[Emurlahnis]

My thoughts follow a similar track. Its a bit oppurtunistic and not much info from this player one way or the other. I cant lay such a vote down on day 1 but happy to relook it on Day 2

1 days worth of excused absence is fine, 2 days of excuses would be tough to forgive. For now I'm gonna have to ask Eldat Pressen to share more with us than game summary. Is there any response to Skinticks Vote tht I missed?

[Ampelas]

 Skintick, on 21 January 2014 - 08:03 PM, said:

 Eldat Pressen, on 21 January 2014 - 07:08 PM, said:

Im sorta here, not particularly attentive right now though.

My main problem with voting for Rikkter is that hes not here to defend himself, so it seems a bit opportunistic to attack him now. But, should no new options present themselves A lynch is better than a no lynch, and Rikkter witholding his vote seems like he's trying to lay as low as possible. So when time gets short Ill likely add my vote on to him.

No response to my vote in him... Interesting. Lynch better than no lynch party-line, check. Why now not particularly attentive? Stab a being nonchalant is my guess.

I doubt rikker is scum. Stupid townie move in classic technicolor with the token sheep following lynch and hedging that we'd expect from day 1. No one wants to lynch a good townie persona just yet, and that is one of the bad moves we always make.

Vote remains where it is.

I'm gonna go have a closer look at your case, see what I think. I'm not particularly interested in voting Rikkter or Hentos Ilm, so I'll see if I like your Eldat Pressen vote any more.

[Ampelas]

 Skintick, on 21 January 2014 - 12:16 PM, said:

 Eldat Pressen, on 21 January 2014 - 04:44 AM, said:

So it seems...

So I might as well do something...

So this is a 14 person game, with 2 scum and a symp as per OP.

So 11 town, 3 scum. That means WCS DDay is day 5 I believe, BCS we win in 3 days.

I won't do any town role spec as that only helps scum, and since this game is only TMDI 4 it shouldn't be too complicated anyhow.

Basically we need a Day 1lynch because if we don't lynch we continue the string of Day1 pt. 2's that have become day 2, and that doesn't help us even get a clue as to who may be scum. But in any case, anyone have any suspicions yet? I know we only have 2 pages of talk , and very little substance, but we're already a third of the way through the day.

I am totally copying and pasting this into future M&P games. Succinct, takes care of a lot of the "helpful townie" BS (BCS, WCS, TMDI comment, comment about not helping scum, and a quick plug for a Day 1 lynch), and sounds 100% authentic townie.

Well, totally copying and pasting unless he is scum... Never trust a 100% authentic townie.

Vote Eldat Pressen

Okay - so the vote was originally for being 'too townie.' You basically tell him that you love his post, then turn around and vote for him, because you love his post. I get the point you're making, and you're not wrong in saying that it's a way to come off as a smooth townie, so let's have a look at what else Eldat has said/done since you put a vote on him...

 Eldat Pressen, on 21 January 2014 - 02:16 PM, said:

Speaking of names, who the hell was eldat pressen?

 Eldat Pressen, on 21 January 2014 - 03:22 PM, said:

I'm here for a while, will drop a vote somewhere before I leave.

So... completely ignoring your vote...

 Eldat Pressen, on 21 January 2014 - 03:37 PM, said:

@Rikktet: good point about modkill .

PS: Do modkills give CF's?

CFs are never given on modkills, and this isn't a new rule. Don't think there's anyone on the signup list who wouldn't know that, or at least everyone SHOULD know that as it's far from being a new rule.

 Eldat Pressen, on 21 January 2014 - 07:08 PM, said:

Im sorta here, not particularly attentive right now though.

My main problem with voting for Rikkter is that hes not here to defend himself, so it seems a bit opportunistic to attack him now. But, should no new options present themselves A lynch is better than a no lynch, and Rikkter witholding his vote seems like he's trying to lay as low as possible. So when time gets short Ill likely add my vote on to him.

As I've said, the above is my main issue with the Rikkter 'case,' but again this is regular smooth townie talk, so he could just be hiding in plain sight.

Given that Eldat has not responded to your vote in any way, and has, in fact, just completely ignored it, I'm willing to

vote Eldat Pressen

At least until he gives me a reason not to.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 5 hours and 48 minutes remaining

14 Players still alive: Ampelas, Aparal Forge, Eldat Pressen, Emurlahnis, Hentos Ilm, Iparth Erule, Kadagar Fant, Karatallid, Kilava, Okaros, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Silchas Ruin, Skintick

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Eldat Pressen ( Skintick, Ampelas )
1 Vote for Hentos Ilm ( Kilava )
2 Votes for Rikkter ( Iparth Erule, Prazec Goul )
1 Vote for Kilava ( Silchas Ruin )

Players not voted: Aparal Forge, Eldat Pressen, Emurlahnis, Hentos Ilm, Kadagar Fant, Karatallid, Okaros, Rikkter

[Iparth Erule]

I'm not going to be around for timeout.
remove vote
Vote Eldat Pressen

I would agree that a player should have a chance to defend themselves and Eldat could have addressed your concerns but he never.

[Iparth Erule]

Vote Eldat Pressen

[Iparth Erule]

We don't have the best day one cases. Anyone find it funny that when someone garners two votes ie rikky that kilava threw another vote out there?

[Iparth Erule]

Oh and I would much rather get a lynch than timeout but no-one seemed to want to vote rikky. I'm hoping we at least get the lynch. I may be back in one hour to respond.

[Kilava]

 Iparth Erule, on 21 January 2014 - 09:56 PM, said:

We don't have the best day one cases. Anyone find it funny that when someone garners two votes ie rikky that kilava threw another vote out there?

I for one find it extremely fishy.

Or, you know, I just happened to be around at the same time, rather than being a symp getting panicky over a second vote, which is what I believe you may be insinuating.

I'm here until probably timeout. I'll have a look over again - at the moment I find neither front runner particularly engaging as a lynch target.

[Karatallid]

 Kadagar Fant, on 21 January 2014 - 01:22 PM, said:

Where the hell did all these new wacky alts come from? "Rikkter"? "Iparth Erule"? and myself, Kadagar Fant? Fant?
Please refer to me as Kadavar Fart from now on.

Anyways, I am here and you will all respect me.

I pondered if this could be Kadagar as symp trying to signal his team, but Iparth was voting for Rikkter before switching.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 4 hours and 54 minutes remaining

14 Players still alive: Ampelas, Aparal Forge, Eldat Pressen, Emurlahnis, Hentos Ilm, Iparth Erule, Kadagar Fant, Karatallid, Kilava, Okaros, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Silchas Ruin, Skintick

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Eldat Pressen ( Skintick, Ampelas, Iparth Erule )
1 Vote for Hentos Ilm ( Kilava )
1 Vote for Rikkter ( Prazec Goul )
1 Vote for Kilava ( Silchas Ruin )

Players not voted: Aparal Forge, Eldat Pressen, Emurlahnis, Hentos Ilm, Kadagar Fant, Karatallid, Okaros, Rikkter

[Okaros]

checning in. saving thread to read on next leg. i,ll post thoughts in a few hours

[Ampelas]

 Karatallid, on 21 January 2014 - 10:03 PM, said:

 Kadagar Fant, on 21 January 2014 - 01:22 PM, said:

Where the hell did all these new wacky alts come from? "Rikkter"? "Iparth Erule"? and myself, Kadagar Fant? Fant?
Please refer to me as Kadavar Fart from now on.

Anyways, I am here and you will all respect me.

I pondered if this could be Kadagar as symp trying to signal his team, but Iparth was voting for Rikkter before switching.

That's actually an interesting idea. There are a few possible solutions to why Iparth would be voting for Rikkter regardless of them being teammates, one being that he was trying right away to disconnect himself from Rikkter, secondly that maybe the killers don't know each other (though I doubt this).

[Kilava]

So, reading through:

 Skintick, on 20 January 2014 - 06:00 PM, said:

So yet another game with PS on the killer's side, ordaining them and all. Another crazy Santa in the making.

That show reminds me of Minority Report.

What have we here? Refers to only one killer, when we know there are two. Is this:

- Because they are totally inno and haven't paid attention to the number of scum?

- Because they are one of the killers themselves and focusing on that?

- Because they don't know how to use apostrophes properly?

[Kilava]

 Eldat Pressen, on 21 January 2014 - 03:37 AM, said:

Checking in, whats up people?

 Emurlahnis, on 21 January 2014 - 04:19 AM, said:

 Ampelas, on 20 January 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

 Emurlahnis, on 20 January 2014 - 06:07 PM, said:

Person of interest, great show.

Checking in, will be in again in once we get more activity in here.

At first I didn't really like the actor that plays Reese, but he's grown on me. And I squee'd a little when Veronica Mars' dad showed up.

The guy acting as Reese has always been the count of monte christo for me with military training bought with his piratey millions.

Haven't got into season 2 as much. Not sure why but it feels a little off the pace

Also Whatup!

Signalling? Eldat says 'what's up', and a post later Emurlahnis also says 'Whatup' with an unnecessary capitalisation which makes it stand out more.

[Skintick]

 Kilava, on 21 January 2014 - 11:24 PM, said:

So, reading through:

 Skintick, on 20 January 2014 - 06:00 PM, said:

So yet another game with PS on the killer's side, ordaining them and all. Another crazy Santa in the making.

That show reminds me of Minority Report.

What have we here? Refers to only one killer, when we know there are two. Is this:

- Because they are totally inno and haven't paid attention to the number of scum?

- Because they are one of the killers themselves and focusing on that?

- Because they don't know how to use apostrophes properly?

It's like comma-gate all over again.... Try door number three.

[Kilava]

 Skintick, on 21 January 2014 - 11:45 PM, said:

 Kilava, on 21 January 2014 - 11:24 PM, said:

So, reading through:

 Skintick, on 20 January 2014 - 06:00 PM, said:

So yet another game with PS on the killer's side, ordaining them and all. Another crazy Santa in the making.

That show reminds me of Minority Report.

What have we here? Refers to only one killer, when we know there are two. Is this:

- Because they are totally inno and haven't paid attention to the number of scum?

- Because they are one of the killers themselves and focusing on that?

- Because they don't know how to use apostrophes properly?

It's like comma-gate all over again.... Try door number three.

Perhaps I should have included a tongue-in-cheek smiley?

[Kilava]

 Iparth Erule, on 21 January 2014 - 04:38 PM, said:

I think the consensus amongst town players is a lynch is better than no lynch. I don't like to play for modkill. Either that person posts and is involved or they do not. The modkill on day one should not affect us trying for a lynch even with how tenuous that lynch may be. I do agree that there isn't much to go off, more than likely everyone is looking for the scapegoat, the person to make a mistake, or they do not want to be the first to push the boat out.

Remove Vote

Vote Rikkter

Easiest vote I ever did. Town suggesting we don't lynch and telling us he is not going to vote. Good way to stagnate a thread, we more than likely need everyone to vote to get a lynch, or be active and participate to find scum. So yeah Rikky go stand on that fence and not vote because you're worried about modkill on the first fucking day.

I think my vote right now would go here, on Iparth Erule. Ironic that they call it the easiest vote they've ever placed. Easiest for different reasons to the ones Iparth gives, maybe - an easy target, pouncing on someone who's both away and has an opinion which would be unpopular amongst the majority.

However, I don't think now is the time to start another train, unfortunately.

[Skintick]

 Kilava, on 21 January 2014 - 11:56 PM, said:

 Skintick, on 21 January 2014 - 11:45 PM, said:

 Kilava, on 21 January 2014 - 11:24 PM, said:

So, reading through:

 Skintick, on 20 January 2014 - 06:00 PM, said:

So yet another game with PS on the killer's side, ordaining them and all. Another crazy Santa in the making.

That show reminds me of Minority Report.

What have we here? Refers to only one killer, when we know there are two. Is this:

- Because they are totally inno and haven't paid attention to the number of scum?

- Because they are one of the killers themselves and focusing on that?

- Because they don't know how to use apostrophes properly?

It's like comma-gate all over again.... Try door number three.

Perhaps I should have included a tongue-in-cheek smiley?

Perhaps indeed. I'd say batting average for the last two posts was 0 for 2.

[Kilava]

 Skintick, on 21 January 2014 - 11:45 PM, said:

 Kilava, on 21 January 2014 - 11:24 PM, said:

So, reading through:

 Skintick, on 20 January 2014 - 06:00 PM, said:

So yet another game with PS on the killer's side, ordaining them and all. Another crazy Santa in the making.

That show reminds me of Minority Report.

What have we here? Refers to only one killer, when we know there are two. Is this:

- Because they are totally inno and haven't paid attention to the number of scum?

- Because they are one of the killers themselves and focusing on that?

- Because they don't know how to use apostrophes properly?

It's like comma-gate all over again.... Try door number three.

Heh, I just realised...so you're saying it's not door number one - total inno? Eeenteresting