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Mafia 112.5 Betrayal at House on the Hill

#421 User is offline   Eloth 

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 10:58 AM

View PostPallid, on 28 May 2014 - 10:51 AM, said:

well since we're basically on day 2 again, with a healer reveal thrown in.

I want to know why Barghast voted a claimed healer. I want to know why the lurkers wouldn't pull the trigger on a lynch

I want to know who our healer protected, and the reasoning behind the choice




eta forgot the word 'pull'


As for the reasoning of why ampelas instead of someone else for the next night, a few reasons;
1. A bunch of people are low posting nobodies, any NK on them would be baseless and even harmful to scum since a few of us are willing to lynch them ourselves.
2. Denul/GL not going to heal for I hope painfully obvious reasons
3. Nimander/Barghast/Kaschan haven't made an impression on me as being sensible town players.

Was close to healing pallid but Ampelas has been more of a calming/focussing force in the thread to date and we would feel his loss more IMO.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:03 AM

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 10:56 AM, said:

View PostPallid, on 28 May 2014 - 10:51 AM, said:

well since we're basically on day 2 again, with a healer reveal thrown in.

I want to know why Barghast voted a claimed healer. I want to know why the lurkers wouldn't pull the trigger on a lynch

I want to know who our healer protected, and the reasoning behind the choice

eta forgot the word 'pull'


Good points. I am going to step away and be less active, ie, not commenting on everything. I want to, but you guys are seeing it as scummy and clouding the thread, and I am not doing that on purpose.


you've been spastic, but I, at least, have not seen it as scummy.

No kill is wonderful, although with a lynch would have been especially outstanding. There are a bunch of possibilities behind no kill, but I'm not sure if any of them are informative rather than distracting.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:03 AM

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 10:53 AM, said:

Initial reaction to this quick burst of posts.


View PostPath-Shaper, on 28 May 2014 - 10:38 AM, said:

A new day dawns. No one has died.

It is now Day 3. There are 36 hours remaining.

10 players are alive: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kaschan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

6 votes to lynch. 5 votes to go to night.

Not voted: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kaschan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu



View PostPallid, on 28 May 2014 - 10:39 AM, said:

who'd you heal last night eloth?



View PostEloth, on 28 May 2014 - 10:40 AM, said:

**Sighs**

How long until night is resolved? 3 hours?



A ) no one killed Eloth

B ) Pallid new this before PS posted because his response was too quick

C ) Killer's witheld (doubtful)

D ) Eloth is a killer (possible)

E) Barghast did not get lynched.


With regards to A. Wifom. Killer's setting up Eloth for the lynch, killers attempted to kill someone else and Eloth healed them, killer's weren't around post reveal (hence no lynch) too many variables.

B It could be seen either way, 1 minute from PS' post to Pallid's question of Eloth. That's not a lot of time. Benefit of the doubt unless you guys think there's something significant in this.

C why would the killer's witheld. I see no reason for them to, please help me with this one.

D he fake revealed but why would he not choose to kill someone? Unless he claims he healed himself?

E I think Barghast should have been lynched, so why wasn't he?


A. Not going to create much more WIFOM after having my wrists slapped for it, all I will say is I am surprised to be still alive.
B. Don't think it is significant, those of us around in the last few minutes have problably been refreshing like madmen.
C. Killers might have withheld hoping I get lynched for claiming healer yet somehow surviving. WIFOM though.
D. I haven't healed myself yet.
E. Would also like to know.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:05 AM

Eloth can you heal yourself?

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:28 AM

well eloth went ahead and touted my own suspicions on his last post. That's why I was keen to hear a reasoned choice for a heal, I've been sitting with narrowed eyes getting paranoid that eloth is playing us. As it is he says he protected a logical target my only bugaboo is that he's alive but this could just as easily be mafia wifom tactic so I'll.let sleeping dogs lie for now.

Denul, Id rather you didn't ask that question on thread because umcertainity for the killers helps us massively. So eloth, please don't answer.



I want to hear from barghast, but my eyes are swinging towards denul, especially jn light of his last few posts

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:29 AM

View PostAmpelas, on 28 May 2014 - 11:03 AM, said:

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No kill is wonderful, although with a lynch would have been especially outstanding. There are a bunch of possibilities behind no kill, but I'm not sure if any of them are informative rather than distracting.


So we stick to the votes then.

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:

90 minutes left in the day.

10 players are alive: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kaschan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

6 votes to lynch. 5 votes to go to night.

4 votes Eloth: Galayn Lord, Atrahal, Nimander, Pallid
2 vote Barghast: Denul, Ampelas
1 vote Galayn Lord: Eloth
1 vote Denul: Barghast


Not voted: Kaschan, Sukul Ankhadu


The train on me built up pretty easily before my reveal. After that people were still hesitant to remove their votes or change their minds about me.

View PostGalayn Lord, on 28 May 2014 - 09:14 AM, said:

Who did you heal last night, Eloth?

I'm not sure if your reveal changes much at this point. I'd be willing to not see you lynched today I guess.


Barghast votes for me after the reveal saying he doesn't trust me

View PostBarghast, on 28 May 2014 - 09:49 AM, said:

Sounds right.

Well, I wish I could claim an important role to save me, but I can't. I'm just a blank card. Eloth claims healer, and if he's right I'll gladly die in his stead, but I KNOW I'm innocent. I'll have to take my own word over his if based on just his word.

remove vote
Vote Eloth



Pallid removes his vote for me immediately.

View PostPallid, on 28 May 2014 - 09:58 AM, said:

unvote eloth

haven't read beyond reveal, quick catch up


At one point there are 7 people on thread at once but no additional votes are cast until Day times out. This is useful for looking at non-voting patterns at least.

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 10:14 AM, said:

7 people online, 7 anon. Lurking scum.


I don't know what Barghast was aiming for by voting for me after the reveal and a lynch on me was unlikely? As a scum it doesn't make sense to me which is why I find it difficult to accept. As a symp move however...

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:31 AM

posted quickly to make sure eloth didn't answer him.

Denuls two points that bother me already today
1) obviously the self heal question
2) straight out of the gun starts reaching for a post to misconstrue. There's 5 minutes from night resolution to me telling eloth no-one died, not as you claim 'too little time'. This is nit just a personal rebutal because I'm ti guy you're talking about, but its deliberately misleading

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:36 AM

View PostPallid, on 28 May 2014 - 11:28 AM, said:

well eloth went ahead and touted my own suspicions on his last post. That's why I was keen to hear a reasoned choice for a heal, I've been sitting with narrowed eyes getting paranoid that eloth is playing us. As it is he says he protected a logical target my only bugaboo is that he's alive but this could just as easily be mafia wifom tactic so I'll.let sleeping dogs lie for now.

Denul, Id rather you didn't ask that question on thread because umcertainity for the killers helps us massively. So eloth, please don't answer.



I want to hear from barghast, but my eyes are swinging towards denul, especially jn light of his last few posts



You see he said on D that he hasn't healed himself yet. I am not just going to go ahead and fully believe his reveal. Usually healers cannot do that, so I would try to catch him out in a lie.

Second of all, if killers targeted amp why would they? Wifom, maybe but Eloth is not 100% clear at this point. The reveal savd his life, and gives us time to talk about it.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:39 AM

View PostPallid, on 28 May 2014 - 11:31 AM, said:

posted quickly to make sure eloth didn't answer him.

Denuls two points that bother me already today
1) obviously the self heal question
2) straight out of the gun starts reaching for a post to misconstrue. There's 5 minutes from night resolution to me telling eloth no-one died, not as you claim 'too little time'. This is nit just a personal rebutal because I'm ti guy you're talking about, but its deliberately misleading



Pallid, there is 1 minute. 1.

It's right there!

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:41 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 28 May 2014 - 10:38 AM, said:

A new day dawns. No one has died.

It is now Day 3. There are 36 hours remaining.

10 players are alive: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kaschan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

6 votes to lynch. 5 votes to go to night.

Not voted: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kaschan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu



View PostPallid, on 28 May 2014 - 10:39 AM, said:

who'd you heal last night eloth?


It might not even be a minute before these two posts. That's a quick response from you. To assume Eloth lived.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:43 AM

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 11:36 AM, said:

View PostPallid, on 28 May 2014 - 11:28 AM, said:

well eloth went ahead and touted my own suspicions on his last post. That's why I was keen to hear a reasoned choice for a heal, I've been sitting with narrowed eyes getting paranoid that eloth is playing us. As it is he says he protected a logical target my only bugaboo is that he's alive but this could just as easily be mafia wifom tactic so I'll.let sleeping dogs lie for now.

Denul, Id rather you didn't ask that question on thread because umcertainity for the killers helps us massively. So eloth, please don't answer.



I want to hear from barghast, but my eyes are swinging towards denul, especially jn light of his last few posts



You see he said on D that he hasn't healed himself yet. I am not just going to go ahead and fully believe his reveal. Usually healers cannot do that, so I would try to catch him out in a lie.

Second of all, if killers targeted amp why would they? Wifom, maybe but Eloth is not 100% clear at this point. The reveal savd his life, and gives us time to talk about it.


I basically HAVE to use WIFOM to pick my target to heal. What else can I go on? I have to try and look at the game from a scum perspective, "who is helpful to town who is helpful to "us" who could "we" get rid of that would point people the other way or not bring "us" attention?"

I picked Ampelas because of everyone he seems the most together poster so far who seems to be the most vulnerable to being NKed for being too useful. The rest of us are at each others throats and creating a mess for the scum to hide in.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:46 AM

View PostNimander Golit, on 28 May 2014 - 02:17 AM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on 28 May 2014 - 01:10 AM, said:

Ack, sorry, got snagged by various things.

Ok, so what I'm seeing so far is a lot of finger-wagging and nodding over at various people, some of which may have substance, most of which is probably nothing, and some effort to coalesce all the ANGER around one individual - so all in all typical early game...except that we're already down possibly up to three townies.

Since we have little concrete to go on, I thought I'd bring back up the lynch train that was all but assured on day 1 were it not for that little suicide vig snag:

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5 votes Liosan: Pallid, Denul, Barghast, Fener, Eloth


As I said, this was a pretty much dead cert lynch before the suiciding. Thus I am willing to bet everything that the corpse of Liosan owned that at least one of the ones here is scum. Luckily for us, we can already cross Fener off that list thanks to Liosan's, erm, heroics. That leaves us with Pallid, Denul, Barghast, and Eloth.

<snip>


I've been looking at that myself but from the other end. Where did the votes go after he posted the suicide trigger?

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13 players are alive: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

7 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

5 votes Liosan: Pallid, Denul, Barghast, Fener, Eloth
1 vote Galayn Lord: Hood's Path
1 vote Eloth: Ampelas
1 vote Atrahal: Liosan
1 vote Fener: Galayn Lord

Not voted: Atrahal, Kaschan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

Lio's trigger, post 194

Amp: That sounds like an on thread ability trigger....

Hood's Path: Back and reading up. A quick skim of the most recent posts makes me think there might have been a vig of some kind?

Fener: Yeah that certainly doesnt bode well. However Im not real sure why you are focusing on me. I didnt start this train. And I gave you ample time to come back to the game and give some nice drawn out conclusions.

Hood's Path: OK, I've read up. I'm assuming that's a vig from Liosan - Lio, since we're short on time, can you confirm that that's what you're expecting to happen? It sounded like PS is not going to be back before deadline, so we're unlikely to get a resolution before then.

Hood's Path: Now, the question becomes - does this clear Liosan? Personally I find unlikely that there would be a scum vig in the game (that just seems like it would be OP in the end game), so on that basis I don't think it makes sense to complete the Liosan lynch. I guess I need to go away and have a think about who would be a viable alternative.

Ampelas replying to HP's last post: Yeah, I don't think lynching Liosan is a good idea. Even if it's a bluff, it's day one and only buys him a night, which would be dumb.

Kaschan quotes Lio's trigger post: That looks remarkably like a suicide vig. I hesitate to lynch someone until PS gets on to clarify. Which will most like be after time out.

HP posts several quotes from Eloth and then:There's enough for me to see this as a good alternative. Remove Vote. Vote Eloth

HP: Welp, that's me done - won't be back before timeout. Seems like everyone else has left already though...

Barghast quotes Lio a couple of times, comments some, and removes vote.

Galayn Lord does his stupid command line stuff, removes vote, and votes Eloth.

PS resolves the vig.


11 posts between the vig trigger and resolution. Ampelas, Hood's Path, Fener, Kaschan, Barghast, and GL. Scratch Fener and HP.

Now it comes down to what you think is the right play. I'd have continued with the LIo lynch simply because there wasn't enough time to go elsewhere. If it was vig, he dies. If it wasn't a vig, why let him live to simply be lynched the next day? HP, Amp, Kaschan, and Barghast all disagree with me and think that lynching Lio is a bad idea. HP removes and votes Eloth. Barghast simply removes. GL is last with a remove and vote Eloth with no explanation. Kaschan has no vote down and Ampelas has his firmly on Eloth.


I'm willing to bet that one of Ampelas, Kaschan, Barghast, and GL are scum. Ampelas simply thinks that lynching Liosan is a bad idea and then disappears. Not a single word of encouragement to swing and follow his own vote for Eloth. Barghast explains why he removes. Kaschan doesn't say anything beyond he's hesitant to lynch anyone until the Liosan thing plays out. GL's remove and vote comes plenty late enough that he had to know he was wasting his time.

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At timeout...


11 players are alive: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

7 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

3 votes Eloth: Ampelas, Hood's Path, Galayn Lord

Not voted: Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Kaschan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu


Amp's lack of enthusiasm for is own choice bothers me but GL bothers me more. His stupid posts, jumping at the PS coercion, and then the "nah, I'm just fucking with you". But I have enough doubt about that that I'm more willing to go with the safer choice; the person who reset the modkill timer during the freeze:


Vote Sukul Ankhadu



View PostPath-Shaper, on 28 May 2014 - 04:01 AM, said:

It is Day 2. 6 hours 31 minutes remaining.

10 players are alive: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kaschan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

6 votes to lynch. 5 votes to go to night.

2 votes Eloth: Galayn Lord, Atrahal
1 vote Barghast: Denul
1 vote Nimander Golit: Ampelas
1 vote Galayn Lord: Eloth
1 vote Denul: Barghast
1 vote Sukul Ankhadu: Nimander Golit

Not voted: Kaschan, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu



View PostNimander Golit, on 28 May 2014 - 08:13 AM, said:

View PostPallid, on 28 May 2014 - 06:12 AM, said:

beyond his time stall 'stale' arguments fiasco what is the beef on barghast again?
I will get on board if needed for the lynch but honestly see Elotg as a more solid candidate and denul bothers the hell out of me with his flailing.


Denul doesn't like him. As far as I can see that's it.

Without any sort of consensus,, I still think Sukul is the safest choice for a low post killer. Especially with the survival post early Saturday morning. But I'll hold my nose and vote Eloth to get a lynch,

Remove Vote


Vote Eloth



View PostNimander Golit, on 28 May 2014 - 08:56 AM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 28 May 2014 - 08:32 AM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 28 May 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 28 May 2014 - 07:10 AM, said:

Well, based on 2 scum and a possible symp being alive, it's not the end of the world if we dont' get a lynch today. Two wrong lynches and two NK's means it's game over (nod to Nimander :p ). We can get an NK tonight to narrow the field, and still have two more days to get a correct lynch.



View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 07:46 AM, said:

I have green lighted Sukul because fuck that shit. If he is scum he should just accept modkill.


You two just fill my heart with pride, admiration and confidence. "Oh well, we might as well vote night" and "ignore the no posting survivalist type; I'll give him a pass because wtf".


The scum rolls off you in waves.


Glass houses sweetie.



View PostEloth, on 28 May 2014 - 09:09 AM, said:

I will save you all the time waiting for the CF and hope scum are asleep.

Lynching me is a fucking bad idea because I'm the fucking HEALER.

Remove Vote

Vote Denul

GL doesn't seem to be attracting as much attention as I'd like, I think both him and Denul are scum, but as a number of others have already stated they are also uneasy/dislike Denul's play, maybe we can do this in the time left. Doubt it, but even if my reveal buys us a day with no lynch and I am NKed, that staves off WCS for another day.

Edit: Bolded vote




Nimander was very active coming in to the end of day, Eloth reveals 13 minutes after his last post and Nimander disappears.

Ultimately the reason we did not get a lynch on day 2.

Vote Nimander

I am sorry but we need to lynch today, 2 days without one is fucking terrible.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:49 AM

killers may or may not have held off him.for several reasons, I agree he is far from cleared in my mind. As for amp he's generated little to no heat ergo not useful for scum to keep around but this is all wifom. At some stage we have to make a few assumptions. I'm assuming, for the present, that Eloth is telling the truth (although I agree a kill free night immediately after the reve is convenient)

The question remains, given the short time post reveal to time out, do we assume mind games or lack of presence on the kill choice of the killers. In short if the killers saw the reveal would they have changed to eloth or left him alone? It all hangs (for me) on how far I trust in Eloths reveal and the no kill last night, I'm letting it sit as true for the minute and looking at it that the lack of nk is pointless to speculate beyond what I.alresdy have or I'll talk myself in circles all.day long.

I agree we have plenty of time to talk about it but your manner of questioning sits wrong with me

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:53 AM

View PostEloth, on 28 May 2014 - 11:43 AM, said:

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 11:36 AM, said:

View PostPallid, on 28 May 2014 - 11:28 AM, said:

well eloth went ahead and touted my own suspicions on his last post. That's why I was keen to hear a reasoned choice for a heal, I've been sitting with narrowed eyes getting paranoid that eloth is playing us. As it is he says he protected a logical target my only bugaboo is that he's alive but this could just as easily be mafia wifom tactic so I'll.let sleeping dogs lie for now.

Denul, Id rather you didn't ask that question on thread because umcertainity for the killers helps us massively. So eloth, please don't answer.



I want to hear from barghast, but my eyes are swinging towards denul, especially jn light of his last few posts



You see he said on D that he hasn't healed himself yet. I am not just going to go ahead and fully believe his reveal. Usually healers cannot do that, so I would try to catch him out in a lie.

Second of all, if killers targeted amp why would they? Wifom, maybe but Eloth is not 100% clear at this point. The reveal savd his life, and gives us time to talk about it.


I basically HAVE to use WIFOM to pick my target to heal. What else can I go on? I have to try and look at the game from a scum perspective, "who is helpful to town who is helpful to "us" who could "we" get rid of that would point people the other way or not bring "us" attention?"

I picked Ampelas because of everyone he seems the most together poster so far who seems to be the most vulnerable to being NKed for being too useful. The rest of us are at each others throats and creating a mess for the scum to hide in.



Okay, say I am scum.


Would I have chosen Amp as the night kill? Nope. He is the only one who hasn't been thinking I am scum, he is a threat to scum for sure.

Say you are scum, you revealed to save your arse and are now trying to PI Ampelas.

The NK gives too much headache, if we are to stop focusing on the night kill then why did we not lynch again on day 2?

Nimander is one reason because he disappeared after your reveal.

Kaschan/Sukul didn't vote but were not around at all towards end of day. So these are less likely scum suspects imo.

Your "reveal". I am on the fence, it saved your life, at what cost? Scum cannot afford to let you live but you are alive.

Barghast was on the chopping block over me, posible scum and that's why the lynch failed.

I am less likely to want to vote you today Eloth, but the more you stay alive, the more paranoid I'm going to become.

Nimander gets my vote because he was around, and he should have voted.

remove vote

vote Nimander


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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:55 AM

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 11:41 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 28 May 2014 - 10:38 AM, said:

A new day dawns. No one has died.

It is now Day 3. There are 36 hours remaining.

10 players are alive: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kaschan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

6 votes to lynch. 5 votes to go to night.

Not voted: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kaschan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu



View PostPallid, on 28 May 2014 - 10:39 AM, said:

who'd you heal last night eloth?


It might not even be a minute before these two posts. That's a quick response from you. To assume Eloth lived.



assume? I saw the night resolution of no-one has died there is no assume unless we assume PS is telling us lies.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:56 AM

View PostPallid, on 28 May 2014 - 11:49 AM, said:

killers may or may not have held off him.for several reasons, I agree he is far from cleared in my mind. As for amp he's generated little to no heat ergo not useful for scum to keep around but this is all wifom. At some stage we have to make a few assumptions. I'm assuming, for the present, that Eloth is telling the truth (although I agree a kill free night immediately after the reve is convenient)

The question remains, given the short time post reveal to time out, do we assume mind games or lack of presence on the kill choice of the killers. In short if the killers saw the reveal would they have changed to eloth or left him alone? It all hangs (for me) on how far I trust in Eloths reveal and the no kill last night, I'm letting it sit as true for the minute and looking at it that the lack of nk is pointless to speculate beyond what I.alresdy have or I'll talk myself in circles all.day long.

I agree we have plenty of time to talk about it but your manner of questioning sits wrong with me



You see that is why I questioned it, the answer "D" up above looks like a slip. "I haven't healed myself yet".

Let's call a spade a spade, healers never get to heal themselves. So that is why for the question.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:57 AM

View PostPallid, on 28 May 2014 - 11:55 AM, said:

View PostDenul, on 28 May 2014 - 11:41 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 28 May 2014 - 10:38 AM, said:

A new day dawns. No one has died.

It is now Day 3. There are 36 hours remaining.

10 players are alive: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kaschan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu

6 votes to lynch. 5 votes to go to night.

Not voted: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kaschan, Nimander Golit, Pallid, Sukul Ankhadu



View PostPallid, on 28 May 2014 - 10:39 AM, said:

who'd you heal last night eloth?


It might not even be a minute before these two posts. That's a quick response from you. To assume Eloth lived.



assume? I saw the night resolution of no-one has died there is no assume unless we assume PS is telling us lies.



There's no way for me to know, if the times were the same then I'd call bullshit, but there is 1 minute were you could have refreshed.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 12:14 PM

what is it about this forum that my phone doesn't like?

basically - I didn't refresh, I opened the browser, new post by PS, its daytime, who did Eloth heal, it was my go to question because I was (and still am) uneasy about the reveal, I'm just paranoid we're being played, his survival is a wifom storm that there's no point sailing into. Who he healed (and thus saved) could have been a stumbling block so I wanted him to give me an answer bam straight away, without time to think or consult if he was full of shit. It still seems like a convenient but of healing.

And no Denul, its not unheard of or uncommon for healers to be able to self heal, it usually creates the dilemma of, shit will they go after me? What if I self heal.and they hit someone else? Argh!! Etc. Were I in the mood I could paint that move from you as a symp telling his masters what to do, but Id have to read the thread again to try and extrapolate masters from that, and at this moment in time I don't have time. Overall your entire game has read scummy to me.



I'll hopefully get the end of day 2 read.over again at tea time

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 12:20 PM

actually no, fuck it.
vote Denul

he been scummy al game and what tips it for me is his reaching and 'the longer you stay alive the more suspicious I am of you eloth' post, screams signalling instructions or setting up for a future lynch by keeping him alive, it just reeks of scum

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 12:23 PM

This is what I feared was going to happen as the timer ticked down with no one logging on for the lynch. So let me speak plainly.

Kill me and get rid of the WIFOM, or accept my statement that I am a healer who has healed ampelas twice and lets move on. The WIFOM this is generating could well last until I am eventually lynched. Of which 100% of the time thinking about this will have been wasted by not looking for scum.

The only question I want you guys to answer is this;

What is more important to towns success, having self-revealed healer or getting rid the WIFOM it is generating ASAP?

I am still willing to lynch Denul. His actions have consistently struck me as off.

Edit: X-post pallid

This post has been edited by Eloth: 28 May 2014 - 12:23 PM


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