[Path-Shaper]

Eloth, on 17 April 2014 - 11:22 PM, said:

Korabas is still bullshitting away at his reveal, which to be honest, I am not happy with, as he even admits that he broke the rules. If he isn't lying, I'm glad I didn't even have the opportunity to target him last night, and I'm still hesitant to do it now. The "guard" language really confuses me and the fact that he's claiming that you took away some of his abilities is weird and unsettling. If he truly does have some sort of "super-guard" then that is pretty gay but the whole problem is it's just totally unknown, and I certainly wouldn't want to waste a kill or have myself revealed on thread.

Anyway. Glad I didn't try to off Korabas - also, am I lying about not being around before timeout...? The secrets we keep...

[Path-Shaper]

Oh wow....

Korabas, on 18 April 2014 - 01:07 AM, said:

On the off chance I make it to night.

kill Denul


If only for calling me on my bullshit.

[Path-Shaper]

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2014 - 03:21 AM, said:

Oh wow....

Korabas, on 18 April 2014 - 01:07 AM, said:

On the off chance I make it to night.

kill Denul


If only for calling me on my bullshit.

So, either Town lynches Korabas and Souther dies. Or town DOESN'T lynch Korabas and Shin dies. Either way, warlord goes down and that VC is gone.

[Path-Shaper]

Tiamatha, on 17 April 2014 - 10:38 PM, said:

change that to block denul

I dunno what to do, was korabas' claim of role survival true?

does he shift a kill to a random? Head melt, hate playing symp, going to bed, probably wake up fucking lynched.

maybe play the 'denul is gut, I went against my gut last time and gusty won' card. Failing that, claim to be a lost sheep whos win condition is telling every player to go fuck themselves

[Path-Shaper]

More ST

Okral Lom, on 17 April 2014 - 12:18 AM, said:

OK, my guess is that Korabas has some kind of BP or knowledge of the existence of a Guard role. There's no other explanation for being so cavalier about his identity. BO likely his symp. I guess my instincts were WAAAAY off on the matter.

I think I might have slipped up slightly by implying that I do not have the same knowledge as Ampelas/Denul. As an RI it's probably no bad thing if I draw an NK...

ST

Okral Lom, on 18 April 2014 - 10:38 AM, said:

I'm not 100% convinced of Korabas' innocence, but my theory is that he was stripped of his ability and given another one, but it wasn't quite as awesome as he's making it out to be. He just doesn't want Kenshiro to NK him and hopes that by spreading rumours of his legendary abilities on thread that he'll avoid it if he doesn't get lynched. This is sensible if he's a warlord, since he should want to avoid the possibility of being NKed above all.

Now, the problem is that this hypothesis is very difficult to test - if his gambit works and he avoids NK, how will we know if he's telling white lies or just being a scummy scum who scums? And it's difficult to trust a player who is lying, even one who may be doing so for benign purposes.

ST

[Path-Shaper]

Ok...Wow.

Here is night 3 resolution.

Korabas lynch is looking unlikely. He vigs Shin, which makes Raoh's BP disappear, and Raoh is Eloth's kill target. Two Warlords in one night. Ruins Kenshiro's VC's, but...ouch.

[Path-Shaper]

My guess is this is just ST fishing for a Path-Shaper response, but in case the question is serious:

Okral Lom, on 18 April 2014 - 12:42 PM, said:

Not sure why you're being so finicky about the Remove Vote thing. The intent is obvious, no?

It's a legitimate symp move to pretend but not actually vote for their master. In this case, the symp isn't voting for someone he suspects his master needs to kill for VC purposes. That's why the rule exists.

[Path-Shaper]

HAHAHAHAHA

So Shin (D'rek) stays alive, while Souther and Raoh both die. No questions about resolution in this scenario. BOOM.

[Path-Shaper]

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2014 - 12:41 PM, said:

Ok...Wow.

Here is night 3 resolution.

Korabas lynch is looking unlikely. He vigs Shin, which makes Raoh's BP disappear, and Raoh is Eloth's kill target. Two Warlords in one night. Ruins Kenshiro's VC's, but...ouch.

Never mind. Korabas is lynched so his vig of Shin doesn't happen. However, Raoh's BP disappears and he's wacked with no resistance by Kenshiro. I'm drooling as I write this scene.

[Path-Shaper]

Ampelas, on 18 April 2014 - 01:28 PM, said:

Oops, I led a lynch on my own Warlord. Sorry Souther but as my PM says

"You are a total asshole. You are buff, violent, and incredibly stupid."

So I figure I'm playing the part well

Plus, revealing then wasn't a good shout

[Path-Shaper]

Tiamatha, on 18 April 2014 - 01:55 PM, said:

damn me, shoulda forced that korabas lynch off the table.

Well, if you had, the vig of Shin would have gone through and the VC's would be gone anyways. So once you reach SH and read this, yeah, no sweat.

[Trull's son]

Sorry I fucked the game hard like that. I will commit sudoku promptly.

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2014 - 03:23 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2014 - 03:21 AM, said:

Oh wow....

Korabas, on 18 April 2014 - 01:07 AM, said:

On the off chance I make it to night. kill DenulIf only for calling me on my bullshit.

So, either Town lynches Korabas and Souther dies. Or town DOESN'T lynch Korabas and Shin dies. Either way, warlord goes down and that VC is gone.

This would have been the greatest disaster I've ever single handedly created. Ah, can't wait till next game.

Until then.

[Gnaw]

Gust Hubb, on 15 April 2014 - 09:35 PM, said:

Okral Lom, on 15 April 2014 - 09:26 PM, said:

Interesting. Maybe someone got annoyed at his posting style or something? I'm a little surprised, because it seemed as though MO was about to come under some heat. I guess we'll just have to live without his Librarian impersonation from now on (judging by the complaints of everyone doing catch-up, he won't be missed).

Asshole.

Le sigh.

He's right. It was detrimentally annoying.

[Gnaw]

Trull, on 18 April 2014 - 05:09 PM, said:

Sorry I fucked the game hard like that. I will commit sudoku promptly.

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2014 - 03:23 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2014 - 03:21 AM, said:

Oh wow....

Korabas, on 18 April 2014 - 01:07 AM, said:

On the off chance I make it to night. kill DenulIf only for calling me on my bullshit.

So, either Town lynches Korabas and Souther dies. Or town DOESN'T lynch Korabas and Shin dies. Either way, warlord goes down and that VC is gone.

This would have been the greatest disaster I've ever single handedly created. Ah, can't wait till next game.

Until then.

Oh, it could have been worse. Much worse. I had carpal and cubital surgery this morning. I forgot to put my provisional in. "if Korabas is a warlord vig Denul."

[Path-Shaper]

ansible is scary. He's just picked out Shin.

Eloth, on 18 April 2014 - 06:06 PM, said:

Dammit, I passed out in bed sitting with my laptop last night. I really intended to give my writeup on Amp and vote for Korabas but I woke up like an hour before timeout completely clothed cradling my computer. Motherfuck. At that point I could not vote because I would be the hammer and it was early morning for me and that is just some scummy hammer behavior without more to back it up like I said. If I'm lucky I'll get some time to post in between family events this weekend, but I may just be totally out of pocket.

I am slightly disappointed at the destruction of the Warlord VCs due to Korabas breaking the rules. I realize it is and was your call, but the whole reveal/fake-reveal bit that Korabas was able to say on thread that P-S had confirmed for him really fucked me a bit, I think. Regardless of whether his abilities, new or old, were actually real, he basically was able to reveal his actual identity by giving the name of an ability that permanently tied him to one of the three Warlords - that's as good as an "identity reveal" in my mind - which did turn out to be true, he was the Warlord that he implied he was by naming his ability. It's good that another townie was lynched but after he revealed that he was a Warlord, there was not a chance in hell that the Warlord VCs were going to be fulfilled.

Ironically I got rid of Kesso, who was one of my original picks for a Warlord and ended up being right, but it's not going to help me much. Maybe that other Warlord has new abilities now that he's the last one left or something.

Thankfully GL has been playing a great fucking game, whoever is back there gets my infinite gratitude. If anything, I feel sure that I will come under suspicion before he does for not being around enough and as long as the WIFOM continues, I'm hoping he can bring it home. With parity being our only VCs though, it's going to be hard. BCS, 10 players alive right now, we need 4 to reach parity if we both survive. That's three more game days, minimum. If one of us gets lynched, five days. That is a lot of time to survive through now that we've solidly hit mid-game. Not sure if we can win just because that is a hard limit, one we can't get around in any way.

Regardless...we shall do our best. Neither of us has had much heat; OL gave me some grief earlier but thankfully I played it off well enough that he dropped it. If I can actually start participating more and keep focus on everyone who is already getting heat we might have a chance. Denul is posting too much for my liking, and I don't know that he's going to get lynched now, with the scum shadow cast on Shadow (lol) and others who are pressing for his lynch. Best option may be to kill him off I think, or Amp. Ideally my case on Amp will either get him lynched or put distance between us if I kill him. I've gotten Lock to agree with me when I agreed with Rikkter, so I am not as worried about those two at the momemnt. Tiam is lynchable and Bek is handling that at the moment, OL I need to get a better read on but despite his post count, I have deflected him once before and hope I can let him play out a bit. Hard to see who I want to keep around for endgame... killing Denul might put some targets on the backs of Shadow and Tiam. We'll see.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. This is all the time I basically have to post at the moment and here I am summarizing everything off-thread. Back to work.

Eloth, on 18 April 2014 - 06:10 PM, said:

New list, just to be safe...

Day 4 Provisional Kills; move to next target if lynched:

Denul
Ampelas
Bek Okhan
Okral Lom
Shadow
Tiamatha
Rikkter
Lock

[Path-Shaper]

Gnaw, on 18 April 2014 - 11:05 PM, said:

Trull, on 18 April 2014 - 05:09 PM, said:

Sorry I fucked the game hard like that. I will commit sudoku promptly.

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2014 - 03:23 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2014 - 03:21 AM, said:

Oh wow....

Korabas, on 18 April 2014 - 01:07 AM, said:

On the off chance I make it to night. kill DenulIf only for calling me on my bullshit.

So, either Town lynches Korabas and Souther dies. Or town DOESN'T lynch Korabas and Shin dies. Either way, warlord goes down and that VC is gone.

This would have been the greatest disaster I've ever single handedly created. Ah, can't wait till next game.

Until then.

Oh, it could have been worse. Much worse. I had carpal and cubital surgery this morning. I forgot to put my provisional in. "if Korabas is a warlord vig Denul."

Oh damn... That would have made the scene even more epic though. All 3 warlords in one cycle? Damn.

[Gnaw]

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2014 - 11:28 PM, said:

ansible is scary. He's just picked out Shin.

Yeah he is. I was going to make a comment sometime yesterday I think about swimming with sharks. Now I know I'm a minnow swimming with sharks but that they're pussycats compared to the leviathans.

[Gnaw]

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2014 - 11:28 PM, said:

ansible is scary. He's just picked out Shin.

Eloth, on 18 April 2014 - 06:06 PM, said:

I am slightly disappointed at the destruction of the Warlord VCs due to Korabas breaking the rules. I realize it is and was your call, but the whole reveal/fake-reveal bit that Korabas was able to say on thread that P-S had confirmed for him really fucked me a bit, I think. Regardless of whether his abilities, new or old, were actually real, he basically was able to reveal his actual identity by giving the name of an ability that permanently tied him to one of the three Warlords - that's as good as an "identity reveal" in my mind - which did turn out to be true, he was the Warlord that he implied he was by naming his ability. It's good that another townie was lynched but after he revealed that he was a Warlord, there was not a chance in hell that the Warlord VCs were going to be fulfilled.

The man has a point. I didn't think about it because I had already decided to throw Korabas under the bus, but by naming that ability he did really did break the rules.

[Trull's son]

Gnaw, on 18 April 2014 - 11:48 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2014 - 11:28 PM, said:

ansible is scary. He's just picked out Shin.

Eloth, on 18 April 2014 - 06:06 PM, said:

I am slightly disappointed at the destruction of the Warlord VCs due to Korabas breaking the rules. I realize it is and was your call, but the whole reveal/fake-reveal bit that Korabas was able to say on thread that P-S had confirmed for him really fucked me a bit, I think. Regardless of whether his abilities, new or old, were actually real, he basically was able to reveal his actual identity by giving the name of an ability that permanently tied him to one of the three Warlords - that's as good as an "identity reveal" in my mind - which did turn out to be true, he was the Warlord that he implied he was by naming his ability. It's good that another townie was lynched but after he revealed that he was a Warlord, there was not a chance in hell that the Warlord VCs were going to be fulfilled.

The man has a point. I didn't think about it because I had already decided to throw Korabas under the bus, but by naming that ability he did really did break the rules.

One day we'll have to decide what it means to not be allowed to reveal your identity, while being allowed to reveal your ability (whether true or not). Naming the ability was not against the rules. In fact, I probably should have done that instead of the role reveal. It would have accomplished the same thing, except without breaking the rules. The problem is, by "giving the name of an ability that permanently tied [me] to one of the three Warlords," it was no different than a role reveal. The line gets hard to spot at times.

[Gnaw]

Trull, on 19 April 2014 - 01:57 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 18 April 2014 - 11:48 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2014 - 11:28 PM, said:

ansible is scary. He's just picked out Shin.

Eloth, on 18 April 2014 - 06:06 PM, said:

I am slightly disappointed at the destruction of the Warlord VCs due to Korabas breaking the rules. I realize it is and was your call, but the whole reveal/fake-reveal bit that Korabas was able to say on thread that P-S had confirmed for him really fucked me a bit, I think. Regardless of whether his abilities, new or old, were actually real, he basically was able to reveal his actual identity by giving the name of an ability that permanently tied him to one of the three Warlords - that's as good as an "identity reveal" in my mind - which did turn out to be true, he was the Warlord that he implied he was by naming his ability. It's good that another townie was lynched but after he revealed that he was a Warlord, there was not a chance in hell that the Warlord VCs were going to be fulfilled.

The man has a point. I didn't think about it because I had already decided to throw Korabas under the bus, but by naming that ability he did really did break the rules.

One day we'll have to decide what it means to not be allowed to reveal your identity, while being allowed to reveal your ability (whether true or not). Naming the ability was not against the rules. In fact, I probably should have done that instead of the role reveal. It would have accomplished the same thing, except without breaking the rules. The problem is, by "giving the name of an ability that permanently tied [me] to one of the three Warlords," it was no different than a role reveal. The line gets hard to spot at times.

Agreed. Ansible meant, I think, that naming the ability tied you to a specific warlord for anyone who bothered to read the wiki.