[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 03:20 PM, said:

Well, it's the weekend and it's currently about 30 degrees here (Celsius) so I'm going to step away from the computer for a tiny bit/the weekend.

Go out and enjoy the sunshine already. That sounds like lovely weather.

[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 03:21 PM, said:

Pran Chole, on 10 May 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 10 May 2014 - 02:33 PM, said:

8 players are alive: Anthras, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Korbas, Korvalain, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras

Well, here's where I stand at the moment. Strikethrough are the people I believe are innocent. Underlined are more likely inno. In red are my top suspects, with Hentos-case-making-Korv as my #1

I would make Korbas probable townie too. His agony last night over whether to vote and effort he put in dragging pieces together seemed sincere.

If Korbas isn't a townie he should be an example to all scum of how to play.

[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 03:21 PM, said:

And now I am off.

Do not forget to put sunscreen on. It sounds like it is hot out.

[Hentos Ilm]

C-C-C-C-ombo-breaker.....


I pity you for the amount of meaningful replies you've got to make, Anthras.

[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 05:04 PM, said:

Korbas, on 10 May 2014 - 04:49 PM, said:

Assume 3 scum: Tholen, Demelain, and PlayerX.

The only way Tholen can have died would be via AntiTank.


If PlayerX has AntiTank, then:

• Most important: PlayerX can perform NO ACTION night 4. Regardless of which contract they hold.
• They targeted Tholen purposely for reason Y. or
• They targeted somebody else and ST holder caused a switch in targets to Tholen.
  • ST is in town hands
  • ST holder knows who the original target was.

If PlayerX does not have AntiTank, then:

• Tholen was killed by a townie.
• Townie may or may not have been targeting Tholen; ST could still be a factor.
• Most important for this scenario: What contract did PlayerX have? And why would they have it?

Yes, this is some good thinking. I think you may be right about ST intervening.


The vig, as far as we know, has not been open since day 1, right? That's as far as I remember.

So if Demelain had, say, Possession, he could have dropped that in favour of Magic, while another scum continued to retain the vig. But then last night, ST diverted the vig shot from....I'm going to guess either Okaros or Hentos as they were most townie, to Tholen.

So scum might still have the vig. But they can do no action today. Does that include voting?


@ Pran Chole - look back at your PM conversation with the person who possessed you - compare it to Demelain before he became the Magician, any chance they could have been the same person?

No they can vote but they can't do anything else. There is not any contract that prevents voting. In one you have to vote for one person but that is it.

[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 05:07 PM, said:

No, actually, what I said above isn't right. The vig contract HAD to be relinquished at some stage, because it's single-use and only refills once it's relinquished. However, it could have been picked up again by the same person.

Yes scum has to drop it and then pick it back up.

[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 05:07 PM, said:

Korbas, on 10 May 2014 - 05:05 PM, said:

Random Thoughts:

There were 4 anons on just shortly before I hammered. Myself, Pran Chole made a post pre and post lynch, presumably PS. So who was the fourth?

What if there were only 2 scum? Then town has won and the reason the game hasn't been called is because D'rek is waiting to see if somebody goes rogue with Spectral.

Holder of Chrono should definitely continue holding it forever and ever.

There is zero reason for the third scum NOT to take Spectral on dawn day 5.

I was on and watching at that time.

That is why projecting who is lurking is a waste of time.

[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 05:14 PM, said:

Korbas, on 10 May 2014 - 05:11 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 05:04 PM, said:

@ Pran Chole - look back at your PM conversation with the person who possessed you - compare it to Demelain before he became the Magician, any chance they could have been the same person?

There's a reason I'm only listening to Okaros. You maybe. You CFed innocent but you are who you are. Demelain did such an excellent job RPing that I doubt anyone could have connected him from prose to his poetry. And you're assuming Pran Chole has been telling the truth.

That's why I said look back at Demelain's posting before he became the Magician, when he was posting normally, and compare that to the possession PMs. At the moment I have no reason not to believe Pran - no one has counter-claimed his story about what contract he dropped.

There has not been any counter claiming in this game so far.

[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 05:15 PM, said:

As for the rhyming from Demelain you quoted above, it's interesting he mentions both Korvalain and Tholen. Distancing from both? Is that too obvious?

No not really. I don't think that he had a plan when he picked up magician.

[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 05:16 PM, said:

Anyways, back to the sunshine!

Yes please go out and explore, but do not forget the sun screen.

[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 05:41 PM, said:

Damn you, I came back in just to post that the person who has ST can drop it and tell us so we'll know whether town or scum have the vig - only to see I'm wasting my time

Either way, I don't think there can be a kill tonight, right? Vig inactive and RIO if picked up by scum takes two nights. So we have breathing space.

Yes we have a little bit of breathing space. At least one day plus we have the shield.

[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 06:02 PM, said:

Another option: Who has Possession now? Was anyone possessed yesterday? If not, then it's probably in townie hands and it makes it more likely (I think) that the vig is with scum. If a vpi townie has possession they could drop it and tell us...not sure which is safer to drop really, ST, or Possession. I guess in both cases the likelihood is high that it could be picked right back up by townies though.

Yes was anyone possessed yesterday? I don't see an senario where scum don't pick up the vig. Otherwise they can't win.

[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 06:11 PM, said:

FUCK! I've just realised Brujah escaped a lynch AGAIN!!!



Right, that's it. No more. Hentos, chrono Tholen so we can lynch him

Yeah lets not do that. As much as it might be nice to lynch Brujah. Town has just jumped out to a nice position.

[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 11:17 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 10 May 2014 - 10:40 PM, said:

Also, I would love a guard on the person holding Chronokinesis, so that person being possessed wouldn't be able to bring back dead scum this night.

I'm not completely certain, but I don't think there's actually any need tonight for that. Possession would only start working the next day, right, meaning they would miss the window for bringing Tholen back.

Korbas, on 10 May 2014 - 11:03 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 10 May 2014 - 10:40 PM, said:

Also, I would love a guard on the person holding Chronokinesis, so that person being possessed wouldn't be able to bring back dead scum this night.

There are two guards. One of them freezes for 3 nights. So that probably wouldn't be a good choice to use on the Chronokinesis player. Just in case we get the lynch wrong.

Chrono doesn't bring lynchees back.

Even if scum could somehow bring Brujah back we would lynch him and that would be that.

[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 11:23 PM, said:

Also, you SHOULD bring Tholen back, so we can lynch him


Edit: Wrong smiley.

If we go several days with out lynching scum we might need to do that in order to win.

[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 11:25 PM, said:

Korbas, on 10 May 2014 - 11:22 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 11:17 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 10 May 2014 - 10:40 PM, said:

Also, I would love a guard on the person holding Chronokinesis, so that person being possessed wouldn't be able to bring back dead scum this night.

I'm not completely certain, but I don't think there's actually any need tonight for that. Possession would only start working the next day, right, meaning they would miss the window for bringing Tholen back.

Korbas, on 10 May 2014 - 11:03 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 10 May 2014 - 10:40 PM, said:

Also, I would love a guard on the person holding Chronokinesis, so that person being possessed wouldn't be able to bring back dead scum this night.

There are two guards. One of them freezes for 3 nights. So that probably wouldn't be a good choice to use on the Chronokinesis player. Just in case we get the lynch wrong.

Chrono doesn't bring lynchees back.

Yes. But we don't want the Chronokinesis player frozen for 3 days do we?

No we don't. Although there is that Pyro contract which can reverse the effects. Anyway, I think the point is moot, I'd rather have a guard on the people we think could be scum tonight, as the Chrono wielder cannot be possessed in time to bring Tholen back.

Wait didn't Okaros come back 2 days later. I would not be so sure of that.

[Anthras]

Ryllandaras, on 12 May 2014 - 01:28 PM, said:

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 01:20 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 12 May 2014 - 05:22 AM, said:

It is Day 4. The timer is unfrozen. 36 hours remaining. 18 hours of registration remaining.

A sudden force field has appeared, bisecting the city in two. On one side are Anthras, Ryllandaras and Okaros. On another side are Korbas, Korvalain, Karatallid, Hentos Ilm and Pran Chole.

You may only vote for players on your side. You may only use NAs on players on your side. This force field will last throughout all of day 4, night 4, day 5 and night 5. If the contractor who created the force field dies during that time, the field ceases to exist immediately.



8 players are alive:
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Anthras, Okaros, Ryllandaras

2 votes to lynch. 2 votes to go to night.

No one has voted.
---

---
Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Korbas, Korvalain, Pran Chole

3 votes to lynch. 3 votes to go to night.

1 vote for Karatallid (Korbas).
---

Hmmmm.... I know for certain that Ryllandaras is town, but I'm on the fence about Anthras. I'm leaning more towards town for him, but there's been enough doubt this whole game for me to be willing to vote him out. What do you think Ryll?

I think Anthras might be the guy who split us, and put himself in with the two CIs. Would scum put themselves together with two known townies, knowing that they would likely gang up on the unknown IF there was a lynch?

However, we must remember that our group was probably going to contain one more - Pran Chole it seems - before Teleportation jinxed that. The camp on Pran Chole is divided I think, but right now we have no real reason to doubt his possession story, or the ST. So he would have been something coming close to PI also in our group.

That is a good point. I see why you would think that Pran Chole was going to be in the first group.

[Anthras]

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 01:30 PM, said:

Okay, I was all like, why the hell is Anthra replying to dead Demelain's posts, then I realized that he must have the Impenetrable Infinite Forece-field Creation contract, which means that killing him off would end the Force-field effect. That makes me lean pretty much all the way over towards town, given he can't do anything to me without Ryll's vote, and though I sometimes have my worries about him, I'm pretty sure Ryll will be smart enough to know I'm not scum.

Looks like it's going to be a long couple of days for the three of us given none of us can really do anything until we're back with the group.

The thing that worries me is that IF Anthras is scum, then this is a good way for him to survive a few more days while picking off a few people in the other group.

That should be a really small worry. As the other side would have more town players to lynch me when the shields come down. I don't want any lynches in our group. I am not going to vote for anyone.

[Okaros]

Anthras, on 12 May 2014 - 01:56 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 11:25 PM, said:

Korbas, on 10 May 2014 - 11:22 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 10 May 2014 - 11:17 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 10 May 2014 - 10:40 PM, said:

Also, I would love a guard on the person holding Chronokinesis, so that person being possessed wouldn't be able to bring back dead scum this night.

I'm not completely certain, but I don't think there's actually any need tonight for that. Possession would only start working the next day, right, meaning they would miss the window for bringing Tholen back.

Korbas, on 10 May 2014 - 11:03 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 10 May 2014 - 10:40 PM, said:

Also, I would love a guard on the person holding Chronokinesis, so that person being possessed wouldn't be able to bring back dead scum this night.

There are two guards. One of them freezes for 3 nights. So that probably wouldn't be a good choice to use on the Chronokinesis player. Just in case we get the lynch wrong.

Chrono doesn't bring lynchees back.

Yes. But we don't want the Chronokinesis player frozen for 3 days do we?

No we don't. Although there is that Pyro contract which can reverse the effects. Anyway, I think the point is moot, I'd rather have a guard on the people we think could be scum tonight, as the Chrono wielder cannot be possessed in time to bring Tholen back.

Wait didn't Okaros come back 2 days later. I would not be so sure of that.

I died Night 1, the holder of Chronokinesis used it on me during Night 2, I came back to life for Day 3.

So technically, Tholen could still be brought back to life tonight. I doubt it's going to happen, though. So far, the holder of the contract has only brought back confirmed townies, so I think it's a pretty safe bet that they are acting in town's interest.

[Anthras]

Anthras, on 12 May 2014 - 01:58 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 12 May 2014 - 01:28 PM, said:

Okaros, on 12 May 2014 - 01:20 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 12 May 2014 - 05:22 AM, said:

It is Day 4. The timer is unfrozen. 36 hours remaining. 18 hours of registration remaining.

A sudden force field has appeared, bisecting the city in two. On one side are Anthras, Ryllandaras and Okaros. On another side are Korbas, Korvalain, Karatallid, Hentos Ilm and Pran Chole.

You may only vote for players on your side. You may only use NAs on players on your side. This force field will last throughout all of day 4, night 4, day 5 and night 5. If the contractor who created the force field dies during that time, the field ceases to exist immediately.



8 players are alive:
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Anthras, Okaros, Ryllandaras

2 votes to lynch. 2 votes to go to night.

No one has voted.
---

---
Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Korbas, Korvalain, Pran Chole

3 votes to lynch. 3 votes to go to night.

1 vote for Karatallid (Korbas).
---

Hmmmm.... I know for certain that Ryllandaras is town, but I'm on the fence about Anthras. I'm leaning more towards town for him, but there's been enough doubt this whole game for me to be willing to vote him out. What do you think Ryll?

I think Anthras might be the guy who split us, and put himself in with the two CIs. Would scum put themselves together with two known townies, knowing that they would likely gang up on the unknown IF there was a lynch?

However, we must remember that our group was probably going to contain one more - Pran Chole it seems - before Teleportation jinxed that. The camp on Pran Chole is divided I think, but right now we have no real reason to doubt his possession story, or the ST. So he would have been something coming close to PI also in our group.

That is a good point. I see why you would think that Pran Chole was going to be in the first group.

That should read I don't see why you should think that Pran Chole was going to be in the first group. My mind is starting to go after all of the posts. I have to do some actual work now.