphas are part of the game why leave out the one that would pair up with Butters?

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:21 PM

And since all are dead and gone. I will have to remind you that a girl transformed Night 1, I believe.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:22 PM

View PostKedeviss, on 20 August 2014 - 03:11 PM, said:

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View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 02:39 PM, said:

Dragon I want Kedeviss gone

I think we have tested Kadagar and he had an LP. That leaves you and Tellan but he isn't around. You needn't worry though because your minions won't vote your way to lynch.


Tellan not being around isn't really much of an excuse. If anything, it would make more sense that he is the cult master (if one existed) and been laying low while he recruits. So clearly you have some hidden agenda in this. :rolleyes:

Dragon, I want Tellan gone!


This is quite a desperate reaction move. You have not removed from voting Tennes?

There are 3 alts; Kedeviss, Kadagar and Tellan that have not had a role assigned to them.

There are 3 roles left; Mark the Dragon Cult Leader, Shark Face and Vittorio Malvora.

You are one of these 3 members. People will know my information is good because they themselves are included in it.

I have no ill will to Vitto but the rest of the thread will but odds are that 2 out of the 3 are people I want gone.

Once they are gone, then that will mean I am gone. I don't interfere with anyone else' VC. I just leave. Poof. Gone.

Are you claiming Vitto? If so then I have no interest in voting for you.


All this info has only come from you, and from the very beginning you claimed to be a Tyrant Steve-esque role and persona. Why would that engender any sort of trust that the information you give is entirely accurate? Of course you would include some information that people would recognize as truth, that's just basic common sense when doing a fake reveal or giving out false information - you always include some unimportant truth along with it to make the lies seem more legitimate.

But nevertheless, the information you give is entirely fishy for numerous reasons. For example, the supposed Mark role is not a Dresden role when not only every other role seen in this game, but every other role seen in every Obdigore dresden game, has been actual Dresden characters, so having a made-up power role makes no sense. Furthermore, you claim he's a regular recruiter but we have no factions listed in CFs so the rest of the thread would be entirely helpless at knowing whether they are making any headway against the cult, which is a huge design flaw.

Neither of your supposed claims add up at all, and we've yet to have any supporting evidence from any other player in the game, so far. There's essentially no reason whatsoever to believe this information, while at the same time many reasons not to. The rational course then, for me and presumably for everyone else, is to believe that it is a bunch of lies meant to mask your actual VC (because you keep claiming you only need to hurt the made-up roles) which is probably far more lethal to the rest of us than you want to admit.

I've gradually made this same analysis already, but here it is laid out together. So far, your response to any of this analysis has only been to try and shout out the same lies even louder, but you haven't been able to provide any more information or make any rational argument for why anyone should actually believe these claims, all you do is just keep saying it over and over again. If you want anyone to believe them, you need to justify it, but I suspect you are not in fact capable of that because they are indeed just lies.


If I was to make up a lie why would I use a name like "Mark the dragon cult leader". It sounds way too far fetched for it to be believed. However, I did not even mention him in my VC's, he came up in my "role find" what role performed an action the night before.

I copy and pasted my VC's earlier but now I will screenshot them.

Spoiler


I did not include Mac in my original VC's because he was alive and may not have wanted to work towards my goal.

You can see there is no "mark" in my VC's.

At least I have been forthcoming with VC, you have remained hidden. You do not want to escape you have let us know that much.

Why would anyone else not want to lynch you? You are not in Marcone's faction. You are not part of the Togg/Tholen group. Yet Tholen is defending you, why? Has he been recruited?

I think you are the best lynch for the whole thread. I don't know how much you have infected it though.


In fact, Tulas are you there? You have also refused to vote Kedeviss and voted along with him a few times. If Tholen has been recruited, does that directly affect you?

That's worrying actually.

Three votes to Kedeviss.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:26 PM

Your lists pertain ONLY TO WHO IS BEING TARGETED in some way. Why was this not made clear? Why have you acted like these are lists of people who HAVE PERFORMED actions?

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:28 PM

On to important things.

Tapper it is your pick in FF

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:28 PM

Okay, start from the begnining, please post all of the screenshots you have once again if you would be so kind.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:30 PM

View PostTholen, on 20 August 2014 - 03:26 PM, said:

Your lists pertain ONLY TO WHO IS BEING TARGETED in some way. Why was this not made clear? Why have you acted like these are lists of people who HAVE PERFORMED actions?


Because that was part of Korvalain's ability and it was a day action not a night action.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:30 PM

View PostTelas, on 20 August 2014 - 03:28 PM, said:

On to important things.

Tapper it is your pick in FF


Telas what do you make of Kedeviss?

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:44 PM

View PostKorabas, on 20 August 2014 - 03:21 PM, said:

And since all are dead and gone. I will have to remind you that a girl transformed Night 1, I believe.


Nothing to say that couldn't have been Marci.

I think you may be best trying to get out with Kalse and co, I cannot place you though. I stopped looking through the thread once I thought I had placed everyone.

So what do you make of Kedeviss, Tellan and Kadagar, what role would you place against them?

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:49 PM

View PostTennes, on 14 August 2014 - 04:27 PM, said:

View PostTholen, on 14 August 2014 - 03:15 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 14 August 2014 - 01:38 PM, said:

You are unable to sleep at night.

It sounds like the Sonic Boom comes from the room you are in.



Depending on the location of the last Boom it may also be in an adjacent room. It may have affected a range of rooms, particularly if it isn't the same person doing it.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 11 August 2014 - 05:21 AM, said:

If your ability is a location related ability, and not specifically stated otherwise, the 'locations' include the room you are in and the one on either 'side'. The list 'wraps around', so the Kitchen is next to the Ballroom and the Dining Room.


Boom may have damaged Pool, Bar, Dining Room this time. Without confirmation of the location of the first Boom you can't be sure it didn't happen in the Lounge first time, weakening Lounge, Library, Bar. Bar would have taken two hits so would be where the hole is.


what I was trying to tell Tholen and Togg before...

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:51 PM

View PostTellan, on 14 August 2014 - 04:44 PM, said:

View PostTholen, on 14 August 2014 - 04:27 PM, said:

View PostKedeviss, on 14 August 2014 - 04:21 PM, said:

View PostTholen, on 14 August 2014 - 04:20 PM, said:

Guys, why are you not typing

Dragon, I want Tulas Shorn gone!


You've probably already sort of said this but it was disjoint so I will ask for a repeat. What exactly is going to happen (according to you, ofc) if we lynch Tulas?


What do you care? Just do it.

Please, all we want is to leave. Vote for Tulas Shorn.


He claims it's a waste of time. I voted him though. Why should we not try to harm him by voting you?

I have no idea about other VCs, but mine don't conflict with anyone else - as in, my VC doesn't include anything like "so and so must fail or die" therefore I'm completely fine with you escaping if you can take him with you.

I would love for this game to hurry up and get smaller and easier to play. The current madness isn't fun.


what sort of role? Recruiting role? he doesn't want to escape either. similar to Kedeviss

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:53 PM

View PostKedeviss, on 14 August 2014 - 05:36 PM, said:

I *could* maybe help you guys survive the night a bit... getting you guys to escape is beneficial for me, even though I can't escape myself. But doing so kinda puts a target on my back, no? Is there anything in it for me?


This. What role would make it beneficial for him to help you escape but not escape himself?

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:55 PM

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 03:44 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 20 August 2014 - 03:21 PM, said:

And since all are dead and gone. I will have to remind you that a girl transformed Night 1, I believe.


Nothing to say that couldn't have been Marci.

I think you may be best trying to get out with Kalse and co, I cannot place you though. I stopped looking through the thread once I thought I had placed everyone.

So what do you make of Kedeviss, Tellan and Kadagar, what role would you place against them?


Ive been trying to get rid of Ked for the last 2 days. Hes not an escapee so I know he is a safe lynch for us. Tellan is paired up with the Alphas

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:56 PM

View PostKedeviss, on 14 August 2014 - 06:23 PM, said:

Aww. But I don't want to lynch osseric either!


Even if Osseric was Toot Toot, would that mean recruitable or not?

Kedeviss will want to keep as many of his recruits around as possible (if he is the leader)

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 03:58 PM

View PostKorabas, on 20 August 2014 - 03:55 PM, said:

View PostTiamatha, on 20 August 2014 - 03:44 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 20 August 2014 - 03:21 PM, said:

And since all are dead and gone. I will have to remind you that a girl transformed Night 1, I believe.


Nothing to say that couldn't have been Marci.

I think you may be best trying to get out with Kalse and co, I cannot place you though. I stopped looking through the thread once I thought I had placed everyone.

So what do you make of Kedeviss, Tellan and Kadagar, what role would you place against them?


Ive been trying to get rid of Ked for the last 2 days. Hes not an escapee so I know he is a safe lynch for us. Tellan is paired up with the Alphas


Kedeviss is voting for Tellan so therefore the enemy of your enemy?

Do you know what role Tellan is then? Is he an Alpha? I must be missing names because I cannot pair the "roles" with the "alts" unless of course some alts/roles don't have night actions, or don't perform them often.

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 04:00 PM

Who's the fucker that tried to kill me today!?!?!?

Cost me by BP.

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