[Ampelas]

Almost went to sleep before remembering to change vote, here you go, can't wait to see what happens either way

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Vote Galayn Lord

[Galayn Lord]

Here and read up. Quit with the font rainbows.

Whilst I appreciate Liosan has had a boner for me since I voted him, that is a serious set of blinkers you've got on there L. Assume for a minute that I'm town. I'm lynched. Where do you see progression from there? Who will you "look at" next?

The original "case" on me was of me distancing from you. Now the only reason for that would be if we were both scum. I'm going to come up town which will peg you as a killer with me as your symp. See you in SH, bitch because I will CF as town (or not CF as Shin has been doing) where I will take great pleasure in a rant directed at you for being so blinkered.


So where do I stand on other alts?

SA: if scum, going to be enough to earn some enmity. Claims didn't know was in the game and seeking replacement, as post style shows has clearly not been replaced. HP was willing for a low poster hunt D1 - he can lead the way on a SA lynch no doubt.

HP: Seems to talk sense but I may be blinkered because he didn't lynch me. Do please bear in mind that we'd be doing exactly the same today with Kaschan had it been me lynched. Not sure on HP, could be either.

Eloth: Early makes some sense, explains his references when scum would have probably avoided making such calls (Ximenyr) that could be misconstrued. Makes a good point or two about Barghy. I was wavering but I'm coming down on E as town.

Nimander: Agrees with me on some things, can't see what the "case" on me was so props for having a brain. Clearly wanting someone else to make the call as to his vote at D2 EoD, either genuinely not sure or wanting to be able to pass the blame. Has stepped up quality of posts significantly (#397)

Liosan: Takes umbrage with me not liking his judging my posts alone on thread for town/scumminess, boner for me since. I'll go so far as to quote (I hadn't been intending to, the rest of you read up and form your own opinions):

Liosan, on 19 June 2014 - 12:41 AM, said:

Pallid, on 19 June 2014 - 12:36 AM, said:

Liosan, on 19 June 2014 - 12:24 AM, said:

Top 3 in order of most to least suspicious: are Galayn Lord, you(This is a mix of Amps case and some gut), then its a toss up after that, maybe Nimander i guess.

OK, interesting. What makes you put GL at the top of the queue (beyond the obvious OMGUS)?

Well a lot of it is his reaction to my post where I said that he wasn't as suspicious as he had been to me earlier in the day. Denul posts about it, saying that he wants to take a look at me and GL, then not long after that he seemed jumpy and tried to distance from me by voting for me for a flimsy reason (he didn't like the way I used single posts to make decisions, even though the posts I used were some of his few contributing posts at the time.) It got to my gut a lot.

So you're judging me, alone, on one of my few contributing posts and are totally ignoring the rest of thread. I can't help wondering if there is a scheme behind it - I'd like to think you're blinkered but can't help wondering. He has however tried to move on; others dragged it back to me today. First to mention on thread potential D-Day. Does a bit of train analysis - not enough mind you, you can probably draw out a little more from them but I'm not going to do it for you. Has a curious sentence in post 476 where a sentence ends "And since Gl " - I'm curious what this was to say Lio?

Amp: As I think I said before, trying to be annoying early doors but not trying too hard. I wonder still if it was setting the scene for a claim of no scum would do such a thing. Puts opinions and case out though and tries talking me out of self-voting. Amp, you were going to analyse the D2 train on me - please do so again and contrast it with this one. I had been leaning towards Amp as scum but on review I find myself going the other way. Even with the rainbow.

Denul: Some case building but does start the whole me distancing thing so I'm biased there. Happy to pull up Barghy when they claim me as PI/VPI/CI/whatever but also happy to speculate wildly as to what constitutes M&P. #2 poster and I don't see much I would disagree with there. Leaning town.

Barghast: I've already put my thoughts out on him, nothing further to add.


So conclusion? It is likely to be D-Day. Get and analyse thread. I want to see cases on everyone from SH.

Good night folks, I want to see who of you is actually scum before going to bed.

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Vote Galayn Lord

Adios.

[Liosan]

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No scum would self vote like that. I'm completely convinced that you're town at this point. I'm prepared to stake a lot on it. I'm going to keep my vote off of anyone right now.

[Shinrei]

It is Day 3, 3 hours and 32 minutes are left in the Day.

9 players are alive.

Ampelas, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

1 vote Denul: Sukul Ankhadu
1 vote Barghast: Eloth,
3 votes Galayn Lord: Denul, Ampelas, Galayn Lord

Players not voting:Barghast, Hood's Path, Liosan, Nimander Golit

This post has been edited by Shinrei: 24 June 2014 - 10:29 PM

[Galayn Lord]

You know I spent a good couple of minutes going through the posts, quoting the votes on me then as I was about to submit it proving how I was such a better counter than you I notice it is Denul at the top with 3 votes, not me

Aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrgghh

I was wondering at Liosan removing after what I thought was a hammer in there.

Cheers, guess I'm not dead yet! (yet!)

[Galayn Lord]

Galayn Lord, on 24 June 2014 - 10:37 PM, said:

You know I spent a good couple of minutes going through the posts, quoting the votes on me then as I was about to submit it proving how I was such a better counter than you I notice it is Denul at the top with 3 votes, not me

Aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrgghh

I was wondering at Liosan removing after what I thought was a hammer in there.

Cheers, guess I'm not dead yet! (yet!)

In the last update I meant, before this new one.

[Hood's Path]

I've had an absolutely wonderful day. Then log in to this shit storm...

[Hood's Path]

I'll read up while I'm getting some food. But the Lio and GL whiplash vote dance right there looks a lot like desperation to me.

[Galayn Lord]

Hood, on 24 June 2014 - 10:49 PM, said:

I'll read up while I'm getting some food. But the Lio and GL whiplash vote dance right there looks a lot like desperation to me.

The train is right there, jump on it.

[Galayn Lord]

Galayn Lord, on 24 June 2014 - 10:58 PM, said:

Hood, on 24 June 2014 - 10:49 PM, said:

I'll read up while I'm getting some food. But the Lio and GL whiplash vote dance right there looks a lot like desperation to me.

The train is right there, jump on it.

If you aren't going to then STFU about it.

I have had enough of the most pointless of cases. Lynch me.



Oh wait, you think I'm pushing too hard for my lynch? Well what exactly is the benefit to town of me being here? There is none.

[Hood's Path]

Hood, on 24 June 2014 - 10:49 PM, said:

I'll read up while I'm getting some food. But the Lio and GL whiplash vote dance right there looks a lot like desperation to me.

Glad I read back. Because I have a serious problem with a GL lynch based on wifom. To believe that GL is scum, I have to believe that Ampelas, Barghast, Nimander, myself, and now Lio are all partners with him or dupes. We've all resisted the lynch at some point.

So I went back to day one. And what I see is Denul pointing a finger at Lio and GL, then getting into a pissing match with him, then ignoring him (and the game), and today yelling his head off that we're all fools for not lynching based on the idea that we'll just be back to him tomorrow. That is admittedly a somewhat true statement. But again, I have to believe that he's managed to put reasonable doubt into a lot of experienced heads. And I have trouble doing that. So I'm going with the person who is stirring the shit.

Vote Denul

[Hood's Path]

Hood, on 25 June 2014 - 12:40 AM, said:

Hood, on 24 June 2014 - 10:49 PM, said:

I'll read up while I'm getting some food. But the Lio and GL whiplash vote dance right there looks a lot like desperation to me.

Glad I read back. Because I have a serious problem with a GL lynch based on wifom. To believe that GL is scum, I have to believe that Ampelas, Barghast, Nimander, myself, and now Lio are all partners with him or dupes. We've all resisted the lynch at some point.

So I went back to day one. And what I see is Denul pointing a finger at Lio and GL, then getting into a pissing match with him, then ignoring him (and the game), and today yelling his head off that we're all fools for not lynching based on the idea that we'll just be back to him tomorrow. That is admittedly a somewhat true statement. But again, I have to believe that he's managed to put reasonable doubt into a lot of experienced heads. And I have trouble doing that. So I'm going with the person who is stirring the shit.

Vote Denul

And shit. I got lost in the movie I was watching. There's only about 30 minutes left. No fucking way this is going to go anywhere except GL. It's either him or a no lynch. I'll put him back at L1. Somebody else can make the decision.

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[Liosan]

I'm honestly glad you counted wrong, GL , because if you had been right, you'd be dead, and your self-vote wouldn't have given me time to remove vote. I just want to put this out there though: Me relentlessly targetting you the first two days weren't only because of the one post everyone thinks it was about. It was for day one, but then seeing Nimander attempt to stall your lynch(yes it wouldn't have done anything either way, but its the thought that counts) made me more suspicious, but I wasn't sure of who yet. I assumed it was one scum defending the other, but then I realized that was waaaay too obvious, and after seeing how you being around after not only the first failed lynch, but the second (failed on you at least) that scum was keeping you around for the WIFOM factor. you self-voting and expecting to die from it is something no scum would do, and that gets rid of basically all the WIFOM for me. Now I think we need to go after those who tried to keep you around under the guise of "he doesn't deserve a lynch so I won't vote no matter how close he is to getting lynched"(not town play. A CF is always better than no CF.) Namely Ampelas and Nimander, with a look at Barghy too.

But I really don't feel comfortable voting Denul. I understand why people would vote him, but I also see where he's coming from in wanting to clear up the WIFOM. The problem is, Denul's asleep, apparently, so he can't respond to the new development that made me change my mind on voting GL. The other problem is we don't have enough time to wait for him to wake up. In a perfect world, day would be longer and we'd be able to wait for his response, but the world isn't perfect. I'll probably hammer if no one else comes along, because, as I've said over and over, a CF is always better than no CF. Especially the CF of someone who was so radically to one side of an argument over the fate of GL.

[Liosan]

Wow I just realized there weren't 4 votes on Denul... Was still acting on the old update

[Liosan]

Fuck. I'm so torn right now. I could humor Denul and get rid of the WIFOM, even though I'm convinced now that he's town, or a scum playing so well that he deserves MoM, or let us no-lynch. I'm leaning towards the lynch because it's better to be safe than sorry, and I'd rather not take the risk. D-Day will be tomorrow either way if there are 3 scum, so it's better to narrow it down a little more. We have like 40 minutes left or so. If it comes down to 15 minutes or so left, I'll hammer.

[Liosan]

Dammit. GL, no hard feelings, but there are some people who want confirmation as to your alignment, and it doesn't hurt to be sure. no other lynch is viable, and if there are 3 scum, its D-day tomorrow whether or not you get lynched.

Vote GL

[Sukul Ankhadu]

Fuck that. This is stupid, GL is clearly not scum

[Ampelas]

Liosan, on 25 June 2014 - 01:03 AM, said:

I'm honestly glad you counted wrong, GL , because if you had been right, you'd be dead, and your self-vote wouldn't have given me time to remove vote. I just want to put this out there though: Me relentlessly targetting you the first two days weren't only because of the one post everyone thinks it was about. It was for day one, but then seeing Nimander attempt to stall your lynch(yes it wouldn't have done anything either way, but its the thought that counts) made me more suspicious, but I wasn't sure of who yet. I assumed it was one scum defending the other, but then I realized that was waaaay too obvious, and after seeing how you being around after not only the first failed lynch, but the second (failed on you at least) that scum was keeping you around for the WIFOM factor. you self-voting and expecting to die from it is something no scum would do, and that gets rid of basically all the WIFOM for me. Now I think we need to go after those who tried to keep you around under the guise of "he doesn't deserve a lynch so I won't vote no matter how close he is to getting lynched"(not town play. A CF is always better than no CF.) Namely Ampelas and Nimander, with a look at Barghy too.

But I really don't feel comfortable voting Denul. I understand why people would vote him, but I also see where he's coming from in wanting to clear up the WIFOM. The problem is, Denul's asleep, apparently, so he can't respond to the new development that made me change my mind on voting GL. The other problem is we don't have enough time to wait for him to wake up. In a perfect world, day would be longer and we'd be able to wait for his response, but the world isn't perfect. I'll probably hammer if no one else comes along, because, as I've said over and over, a CF is always better than no CF. Especially the CF of someone who was so radically to one side of an argument over the fate of GL.

This whole thing has been fucking hilarious, but underlined takes the god damn cake.

You just formed the EXACT SAME OPINION that I did, that GL is way more likely to be town than scum, but the fact that it didn't take me as long to reach that conclusion makes me scummier? You just tried just a short time ago to stop his lynch train because you realized this. Does that make you scum as well?

Your actions EoD 3 mirror almost completely my actions EoD 2. Yet you are trying to direct attention to me and others but no mention of yourself. That does not add up.

You have GL CIed in your opinion but still voted, why? To appease the doubters. You just chose to get rid of one of the only people in the game you were sure was on "your side" because the others would not/could not just drop the fucking WIFOM. Does the name Denul ring a bell?

[Barghast]

I thought we had more time. Someone said yesterday, in RL time, that we had 22 hours left, so I was hoping to get on before timeout.

[Barghast]

Hood, on 24 June 2014 - 03:26 AM, said:

Shinrei, on 23 June 2014 - 10:51 PM, said:

It is Day 3, 27 hours are left in the Day.

9 players are alive.

Ampelas, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

1 vote Denul: Barghast
1 vote Barghast: Eloth
2 votes Galayn Lord: Denul, Ampelas

Players not voting: Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

Over 22 hours left, so plenty of time.

Eloth, I'm fucked if I can see the case against Barghast. It comes down not to deflecting/resisting the GL lynch, but to the way he did it?

Has 22 hours gone by since this post?