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SPOILERS for Mafia 112: Brighter than Day

#101 User is offline   Anthras 

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 02:42 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 13 May 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

So Khell can talk off thread, can kill at night and absorb powers!!! :laughing:

so good!


ARRRRGGGGGG

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 02:42 PM

View PostInane Babble, on 13 May 2014 - 02:32 PM, said:

Ryll took the fucking SK, thats why he hammered! Haha, Anthras, you were counting on town being town to keep you alive, tough break man. Town might be seriously screwed now. Read: They ARE seriously screwed now.


You beat me to it, his vote of Anthras was too bloody scummy!
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Posted 13 May 2014 - 02:42 PM

View PostAnthras, on 13 May 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 13 May 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

So Khell can talk off thread, can kill at night and absorb powers!!! :laughing:

so good!


ARRRRGGGGGG


I was hoping you'd become the Predator.
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Posted 13 May 2014 - 02:44 PM

Do we know who Khell is targeting?
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Posted 13 May 2014 - 02:47 PM

View PostTattersail_, on 13 May 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 13 May 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 13 May 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

So Khell can talk off thread, can kill at night and absorb powers!!! :laughing:

so good!


ARRRRGGGGGG


I was hoping you'd become the Predator.


I couldn't because I had the shield barrier. That prevented me from dropping while it was in force.

ARRRGGGGG BLEND YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!!!
How many fucking people do I have to hammer in order to get that across.
Hinter - Vengy - DIE. I trusted you you bastard!!!!!!!

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 02:50 PM

View PostVengeance, on 13 May 2014 - 02:47 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 13 May 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 13 May 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:

View PostTattersail_, on 13 May 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

So Khell can talk off thread, can kill at night and absorb powers!!! :laughing:

so good!


ARRRRGGGGGG


I was hoping you'd become the Predator.


I couldn't because I had the shield barrier. That prevented me from dropping while it was in force.

ARRRGGGGG BLEND YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!!!


I bet you wanted it when it became available?

I would have, but I don't think I would have pulled it off.

It will be interesting when Korv is dead, that means scum lose this game. Whether or not town can get a clean sweep.
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Posted 13 May 2014 - 03:05 PM

PMs from Vengethras:


Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

I do.

I would like to relinquish my current contract and register


MC-198 | Impenetrable Infinite Force-field Creation



Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 01:26 PM, said:

If however that is gone then I would like to register in this order

XC-677 | Liquid-Induced Cryokinesis

If that is unavailable then please register

DM-872 | Rupture Internal Organs



Path-Shaper, on 09 May 2014 - 02:02 PM, said:

You register:

MC-198 | Impenetrable Infinite Force-field Creation
Registered
The contractor becomes capable of creating a vertically-oriented force-field which stretches infinitely upwards, to the sides and downwards. The wall can be sustained for some time, but the contract only allots a single use before Fulfillment.
Ability: Once you hold this contract, divide all living players into two groups. Beginning at the next Dawn, players will only be able to perform night actions on and vote for players in their own group. Each group can lynch one player in their group per day, with vote requirements reflecting the number of players in the group. This effect lasts for two days and nights.
Renumeration: Hyperactive Vocalization. You must reply (with quote) to every post made by a player in your group, and you must do so chronologically and before posting any original non-reply posts. You must do so within 24 hours of any given post and each reply must be a genuine reply of at least 10 words.
Relinquish: you can only relinquish this contract through its Fulfillment effect
Fulfillment: once the force-field effect ends, this contract is Fulfilled and automatically relinquished.


Your hyperactivity takes effect immediately.



Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:

Anthras, Demelain, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Korbas, Korvalain, Okaros, Pran Chole, Tholen, Venesara

Here is my list.


Group 1
Anthras, Tholen, Demelain, Korvalain, Hentos llm,


Group 2
Karatallid, Korbas, Venesara, Pran Chole, Okaros


Does the force field stay in effect if I am lynched?



Path-Shaper, on 09 May 2014 - 02:46 PM, said:

Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 02:40 PM, said:

Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 02:36 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 09 May 2014 - 02:30 PM, said:

Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 02:28 PM, said:

Let me split the players into groups.


Please.

Note the groups do not need to be evenly-sized. Also, you should include the dead alts in case of chronokinesis.


Ahh shit. Let me make another list then.


Do I need to include players who have been lynched?


[insert babbling about forced votes coupled with chronokinesis]

Uh, no.



Path-Shaper, on 09 May 2014 - 02:46 PM, said:

Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:

Does the force field stay in effect if I am lynched?


No.

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 13 May 2014 - 03:06 PM

Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 02:59 PM, said:

Anthras, Ay Estos, Demelain, Hanas, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korbas, Korbalain, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Tholen, Venesara



Anthras, Ay Estos, Hanas, Ryllandaras, Kaschan, Pran Chole, Demelain, Okaros

Tholen, Korbas, Korvalain, Karatallid, Venesara, Hentols llm,


These are the groups that I would like.



Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 03:00 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 09 May 2014 - 02:46 PM, said:

Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 02:40 PM, said:

Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 02:36 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 09 May 2014 - 02:30 PM, said:

Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 02:28 PM, said:

Let me split the players into groups.


Please.

Note the groups do not need to be evenly-sized. Also, you should include the dead alts in case of chronokinesis.


Ahh shit. Let me make another list then.


Do I need to include players who have been lynched?


[insert babbling about forced votes coupled with chronokinesis]

Uh, no.


Ok let me edit it.



Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 03:03 PM, said:

Final list

Anthras, Ay Estos, Hanas, Ryllandaras, Demelain, Okaros

Tholen, Korbas, Korvalain, Karatallid, Venesara, Hentols llm, Pran Chole



Path-Shaper, on 09 May 2014 - 03:17 PM, said:

Noted



Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 03:52 PM, said:

Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 03:03 PM, said:

Final list

Anthras, Ay Estos, Hanas, Ryllandaras, Demelain, Okaros

Tholen, Korbas, Korvalain, Karatallid, Venesara, Hentols llm, Pran Chole




Now to explain my reasoning for my list for SH

Obviously I know that I am town and I strongly suspect that Okaros is town. He seems like a reasonable person. So I included him on my group. I also included Demelain because if he isn't lynched then i want to minimize the damage that he can do. I.e. He can only kill two players. I think that Demelain will be lynched today so he won't be a factor for tomorrow. I am going to try to talk Okaros into not lynching me. Although I don't think that he can. Ideally there would be no lynches in my group and 2 lynches in the other. If I had moved Hentols (who I don't really trust) or Venesara (don't trust) into my group also then I would for sure be lynched. If Ryls is brought back then there would be 3 players in my group who are VPI and if the other group has both scum then there would be 3 nks and 2 lynches in the other group. WCS leaving only scum left and 3 town players. That is if Ryllandars is brought back alive tonight. True I am balancing it off of Okaros being town. But at this point I belive that he is.



Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 03:53 PM, said:

Also to the players who think that I should have included myself in the suspect group. Well I have to reply to every single fucking post. I don't have enough time to do that for 6 other players. So fuck you. :laughing:



Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 03:55 PM, said:

Ven has 3 Bps so he should be able to last through the end. As long as he isn't lynched.



Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 05:19 PM, said:

It would be nice if Okaros SHUT the FUCK up!!!!!



Anthras, on 09 May 2014 - 07:56 PM, said:

Tomorrow is my Birthday. I hope that you are going to do a weekend freeze. Could I have the 24 hour limit extended a bit over the weekend.

Thank you for your consideration.



Path-Shaper, on 10 May 2014 - 12:23 AM, said:

It is a freeze for the weekend, so modkill timer wont be counted.



Anthras, on 10 May 2014 - 04:50 PM, said:

Thank you



Anthras, on 10 May 2014 - 04:52 PM, said:

Are you going to post what the groups are so that people can figure out whom to vote for?



Path-Shaper, on 10 May 2014 - 06:12 PM, said:

Yeah. Soon.

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 13 May 2014 - 03:09 PM

Silenceratallid:


Karatallid, on 08 May 2014 - 01:31 PM, said:

Provisional: Use Gravity Amplification on Venesara.



Path-Shaper, on 08 May 2014 - 05:51 PM, said:

noted



Path-Shaper, on 09 May 2014 - 04:58 AM, said:

Any relinquish/register orders today?



Karatallid, on 09 May 2014 - 11:56 AM, said:

Nope, thanks. :laughing:



Karatallid, on 09 May 2014 - 02:34 PM, said:

Provisional: Guard Anthras



Path-Shaper, on 09 May 2014 - 02:44 PM, said:

noted



Path-Shaper, on 09 May 2014 - 02:44 PM, said:

View PostKaratallid, on 09 May 2014 - 01:05 PM, said:

(Though I might add; Spectral Contract Manipulation is going to be one BITCH of a power. I know the series, and between the title of the power, the remuneration, and it's status, I'm willing to bet money that it is ridiculously useful - it's like D'rek has combined the remuneration of Havoc (the MOST devastating Contractor) with the powers of Bai and/or Izanami....and that is like holy fucking shit, in game terms.)


Heh, I thought you might like the hinting on that mysterious contract :p



Karatallid, on 09 May 2014 - 02:47 PM, said:

:p

I think I'm going to be a bit sad if I don't get to see it in play. I really wish this series had more of a following - as much as this game is awesome, I can't help but imagine if there were people who could get into the RP/universe a bit more... *sigh* Then again, anime in general suffers from that, sometimes. XD



Path-Shaper, on 09 May 2014 - 02:55 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 09 May 2014 - 02:47 PM, said:

:p

I think I'm going to be a bit sad if I don't get to see it in play. I really wish this series had more of a following - as much as this game is awesome, I can't help but imagine if there were people who could get into the RP/universe a bit more... *sigh* Then again, anime in general suffers from that, sometimes. XD


It does indeed! And this is two anime-themed mafia games in a row.

That being said, DtB doesn't *really* transfer to being a mafia game all that well, anyways. If I tried to actually story-theme it as a game, it wouldn't work at all... especially because the good and bad guys from the first season end up being the same organization! I could do a faction game from the second season, but "Russians with a few humans and a lot of bugs" is pretty weak compared to "Kid who can create entire people and universes, and is also telepathic". Plus, DtB is really more something that there should be a lot of humans around that the contractors have to hide amongst, not just a giant contractor brawl.

All that being said, DtB does not have the greatest self-exploration of character or its own universe, either... so I don't know!



Karatallid, on 09 May 2014 - 03:09 PM, said:

Yeah, it's better flavour than it is story/balance compatible - I was thinking more of self-imposed RP, but even that is hard to do.

You've definitely gone the right way with just taking the setting. The main stories are way, way too story-based to make for a good mafia "plot". And like...90% of the characters in both seasons can kill you, sometimes via multiple methods or just plain creative application of weird powers.

I think the reason DtB does so well as a story is really that the characters and scenario are presented mostly "as-is, where-is". The wealth of detail behind that is left to the imagination, which is ridiculously bountiful in a fan-fiction sort of way, and that works a lot better than a lot of introspection. It's also why the first season worked really well with the independent stories that eventually tied into the whole arc - bits that came together to make something awesome and coherent, very much like what we got from the characters, imo.

That being said, I'd totally kill for a prequel series on the war around Heaven's Gate/Contractors in general at that time around the world. (I nearly called that war "Heaven's Feel"...and if Fate starts crossing over with Darker than Black, I think my head would explode, LOL! I must be tired. XD)

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 13 May 2014 - 03:09 PM

Path-Shaper, on 09 May 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Yes, you are! Go to bed!



Karatallid, on 12 May 2014 - 09:31 AM, said:

Can I relinquish Gravity Amplification and pick up Possession, please. :laughing:



Path-Shaper, on 12 May 2014 - 02:39 PM, said:

Do you want to relinquish Gravity right now? Or only when it becomes your turn?



Karatallid, on 12 May 2014 - 03:09 PM, said:

Well if I can do it like that, sure! I'm pretty much bottom of the line, right?

Ideally:

Provisional: Relinquish Gravity Amplification on my turn. If available, claim Posession, otherwise, reclaim Gravity Amplification.

If that's possible. *shrug* Otherwise just relinquish GA and try and claim Possession, if not.



Path-Shaper, on 12 May 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

That's absolutely possible. When it becomes your turn, you look at the contract list, see that possession is open, relinquish gravity and claim it. Or you see possession is registered and do nothing.



Path-Shaper, on 12 May 2014 - 03:37 PM, said:

(all automatically via PS, of course)



Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2014 - 12:50 AM, said:

You relinquished Gravity Amplification and registered Possession



Karatallid, on 13 May 2014 - 04:09 AM, said:

Sweet.

Just confirming, the linked post here - can you confirm if I'm right that the force-field ability is not affected by night actions like guard? As I'm pretty sure I was guarding Anthras last night. :p

Also, provisional Possessions tonight:
Korvalain (unless lynched)
Korbas



Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2014 - 04:14 AM, said:

Not something I can confirm/deny. The inner workings of that contract would only be known by its owner.



Karatallid, on 13 May 2014 - 04:20 AM, said:

Alright, thanks anyway. :p

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 03:15 PM

No way, is Karatallid inside Korvalian? Wow, bloody hell. Voting for himself who is scum ha ha ha

That's just great.

I love this game.
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Posted 13 May 2014 - 03:18 PM

Khellandaras:


Ryllandaras, on 07 May 2014 - 07:16 AM, said:

OOPS!



Saboteur strikes again.



Ryllandaras, on 07 May 2014 - 07:21 AM, said:

Well I guess it's possible that Okaros' death had nothing to do with me. I guess. Maybe.


Unfortunately if I believe that then I also can't PI Hanas.



Ryllandaras, on 07 May 2014 - 09:44 AM, said:

If I relinquish my contract, there is presumably no guarantee I would get the next one I asked for. Would quite like to go for Chronokinesis to rectify my probable whoopsie, but I feel I'm unlikely to manage to do so.



Ryllandaras, on 07 May 2014 - 10:35 AM, said:

Screw it, I'd like to

Relinquish current contact and request GE978 Chronokinesis



Path-Shaper, on 07 May 2014 - 01:36 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 07 May 2014 - 10:35 AM, said:

Screw it, I'd like to

Relinquish current contact and request GE978 Chronokinesis


Contract relinquished, request noted



Path-Shaper, on 07 May 2014 - 11:41 PM, said:

You didn't register anything today.



Ryllandaras, on 08 May 2014 - 05:05 PM, said:

Day 3 if still alive I would like to apply for:

MR433
PJ531



Path-Shaper, on 08 May 2014 - 06:09 PM, said:

You are dead! But you could still come back to life through Chronokinesis, so no SH access for you yet!



Ryllandaras, on 08 May 2014 - 06:24 PM, said:

Sigh, had a feeling that would happen.


Now do they love me enough to bring me back?? Or do they feel safer without me?



Ryllandaras, on 08 May 2014 - 06:40 PM, said:

So frustrating! I wanted to be a magician dammit! That role (the RP part, anyway) was for meeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

Also, I really want to point out that Hanas is now dead, it's agonising how slowly it's taking them to realise that (I also realise it's only been like ten minutes since day started, but it goes so much more slowly when you're not playing!)



Ryllandaras, on 08 May 2014 - 07:02 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 08 May 2014 - 07:00 PM, said:

I am stumped - it doesn't say anything in the Chronokinesis contract about switching someone's body with the dead person's. I thought maybe there was something to do with the Spatial Teleportation contract, but that's been open all day during Day 2, so that doesn't make sense.




ARGH!



Path-Shaper, on 08 May 2014 - 07:04 PM, said:

Wow. I literally spelled it out for them in the scene, too...



Ryllandaras, on 08 May 2014 - 07:10 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 08 May 2014 - 07:04 PM, said:

Wow. I literally spelled it out for them in the scene, too...


They're there now, thanks to Korvalain and Korbas. Those two are definitely scum to play so level-headedly :laughing:



Ryllandaras, on 09 May 2014 - 02:18 AM, said:

There must be some way to work out whether Demelain is more likely town or scum - they're not even thinking about it!

(Me, I'm still trying to decipher his damn poetry - love it though :p ).



Ryllandaras, on 09 May 2014 - 02:22 AM, said:

So is Demelain saying that they tried to get the vig contract on day 1, didn't manage, but it was relinquished on day 2 and they received it. Then...they relinquished it themselves day 3 - without having used it - and picked up Magic?



Ryllandaras, on 09 May 2014 - 04:29 AM, said:

You are of course going to wait until day ends, night is resolved, and the new day starts before freezing for the weekend, aren't you? Because I can't wait all weekend to find out if I'm still dead or not. That would be cruel and unusual.

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 13 May 2014 - 03:19 PM

Path-Shaper, on 09 May 2014 - 04:49 AM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 09 May 2014 - 04:29 AM, said:

You are of course going to wait until day ends, night is resolved, and the new day starts before freezing for the weekend, aren't you? Because I can't wait all weekend to find out if I'm still dead or not. That would be cruel and unusual.



That's the plan.



Ryllandaras, on 09 May 2014 - 02:03 PM, said:

Oh my God you have to let me back in the game coach!

Everyone's going every which way, you can almost smell the panic in the air. Still, at least it's preferable to no one posting.

Question: Can scum target me tonight?



Path-Shaper, on 09 May 2014 - 02:08 PM, said:

Of course not! You're just a body on the side of the street being eaten by rats right now, you're no threat to them!



Ryllandaras, on 09 May 2014 - 03:06 PM, said:

Path-Shaper said:

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Of course not! You're just a body on the side of the street being eaten by rats right now, you're no threat to them!



I've never been so happy to be a rotting corpse before. I was just wondering as if Chrono is used on me, then technically I would never have died, and would be around (with Chrono presumably being resolved before kills), and therefore would be a target. But forget I said any of that!



Path-Shaper, on 09 May 2014 - 03:15 PM, said:

I know, and technically if someone went back in time to night 2 and stopped you from dying then people *would* know they can target you night 3, yadayadayada... but this is a very unusual and specific method of time travel and its effects because I said so :laughing:



Ryllandaras, on 09 May 2014 - 08:28 PM, said:

Whether they're right to lynch Demelain or not, they have a very valid point in that Dem hasn't participated enough for someone with that role. If they are town, then that's disappointing and bad play. If they're scum, it's just bad play.



Ryllandaras, on 09 May 2014 - 08:30 PM, said:

And of course they post as soon as I send that PM :p



Ryllandaras, on 09 May 2014 - 08:58 PM, said:

"Unpicked was my power".

So Demelain says he didn't have any contract until Day 2. And so does Hentos. So which one's lying?



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 02:03 AM, said:

My list of requested contracts should I return. I've included all non-expired contracts:

MR433 (if somehow it's back :p )
XY170
UI678
DM872
HW702
OV724
MC198
DP391
XR821
PJ531
XC677
TZ959
GE978
EZ674
KN042
ID362

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 13 May 2014 - 03:20 PM

Path-Shaper, on 10 May 2014 - 03:51 AM, said:

So when you return you want to immediately relinquish your contract and try to register as soon as you get the chance, in that order?



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 03:54 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 10 May 2014 - 03:51 AM, said:

So when you return you want to immediately relinquish your contract and try to register as soon as you get the chance, in that order?


I didn't hold any contract when I died, so yes.



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 03:56 AM, said:

Actually, no, I suppose not. Can you put the list on hold please. I don't want to immediately try and register.



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 03:58 AM, said:

I confess I don't really understand the system.

Say scum for whatever reason drop the kill ability. I see that it's open, and I apply to register for it. But a second scum also applies for it, say two hours later, meaning that I don't get it even though my request came in much earlier, because they have priority?



Path-Shaper, on 10 May 2014 - 04:00 AM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 03:54 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 10 May 2014 - 03:51 AM, said:

So when you return you want to immediately relinquish your contract and try to register as soon as you get the chance, in that order?


I didn't hold any contract when I died, so yes.



ah, right.



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 04:00 AM, said:

But at the same time I'm seeing that contracts are dropped and picked up throughout the first 16 hours of the day. So you don't wait to see if someone of higher priority wants the same contract. So how does that happen then?



Path-Shaper, on 10 May 2014 - 04:01 AM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 04:00 AM, said:

But at the same time I'm seeing that contracts are dropped and picked up throughout the first 16 hours of the day. So you don't wait to see if someone of higher priority wants the same contract. So how does that happen then?


I do one person at a time, giving them their most preferred register that is Open at the time.



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 04:04 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 10 May 2014 - 04:01 AM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 04:00 AM, said:

But at the same time I'm seeing that contracts are dropped and picked up throughout the first 16 hours of the day. So you don't wait to see if someone of higher priority wants the same contract. So how does that happen then?


I do one person at a time, giving them their most preferred register that is Open at the time.



So the balance lies in whether to wait and hope that the one you want becomes Open, or whether to pick up something quick before they all go while you're still waiting for the one you really want.



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 04:05 AM, said:

Ok, so hold on the list, but I'll keep it the same. And then I'll send a PM when I wish to make that list 'active', I guess.

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 13 May 2014 - 03:20 PM

Path-Shaper, on 10 May 2014 - 02:23 PM, said:

You're alive!



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 02:29 PM, said:

Path-Shaper said:

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You're alive!



YEY!



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:

I want to go ahead on my list, but please place rupture internal organs first if it's not already the first one available there!



Path-Shaper, on 10 May 2014 - 02:36 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:

I want to go ahead on my list, but please place rupture internal organs first if it's not already the first one available there!


Are you super double sure? I'll give you a minute just in case :laughing:



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 02:37 PM, said:

Ryllandaras said:

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I want to go ahead on my list, but please place rupture internal organs first if it's not already the first one available there!




No fuck i mean special contract manipulation first!



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 02:37 PM, said:

SPECIAL CONTRACT MANIPULATION!



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 02:38 PM, said:

Or spectral! whatever!



Path-Shaper, on 10 May 2014 - 02:38 PM, said:

Haha, ok, noted.



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:

As for the two extra contracts, can that be any, or just the open ones? If just open ones, I'll take rupture and shapeshifting.



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 02:51 PM, said:

And you're going to wait a while (say, the weekend) before processinig the contracts, right? Otherwise they'll be like, 'well, Ryll came back with no contract, and Spectral was immediately seized, soooo...'



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 02:55 PM, said:

Bah, i can't take shapeshifting, they'll realise by whom it's been taken and just not vote for anyone and I'll be dead



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 02:59 PM, said:

If only open contracts, rupture and hallucination I guess.

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 13 May 2014 - 03:21 PM

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 05:11 PM, said:

You're probably sick of PMs from me, but if I don't manage to take Spectral, then priority is as my list from last night, with Rupture first.



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 05:51 PM, said:

There's only one way I can see the SK having a chance, and that's if they're able to take the Possession contract (which it seems is currently unavailable), and the lover link contract.

- Possess Hentos, and force him to Chrono Tholen.

- Establish a lover link with Tholen, convince him to relinquish the kill contract before they are lynched, and then take it yourself. Then kill either Hentos or whoever you think might have the find contract, and swap it with the lover link.



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 06:03 PM, said:

So if I do get Spectral (which I now have a feeling I won't), I would like to pick up Possession and the Hormonal lover thingy one, please, providing both are available, obviously. If one or both aren't available, then I'll have to rethink.



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 06:06 PM, said:

Ah dammit, that won't work as you have to select possession at night. Such a devilish plan too, sigh...



Path-Shaper, on 10 May 2014 - 06:11 PM, said:

Yes, I'm going to wait a while before doing registrations, though not necessarily the whole weekend.

And yeah, you can only register the other 2 added to spectral manipulation like normal contracts, so only Open ones.



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 06:24 PM, said:

Ohhhh, please let me be the serial killer and let me use possession in the daytime! I'll buy you cookies! Sweet, sweet, chocolate chip cookies!



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 06:34 PM, said:

If for some reason you refuse my reasonable request to completely change the way an ability functions, then, if SK, I guess I'll have to go with the Hormonal lover one, and....hmm, RIO or Hallucination? RIO.



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 06:35 PM, said:

AND I managed to get Gnaw to release Possession and everything, SIIIIIIIIIGH!!!



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 07:13 PM, said:

Lol, this is all so irrelevant as I'm not going to get Spectral anyway.
But, not Hormonal. I'll never convince Hentos on thread to revive Tholen. So Possession I guess instead



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 07:16 PM, said:

OR, on the tenth hand, do i go with just Hormonal? Hmm....



Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 11:21 PM, said:

Speaking hypothetically, if I was to be the SK and had Possession, and I possessed someone, but then my original body died, would I retain my SK abilities in the new bodies I jumped into, or would I be able to do nothing but jump back and forth?



Path-Shaper, on 12 May 2014 - 04:19 AM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 11:21 PM, said:

Speaking hypothetically, if I was to be the SK and had Possession, and I possessed someone, but then my original body died, would I retain my SK abilities in the new bodies I jumped into, or would I be able to do nothing but jump back and forth?


You need to have possession to really understand how it works. But you would still be an independent SK and need to be killed.



Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2014 - 12:48 AM, said:

You've registered Spectral Contract Manipulation + Hormonal Attraction + Rupture Internal Organs

You are now a Serial Killer.

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 13 May 2014 - 03:21 PM

Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 12:49 AM, said:

OH SHIT.


Did I confirm those other two contracts? What am I supposed to do with them?! :laughing: Aaargh.



Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2014 - 12:51 AM, said:

You didn't have any big bold "I want to do precisely this" post... you had thirty different random idea posts. I went with the most recent two to add to SCM.



Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 12:52 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2014 - 12:51 AM, said:

You didn't have any big bold "I want to do precisely this" post... you had thirty different random idea posts. I went with the most recent two to add to SCM.




Could I get Possession instead of Hormonal pretty please?



Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2014 - 12:54 AM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 12:52 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2014 - 12:51 AM, said:

You didn't have any big bold "I want to do precisely this" post... you had thirty different random idea posts. I went with the most recent two to add to SCM.




Could I get Possession instead of Hormonal pretty please?


Too late, registration is over. PMs have already been sent to all players.



Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 12:56 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2014 - 12:54 AM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 12:52 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2014 - 12:51 AM, said:

You didn't have any big bold "I want to do precisely this" post... you had thirty different random idea posts. I went with the most recent two to add to SCM.




Could I get Possession instead of Hormonal pretty please?


Too late, registration is over. PMs have already been sent to all players.




I didn't think I would get SK so I stopped bothering to think about it :p


I feel I may have bitten off slightly more than I can chew. Especially with this division having come down.



Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 01:01 AM, said:

Can I form lover connections with anyone, or just Okaros and Anthras?

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 13 May 2014 - 03:24 PM

Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2014 - 01:06 AM, said:

DM-872 | Rupture Internal Organs
Registered
The contractor can cause small wounds in the internal organs of any individual at will, so long as they are in physical contact. There are no immediate outwardly visible indications of the inflicted damage, but the victim will soon begin feeling unwell. Eventually, they will begin gushing blood from their orifices, followed by a painful death.
Ability: Each night, you may target one other player. They will die on the following night. If they are healed on either night, they will not die. The target will be told at the end of the first night that they feel unwell and may die soon.
Renumeration: Leaving Damning Evidence Behind. Each time you use your night action (successfully or not) you must vote for your target the following day, if they are alive. It does not have to be your first vote, and you can change your vote off of them as well.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: none




XR-821 | Hormonal Attraction Amplification
Registered
The contractor becomes an irresistable sex god/goddess.
Ability: Each night you may open one and close one lover conversation with any other player(s). You may have up to three lover conversations at once from this ability. Players whom you are lovers with cannot perform any night actions on you. Players do not have to respond, but they cannot end the lover bond.
Renumeration: Leprosy. This is a one-time renumeration which is only paid once the contract is Relinquished or Fulfilled. Your irresistable charm is removed and you become a decrepit leper. You may no longer have any lover bonds with any player for the rest of the game, for any reason.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: Once a player who holds this contract has been lovers at some point with every other living player remaining in the game, this contract becomes Fulfilled.




VM-460 | Spectral Contract Manipulation
Registered
A mysterious contract, the mechanisms of which are unfathomable.
Ability:
--Tyranny: The contractor immediately becomes capable of holding two more contracts in addition to this one.
--Consume: Each night, you may choose another player - if they die you learn what contract they hold (if any) and you may substitute it for one of yours (but not this one).
Renumeration: Drinking the Blood of Children. You become an independent player, with the victory conditions of eliminating all other players. You will CF and be found as "[S]He who Drinks the Blood of Children". You must successfully target someone with Consume at least once every two nights, or else you will die instead (you do not need to exchange contracts, just succeed in choosing a player that dies).
Relinquish: This contract cannot be relinquished by any means, including by actions of other players.
Fulfillment: none



Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 01:06 AM, said:

Night actions only for your own group, right right.


Prov lover convo with Anthras.



Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2014 - 01:07 AM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 01:01 AM, said:

Can I form lover connections with anyone, or just Okaros and Anthras?


Only players in your group, until the forcefield is down. Were you expecting anything else?



Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 01:14 AM, said:

Just to be completely clear, Spectral comes with no killing abilities whatsover, right? Consume is just a 'pick a person' ability. So currently RIO is my only lethal ability?


Anthras has the dividey thing, which is of absolutely no use to me. Not sure what Okaros has - if anything. Someone picked up Shapeshifting, how weird.

I target Okaros with RIO, he bleats the next day. I don't target anyone, and two nights go by without anyone dying. And so I die. This is unpossible.



Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 01:28 AM, said:

And with Consume I can currently only target people in my group too?



Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2014 - 02:00 AM, said:

Correct, Consume is like any other NA - it can only be used on people in your group. And yes, Consume doesn't actually hurt anyone, it is just a matter of picking someone who you hope will die. Of course, with RIO you can hopefully rig that choice.



Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 02:02 AM, said:

This is not just unpossible, this is literally impossible.

I do kinda wish you would have sent me a PM asking if I can confirm which contracts I would want. With the divide coming down the way it has, I wouldn't have gone with these two. Anyways. Make do with what you have. Which is not a lot.

Let's look at possibilities:

Scenario 1: RIO Okaros.

He says he's dying the next day. BCS by some miracle Okaros and Anthras don't lynch me - say I manage to convince Anthras that it wasn't me using our lover connection.

Okaros dies. I get his whatever contract. But for what? If I exchange Hormonal and it suddenly goes off the market, Anthras will know I lied and I'm the SK. If I exchange it for RIO, I lose my killing power. So maybe I don't exchange it and Okaros takes it to his grave.

Divide comes down. Other players know only I can be the SK because Anthras couldn't have relinquished his contract to pick up Spectral. I am lynched.


Scenario 2: RIO Anthras.

Anthras says he's dying the next day. BCS I convince him that it's Okaros. We lynch Okaros, he turns up town. Anthras dies, his contract becomes available and I...what? Take his power? And then do what? Put myself in a group of one? And then I die after two days anyway because I haven't killed anyone. BCS the other scum does manage to kill someone and I somehow correctly guess who, keeping me alive until the shield drops again.

And then what? Get lynched.

Impossible.



Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 02:05 AM, said:

Or I put myself in a group of two and RIO the other person. And then hope to hell that the contract they have is something I can use. Hmm.



Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 02:07 AM, said:

As I'm now scum do I get first dibs on contracts?



Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 02:50 AM, said:

Scenario 3: Don't RIO either Okaros or Anthras.

Next day drop Hormonal for Anti-Tank. Vig Anthras. Has to be Anthras as vigging Okaros will only leave me as the possibility for SK. Then:

3a: Take Splitter ability (Question for PS: would that go in my 'empty' slot, as vig is completely used up, or would that have to replace RIO?). Put myself and one other, RIO them, take their ability (probably get lynched as soon as the divide comes down).

3b: Don't take Splitter. Pick up another contract to go in the empty slot with vig expired. But what?



Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 02:52 AM, said:

Scenario 4: Get Anthras lynched so the barrier drops a day early.

Swap Hormonal for Anti-Tank. Vig someone in the larger pool of players.


I'm not sure this one's even worth considering because I highly doubt I can get Blend to agree to it.

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 13 May 2014 - 03:25 PM

Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2014 - 04:18 AM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 02:02 AM, said:

This is not just unpossible, this is literally impossible.

I do kinda wish you would have sent me a PM asking if I can confirm which contracts I would want. With the divide coming down the way it has, I wouldn't have gone with these two. Anyways. Make do with what you have. Which is not a lot.


Sorry, but I don't have time to babywalk everyone through how to play the game. It was your choice to not make a definitive provisional when you knew that registrations had to occur at the 18h mark. The other choice is I could've decided none of your submissions other than the SCM one were definitive enough and not given you anything. It's not really any different than if you were a guard in a normal game, vaguely discussed guarding a couple different people and then when night rolls around get upset that I picked one. If you want reliable results, you say "I've decided - Tonight Guard Korlat". It's not like this is night 1, you've had time to figure this stuff out.



Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2014 - 04:20 AM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 02:02 AM, said:

Scenario 2: RIO Anthras.

Anthras says he's dying the next day. BCS I convince him that it's Okaros. We lynch Okaros, he turns up town. Anthras dies, his contract becomes available and I...what? Take his power? And then do what? Put myself in a group of one? And then I die after two days anyway because I haven't killed anyone. BCS the other scum does manage to kill someone and I somehow correctly guess who, keeping me alive until the shield drops again.

And then what? Get lynched.

Impossible.


re underlined - why wouldn't you pick Anthras on the night he dies from your RIO??!!

God, if you can't even see that I really shouldn't be helping you... :laughing:



Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2014 - 04:20 AM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 02:07 AM, said:

As I'm now scum do I get first dibs on contracts?


You're not scum, so no.



Path-Shaper, on 13 May 2014 - 04:21 AM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 13 May 2014 - 02:50 AM, said:

Scenario 3: Don't RIO either Okaros or Anthras.

Next day drop Hormonal for Anti-Tank. Vig Anthras. Has to be Anthras as vigging Okaros will only leave me as the possibility for SK. Then:

3a: Take Splitter ability (Question for PS: would that go in my 'empty' slot, as vig is completely used up, or would that have to replace RIO?). Put myself and one other, RIO them, take their ability (probably get lynched as soon as the divide comes down).

3b: Don't take Splitter. Pick up another contract to go in the empty slot with vig expired. But what?


Whether or not Anti-Tank Rifle is "used up" or not, it is still a contract that you hold until you relinquish it or swap it via Consume.

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 13 May 2014 - 03:31 PM

Blendkaros:



Path-Shaper, on 06 May 2014 - 01:47 PM, said:

Okaros, on 06 May 2014 - 12:46 PM, said:

Move Rupture Internal Organs to the top of my order of preference please. If I can pick that up I can try to keep it out of scum hands.


Noted.



Path-Shaper, on 06 May 2014 - 01:47 PM, said:

You have registered Hallucination.



Okaros, on 06 May 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

Cool beans.

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OV-724 | Hallucination
The contractor can create hallucinations at short range. While highly effective at first, most victims quickly realize the deceit and remain attentive to their surroundings. The best use, then, is to use hallucinations of sudden attacks to trick other contractors into revealing their abilities.
Ability: Each night you can learn the contract of another player.
Renumeration: Revealing Secrets. You must divulge on-thread (clearly) the result of any successful night action.
Relinquish: Before you can relinquish this contract, you must reveal on-thread that you possess it.
Fulfillment: none




For now, my provisional is to use my Find ability on Korvalain.



Okaros, on 06 May 2014 - 02:00 PM, said:

Arg, once again I'm likely going to be a lightning rod for scum. The moment I reveal that I'm holding Hallucination, they're gonna come after me. Owell, another game where I die early, I guess!



Okaros, on 06 May 2014 - 03:39 PM, said:

Does whoever has the Invisibility contract have to ignore the 10 first posts of Day 1? Like, can I try to figure out who has it based on that (I know it's not likely to work). If they answer is yes, can I say so on thread?

Thanks!



Okaros, on 06 May 2014 - 04:21 PM, said:

Okaros, on 06 May 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

For now, my provisional is to use my Find ability on Korvalain.


Change that to Venesara please.



Path-Shaper, on 06 May 2014 - 05:14 PM, said:

Okaros, on 06 May 2014 - 03:39 PM, said:

Does whoever has the Invisibility contract have to ignore the 10 first posts of Day 1? Like, can I try to figure out who has it based on that (I know it's not likely to work). If they answer is yes, can I say so on thread?

Thanks!


Is that not exactly what the contract itself says?



Okaros, on 06 May 2014 - 05:23 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 06 May 2014 - 05:14 PM, said:

Okaros, on 06 May 2014 - 03:39 PM, said:

Does whoever has the Invisibility contract have to ignore the 10 first posts of Day 1? Like, can I try to figure out who has it based on that (I know it's not likely to work). If they answer is yes, can I say so on thread?

Thanks!


Is that not exactly what the contract itself says?


That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure if it would be the same for Day 1, specially given that whoever took the contract may not have known they had it right away, so may have already responded to the first 10 posts without knowing for sure whether or not they could.

Anyway, thanks for the answer!



Path-Shaper, on 06 May 2014 - 06:02 PM, said:

Oh I see what you mean now, specifically for Day 1. No, you don't need to ignore posts from the same day you registered it, just the day after each night you have it (each night you turn invisible. This causes you to vomit profusely and frequently all morning, and you are too busy vomiting to pay attention to the first 10 things anyone says in the morning).

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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