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MAFIA 113.25 Unalted Mini ( Come on town you can do it)

#181 User is offline   Khellendros 

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 01:15 AM

I'd quite like to vote Unfound, but I'm loath to start yet another train, especially as I likely won't be around again before day times out. I'd also quite like to vote HO, but then I'd be joining Tatts on the train.

So I'll go with

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 01:17 AM

Khell I always ask questions, have you forgotten? You're flailing a bit. And any use of context should reveal that my comment about being out of words was sarcastic, responding to Shin's harassment. I always sign off properly when able
HiddenOne. You son of a bitch. You slimy, skulking, low-posting scumbag. You knew it would come to this. Roundabout, maybe. Tortuous, certainly. But here we are, you and me again. I started the train on you so many many hours ago, and now I'm going to finish it. Die HO. Die. This is for last time, and this is for this game too. This is for all the people who died to your backstabbing, treacherous, "I sure don't know what's going on around here" filthy lying, deceitful ways. You son of a bitch. Whatever happens, this is justice. For me, this is justice. Vote HiddenOne Finally, I am at peace.
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Posted 01 July 2014 - 01:18 AM

You feel like scum right now and you have all day
HiddenOne. You son of a bitch. You slimy, skulking, low-posting scumbag. You knew it would come to this. Roundabout, maybe. Tortuous, certainly. But here we are, you and me again. I started the train on you so many many hours ago, and now I'm going to finish it. Die HO. Die. This is for last time, and this is for this game too. This is for all the people who died to your backstabbing, treacherous, "I sure don't know what's going on around here" filthy lying, deceitful ways. You son of a bitch. Whatever happens, this is justice. For me, this is justice. Vote HiddenOne Finally, I am at peace.
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#184 User is offline   Khellendros 

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 01:21 AM

View PostHiddenOne, on 01 July 2014 - 01:18 AM, said:

You feel like scum right now and you have all day



If you've felt like that all day about me then why haven't you voted for me already? What's stopping you? If that's the way you feel then vote away.

Of course, if you can come up with more than a "feeling" that might also be useful.
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#185 User is offline   Khellendros 

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 01:23 AM

View PostHiddenOne, on 01 July 2014 - 01:17 AM, said:

Khell I always ask questions, have you forgotten? You're flailing a bit. And any use of context should reveal that my comment about being out of words was sarcastic, responding to Shin's harassment. I always sign off properly when able



It didn't read as sarcastic to me when I was reading up, looked like you were really signing off. But I accept that as a plausible explanation for your continued presence.
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Posted 01 July 2014 - 01:27 AM

Nothing but a little gut ,sad to say

vote Khell

That better?
HiddenOne. You son of a bitch. You slimy, skulking, low-posting scumbag. You knew it would come to this. Roundabout, maybe. Tortuous, certainly. But here we are, you and me again. I started the train on you so many many hours ago, and now I'm going to finish it. Die HO. Die. This is for last time, and this is for this game too. This is for all the people who died to your backstabbing, treacherous, "I sure don't know what's going on around here" filthy lying, deceitful ways. You son of a bitch. Whatever happens, this is justice. For me, this is justice. Vote HiddenOne Finally, I am at peace.
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Posted 01 July 2014 - 02:06 AM

Now I'm going to bed, should be back in about 10 hours
HiddenOne. You son of a bitch. You slimy, skulking, low-posting scumbag. You knew it would come to this. Roundabout, maybe. Tortuous, certainly. But here we are, you and me again. I started the train on you so many many hours ago, and now I'm going to finish it. Die HO. Die. This is for last time, and this is for this game too. This is for all the people who died to your backstabbing, treacherous, "I sure don't know what's going on around here" filthy lying, deceitful ways. You son of a bitch. Whatever happens, this is justice. For me, this is justice. Vote HiddenOne Finally, I am at peace.
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Posted 01 July 2014 - 03:02 AM

Currently 14 hours and 02 minutes.

Alive
AzathMaster, EM,Gnaw,GH, HO,Inane Babble, Khell,Messem,Shinrei,Sir Thursday, Tatt's, Tapper, The Unfound

7 to lynch or 7 to go to night.

1 vote for Messremb (Sir Thursday)
2 votes for Azathmaster (GH, khell)
1 vote for HO ( Tatts)
1 vote for Tatts (Gnaw)
2 votes for khell (shinrei, HO)


Not voted

Everyone else.

I am going to bed. So you will be mod less for the next 9 hours.
How many fucking people do I have to hammer in order to get that across.
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#189 User is offline   Shinrei 

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 03:45 AM

View PostHiddenOne, on 01 July 2014 - 01:17 AM, said:

Khell I always ask questions, have you forgotten? You're flailing a bit. And any use of context should reveal that my comment about being out of words was sarcastic, responding to Shin's harassmentjust punishment. I always sign off properly when able


Fixed. :)

I will have spotty internet until tonight, but I will have real time to catch up on reading well before time out.

Khell, we have plenty of time, I wouldn't be so reticent to start a new train.

Here, I'll start.

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Vote InaneBabble


Because it might be legit signaling.
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Posted 01 July 2014 - 03:48 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 01 July 2014 - 01:15 AM, said:

I'd quite like to vote Unfound, but I'm loath to start yet another train, especially as I likely won't be around again before day times out. I'd also quite like to vote HO, but then I'd be joining Tatts on the train.

So I'll go with

Remove Vote

Vote Azathmaster



And that would seem to make you partners or something?
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Posted 01 July 2014 - 05:26 AM

I have a day to catch up to, will need some time for that.
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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:20 AM

View PostSir Thursday, on 30 June 2014 - 11:57 PM, said:

View PostMessremb, on 30 June 2014 - 11:39 PM, said:

Just got to point out how you could be seen to be signalling Khell and AM with your first quoted posts here :pOh and avatar is back to normal
Why do you leave yourself out from that list? I've interacted with you just as much as the other two :). Actually, you've been bouncing around an awful lot - when I read through I found you trying interact with at least half the players in the game:Tattersail - Post 84Hidden One - Post 86Gust Hubb - Post 97Inane Babble - Post 113Khellendros - Post 142Sir Thursday - Post 149Quite an impressive list, it must be said.ETA: X-Post with Messremb leaving for the night.


Aye, agreed - I make a terrible symp. How are my masters to tell who I am signalling their partner is from that? Sorry but if no-one interacts we're screwed.

View PostSir Thursday, on 01 July 2014 - 12:01 AM, said:

In fact, given the way Messremb has been spraying himself across the thread, I think I'll leave my vote where it is for now. In a normal game I'd applaud him for trying to create those interactions, but in a game where signalling is going to be paramount I feel like he could be trying to muddy the waters a bit. Consider this an upgrade from a joke vote to a 'slightly more serious, I'm about to go to bed now and feel better having left a vote down' type vote.ST


I guess this is a kick to me to go and look for technical interactions on thread? Not sure I have the time - 5 hours left maybe and I need to do some work at least. I will be around, just can't do too much when my boss sits behind me.
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#193 User is offline   Messremb 

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:21 AM

View PostVengeance, on 01 July 2014 - 03:02 AM, said:

Currently 14 hours and 02 minutes.

Alive
AzathMaster, EM,Gnaw,GH, HO,Inane Babble, Khell,Messem,Shinrei,Sir Thursday, Tatt's, Tapper, The Unfound

7 to lynch or 7 to go to night.

1 vote for Messremb (Sir Thursday)
2 votes for Azathmaster (GH, khell)
1 vote for HO ( Tatts)
1 vote for Tatts (Gnaw)
2 votes for khell (shinrei, HO)


Not voted

Everyone else.

I am going to bed. So you will be mod less for the next 9 hours.


Both GH and Khell on the same train. My curiosity is peaked
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#194 User is offline   Shinrei 

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:25 AM

I just did a re-read of the first 2 pages, and it really strikes me that if anyone is signalling both masters, it's Tattersail with Inane and Unfound. I would like to lynch one of them to see if anything is there.

That's all I have time for atm, will re-read the rest later.
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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:39 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 30 June 2014 - 03:32 PM, said:

They're clearly having an off-thread conversation.

I think you mean, LOVERS.
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Posted 01 July 2014 - 08:49 AM

View PostShinrei, on 01 July 2014 - 08:25 AM, said:

I just did a re-read of the first 2 pages, and it really strikes me that if anyone is signalling both masters, it's Tattersail with Inane and Unfound. I would like to lynch one of them to see if anything is there.

That's all I have time for atm, will re-read the rest later.

It does suit Vengy to make the guy who's always framed as a symp when he is a towny a symp, and the two latest players to join us, scum - since we'll be blinded by settling scores.

I WANT TO VOTE TATTS. BUT IN THE ABOVE SCENARIO, TATTS CF WOULD PROVE NOTHING :)

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Because I like sir Thursday's 'slip' case.
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Posted 01 July 2014 - 09:19 AM

View PostTapper, on 01 July 2014 - 08:49 AM, said:

View PostShinrei, on 01 July 2014 - 08:25 AM, said:

I just did a re-read of the first 2 pages, and it really strikes me that if anyone is signalling both masters, it's Tattersail with Inane and Unfound. I would like to lynch one of them to see if anything is there.

That's all I have time for atm, will re-read the rest later.

It does suit Vengy to make the guy who's always framed as a symp when he is a towny a symp, and the two latest players to join us, scum - since we'll be blinded by settling scores.

I WANT TO VOTE TATTS. BUT IN THE ABOVE SCENARIO, TATTS CF WOULD PROVE NOTHING :)

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Vote Khell


Because I like sir Thursday's 'slip' case.


Bit of a stretch for a lynch with this slip case, but it does look somewhat reasonable for a Day 1 lynch I suppose. Perhaps he realized he sounded a little too certain of the setup and was trying to back off from such an assertive position.

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 09:26 AM

For the benefit of Tapper I will try to fit my thoughts into one post;

I do not think we will catch signalling today but I do think we will find it at a later date, ie, less people around, looking back through day one. Just browsing through the thread possible signals include;

Azath's first post

View PostAzathmaster, on 30 June 2014 - 01:48 PM, said:

Vote Gusty

I still haven't forgiven you



Shin's first post;

View PostShinrei, on 30 June 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:

Vote HiddenOne
because he deserves it


Both of these have old rivalries but could be a vote signal, however, in my opinion the signal will be a lot more subtle than this.

For those looking at me as someone who may have signalled, you are wrong, but I can see the Inane connection with the bears in the woods. It was meant as an RI to another "potential" RI, I am in no way certain of anyone's CF so my opinion of Inane is Meh right now.

Messremb "liking my penguin Gif" got my hackles up a little, possible set up from Messremb? Although the Gif's are sort of cool but I would think they go without saying.

Gust Hubb could be signalling EM and Khells here;

View PostGust Hubb, on 30 June 2014 - 03:40 PM, said:

View PostMessremb, on 30 June 2014 - 03:39 PM, said:

View PostGust Hubb, on 30 June 2014 - 03:37 PM, said:

Here.

So with the subtitle, I must ask, were the roles given out randomly? If not, maybe Vengance had a moment of kindness and gave us the most lynch-able people as scum.


Who do you consider to be most lynchable just for who they are?


Easy. Tatts, EM, and Khells.



he puts them in this order so that if and when I am lynched the second two would be a harder lynch in future, he can piggy back off my CF to move away from the other two.

We do have to be wary when one person puts more than one alt in their posts.

Again, say he first 3, ie EM, Khell and I, are all duds, then his next post is interesting

View PostGust Hubb, on 30 June 2014 - 03:43 PM, said:

I don't think I've ever played with The Unfound nor Inane Babble (however much IB has been a conversation started in previous games). This should be interesting in that regard. I guess the best bet is to look at people, remember their playstyle, and try to judge if they are any different than before. Also, I feel like those that usually try to signal when they are scum should be given additional scrutiny, especially by those with code cracking abilities.



If either Inane or Unfound come up scum then this is one post that we can look back to for the other killer.

From the above I am leaning towards Unfound or Inane at the moment


Messremb's vote and remove of Sir Thursday could be seen as signalling, did the scum team not do that last game?

Then you got ST quoting both AM and Khell, this is quite a good catch by Messremb. I would have over looked it otherwise.

Which then prompts Khell to vote AM? Distancing maybe?

So right now, possible Symps that have included two alt in their posts are Gust or ST

That makes the killers either Inane and Unfound or Khell and AM

I would be happy voting for any of these 4.


Other things I notice as I am looking for signals;

HiddenOne actually commenting on the lurking accusation, it was too early in the game to be accused of that but him defending it makes it look like he actually WAS lurking. (Shinrei notices this)

EM's conviction that I am scum, he does not even look at anyone else in the thread, but fixates on me, a bit narrow minded of him.

Khell's first post highlights 3 players, straight off the bat, Inane, HO and myself, this seems jokey but you never know with Khell. Quite a few players had yet to make an appearance and he is already calling out 3 players. Make that 4 by his second post.

Messremb notices HO is actually posting different than his usual self.

Gust does not like Azath's brief accusation, it looks like he is a little jumpy. (He votes for Azath as well.

Ho says Gust is acting scummy so I would not relate HO and Gusty together.

Unfound is wary of Gust Hubb, no does this stem from him being mentioned in Gust Hubb's posts? So therefore it is a sort of OMGUS sort of wariness?

View PostThe Unfound, on 30 June 2014 - 08:31 PM, said:

Well it seems to be a typical Day 1 with much goofing around. Being new makes it a little difficult for me to tell when some of you are joking at times. But I will roll with it. Tatts is acting like Tatts and vomiting gifs and pics all over the thread. Which would usually lead me to believe that he is clouding things for everyone, but...well like I said its Tatts. Im not willing to make that leap quite yet, but as always I will keep an eye on him, even if its simply because his posting style pisses me off. GH's little poke at AM getting such a quick response rings a couple bells.



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Posted 01 July 2014 - 09:27 AM

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That took a long time to post and didn't realise 2 votes went in on Khell

Vote Inane Babble
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Posted 01 July 2014 - 09:29 AM

View PostShinrei, on 01 July 2014 - 08:25 AM, said:

I just did a re-read of the first 2 pages, and it really strikes me that if anyone is signalling both masters, it's Tattersail with Inane and Unfound. I would like to lynch one of them to see if anything is there.

That's all I have time for atm, will re-read the rest later.


Swap those names with any other three in the thread (especially mess) and your statement would be just as strong imo. Just because tatts jokingly took the new guy under his wing doesn't mean anything other than we were screwing around on Day 1.
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