[Korbas]

What the fuck is Hentos doing leading the conversation?

I just logged in. How much time do we have? And why is karatallid the lynch candidate?

[Kaschan]

work is busy.




We have about an hour left, no?

[Venesara]

Korbas, on 08 May 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

What the fuck is Hentos doing leading the conversation?

I just logged in. How much time do we have? And why is karatallid the lynch candidate?

Last PS post there were 4 votes but only 3 were registered.

[Venesara]

Path-Shaper, on 08 May 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 3 hours and 38 minutes remain.

12 players are alive: Anthras, Demelain, Hanas, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korbas, Korvalain, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Tholen, Venesara

7 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.

3 votes for Hentos Ilm (Korbas, Venesara, Demelain, Korvalain)

In fact with Kara's vote that makes 5 votes on Hentos, unless one is a dud.

[Ryllandaras]

I can't see any vote block ability/penalty, so I'm tempted to think it was just a PS oversight.

[Anthras]

Hentos Ilm, on 08 May 2014 - 02:01 PM, said:

Venesara, on 08 May 2014 - 01:49 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 08 May 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:

Venesara, on 08 May 2014 - 12:23 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 08 May 2014 - 11:24 AM, said:

If I do go down, my alignment, strategy and intentions will be very clearly town.
If I don't go down, let's not talk about that. in the mean-time, I'd like to call attention to the following, which partly set up my current lynch.

Venesara, on 07 May 2014 - 11:03 AM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 05 May 2014 - 06:12 PM, said:

Second, and out again - this is purely a courtesy visit. I will post more in 12-14 hours when at work.

So he had time to post at work but all he gave us was this...

Hentos Ilm, on 06 May 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

Well, disappointing amount of replies, but that makes it at the very least easy to catch up.

Regarding the taking of contracts: since there are priority lists, it seems to me as if the confirmed contracts were the top of the priority-lists. If someone at a low priority requests a contract and higher prio players haven't checked in/submitted yet, those would be on hold, I imagine.

Let's see. That first post was the second player post of the game. The second quoted post was.... drumroll.... post # 37. Page 1. When Ven themselves was voting for a player for a misspelling of their name, several of the players hadn't checked in and we were firmly in no-content-land from just about everyone.

For those who don't bother checking back, it might seem a decent 'non-content' summary. Once you do check back, see that post in the context, it becomes a cheap shot and a bit of a silly case. To provide full context, I might add that, even if in the hour after that post, conversation catches up a bit.

That is not why you are being voted for. So what are you trying to say here?

Who would you vote for?

It might not be what I am voted for, (what the fuck am I voted for apart from no content, which is what your case is?) it is still a related set up due to bad reasoning.


I'd vote you, first and foremost. People fall over themselves to PI you on day 2 after a day 1 that was lynchless, and there have been multiple weird suggestions from you as well as the odd... let's call it... wording surrounding the contract. We are two days into the game and yet you start saying already that half the town doesn't react in its interests. Who are you to judge? In the same vein, your 'suggestion' that people shouldn't pick up the new contracts. Why? Half your posts are judgments, the others are recommendations without explanations.
Your voting pattern is odd, as well: you're jumping a lot. I also don't like how Demelain is giving you blowjobs every time he reacts to you.

So yeah, I'd search there.

Otherwise, Korbas' case is shaky (and probably rightly ignored) but it's original. He does a lot to deflate it, yet Tholen wants to bring it up again. That tickles my fancy as well.

I think it is the FACT that I relinquished a contract today mate for the sole purpose of letting you guys know which one I had. Someone else dropped one too but neither was a killing contract. So there are two people out there with a killing contract and one of them isn't me, FACT.

So the fact you didn't have a killing contract makes you no scum, is that your reasoning? That's very circumstantial and can even easily be plotted in advance if there's more than 3 scum by submitting a list of contracts you want. What you are actually saying here is: "Look at me being town, I even give you free info about me!"

WTF. If you feel so incredibly town and work so hard to PI yourself, why do you then release the contract that can best protect you and cause scum the loss of a NK, hmmm?


And not to detract from your reasoning, but actually, there's 3 contracts. Anti-Tank, Rupture and Blood-Induced Matter Transportation.

But who cares anyway, I am the consensus lynch.

We know that one of those 3 killing contracts is in town hands because rupture wasn't picked up until later in day 1. We know that there aren't any symps in this game. PS said so. From last nights CF's we know that there are at least 2 scum in this game. However there potentially could be a third. But if there was a third scum then they elected to pick up (most likely) possession as It went off the board fairly early yesterday. Then there is a potential SK. That brings a whole other WIFOM element to the game. Which as town we haven't really talked about.

Thus Venesara dropping a contract that isn't a killing contract and isn't possession (most likely other scum contract taken) means that he is PI to a decent degree. True it does not put him totally in the clear but it does enough to preclude him from being lynched with out more then just the day 1 none lynch info. It does however bring up an interesting fact in if he is town why wasn't he hammered yesterday when he was at l-1 for 6 hours.

As for dropping the contract yes he can pick it back up but he will not be able to use it. Basically he has set himself up for being a potential nk target in order to clear himself from being lynched. Thus allowing for towns focus to be better directed. It is a good move.

[Korvalain]

Venesara, on 08 May 2014 - 03:21 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 08 May 2014 - 01:23 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 3 hours and 38 minutes remain.

12 players are alive: Anthras, Demelain, Hanas, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korbas, Korvalain, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Tholen, Venesara

7 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.

3 votes for Hentos Ilm (Korbas, Venesara, Demelain, Korvalain)

In fact with Kara's vote that makes 5 votes on Hentos, unless one is a dud.

No sign of an update from PS, I don't dare leave it there too long so my vote is going back on Hentos and we'll have to live with needing L+1 and not knowing whose isn't counting. Korbas, Karatallid was a random alt picked out.

Remove Vote

Vote Hentos Ilm

[Hentos Ilm]

Korbas, on 08 May 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

What the fuck is Hentos doing leading the conversation?

I just logged in. How much time do we have? And why is karatallid the lynch candidate?

Trying to talk sense into a smug bastard who considers himself CI on day 2, someone who believes in post stamps as the end-all, and a guy riding smug guy's coat tails.

Now that I calmed down a tiny bit:

One, lynching me will not lose us the game but it will be a very unfortunate set-back. Basically, it might have given us a true, certified CI.

Two, if I have to look past Ven for scum and if I would have to accept he's town, then I'd look in the opposite direction: people who really try and reinforce he's town to smell like roses (Demelain, Korvalain), and people who very quietly vote along but still try to discredit them a little bit, since a lynch will probably be required to get rid of him.

That doesn't change the fact that I think he's a prime scum candidate.

[Kaschan]

ok, I've read Hentos' little meltdown.

he's jumping to conclusions all over the place. He's also plain out misinterpreting the whole registering order mechanic. And he's taking the high ground by claiming that he has a brilliant plan and we'll be oh-so-sorry that we lynched him. combined with his earlier statement that he'd rather die than relinquish his contract, he's apparently our saviour.




well, fuck that noise. I'm not buying it.




vote Hentos Lim

[Hentos Ilm]

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 03:26 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 08 May 2014 - 02:01 PM, said:

Venesara, on 08 May 2014 - 01:49 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 08 May 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:

Venesara, on 08 May 2014 - 12:23 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 08 May 2014 - 11:24 AM, said:

If I do go down, my alignment, strategy and intentions will be very clearly town.
If I don't go down, let's not talk about that. in the mean-time, I'd like to call attention to the following, which partly set up my current lynch.

Venesara, on 07 May 2014 - 11:03 AM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 05 May 2014 - 06:12 PM, said:

Second, and out again - this is purely a courtesy visit. I will post more in 12-14 hours when at work.

So he had time to post at work but all he gave us was this...

Hentos Ilm, on 06 May 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

Well, disappointing amount of replies, but that makes it at the very least easy to catch up.

Regarding the taking of contracts: since there are priority lists, it seems to me as if the confirmed contracts were the top of the priority-lists. If someone at a low priority requests a contract and higher prio players haven't checked in/submitted yet, those would be on hold, I imagine.

Let's see. That first post was the second player post of the game. The second quoted post was.... drumroll.... post # 37. Page 1. When Ven themselves was voting for a player for a misspelling of their name, several of the players hadn't checked in and we were firmly in no-content-land from just about everyone.

For those who don't bother checking back, it might seem a decent 'non-content' summary. Once you do check back, see that post in the context, it becomes a cheap shot and a bit of a silly case. To provide full context, I might add that, even if in the hour after that post, conversation catches up a bit.

That is not why you are being voted for. So what are you trying to say here?

Who would you vote for?

It might not be what I am voted for, (what the fuck am I voted for apart from no content, which is what your case is?) it is still a related set up due to bad reasoning.


I'd vote you, first and foremost. People fall over themselves to PI you on day 2 after a day 1 that was lynchless, and there have been multiple weird suggestions from you as well as the odd... let's call it... wording surrounding the contract. We are two days into the game and yet you start saying already that half the town doesn't react in its interests. Who are you to judge? In the same vein, your 'suggestion' that people shouldn't pick up the new contracts. Why? Half your posts are judgments, the others are recommendations without explanations.
Your voting pattern is odd, as well: you're jumping a lot. I also don't like how Demelain is giving you blowjobs every time he reacts to you.

So yeah, I'd search there.

Otherwise, Korbas' case is shaky (and probably rightly ignored) but it's original. He does a lot to deflate it, yet Tholen wants to bring it up again. That tickles my fancy as well.

I think it is the FACT that I relinquished a contract today mate for the sole purpose of letting you guys know which one I had. Someone else dropped one too but neither was a killing contract. So there are two people out there with a killing contract and one of them isn't me, FACT.

So the fact you didn't have a killing contract makes you no scum, is that your reasoning? That's very circumstantial and can even easily be plotted in advance if there's more than 3 scum by submitting a list of contracts you want. What you are actually saying here is: "Look at me being town, I even give you free info about me!"

WTF. If you feel so incredibly town and work so hard to PI yourself, why do you then release the contract that can best protect you and cause scum the loss of a NK, hmmm?


And not to detract from your reasoning, but actually, there's 3 contracts. Anti-Tank, Rupture and Blood-Induced Matter Transportation.

But who cares anyway, I am the consensus lynch.

We know that one of those 3 killing contracts is in town hands because rupture wasn't picked up until later in day 1. We know that there aren't any symps in this game. PS said so. From last nights CF's we know that there are at least 2 scum in this game. However there potentially could be a third. But if there was a third scum then they elected to pick up (most likely) possession as It went off the board fairly early yesterday. Then there is a potential SK. That brings a whole other WIFOM element to the game. Which as town we haven't really talked about.

Thus Venesara dropping a contract that isn't a killing contract and isn't possession (most likely other scum contract taken) means that he is PI to a decent degree. True it does not put him totally in the clear but it does enough to preclude him from being lynched with out more then just the day 1 none lynch info. It does however bring up an interesting fact in if he is town why wasn't he hammered yesterday when he was at l-1 for 6 hours.

As for dropping the contract yes he can pick it back up but he will not be able to use it. Basically he has set himself up for being a potential nk target in order to clear himself from being lynched. Thus allowing for towns focus to be better directed. It is a good move.

I think the contract does work as it isn't an action he has to specify a target for; it's always on. But that would be my interpretation of the wording.

[Hentos Ilm]

Kaschan, on 08 May 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

ok, I've read Hentos' little meltdown.

he's jumping to conclusions all over the place. He's also plain out misinterpreting the whole registering order mechanic. And he's taking the high ground by claiming that he has a brilliant plan and we'll be oh-so-sorry that we lynched him. combined with his earlier statement that he'd rather die than relinquish his contract, he's apparently our saviour.




well, fuck that noise. I'm not buying it.




vote Hentos Lim

I can't release my contract (upon CF you';ll see why), and you fucking read that wrong, anyway.

[Hentos Ilm]

Kaschan, on 08 May 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

ok, I've read Hentos' little meltdown.

he's jumping to conclusions all over the place. He's also plain out misinterpreting the whole registering order mechanic. And he's taking the high ground by claiming that he has a brilliant plan and we'll be oh-so-sorry that we lynched him. combined with his earlier statement that he'd rather die than relinquish his contract, he's apparently our saviour.




well, fuck that noise. I'm not buying it.




vote Hentos Lim

Also, I don't know how strict D'rek will be with spelling, but currently, you're not voting me.

[Venesara]

Remove vote

[Anthras]

Hentos Ilm, on 08 May 2014 - 03:01 PM, said:

Venesara, on 08 May 2014 - 02:56 PM, said:

Seriously, not long left to go. Hentos who would you pick right now?

Stop getting butt hurt because we are currently on your train, your defense feels quite... sulky!

You, you stupid dick. How many times do I have to repeat myself? You are scum. Plain and simple, and your own dodgy logic aside, you have two little helpers with very little reasoning apart from naive, easily disarmed suppositions going on.


Furthermore, knowing what I had planned, I am pretty sure you guys will feel more hurt in the butt upon CF than my forehead is feeling from the repeated facepalming I am doing.


Seriously, the amount of defense you're getting, should raise all alarmbells .

With out revealing which contract you have. Do you have an outside reason to believe that Venesara is scum?

[Hentos Ilm]

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 03:32 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 08 May 2014 - 03:01 PM, said:

Venesara, on 08 May 2014 - 02:56 PM, said:

Seriously, not long left to go. Hentos who would you pick right now?

Stop getting butt hurt because we are currently on your train, your defense feels quite... sulky!

You, you stupid dick. How many times do I have to repeat myself? You are scum. Plain and simple, and your own dodgy logic aside, you have two little helpers with very little reasoning apart from naive, easily disarmed suppositions going on.


Furthermore, knowing what I had planned, I am pretty sure you guys will feel more hurt in the butt upon CF than my forehead is feeling from the repeated facepalming I am doing.


Seriously, the amount of defense you're getting, should raise all alarmbells .

With out revealing which contract you have. Do you have an outside reason to believe that Venesara is scum?

No.

[Venesara]

Vote Kaschan

If I am right, and I think I am, Kaschan just saw what I saw in Hentos and decided that he needs to be lynched (from a scum perspective)

Whereas I think we may need to keep Hentos around.

I know Hentos cannot reveal his current contract

[Venesara]

Regardless, we would need an extra vote to take out Hentos.

Evanescence

[Tholen]

Kara made it back before mod. I am placing him as very high chance of town.

Korbas is likely town in my gut.

I like Kaschan's thoughts about Korv sounding suspect.

Anthras, I not sure about.

Ven's claims about releasing his contract makes him now seem town to me.

I think HI is our only chance for a lynch. Earlier I worried we would lose Kara to mod, but now he's back and we might also see another confirmed town brought back. I think we are on the right track to clearing alt best way we can. Vote HI

[Korvalain]

Venesara, on 08 May 2014 - 03:34 PM, said:

Vote Kaschan

If I am right, and I think I am, Kaschan just saw what I saw in Hentos and decided that he needs to be lynched (from a scum perspective)

Whereas I think we may need to keep Hentos around.

I know Hentos cannot reveal his current contract

I see what I think he's implying, there really is no way to test it though is there?

[Hentos Ilm]

Venesara, on 08 May 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

Regardless, we would need an extra vote to take out Hentos.

Evanescence

It is reading the OP, really.
Anyway, I'll be gone for the day.

Vote Kaschan.