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#381 User is offline   Kalse 

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 01:44 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 22 July 2014 - 08:20 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 12 hours and 42 minutes remain in the day.

14 players are alive:
Anthras, Desra, Fener, Galain, Jalan, Kalse, Kedeviss, Omtose, Ryadd Eleis, Silchas Ruin, Tellan, Trake, Ultama, Venesara

8 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night

1 vote Omtose: Kedeviss
1 vote Fener: Omtose,
2 votes Kedeviss: Ryadd Eleis, Fener

Players not voted: Anthras, Desra, Galain, Jalan, Kalse, Silchas Ruin, Tellan, Trake, Ultama, Venesara


Ok, here is my most damning piece of evidence (and if you want the 4th faction, maybe even the leader, listen up).

As I said, I suspect there was 1 faction role unconcerned about maintaining silence within the first 24 hours. Take a look who is on the above vote list just before 24 hours is up.

Now, the assassin is there too because I believe the 24 hour alt thing didn't apply to that singular role as well. So the question is, who is Fener. I actually, and sadly, will remove my vote from that filthy second (probably now a leader) Jalan and go for the primary leader.

Remove Vote
Vote Fener


Regardless, I think both Jalan and I are at high risk of not surviving at this point anyway, so might as well take down a leader and hope to weaken the hypothetically strongest faction (unless there are 3 teams and 4 roles).

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 01:54 PM

View PostKalse, on 24 July 2014 - 01:44 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 22 July 2014 - 08:20 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 12 hours and 42 minutes remain in the day.

14 players are alive:
Anthras, Desra, Fener, Galain, Jalan, Kalse, Kedeviss, Omtose, Ryadd Eleis, Silchas Ruin, Tellan, Trake, Ultama, Venesara

8 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night

1 vote Omtose: Kedeviss
1 vote Fener: Omtose,
2 votes Kedeviss: Ryadd Eleis, Fener

Players not voted: Anthras, Desra, Galain, Jalan, Kalse, Silchas Ruin, Tellan, Trake, Ultama, Venesara


Ok, here is my most damning piece of evidence (and if you want the 4th faction, maybe even the leader, listen up).

As I said, I suspect there was 1 faction role unconcerned about maintaining silence within the first 24 hours. Take a look who is on the above vote list just before 24 hours is up.

Now, the assassin is there too because I believe the 24 hour alt thing didn't apply to that singular role as well. So the question is, who is Fener. I actually, and sadly, will remove my vote from that filthy second (probably now a leader) Jalan and go for the primary leader.

Remove Vote
Vote Fener


Regardless, I think both Jalan and I are at high risk of not surviving at this point anyway, so might as well take down a leader and hope to weaken the hypothetically strongest faction (unless there are 3 teams and 4 roles).


D'awww, did poor widdle baby hide in the first 24 so people wouldn't alt him? What chickenshit play that is. If you think lynching me because you play like a scared child who is afraid they are going to wet themselves is the way to go, then you leave that vote right there.

I mean, if you are going to go ahead and throw out your role, at least be right about the game setup you moron. Why do you keep thinking there are 4 factions? Because... why? Before last night I was thinking it was possible there were 2 factions and it was all about the infighting. 4 factions of 3 people each, with 1 faction untouched, and 2 factions down to one person? Yea no.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:03 PM

View PostFener, on 24 July 2014 - 01:54 PM, said:

View PostKalse, on 24 July 2014 - 01:44 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 22 July 2014 - 08:20 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 12 hours and 42 minutes remain in the day.

14 players are alive:
Anthras, Desra, Fener, Galain, Jalan, Kalse, Kedeviss, Omtose, Ryadd Eleis, Silchas Ruin, Tellan, Trake, Ultama, Venesara

8 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night

1 vote Omtose: Kedeviss
1 vote Fener: Omtose,
2 votes Kedeviss: Ryadd Eleis, Fener

Players not voted: Anthras, Desra, Galain, Jalan, Kalse, Silchas Ruin, Tellan, Trake, Ultama, Venesara


Ok, here is my most damning piece of evidence (and if you want the 4th faction, maybe even the leader, listen up).

As I said, I suspect there was 1 faction role unconcerned about maintaining silence within the first 24 hours. Take a look who is on the above vote list just before 24 hours is up.

Now, the assassin is there too because I believe the 24 hour alt thing didn't apply to that singular role as well. So the question is, who is Fener. I actually, and sadly, will remove my vote from that filthy second (probably now a leader) Jalan and go for the primary leader.

Remove Vote
Vote Fener


Regardless, I think both Jalan and I are at high risk of not surviving at this point anyway, so might as well take down a leader and hope to weaken the hypothetically strongest faction (unless there are 3 teams and 4 roles).


D'awww, did poor widdle baby hide in the first 24 so people wouldn't alt him? What chickenshit play that is. If you think lynching me because you play like a scared child who is afraid they are going to wet themselves is the way to go, then you leave that vote right there.

I mean, if you are going to go ahead and throw out your role, at least be right about the game setup you moron. Why do you keep thinking there are 4 factions? Because... why? Before last night I was thinking it was possible there were 2 factions and it was all about the infighting. 4 factions of 3 people each, with 1 faction untouched, and 2 factions down to one person? Yea no.


Fascinating response. Patronizing and dismissive. I do believe I hit a nerve.

And as for fear of being killed, it should be obvious I'm not. I would keep hiding like that scared little baby if I was (or throwing a temper-tantrum. Different strokes for different folks).

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:29 PM

View PostFener, on 24 July 2014 - 01:54 PM, said:


D'awww, did poor widdle baby hide in the first 24 so people wouldn't alt him? What chickenshit play that is. If you think lynching me because you play like a scared child who is afraid they are going to wet themselves is the way to go, then you leave that vote right there.

I mean, if you are going to go ahead and throw out your role, at least be right about the game setup you moron. Why do you keep thinking there are 4 factions? Because... why? Before last night I was thinking it was possible there were 2 factions and it was all about the infighting. 4 factions of 3 people each, with 1 faction untouched, and 2 factions down to one person? Yea no.


And yet another completely unhelpful response. This has been Fener's contribution the entire game I am actually leaning towards him. I dont like him being a complete unknown. The Kalse/Jalan debate will take some time to pick through however.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:52 PM

A lot of accusations flying around. I'm not sure which side to take on the Kalse/Jalan/Fener front. I had suspicions of Jalan before because of the supposed ignorance of the 24-hour rule - thought they might have been an independent.

My personal suspicion right now is that we have (originally) 3 factions of four people, and two independents, one of which was Blend.

By the way, anyone else noticed that Rokkaku have been responsible for every night kill thus far, if I'm reading the scenes correctly?

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:55 PM

View PostTrake, on 24 July 2014 - 02:52 PM, said:

A lot of accusations flying around. I'm not sure which side to take on the Kalse/Jalan/Fener front. I had suspicions of Jalan before because of the supposed ignorance of the 24-hour rule - thought they might have been an independent.

My personal suspicion right now is that we have (originally) 3 factions of four people, and two independents, one of which was Blend.

By the way, anyone else noticed that Rokkaku have been responsible for every night kill thus far, if I'm reading the scenes correctly?


Fishing for information from Anthras because on thread, he was the only one to have mentioned it other than Brujah.

Looks like it is common knowledge though after my PM with Kalse, and that is the reason for him thinking Fener in a fourth faction.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 05:08 PM

Hmm. Shin is in bed so until he says otherwise could we stop being quite so casual with the meta? I.e throwing around names of living players.

Thanks.
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Posted 24 July 2014 - 05:11 PM

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…is not discouraged. Meta arguments will be allowed, so no one need fear modkill in that regard. Please do not view this as an encouragement of meta, just that it is allowable. Whether or not anyone wishes to take advantage of this rule is up to them.



*by “role”, I mean choice of characters like “Oda Nobunaga”, “Maeda Keiji” or “Ashikaga Yoshiteru”, not ability type.

sorry. this was what i was going off of.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 05:21 PM

I simply have no idea how loosely he's wanting the leash held. For all i know he'll say it's fine fun and fundamentally functional.
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Posted 24 July 2014 - 05:52 PM

It is Day 3 27 hours and 10 minutes remain.


8 players are alive:
Anthras, Fener, Jalan, Kalse, Silchas Ruin, Tellan, Trake, Ultama

5 votes to lynch, 5 to go to night

1 vote Fener: Kalse
1 vote Kalse: Jalan, Anthras

players not voted: Fener, Silchas Ruin, Tellan, Trake, Ultama

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 24 July 2014 - 05:53 PM

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:06 PM

View PostKalse, on 24 July 2014 - 12:49 PM, said:

And by talking to you, I mean off thread coms.

You see I am very confident now that the game is a 4 faction game with 3 roles per faction and 1 assassin. There are only a few people who can start off thread coms, me and Ultima being two of them. More over, anyone confused by the significance of 24 hours is probably a leader (though I haven't ruled out seconds).


Well, that is interesting and makes it easy for me. With you having the same role as me, you are obvioulsy not in my team. Also, like Jalan, I'm curious about you being so sure about the four factions.

vote Kalse

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:10 PM

View PostUltama, on 24 July 2014 - 07:06 PM, said:

View PostKalse, on 24 July 2014 - 12:49 PM, said:

And by talking to you, I mean off thread coms.

You see I am very confident now that the game is a 4 faction game with 3 roles per faction and 1 assassin. There are only a few people who can start off thread coms, me and Ultima being two of them. More over, anyone confused by the significance of 24 hours is probably a leader (though I haven't ruled out seconds).


Well, that is interesting and makes it easy for me. With you having the same role as me, you are obvioulsy not in my team. Also, like Jalan, I'm curious about you being so sure about the four factions.

vote Kalse


Great analysis. Not OMGUS at all ^_^

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:13 PM

View PostKalse, on 24 July 2014 - 07:10 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 24 July 2014 - 07:06 PM, said:

View PostKalse, on 24 July 2014 - 12:49 PM, said:

And by talking to you, I mean off thread coms.

You see I am very confident now that the game is a 4 faction game with 3 roles per faction and 1 assassin. There are only a few people who can start off thread coms, me and Ultima being two of them. More over, anyone confused by the significance of 24 hours is probably a leader (though I haven't ruled out seconds).


Well, that is interesting and makes it easy for me. With you having the same role as me, you are obvioulsy not in my team. Also, like Jalan, I'm curious about you being so sure about the four factions.

vote Kalse


Great analysis. Not OMGUS at all ^_^


What analysis? What OMGUS? As I said, your post makes a voting choice for me easy today. :p

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:19 PM

View PostUltama, on 24 July 2014 - 07:13 PM, said:

View PostKalse, on 24 July 2014 - 07:10 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 24 July 2014 - 07:06 PM, said:

View PostKalse, on 24 July 2014 - 12:49 PM, said:

And by talking to you, I mean off thread coms.

You see I am very confident now that the game is a 4 faction game with 3 roles per faction and 1 assassin. There are only a few people who can start off thread coms, me and Ultima being two of them. More over, anyone confused by the significance of 24 hours is probably a leader (though I haven't ruled out seconds).


Well, that is interesting and makes it easy for me. With you having the same role as me, you are obvioulsy not in my team. Also, like Jalan, I'm curious about you being so sure about the four factions.

vote Kalse


Great analysis. Not OMGUS at all ^_^


What analysis? What OMGUS? As I said, your post makes a voting choice for me easy today. :p


Exactly my lady ::bows::

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:33 PM

Apologies for my low posting, things have been busier than I had anticipated. I'll try to post some thoughts in my lunch break, but I may not be able to post fully until tonight.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:46 PM

I think I will also vote Kalse, though I don't want to put him on L-1 so soon. I would like to hear what Silchas might have to say after their long absence.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:58 PM

Regarding Meta, I haven't seen anything I disapprove of per the rules of this game.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:11 PM

It is Day 3 22 hours and 50 minutes remain.


8 players are alive:
Anthras, Fener, Jalan, Kalse, Silchas Ruin, Tellan, Trake, Ultama

5 votes to lynch, 5 to go to night

1 vote Fener: Kalse
3 votes Kalse: Jalan, Anthras, Ultama

players not voted: Fener, Silchas Ruin, Tellan, Trake
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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:25 PM

I do find it intriguing how people seem to believe me in what role I claim, but say that I'm to be lynched because I'm supposedly on the fourth faction. So, we are lynching the bottom rung based on the equivalent word of a second when there is a leader candidate rudely staring everyone in the face.

I've never understood faction games. Give me a juicy M&P RI role anyday.

And thanks Shin.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:58 PM

View PostKalse, on 24 July 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:

I do find it intriguing how people seem to believe me in what role I claim, but say that I'm to be lynched because I'm supposedly on the fourth faction. So, we are lynching the bottom rung based on the equivalent word of a second when there is a leader candidate rudely staring everyone in the face.

I've never understood faction games. Give me a juicy M&P RI role anyday.

And thanks Shin.



Well I'd lynch you even though I don't think you're in any fourth faction ^_^

It's more and at the same time a lot less complicated than how you lay it out, at least for me. I've seen nothing to absolutely convince me of what rank you, Jalan, or Fener might be. But rank isn't really the issue which bothers me right now. I'm really solely interested in not lynching a fellow faction member. So it boils down to whether I think you're in my faction or not, and I don't think you are.

I'll be around a couple more hours or so and then probably lay down a vote. I have to say Silchas' non-input irks me.

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