[Path-Shaper]

Okral Lom, on 25 April 2014 - 11:53 AM, said:

Hmm, so I guess the scum are still poking around to try to find Shin. That NK choice seemed like a classic "pick someone you don't have a read on". Although he was getting into it with Eloth...

So my current line of thinking is that either it's one of Shadow/Denul or Tiamatha/Eloth.

ST

(PS: I notice you're a stickler for the Remove Vote requirements but you don't seem to require people to put other players full and correctly spelled names in their votes. Talk about double standards ).

Because not removing is a legit scum/symp tactic, or even town in the case of lovers. Sure, it might seem suspicious, but it happens enough.

Misspelling names doesn't make a wit of difference.

[Khellendros]

With hindsight, there are in fact a couple of things that stick out with GL.


1) He's received next to no pressure or attention from others but is still alive.


2) He repeatedly said how much he liked my posts and thought I was town. At the time it struck me as slightly slimy behaviour, but with all the other targets I didn't pay it especial attention.


3) His reaction to Okral Lom's unpushy mention of his name could raise some question marks...if people were looking, which they weren't and won't be


My post in which I outline Eloth's behaviour and interaction thus far should raise alarms...but again only if people look. Of course, it's all so easy from up here, rargh I hate being in SH before game end!

[Khellendros]

Eeee, this is what I was talking about above!

Okral Lom, on 25 April 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 25 April 2014 - 07:08 AM, said:

Okral Lom, on 25 April 2014 - 02:24 AM, said:

Just noticed this. I'm not quite sure what you're unsure about here. In the first of the posts you quote, I'm speculating that if you were to read Denul's post as that of a symp, then you and Shadow are the two that would make the most sense as masters for him. This does not mean I am convinced that Denul is actually a symp - it's a hypothetical. Does it matter what my overall feelings about Denul's reads and speculation are for the purposes of that hypothetical? I don't see that they do...

Ok first to reply to this:

I'm starting to think Denul distracted us succesfully by raising the issue of warlord symps. I read your post as saying,
Paraphrased: "look, denul suggested warlord symps and this nullified/blunted all symp discussions and connections. How can we trust this wasn't an evasion tactic."

Hence my doubts on Denul at the moment. I think for a post that casts further doubt on Denul in the eyes of the rest of us its strange for you to use Denuls case building ommission to land Shadow, myself and Eloth in a scum category. This is why I'm unsure about the jump. Maybe I'm over sensitive about it but the link you're making looks forced as though you're grasping loose ends to make a case on me specifically. I already said there have been several players I haven't had direct discussion with and if it isn't due to login times its due to my own limited time in game.

Can't see why I'm linked to Eloth when the same reasoning links me to players like Bek Okhan, Rikkter and Ampelas. Even Alkend and I had no dialogue though that counts far less. I've atleast had some dialogue with Eloth and honestly they're high on my list as likely scum this day due to the behaviour switch and further unwarranted talk on warlords. Cannot see how our shared name ommission makes me linked to Eloth and then Shadow. Its not sound reasoning to me.

I'm not sure why you think I'm linking you with Eloth - I'm really not (and I'm not sure why you're quite so upset about it either). And the fact that you were bottom of my list of suspects should make it clear that I really didn't see it as a precursor to a case or anything of the sort. It was some idle speculation I thought I'd throw out and to be honest I was more interested in possible implications about Shadow and Eloth than you.

Glad to see it touched a nerve though .

Come on ST, you can do it!

[Tattersail_]

Faith in the old guard. Faith I tell thee.

[Khellendros]

Shadow, on 25 April 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:

Well I guess I won't be voting for Denul now. Since I am the most likely lynch my suspect list is

Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Lock, Okral Lom, Shadow, Tiamatha

Eloth
Galayn Lord
Tiamatha
Bek
Okral
Denul

Yes denul stays on the list he just is down at the bottom.

Eloth and GL have gotten here in the last couple of days and started to try to direct the thread to lynches. That is a scum move. Also I am pretty sure that there isn't a lynch that either GL or Eloth have missed.

Vengy, I could kiss you!

It's a pity his last sentence undermines him slightly - as both Eloth and GL have indeed missed at least one train.

Now will anyone listen to Mr. Scummy, that's the question.

[Path-Shaper]

Shadow, on 25 April 2014 - 03:04 PM, said:

I firmly believe that scum think that I am there symp. Either that or they are setting me up to be lynched as a possible symp. Oh well.

Tiamatha, on 25 April 2014 - 02:37 PM, said:

and now shadow has pegged all three of us. Shit damn. If I draw a lynch do they just go back to eloth hunting or does it get shadow back in the frame.

decisions decisions

[Tattersail_]

Are you around Khell?

[Khellendros]

Tattersail_, on 25 April 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Are you around Khell?

On and off. Hey, wait, is Tiam scum too? Well, at least there's a good chance they lynch scum then. Unless, you know, Shadow, sigh...


Galayn's getting quite jumpy...

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 25 April 2014 - 03:31 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 25 April 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

Are you around Khell?

On and off. Hey, wait, is Tiam scum too? Well, at least there's a good chance they lynch scum then. Unless, you know, Shadow, sigh...


Galayn's getting quite jumpy...

Tiam is a symp, as Denul said days ago.

Eloth is scum as you flipped and flopped around with.

You are up.

[Khellendros]

Trull, on 18 April 2014 - 05:09 PM, said:

Sorry I fucked the game hard like that. I will commit sudoku promptly.

You will complete a number puzzle? How...tragic

[Khellendros]

Oh Venge

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 25 April 2014 - 04:29 PM

[Path-Shaper]

First PM of thoughts from Galayn Lord.

Galayn Lord, on 25 April 2014 - 06:02 PM, said:

Hello PS, SH

So I've really tried to keep the workings of my mind to myself because I'm playing it fast and loose. my original plan was to keep players like Denul and Shadow on longer so we'd have atleast two other alternatives to Eloth whom I think needs to ride the wave of pressure I'm supporting. Hope he can ride it till I'm able to bring down a heavy case on Bek and/or possibly Tiam.

I'm enjoying my first run as scum. I feel I may be playing it a little too emotional but if anyone alts me as Dolmen they should expect that. I'm an amateur playing at knowing the game and thats what I need them all thinking. If it comes to a situation where Eloth gets lynched I'm expecting it to be an OL, Bek and me situation come D-day.

If Eloth can survive todays lynch on shadow and what I suppose will best be a kill on Denul tonight we just need to get Bek or Tiam to look scummy. I'm gonna start building that case tonight. If we get away with it we win. I just hope Eloth feels the strategy, would be great if we had a third scum player, this would be in the bag in that case.

If Eloth does get lynched at some point I'll need to be on that ish super early or else current onthread speculation by Lock and OL and even Shadow will be the death of me.

Eloth, on 25 April 2014 - 08:35 PM, said:

No time, got busted at work already for playing too much Mafia.... D:

Day 6 Provisional Kills; move to next target if lynched:

Denul
Bek Okhan
Okral Lom
Shadow
Tiamatha

Okral Lom, on 25 April 2014 - 10:06 PM, said:

Gah, I was kind of leaning away from thinking Shadow was scummy when he brought up Lock as a lynch candidate yesterday. It showed he was trying to do more than just save his own skin when the obvious self-save plan would have been to go after Tiamatha (did I discourage him from that by having him so far down my list?). And I can't help it, I'm a sucker for the "I don't really care, just lynch me" defence. It always makes me doubt myself.

But it's too late for doubts now, I've put him at the top of my list and have been going after him for days and he has yet to do anything that makes me think "hold on a minute, this guy might be worth saving!".The way he squirmed for some other option is so easy to construe as both an inno and a scummy thing to do though...*sigh*

Now I really need to find time to do a reread of GL at the weekend. The flare-up he had today was very unexpected.

[Khellendros]

Yeah, unfortunately ShadowVenge is just filling the thread and getting all their attention now. As a potential d-day, town should go through the remaining people left, trying to look at it with fresh eyes. But I don't see it happening.

[Messremb]

Khellendros, on 26 April 2014 - 09:47 AM, said:

Yeah, unfortunately ShadowVenge is just filling the thread and getting all their attention now. As a potential d-day, town should go through the remaining people left, trying to look at it with fresh eyes. But I don't see it happening.

It actually is D-day - either a town lynch or a Nk'd town will hand the game to scum

[Khellendros]

Messremb, on 26 April 2014 - 05:51 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 26 April 2014 - 09:47 AM, said:

Yeah, unfortunately ShadowVenge is just filling the thread and getting all their attention now. As a potential d-day, town should go through the remaining people left, trying to look at it with fresh eyes. But I don't see it happening.

It actually is D-day - either a town lynch or a Nk'd town will hand the game to scum

We know that but town doesn't for certain. However, they should be keeping the very real (actually real) possibility in mind and thus looking over everything again. Alas, this has scum win written all over it now.

[Path-Shaper]

Khellendros, on 28 April 2014 - 08:56 AM, said:

Messremb, on 26 April 2014 - 05:51 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 26 April 2014 - 09:47 AM, said:

Yeah, unfortunately ShadowVenge is just filling the thread and getting all their attention now. As a potential d-day, town should go through the remaining people left, trying to look at it with fresh eyes. But I don't see it happening.

It actually is D-day - either a town lynch or a Nk'd town will hand the game to scum

We know that but town doesn't for certain. However, they should be keeping the very real (actually real) possibility in mind and thus looking over everything again. Alas, this has scum win written all over it now.

I'm forced to agree. Even if they manage to lynch Tiam, that won't tell the anything as he will CF as RI. I don't see them lynching Eloth or GL, but, well, stranger things have happened in Malazan Mafia, although usually Khell is still alive when they do.

[Tattersail_]

Yeah town are so off this game end. Not even coming close.

[Path-Shaper]

Path-Shaper, on 28 April 2014 - 02:21 PM, said:

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And you assmonkeys lynched Rikkter. Then another day goes by and I go off at the End of the game like I do and hey low and behold town has to lynch me because I am distracting on potentially fucking D day. You don't lynch a distraction on D day you lynch a distraction 2 days earlier when he tells you he is going to be a distraction.

This is hilarious, just sayin'.

Maybe if he wasn't...you know, a distraction? ALL WOULD BE SOLVED!

[Tattersail_]

I wish Venge just stuck with Eloth as his main candidate for scum. I so wish it. There hasn't been a decent town case they are all pushing on gut.

Like is Tiam's reasoning for voting on D day good enough? Is it?

It's lazy but maybe they do not think it is D day. D'rek changed her tune for Tiam the symp. Yet she was dead on.

[Tattersail_]

Okral was right about Galayn Lord.

Lock was right about Eloth.