[Jalan]

Kalse, on 24 July 2014 - 12:15 PM, said:

Bad times for HO's favorite team.

I am disappointed that we didn't get a role title off Lady Bliss. Though the consistent loss o leaders makes me think that the killers know their own leaders (but why they didn't get them night 1 like D'rek's killer baffles me).

I thought Not Not Apsalar was Obdigore.

[Jalan]

Kalse, on 24 July 2014 - 12:23 PM, said:

And two kills again. Does that mean 2 assassins? Several people with one off vigs?

Several would implicate you. That is the second time you have hinted as such

[Jalan]

Just cause I was reading up anyway.

Kalse, on 22 July 2014 - 10:15 PM, said:

Also at least 4 killers so far (presuming Blend would have killed had he the chance). I guess Shin's dream of diplomacy over bloodshed is lost.

Kalse, on 22 July 2014 - 10:40 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 July 2014 - 10:35 PM, said:

Now that's what can be quite easily construed as a slip. Hmm. 13 doesn't divide, so maybe we've found another assassin?

Possibly, but frankly unlikely. I can easily quote some of my PM to prove otherwise (not that I'm going to do so at this juncture).

Galain, on 23 July 2014 - 12:12 AM, said:

Kalse, on 22 July 2014 - 10:40 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 July 2014 - 10:35 PM, said:

Now that's what can be quite easily construed as a slip. Hmm. 13 doesn't divide, so maybe we've found another assassin?

Possibly, but frankly unlikely. I can easily quote some of my PM to prove otherwise (not that I'm going to do so at this juncture).

How can you possibly be an assassin? Either you are or you aren't. How is it unlikely? This implies that you may sometimes be an assassin. Maybe a vig?

See what I mean?

Kalse, on 23 July 2014 - 03:13 PM, said:

Tellan, on 23 July 2014 - 12:56 PM, said:

Hmmm.....so are you assuming that I started as 2nd or, if possible, I was promoted?

Tellan, on 23 July 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

Hmmm....would being lynched count as dying honorably?

I guess this could be slip-up #3, although seems this sounds more of a low caliber role. But the statements seem so out of place, so I was wondering if this was intentional misguidance...

For reference to Tellan's reveal

Kalse, on 24 July 2014 - 01:59 AM, said:

I'm not sure really what to do with the day. I mean, we know the existence of 4 (if I counted correctly) different roles and have some good guesses as to what they can do. I think there is a lot of information on thread in the form of speculation, but I feel like this game is happening mostly off thread and at night (I know that some random person started a PM conversation with me today that will end today. They've basically told me nothing and the same has been reciprocated).

So I guess I agree that might as well confirm the full (-ish) picture, and get a role off of Galain, since I really don't want to hit my leader.

Vote Galain

I have to go to bed in a few minutes, anyone around to discuss (or pretend to at least)?

Finally this post. This post irks me for 2 reasons. The first is simple. You are telling us that a person initiated a lover bond / conversation with you and that you got nothing from it. Which is a lie.
The second reason is because you have initiated a lover conversation with me today.

You know for a fact that Ultama is not in your faction, you said that they have the same role as you and that, that role is different to what we have seen already.

[Kalse]

Actually, talking to you right now Tatts...i mean...jalan has led me to several conclusions. First, you are not a ladder climber. That means you are a second or the final leader. Second, you are not on my team (my leader is dead). Which evidences what I think you are, namely, a leader.

Vote Jalan

[Kalse]

And by talking to you, I mean off thread coms.

You see I am very confident now that the game is a 4 faction game with 3 roles per faction and 1 assassin. There are only a few people who can start off thread coms, me and Ultima being two of them. More over, anyone confused by the significance of 24 hours is probably a leader (though I haven't ruled out seconds).

[Tellan]

@Jalan dont you mean GALAIN's reveal?? I didnt reveal shit. I posed a couple of questions to try to get more info out of him.

[Jalan]

Tellan, on 24 July 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:

@Jalan dont you mean GALAIN's reveal?? I didnt reveal shit. I posed a couple of questions to try to get more info out of him.

That post I quoted. I think we all got confused between Galain and you and I think the fault lied at Kalse' feet.

[Kalse]

Jalan, on 24 July 2014 - 12:39 PM, said:

Just cause I was reading up anyway.

Kalse, on 22 July 2014 - 10:15 PM, said:

Also at least 4 killers so far (presuming Blend would have killed had he the chance). I guess Shin's dream of diplomacy over bloodshed is lost.

Kalse, on 22 July 2014 - 10:40 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 July 2014 - 10:35 PM, said:

Now that's what can be quite easily construed as a slip. Hmm. 13 doesn't divide, so maybe we've found another assassin?

Possibly, but frankly unlikely. I can easily quote some of my PM to prove otherwise (not that I'm going to do so at this juncture).

Galain, on 23 July 2014 - 12:12 AM, said:

Kalse, on 22 July 2014 - 10:40 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 July 2014 - 10:35 PM, said:

Now that's what can be quite easily construed as a slip. Hmm. 13 doesn't divide, so maybe we've found another assassin?

Possibly, but frankly unlikely. I can easily quote some of my PM to prove otherwise (not that I'm going to do so at this juncture).

How can you possibly be an assassin? Either you are or you aren't. How is it unlikely? This implies that you may sometimes be an assassin. Maybe a vig?

See what I mean?

Kalse, on 23 July 2014 - 03:13 PM, said:

Tellan, on 23 July 2014 - 12:56 PM, said:

Hmmm.....so are you assuming that I started as 2nd or, if possible, I was promoted?

Tellan, on 23 July 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

Hmmm....would being lynched count as dying honorably?

I guess this could be slip-up #3, although seems this sounds more of a low caliber role. But the statements seem so out of place, so I was wondering if this was intentional misguidance...

For reference to Tellan's reveal

Kalse, on 24 July 2014 - 01:59 AM, said:

I'm not sure really what to do with the day. I mean, we know the existence of 4 (if I counted correctly) different roles and have some good guesses as to what they can do. I think there is a lot of information on thread in the form of speculation, but I feel like this game is happening mostly off thread and at night (I know that some random person started a PM conversation with me today that will end today. They've basically told me nothing and the same has been reciprocated).

So I guess I agree that might as well confirm the full (-ish) picture, and get a role off of Galain, since I really don't want to hit my leader.

Vote Galain

I have to go to bed in a few minutes, anyone around to discuss (or pretend to at least)?

Finally this post. This post irks me for 2 reasons. The first is simple. You are telling us that a person initiated a lover bond / conversation with you and that you got nothing from it. Which is a lie.
The second reason is because you have initiated a lover conversation with me today.

You know for a fact that Ultama is not in your faction, you said that they have the same role as you and that, that role is different to what we have seen already.

Clearly you don't understand my role, given that you first say I contacted Ultima but then say she has my role. If she has my role, shr can establish off thread coms.

[Jalan]

Kalse, on 24 July 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:

Jalan, on 24 July 2014 - 12:39 PM, said:

Just cause I was reading up anyway.

Kalse, on 22 July 2014 - 10:15 PM, said:

Also at least 4 killers so far (presuming Blend would have killed had he the chance). I guess Shin's dream of diplomacy over bloodshed is lost.

Kalse, on 22 July 2014 - 10:40 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 July 2014 - 10:35 PM, said:

Now that's what can be quite easily construed as a slip. Hmm. 13 doesn't divide, so maybe we've found another assassin?

Possibly, but frankly unlikely. I can easily quote some of my PM to prove otherwise (not that I'm going to do so at this juncture).

Galain, on 23 July 2014 - 12:12 AM, said:

Kalse, on 22 July 2014 - 10:40 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 July 2014 - 10:35 PM, said:

Now that's what can be quite easily construed as a slip. Hmm. 13 doesn't divide, so maybe we've found another assassin?

Possibly, but frankly unlikely. I can easily quote some of my PM to prove otherwise (not that I'm going to do so at this juncture).

How can you possibly be an assassin? Either you are or you aren't. How is it unlikely? This implies that you may sometimes be an assassin. Maybe a vig?

See what I mean?

Kalse, on 23 July 2014 - 03:13 PM, said:

Tellan, on 23 July 2014 - 12:56 PM, said:

Hmmm.....so are you assuming that I started as 2nd or, if possible, I was promoted?

Tellan, on 23 July 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

Hmmm....would being lynched count as dying honorably?

I guess this could be slip-up #3, although seems this sounds more of a low caliber role. But the statements seem so out of place, so I was wondering if this was intentional misguidance...

For reference to Tellan's reveal

Kalse, on 24 July 2014 - 01:59 AM, said:

I'm not sure really what to do with the day. I mean, we know the existence of 4 (if I counted correctly) different roles and have some good guesses as to what they can do. I think there is a lot of information on thread in the form of speculation, but I feel like this game is happening mostly off thread and at night (I know that some random person started a PM conversation with me today that will end today. They've basically told me nothing and the same has been reciprocated).

So I guess I agree that might as well confirm the full (-ish) picture, and get a role off of Galain, since I really don't want to hit my leader.

Vote Galain

I have to go to bed in a few minutes, anyone around to discuss (or pretend to at least)?

Finally this post. This post irks me for 2 reasons. The first is simple. You are telling us that a person initiated a lover bond / conversation with you and that you got nothing from it. Which is a lie.
The second reason is because you have initiated a lover conversation with me today.

You know for a fact that Ultama is not in your faction, you said that they have the same role as you and that, that role is different to what we have seen already.

Clearly you don't understand my role, given that you first say I contacted Ultima but then say she has my role. If she has my role, shr can establish off thread coms.

read underlined.


I cannot believe you continue to lie. I love the OMGus vote.

[Kalse]

You are telling me I lied about Ultima establishing a lover connection with me. I am saying she did. I don't see your point.

Oh, and I guess people should know you have an ability that requires alting people. That was kind off a surprise to me.

[Jalan]

Kalse says they are Gust hubb and that they know Ultama has the same role as them. I don't know how they "know" this.

Kalse does not know who I am, he is just guessing but he is obviously worried about us voting for him, hence his immediate push towards me.

I could have kept quiet about him opening the lover bond with me but I think he was being sneaky, trying to feed me false information.

He claims to be the same role as Lady Bliss and that he also has the same role as Ultama, by lynching Kalse we not only find out his faction and role but it will shed light on another player.

Vote Kalse

[Jalan]

Kalse, on 24 July 2014 - 01:04 PM, said:

You are telling me I lied about Ultima establishing a lover connection with me. I am saying she did. I don't see your point.

Oh, and I guess people should know you have an ability that requires alting people. That was kind off a surprise to me.

2 lies from you in one post.

I said you lied that the lover bond with Ultama gave you no information ie

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and that you got nothing from it. Which is a lie.

The second part there, is that you opened a lover conversation with my mafia alt not with Jalan. Hence using an ability to alt people. So that is your own ability you are trying to pass off.

[Jalan]

Kalse keeps mentioning an unknown faction in PM's.

I am of one of the already established factions. I want to see who and what Kalse is.

[Anthras]

Hmm, who to vote with? I don't think either of you are on my team, and the idea of off thread comms doesn't reassure me, but if Jalan's a leader he should be lynched. I'm torn right now, will be around and considering my options.

[Kalse]

I believe there are only 4 people who can establish off thread coms. I know Ultima is one of them. I was also able to personally corroborate all of Galain's mechanisms yesterday, which makes him the third of my role, and also meant off thread coms. We have one other person like us out there I think, but if I am wrong about 4 factions, we have one more role.

There appears to be one role unconcerned about being alted. This appears to be the leader role if Omtose is any indication. This is the 24 hour rule, namely a game condition that requires alt guesses to be submitted within the 1st 24 hours, hence the silence of most (but not Blend and IB) during the early game.

Now that Jalan has revealed his knowledge of 24 hours, and has not acted anything like the Tatts we know and love, I retract my accusation that he was an original leader. He is most likely still on top given he is a second by process of elimination, and given the paucity of leaders.

[Jalan]

Anthras, on 24 July 2014 - 01:15 PM, said:

Hmm, who to vote with? I don't think either of you are on my team, and the idea of off thread comms doesn't reassure me, but if Jalan's a leader he should be lynched. I'm torn right now, will be around and considering my options.

I think you could be on my team to be perfectly honest.

[Jalan]

Kalse, on 24 July 2014 - 01:20 PM, said:

I believe there are only 4 people who can establish off thread coms. I know Ultima is one of them. I was also able to personally corroborate all of Galain's mechanisms yesterday, which makes him the third of my role, and also meant off thread coms. We have one other person like us out there I think, but if I am wrong about 4 factions, we have one more role.

There appears to be one role unconcerned about being alted. This appears to be the leader role if Omtose is any indication. This is the 24 hour rule, namely a game condition that requires alt guesses to be submitted within the 1st 24 hours, hence the silence of most (but not Blend and IB) during the early game.

Now that Jalan has revealed his knowledge of 24 hours, and has not acted anything like the Tatts we know and love, I retract my accusation that he was an original leader. He is most likely still on top given he is a second by process of elimination, and given the paucity of leaders.

See Kalse keeps saying 4 factions, 4 roles of the same type and the only way he could be sure of that is by being of an unknown faction. If I am right, then his untouched faction is in the best position right now to eliminate other factions as they would be 3 strong, to 2, 1, 1, 1.

[Anthras]

Jalan, on 24 July 2014 - 01:26 PM, said:

Anthras, on 24 July 2014 - 01:15 PM, said:

Hmm, who to vote with? I don't think either of you are on my team, and the idea of off thread comms doesn't reassure me, but if Jalan's a leader he should be lynched. I'm torn right now, will be around and considering my options.

I think you could be on my team to be perfectly honest.

I might be, but I'm as close to certain as i could be that Kalse isn't on my or our team.

[Anthras]

I think finding out if there's a 4th faction or not is a worthy idea.

Vote Kalse

[Kalse]

Anthras, on 24 July 2014 - 01:32 PM, said:

I think finding out if there's a 4th faction or not is a worthy idea.

Vote Kalse

I'll be sorry to disappoint then.