[Eldat Pressen]

@Rikktet: good point about modkill .

PS: Do modkills give CF's?

[Path-Shaper]

Eldat Pressen, on 21 January 2014 - 03:37 PM, said:

@Rikktet: good point about modkill .

PS: Do modkills give CF's?

You'll get the player, no alignment however.

[Emurlahnis]

I'm just following up on some speculation. I think Skinticks 'never trust a 100% authentic overview' conspiracy had merit. The overview from Eldat Pressen was helpful but could be an attempt to curry favor in towns good books. Anyways think I'm looking at this exchange for my day 1 vote. Hope to get more from either one of you two.

[Prazec Goul]

Hmm, well then a vote for Okaros might be a waste, unless we really need to know his role. I usually tend to vote for the quiet players that are keeping low. That said, quiet players are usually more suspicious by the second day when they've had plenty of opportunity to post. I'll swing in at lunch and do a detailed reading, maybe look for a symp case. But let's be honest, has there ever been a decent symp case day 1 (I cannot recall any)?

[Ampelas]

Prazec Goul, on 21 January 2014 - 04:13 PM, said:

Hmm, well then a vote for Okaros might be a waste, unless we really need to know his role. I usually tend to vote for the quiet players that are keeping low. That said, quiet players are usually more suspicious by the second day when they've had plenty of opportunity to post. I'll swing in at lunch and do a detailed reading, maybe look for a symp case. But let's be honest, has there ever been a decent symp case day 1 (I cannot recall any)?

Usually someone brings up a really obscure 'possible' signalling case... But really, whether we have a good case or not, I still think it's important that we lynch on Day 1. And I think it would be nicer to get a CF by lynching someone rather than no CF by letting him/her be modkilled. That being said, given they're spending zero time actually interacting with the thread, we get very little other information from lynching them - so if we can find something with some substance to it, then I'd rather lynch that person.

[Iparth Erule]

I think the consensus amongst town players is a lynch is better than no lynch. I don't like to play for modkill. Either that person posts and is involved or they do not. The modkill on day one should not affect us trying for a lynch even with how tenuous that lynch may be. I do agree that there isn't much to go off, more than likely everyone is looking for the scapegoat, the person to make a mistake, or they do not want to be the first to push the boat out.

Remove Vote

Vote Rikkter

Easiest vote I ever did. Town suggesting we don't lynch and telling us he is not going to vote. Good way to stagnate a thread, we more than likely need everyone to vote to get a lynch, or be active and participate to find scum. So yeah Rikky go stand on that fence and not vote because you're worried about modkill on the first fucking day.

[Prazec Goul]

Emurlahnis, on 21 January 2014 - 04:04 PM, said:

I'm just following up on some speculation. I think Skinticks 'never trust a 100% authentic overview' conspiracy had merit. The overview from Eldat Pressen was helpful but could be an attempt to curry favor in towns good books. Anyways think I'm looking at this exchange for my day 1 vote. Hope to get more from either one of you two.

It's one of those theories that has no physical evidence backing it in the context of this game alone, but it does feels right. It might have something to do with that post essentially being the first serious post of the game though. I usually put these players on a watch list for later on.

Apparently I suck at looking for signalling. One second I'm convinced the discussion on tv shows is just that, then I suspect that there's some sort of connection between anyone who agrees, then I realize that I'm stupid and back to square one. Maybe there's something to Kadagar Fant's list of names, and Amp's enthusiasm for it? But I doubt it. Amp's right, symp cases are pretty damn obscure at this point.

I'm leaning more toward voting for a quiet player at this point. Okaros might be hit one way or another, but it comes down to getting at least some information with a lynch. Karatallid has basically just popped in to say he's around, but otherwise hasn't contributed anything. Kilava's in a similar boat I think.

[Prazec Goul]

Rikkter seemed pretty confident that there would be enough of us to get a lynch without his participation. We do only have roughly ten hours though. I'm not sure how our timezones align, but I'm not sure ten hours is enough for everyone to see the thread, let alone bother to participate.

[Iparth Erule]

Prazec Goul, on 21 January 2014 - 04:46 PM, said:

Rikkter seemed pretty confident that there would be enough of us to get a lynch without his participation. We do only have roughly ten hours though. I'm not sure how our timezones align, but I'm not sure ten hours is enough for everyone to see the thread, let alone bother to participate.

I am sure Rikky can answer for himself.

[Iparth Erule]

I am sorry but 14 players and 3 scum. Take a "town's" vote away and your left with a bigger scum influence on thread. Yes it's day one but he doesn't care whether or not we try and lynch scum. So day two starts like someone else said. In the same state as day one but with a little wifom in there from the night kill. I would prefer a lynch of a player today with no other influence on proeceedings. Modkill or no modkill. That's my stance. How is it okay to not want to vote to lynch? When did this become standard practice in our games of mafia. Oh the case will be shit so I won't vote. The lynch will be shit so I won't vote. Nah, he is keeping my vote. I would like others to help me out and lynch that player, strike fear into those who don't won't to lynch day one. If it isn't him then I am all ears. I will be back to vote later (fingers crossed)

[Prazec Goul]

Rikkter, on 21 January 2014 - 03:08 PM, said:

Since I have a concert tonight and when back, I'll be off to bed, I don't count on being ever present and probably will not be there during deadlines.

Iparth Erule, on 21 January 2014 - 05:23 PM, said:

I am sure Rikky can answer for himself.

Really?

[Karatallid]

Prazec Goul, on 21 January 2014 - 04:42 PM, said:

Emurlahnis, on 21 January 2014 - 04:04 PM, said:

I'm just following up on some speculation. I think Skinticks 'never trust a 100% authentic overview' conspiracy had merit. The overview from Eldat Pressen was helpful but could be an attempt to curry favor in towns good books. Anyways think I'm looking at this exchange for my day 1 vote. Hope to get more from either one of you two.

It's one of those theories that has no physical evidence backing it in the context of this game alone, but it does feels right. It might have something to do with that post essentially being the first serious post of the game though. I usually put these players on a watch list for later on.

Apparently I suck at looking for signalling. One second I'm convinced the discussion on tv shows is just that, then I suspect that there's some sort of connection between anyone who agrees, then I realize that I'm stupid and back to square one. Maybe there's something to Kadagar Fant's list of names, and Amp's enthusiasm for it? But I doubt it. Amp's right, symp cases are pretty damn obscure at this point.

I'm leaning more toward voting for a quiet player at this point. Okaros might be hit one way or another, but it comes down to getting at least some information with a lynch. Karatallid has basically just popped in to say he's around, but otherwise hasn't contributed anything. Kilava's in a similar boat I think.

I don't see anything substantial enough to properly contribute yet. I'm waiting to see if something such as comes up, if not I will be around to do my part and lay a vote on who I think is best or to lend my vote to a train. Nothing pops out for me and we have 10 hours.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 9 hours and 22 minutes remaining


14 Players still alive: Ampelas, Aparal Forge, Eldat Pressen, Emurlahnis, Hentos Ilm, Iparth Erule, Kadagar Fant, Karatallid, Kilava, Okaros, Prazec Goul, Rikkter, Silchas Ruin, Skintick

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Eldat Pressen ( Skintick )
1 Vote for Kilava ( Silchas Ruin )
1 Vote for Rikkter ( Iparth Erule )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Aparal Forge, Eldat Pressen, Emurlahnis, Hentos Ilm, Kadagar Fant, Karatallid, Kilava, Okaros, Prazec Goul, Rikkter

[Kilava]

Silchas Ruin, on 21 January 2014 - 02:27 PM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 21 January 2014 - 01:22 PM, said:

Where the hell did all these new wacky alts come from? "Rikkter"? "Iparth Erule"? and myself, Kadagar Fant? Fant?
Please refer to me as Kadavar Fart from now on.

Anyways, I am here and you will all respect me.

I honestly don't remember Rikkter.

Anyway,
Looks like Okaros is the only one who hasn't checked in, yes?

To add to the 'votes for shitty reasons' I'm going to vote
[b]Kilava[/v]
for admitting to liking Veronica Mars.

Hey now, I'm not ashamed of my Mars fandom - the show is pure gold. And you can't go wrong with a Dandy Warhols opening theme.

[Prazec Goul]

Heading out for a few hours. Erule's vote makes sense. That's where I'm dropping mine until I get back.

Vote Rikkter


Based on his post, I'm not sure Rikkter will show up to defend himself -- though he already explained why he didn't place a vote. I wasn't entirely convinced, especially since I don't see nine hours as quite enough time for everyone in game to show up and secure a lynch. I'll be around well before day's end.

[Kilava]

If we've got to do the let's place votes stage, then I submit:

Hentos Ilm, on 20 January 2014 - 11:34 PM, said:

Checking in

why is everyone squeeing? have I joined a brony convention?

Hentos' only post. Likes to ask questions. Likes to get others to do the digging. Doesn't stick around to have his questions answered. Doesn't push to have his questions answered. So they're only there to seem like a contribution, whereas in fact they go nowhere. Thus.

Vote Hentos Ilm

[Eldat Pressen]

Im sorta here, not particularly attentive right now though.

My main problem with voting for Rikkter is that hes not here to defend himself, so it seems a bit opportunistic to attack him now. But, should no new options present themselves A lynch is better than a no lynch, and Rikkter witholding his vote seems like he's trying to lay as low as possible. So when time gets short Ill likely add my vote on to him.

[Ampelas]

Eldat Pressen, on 21 January 2014 - 07:08 PM, said:

Im sorta here, not particularly attentive right now though.

My main problem with voting for Rikkter is that hes not here to defend himself, so it seems a bit opportunistic to attack him now. But, should no new options present themselves A lynch is better than a no lynch, and Rikkter witholding his vote seems like he's trying to lay as low as possible. So when time gets short Ill likely add my vote on to him.

This is my problem with a Rikkter vote too. If he's not around to defend himself, or have a meltdown, or something like that, voting him out could be just as useless as voting out Okaros information-wise. I'll be around until time out, though, so I'll keep an eye on where things are and add my vote to the likely lynch candidate. A lynch with little info would still be more useful to us than a no lynch, at any rate.

In response to Kilava's vote - I wouldn't be against voting for Hentos Ilm, but my stance on a vote for him is around the same as a vote for Rikkter - hopefully the pressure from Kilava's vote will bring him out of the woodwork to give us a bit more information to work with.

[Skintick]

Eldat Pressen, on 21 January 2014 - 07:08 PM, said:

Im sorta here, not particularly attentive right now though.

My main problem with voting for Rikkter is that hes not here to defend himself, so it seems a bit opportunistic to attack him now. But, should no new options present themselves A lynch is better than a no lynch, and Rikkter witholding his vote seems like he's trying to lay as low as possible. So when time gets short Ill likely add my vote on to him.

No response to my vote in him... Interesting. Lynch better than no lynch party-line, check. Why now not particularly attentive? Stab a being nonchalant is my guess.

I doubt rikker is scum. Stupid townie move in classic technicolor with the token sheep following lynch and hedging that we'd expect from day 1. No one wants to lynch a good townie persona just yet, and that is one of the bad moves we always make.

Vote remains where it is.

[Skintick]

Iparth Erule, on 21 January 2014 - 04:38 PM, said:

I think the consensus amongst town players is a lynch is better than no lynch. I don't like to play for modkill. Either that person posts and is involved or they do not. The modkill on day one should not affect us trying for a lynch even with how tenuous that lynch may be. I do agree that there isn't much to go off, more than likely everyone is looking for the scapegoat, the person to make a mistake, or they do not want to be the first to push the boat out.

Remove Vote

Vote Rikkter

Easiest vote I ever did. Town suggesting we don't lynch and telling us he is not going to vote. Good way to stagnate a thread, we more than likely need everyone to vote to get a lynch, or be active and participate to find scum. So yeah Rikky go stand on that fence and not vote because you're worried about modkill on the first fucking day.

Great way to stagnate town, if town is already stagnated that is. Easiest vote? Sounds like laziest vote to me, but whateves. Free country and all.