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Mafia 112.5 Betrayal at House on the Hill

#441 User is offline   Denul 

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 12:26 PM

Lynch me.

Fuck yourselves. There is no case. Only "he looks scummy".

I come up town, you say symp. Fuck it. I don't need to play the game. You're all lazy fuckers anyway.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 12:32 PM

Getting caught up. Sorry for missing the day yesterday. I fully expected to be able to come back and post. Yesterday was my Wedding Anniversary and I had to run to get a present for the wife and then get home and make dinner. Give me a little bit to get caught up.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 12:40 PM

View PostPallid, on 28 May 2014 - 12:20 PM, said:

actually no, fuck it.
vote Denul

he been scummy al game and what tips it for me is his reaching and 'the longer you stay alive the more suspicious I am of you eloth' post, screams signalling instructions or setting up for a future lynch by keeping him alive, it just reeks of scum


Sucks that we missed a lynch but at least there wasn't a NK. I agree that speculating why there wasn't a nk is as pointless as speculating why someone died. I do not think that Denul is scum a little scummy and spastic but not scum. I thought that Eloth is scummy and frankly the fact that he revealed and then wasn't nked is very very suspicious to me. I am still reading upn.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 12:51 PM

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 11:53 AM, said:


Kaschan/Sukul didn't vote but were not around at all towards end of day. So these are less likely scum suspects imo.




Unless of course they weren't able to confirm a change of kill choice.

I'm curious of the vote on Nimander, tbh. On the one hand, the lynch perhaps failed because Nimander bugged out, so yeah, that's scummy. But doesn't that mean that Barghast is likely scum? Scum tend to want lynches as much as town to bring the game closer to their VC. If they put in a kill order (most likely), they coudln't ahve known it would fail. If Bargy is inno, and Nimander is scum, he's gonna hammer. But if Bargy is scum, that raises the question whether he will or not. Remember, it was Nimander himself who pointed out that a townie lynch and an NK would put it to D-Day today, possibly.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 12:58 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 28 May 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 11:53 AM, said:


Kaschan/Sukul didn't vote but were not around at all towards end of day. So these are less likely scum suspects imo.




Unless of course they weren't able to confirm a change of kill choice.

I'm curious of the vote on Nimander, tbh. On the one hand, the lynch perhaps failed because Nimander bugged out, so yeah, that's scummy. But doesn't that mean that Barghast is likely scum? Scum tend to want lynches as much as town to bring the game closer to their VC. If they put in a kill order (most likely), they coudln't ahve known it would fail. If Bargy is inno, and Nimander is scum, he's gonna hammer. But if Bargy is scum, that raises the question whether he will or not. Remember, it was Nimander himself who pointed out that a townie lynch and an NK would put it to D-Day today, possibly.


Or by not voting Barghast, he prolongs Barghast life and we lynch Barghast today (if he assumed NK then we waste a lynch on Barghast, today). My vote is for Nim to explain himself.

I just want to die. This whole game has been a wifom fuck fest.


Barghast = Scum
Nimander = Scum

Barghast = town
Nimander = scum

This is how I was looking at it. Regardless of Barghast's CF Nimander acted scummy with his vote and disappearance.

I don't see Nimander's play as pro town.

I will literally only post replies, that way I am jot spamming the thread.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:09 PM

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:


Barghast = town
Nimander = scum




Nah, I don't get this one. Scum want a lynch, and Nimander can hammer safely without that appearing scummy, so he has nothing to lose on the hammer if Barghast is inno (and as scum he would know, unless he suspects Bargy is symp, and no scum is going to put themselves out there for a symp).

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:10 PM

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 28 May 2014 - 12:51 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 11:53 AM, said:

Kaschan/Sukul didn't vote but were not around at all towards end of day. So these are less likely scum suspects imo.




Unless of course they weren't able to confirm a change of kill choice.

I'm curious of the vote on Nimander, tbh. On the one hand, the lynch perhaps failed because Nimander bugged out, so yeah, that's scummy. But doesn't that mean that Barghast is likely scum? Scum tend to want lynches as much as town to bring the game closer to their VC. If they put in a kill order (most likely), they coudln't ahve known it would fail. If Bargy is inno, and Nimander is scum, he's gonna hammer. But if Bargy is scum, that raises the question whether he will or not. Remember, it was Nimander himself who pointed out that a townie lynch and an NK would put it to D-Day today, possibly.


Or by not voting Barghast, he prolongs Barghast life and we lynch Barghast today (if he assumed NK then we waste a lynch on Barghast, today). My vote is for Nim to explain himself.

I just want to die. This whole game has been a wifom fuck fest.


Barghast = Scum
Nimander = Scum

Barghast = town
Nimander = scum

This is how I was looking at it. Regardless of Barghast's CF Nimander acted scummy with his vote and disappearance.

I don't see Nimander's play as pro town.

I will literally only post replies, that way I am jot spamming the thread.


I think your over looking one thing. Why wasn't Eloth Nked? A healer reveal late in the day then a failed lynch then no nk. Holly shit the coincidences are really starting to pile up.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:11 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 28 May 2014 - 01:09 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:

Barghast = town
Nimander = scum




Nah, I don't get this one. Scum want a lynch, and Nimander can hammer safely without that appearing scummy, so he has nothing to lose on the hammer if Barghast is inno (and as scum he would know, unless he suspects Bargy is symp, and no scum is going to put themselves out there for a symp).


This is absolutely true.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:19 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 28 May 2014 - 01:09 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:


Barghast = town
Nimander = scum




Nah, I don't get this one. Scum want a lynch, and Nimander can hammer safely without that appearing scummy, so he has nothing to lose on the hammer if Barghast is inno (and as scum he would know, unless he suspects Bargy is symp, and no scum is going to put themselves out there for a symp).


Town want a lynch, scum want confusion on thread. If Barghast is town and Nimander hammers, it gives us way more information today.

No, I get it. The only reason Nimander would hold off of Barghast is if he is scum (barghast)

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:28 PM

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 01:19 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 28 May 2014 - 01:09 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:

Barghast = town
Nimander = scum




Nah, I don't get this one. Scum want a lynch, and Nimander can hammer safely without that appearing scummy, so he has nothing to lose on the hammer if Barghast is inno (and as scum he would know, unless he suspects Bargy is symp, and no scum is going to put themselves out there for a symp).


Town want a lynch, scum want confusion on thread. If Barghast is town and Nimander hammers, it gives us way more information today.

No, I get it. The only reason Nimander would hold off of Barghast is if he is scum (barghast)


Yeah that is the only reason that Nimander wouldn't have lynched Barghast. That would make Barghast scum and Nimander the symp. I want to hear from both of them before we start a train.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:32 PM

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

Lynch me.

Fuck yourselves. There is no case. Only "he looks scummy".

I come up town, you say symp. Fuck it. I don't need to play the game. You're all lazy fuckers anyway.


Hold it together. This is exactly what we don't need. Yes, I feel strongly that you could be scum, but I don't know for sure, thus this type of attitude isn't helping. I even understand. I feel the same way to an extent. I've stepped up my game and played my best in my opinion. I've went after most likely scum and tried to be active enough to prevent scum from using us to hide amongst, but it's obviously gotten me nowhere.

It's quite possible that scum are lurking in the back allowing us to rip each other apart. Keep it together for a while longer.

As for Eloth, it's possible he's lying, but if he wasn't then my best guess(wifom of course) is that my failed lynch left scum with a perfect choice for lynch for today, and possibly went for Ampelas in order to make it seem even more likely that I should be lynched. This keeps them from getting attention for another day. Of course, it's all purely speculation, but it's the one scenario that backs up Eloth's claim in my mind.

On another note, I find it quite suspicious that Kaschan pops up shortly after the day ends. If he's town, he probably goes ahead and hammers, whether he felt I was scum or not. If he's scum though, he would know I'm innocent, therefore it's possible he didn't want to be seen as the hammer, especially since he hadn't posted and it would have been a hammer vote out of nowhere.

I'm busy for the next 8 or so hours, and we have plenty of time. There's not much to do except wait to hear from everyone. As for me, I've given all I can up to this point.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:36 PM

View PostKaschan, on 28 May 2014 - 01:28 PM, said:


Yeah that is the only reason that Nimander wouldn't have lynched Barghast. That would make Barghast scum and Nimander the symp. I want to hear from both of them before we start a train.


Not necessarily this either. It's all in the realm of speculation, we just need to decide what is most probable. I mean, Nimander COULD also have just been RealLifed away from the thread, in which case we don't know anything either way.

All I'm saying is, it would appear to increase the odds that Barghast is scum, but not definitely.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:37 PM

View PostBarghast, on 28 May 2014 - 01:32 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

Lynch me.

Fuck yourselves. There is no case. Only "he looks scummy".

I come up town, you say symp. Fuck it. I don't need to play the game. You're all lazy fuckers anyway.


Hold it together. This is exactly what we don't need. Yes, I feel strongly that you could be scum, but I don't know for sure, thus this type of attitude isn't helping. I even understand. I feel the same way to an extent. I've stepped up my game and played my best in my opinion. I've went after most likely scum and tried to be active enough to prevent scum from using us to hide amongst, but it's obviously gotten me nowhere.

It's quite possible that scum are lurking in the back allowing us to rip each other apart. Keep it together for a while longer.

As for Eloth, it's possible he's lying, but if he wasn't then my best guess(wifom of course) is that my failed lynch left scum with a perfect choice for lynch for today, and possibly went for Ampelas in order to make it seem even more likely that I should be lynched. This keeps them from getting attention for another day. Of course, it's all purely speculation, but it's the one scenario that backs up Eloth's claim in my mind.

On another note, I find it quite suspicious that Kaschan pops up shortly after the day ends. If he's town, he probably goes ahead and hammers, whether he felt I was scum or not. If he's scum though, he would know I'm innocent, therefore it's possible he didn't want to be seen as the hammer, especially since he hadn't posted and it would have been a hammer vote out of nowhere.

I'm busy for the next 8 or so hours, and we have plenty of time. There's not much to do except wait to hear from everyone. As for me, I've given all I can up to this point.


I get on the thread at almost the exact same time every day. Check the time stamps there big guy.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:39 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 28 May 2014 - 01:09 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:


Barghast = town
Nimander = scum




Nah, I don't get this one. Scum want a lynch, and Nimander can hammer safely without that appearing scummy, so he has nothing to lose on the hammer if Barghast is inno (and as scum he would know, unless he suspects Bargy is symp, and no scum is going to put themselves out there for a symp).


There's no other way to put this, Ampelas. You're just wrong. I can't speak for Nimander, but simply put - you're wrong. Who's to say that it's not you as scum? Your points against me all stem from me actively trying. I don't know how to defend the fact that I'm searching. I do feel that you're wasting time on me.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:39 PM

so you're saying you weren't here to change your night kill target to eloth?




eta @ kaschan.

was a crosspost

This post has been edited by Pallid: 28 May 2014 - 01:39 PM


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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:46 PM

View PostBarghast, on 28 May 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 28 May 2014 - 01:09 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:


Barghast = town
Nimander = scum




Nah, I don't get this one. Scum want a lynch, and Nimander can hammer safely without that appearing scummy, so he has nothing to lose on the hammer if Barghast is inno (and as scum he would know, unless he suspects Bargy is symp, and no scum is going to put themselves out there for a symp).


There's no other way to put this, Ampelas. You're just wrong. I can't speak for Nimander, but simply put - you're wrong. Who's to say that it's not you as scum? Your points against me all stem from me actively trying. I don't know how to defend the fact that I'm searching. I do feel that you're wasting time on me.



Yeah, maybe. It's nothing personal, obviously. Nimander is my first choice, as is clear, but it all has to be hashed out. Where are you on other people based on events, outside of Denul/Eloth?

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:52 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 28 May 2014 - 10:36 AM, said:

Welp, I'm afraid your time is up.

It is Day 2. 0 minutes remaining

10 players are alive: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kaschan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

6 votes to lynch. 5 votes to go to night.

3 votes Eloth: Atrahal, Nimander Golit, Barghast
5 votes Barghast: Denul, Ampelas, Galayn Lord, Eloth, Pallid


Not voted: Kaschan, Sukul Ankhadu


Night Falls. No one is lynched.


alright, of the train on eloth post reveal, barghast was around, voted eloth.



atrahal, nimander,kaschan and sukul ankhadu were not around (on thread anyway) nimander was about very close to the reveal though, but based on the wonder of wifom I would actuay consider these 4 just because eloth survived (unless of course, he's playing us). Problem is if we are dealing with two killers do I see both being in the super low profile bracket.

well stranger things have happened, I've seen a bit of nimander and a bit of kash today, got nothing in my head on the other two, sukul rings a bell from someone shooting down a low poster hunt day one, will need to scoot back.and check.



probably.cross posting, this was a slow.type

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:53 PM

Lio voted Sukul day one.

edit Change that to Eloth

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:54 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 28 May 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 28 May 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:


Your points against me all stem from me actively trying.





And what does that mean? My speculation on where things stand ATM is purely driven by votes/lack thereof.

My vote for you yesterday became purely logistical (in my mind), because you were the only likely person who COULD be lynched based on who was around and who I felt was likelier to be scum.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:54 PM

I was doing this off thread but voting day one.

Day one

Denul - votes Fener

Liosan - votes Fener

Eloth - votes Pallid

Liosan removes

Ampelas votes liosan

HP votes GL

View PostPath-Shaper, on 22 May 2014 - 03:49 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 22 hours 44 minutes remain.

13 players are alive: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

7 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

1 vote Fener: Denul
1 vote Pallid: Eloth
1 vote Liosan: Ampelas
1 vote Galayn Lord: Hood's Path

Not voted: Atrahal, Barghast, Fener, Galayn Lord, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu



Pallid votes Liosan

Eloth votes Sukul

Denul remove vote

Denul votes Liosan

Ampelas votes Eloth

Denul votes Barghast

Denul votes Liosan

Liosan votes Atrahal

View PostPath-Shaper, on 22 May 2014 - 04:37 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 9 hours 54 minutes remain.

13 players are alive: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

7 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

2 votes Liosan: Pallid, Denul
1 vote Galayn Lord: Hood's Path
1 vote Sukul Ankhadu: Eloth
1 vote Eloth: Ampelas
1 vote Atrahal: Liosan

Not voted: Atrahal, Barghast, Fener, Galayn Lord, Kaschan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu



Barghast votes Liosan

GL votes Fener

Fener votes Liosan

Eloth votes Liosan

View PostPath-Shaper, on 22 May 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 5 hours 54 minutes remain.

13 players are alive: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

7 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

5 votes Liosan: Pallid, Denul, Barghast, Fener, Eloth
1 vote Galayn Lord: Hood's Path
1 vote Eloth: Ampelas
1 vote Atrahal: Liosan
1 vote Fener: Galayn Lord

Not voted: Atrahal, Kaschan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu



Liosan vigs Fener

HP votes Eloth

Barghast removes vote

GL votes Eloth

View PostPath-Shaper, on 23 May 2014 - 05:15 AM, said:

At timeout...


11 players are alive: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

7 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

3 votes Eloth: Ampelas, Hood's Path, Galayn Lord

Not voted: Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Kaschan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu



That is day one.

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