[Path-Shaper]

"Aqib."
"Who is this?"
"In the bar, you were speaking about turncoats."
"Yeah?"
"You're one."
"I... who are you?"
"Count to three."

Aqib throws the cell-phone away and runs, but the exploding nearby car catches lifts him up on a billowing cloud of fiery gas, shards of car parts and smoke.

Ampelas is dead. He was Aqib Houzmandah a Russian spy (RI) and ansible.

[Path-Shaper]

5 are alive.
Korabas, Kessobahn, Lock, Okral Lom, Rikkter.

3 for lynch, 3 for night.

It is now day 5.
32 hours on the clock

[Korabas]

Fuck me over a barrel. Well, I think it's safe to say there aren't 3 scum since this bloody game isn't over yet. Maybe 2, and I wish there was just 1 but I'm not going to kid myself. I don't think I need to say this, but I will anyway:

DON'T FUCKING VOTE UNTIL WE ALL HAVE DISCUSSED EVERYTHING WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!

IF THERE ARE 2 SCUM, A WRONG VOTE LOSES US THE GAME!!!!!!

[Lock]

Exactly.

I really really really want to vote Kesso.

Why? Because I will not be responsible for my actions and crimes against humanity if HO is scum AGAIN, and we didn't lynch the bastard.

[Lock]

But I don't trust any of you.

[Korabas]

Ok, so before I have to start the trek to work, I want to give my quick assessment of where I stand now:

I pretty much have Rikkter as PI unless someone can make a case otherwise (which would be hard to convince me because I fucking did the case on him earlier). Basically, the use of his power was a total townie move and thus I am at this point most interested in his assessment.

Kesso and Lock are low posters of varying degrees, both kind of scummy throughout the entire game. I'll try to do a case on at least 1 later today to wrap my head around their play (should be easy enough).

You already know my stance on OL, and it remains the same as before. We most likely have 2 scum, and I think he is one of them, but apparently the lot of you are not convinced. I would hear why.

I possibly can sporadically post for another hour or so, and hopefully be around to work out some stuff while I go to work.

[Lock]

I'm totally down with an OL vote, for the record. If it's 2 people left who are scum, then Kesso and OL are my top 2.

We couldn't get an OL train going, or a full lynch on Kesso. Resistance makes my eyes narrow.

[Korabas]

Yeah, I'm starting to think that along with middle road play, that has launched to the top of my scummy criteria. unfortunately, i think tatts really screwed with my mindset this game. i feel like scummy scum is relatively rare comparatively.

[Kessobahn]

Lock is scum with that move that he thought was hammering Denul

[Kessobahn]

Korabas, on 09 April 2014 - 11:39 AM, said:

Ok, so before I have to start the trek to work, I want to give my quick assessment of where I stand now:

I pretty much have Rikkter as PI unless someone can make a case otherwise (which would be hard to convince me because I fucking did the case on him earlier). Basically, the use of his power was a total townie move and thus I am at this point most interested in his assessment.

Kesso and Lock are low posters of varying degrees, both kind of scummy throughout the entire game. I'll try to do a case on at least 1 later today to wrap my head around their play (should be easy enough).

You already know my stance on OL, and it remains the same as before. We most likely have 2 scum, and I think he is one of them, but apparently the lot of you are not convinced. I would hear why.

I possibly can sporadically post for another hour or so, and hopefully be around to work out some stuff while I go to work.

Why do you think Rikkter is PI?

Summarize your case on OL, please

[Lock]

Kessobahn, on 09 April 2014 - 12:11 PM, said:

Lock is scum with that move that he thought was hammering Denul

Hahahaha, don't you even start.

I knew it wasn't a hammer - check the time stamps.

[Korabas]

Kessobahn, on 09 April 2014 - 12:11 PM, said:

Lock is scum with that move that he thought was hammering Denul

Ah, look who pops out from the woodwork. why would that be definitive scum? Denul sunk his ship at the very start of the day. and it's not luke anything was really happening yesterday that was helping us come to a conclusion... just a bunch of sad sack belly aching.

Any thoughts on the other three? i'd take even one liners from u at this point

[Korabas]

Rikky was an ideal scum candidate for playing middle of the road solid townie and throwing tatts under the bus. however, his ability to add time to the day just has to be a town ability ( parsimoniously, cause i could twist the ability around in my head if i strained myself).

as for the case on OL, it is very similar, but has the additional weight of pointin out how despite all of his "thoughtful" posts, he really hasn't taken many strong stands on anyone, which is odd for his style of play. plus, there has got to be scum on tatts day 1 train. if i'm wrong, i'll eat my motherfucking non-existent hat

[Korabas]

okay, i've played your twenty questions Kesso. your turn. start talking

[Kessobahn]

Lock, on 09 April 2014 - 12:16 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 09 April 2014 - 12:11 PM, said:

Lock is scum with that move that he thought was hammering Denul

Hahahaha, don't you even start.

I knew it wasn't a hammer - check the time stamps.

I just did, it was like 30 minutes - but the wording of the post accompanying that vote...oh that just makes me think you thought you were hammering, or voting for no good reason

[Kessobahn]

Korabas, on 09 April 2014 - 12:27 PM, said:

okay, i've played your twenty questions Kesso. your turn. start talking

that was only 2 questions, but we'll let that pass




I have not assumed that the time extension must be town ability, although it may be. I am asking if you have any other indications

You refer to OL's style of play as being off, which sounds like meta - otherwise you accuse him of being smooth, no?

Day 1 train analysis is pretty random from what I've seen




I am going to go read up as time allows (good luck to me on that) - so I agree to hold voting until much later

[Korabas]

Not meta on OL. I'm saying for such an involved player, watching the thread closely, asking questions, etc, i'd expect a case or two, more voting, hell even more coherence between posts. a scummy player like this is a gestalt, which is why my summary is probably unsatisfactory to someone too lazy to read my actual case.

As for the day 1 lynch train analysis, to rehash, often the lynch of scum has scum on the train trying to prove they're townie by eliminating one of there own. thus, those voting after a lynch train seems unstoppable are suspicious.

and really, why and how could rikky's ability not be town?

[Korabas]

As for other indications on Rikky, not really. I fucking voted for the guy after my case on him, that's how i thought of him.

[Okral Lom]

Path-Shaper, on 01 April 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

13 alive.


1 hours, 20 minutes or thereabouts left.

6 votes on Galayn Lord (Rikkter, monok ochem, Alkend, Bek Okhan, Okral Lom, Ampelas, Eloth)
1 vote for Monok (Korabas)
1 vote for Bek Okhan (GL)
1 vote for Alkend ( Lock)

Vote for scum

Rikkter
Okral

Not voted for scum
Kesso
Korabas
Lock

Now my break down

Rikkter - Started the train on GL and while I have had instances of being mildly suspicious of him all game. I do not see scum starting a train on scum on day 1 then following it through to the end.

My self - Picture of town. Thoughtful player who has tried to make sense of a messed up game.



Kesso - Has not built one case or contributed to town in any meaningful way. There are two reasons he is still alive on Dday
a. Serious low poster that scum kept around
b. scum killer or scum mastermind

Korbas - Has a small chubby for me. But isn't totally blind to other players. Didn't vote for scum on day 1 and has been middle of the road ever since


Lock - Has been here and there. No major waves also pretty much a middle of the road player. Didn't vote for scum on day 1.


I think that scum in the three players who didn't vote for GL. I am feel that kesso is one of them. The second is much harder to point as I feel that Korbas and Lock have both played very careful and similar games.

[Okral Lom]

Also I added Eloth to the end of the train because PS didn't include a final vote count in GL's lynch.