[Gnaw]

Cool thanks.

IH would it be ok if I grabbed one of those discoveries? Vega. I'd give it back to you next turn.

[Imperial Historian]

Do you think that is worth it? We're both so move strapped I don't think it's worth the influence action for me to get it back (it's not a great hex). I'm not even sure I'll leave that cruiser around so i can grab the hex before moving against twelve as I probably can't afford to leave it there. So basically I'm saying if you take that hex you can keep it, I doubt I'll be hanging around for it.

Personally I think hitting Khell now while he is weak makes more sense though. Wasting two move actions doesn't seem worthwhile longterm. Presumably it's to balance the point totals in case I decide to bail out of the alliance? I think that's unlikely with the current board position (add tatts and you to my foes and I'll be utterly swamped). I'm happy for you to balance point totals if you want, but I think hitting Khell now while he is on the ropes is the better move (especially if you grab some production hexes).

[Imperial Historian]

I'm not even 100% sure you should be making a move looking at the board again. You are stretched thin at the moment, you are really close to bankruptcy. If you make another move d'rek can force you into bankruptcy.

[Imperial Historian]

Yeah if that board is right you should DEFINITELY not make a move

[twelve]

Didn't Khell move his INT into your homeworld Gnaw? Also, I don't remember you building an INT there either but if truth be told I haven't really been paying too much attention to the rest of the board because of my current situation.

[Gnaw]

It's right except for Khell's interceptor being in the empty hex instead of my homeworld.

Here's what I was thinking:

move my interceptor from homeworld to 108. (It works better than Vega for what I want.) Move interceptor from pi phiscium to D'rek's homeworld. -25 upkeep.

Influence: move disc from homeworld to 108. Colonize money in grey and science. Flip ships. Pull disc from elsewhere to track. -25 again.

D'rek has lots of moves. But she can't ignore my ship in her homeworld.


Edit: or just remove the disc from my homeworld period. But that limits my colonies post combat.

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 06 December 2013 - 12:06 AM

[Imperial Historian]

I really don't think that is a good idea. The maths just doesn't add up. If you do that you have -25 with an income of 15, even assuming the hexes you want to be nuked get nuked (by no means guaranteed), you just don't have the money and discs to do that.

[Gnaw]

grr, you're the brains of this op. But unless there are some ridiculously bad rolls I'm guaranteed to lose 105.

Pass.

[Galactic Council]

Round 5 Action Phase

Turn 1

Spoiler

Tatts: Research positron computer -5 == 1 left (these notes are mostly for my use. They show what my board reflects.)

Gnaw the indecisive

• Research nanorobots -2 == 6 left
• $0, Sci 6, Ma 13

Twelve

• Research Tractorbeam cost 2 science. Put it on the top row -2 == 8 left
  (4$,8S,10M Upkeep -2)

IH

• Research starbases -3 == 0 left
• £3 S0 M11 Upkeep -2

Morgoth

• Research - positron computers and distortion shield(placed on top track). -11 == 2 left
• This leaves me at
• $ 2
• S 2
• M 11
• Upkeep - 7

CF Research antimatter cannons. -13 == 2 left


Tapper Research Antimatter Cannons. Flip as many colony ships (1 or 2) as required to pay for it. -9 == 0 no ships used

Khell - INFLUENCE Lambda Aurigae and Zeta Chamaeleontis. Colonise money and science planets on Lambda Aurigae.

D'rek - Provisional research advanced robotics -4 == 14 left

Turn 2

Spoiler

Tatts - Upgrade

• swap computer on cruiser for pos comp.
• upgrade dread with improved hull over drive

Gnaw research advanced robotics -5 == 1 left

Twelve- Research Tachyon Source -6 science == 2 left

IH Build dreadnought and cruiser, in the hex next to the hive world and the warp portal. -11 mats == 0 left

Morgoth Upgrade - Add Positron computer over electron computer on cruiser, and over electron computer on the starbase.

CF

My upkeep discs aren't right. My board shows AM cannons, but there is no disc on research. Thanks! fixed
RESEARCH - Advanced robotics. Convert 4 money to 2 science -$4 and -2 sci == $1 and 0 sci left

Tapper - Use Pulsar upgrade: put a 6-energy source on the fighter instead of its current 3.


Khell - MOVE Dreadnaught from Lambda Aurigae to Zeta Andromedae.

D'rek - Research Quantum Grid -14 sci == 2 left

Turn 3

Spoiler

Tatts Build Dread and cruiser in Iota Bootus hex 213. - 13 materials == 1 left

Gnaw Influence action

• influence delta eridani colonize sci
• move disc from mu cassiopeia to delta corvi return grey planet cube to mats
• colonize money in delta corvi
• flip colony ships face up
• -10 -7 upkeep $0, S 1, Ma13

Twelve Sent Today, 10:42 AM

• Upgrade Dreadnaught blueprint
• Place Tachyon source over default source
• Place plasma cannons over blank slot
• (4$, 2S, 10M Upkeep -5)

IH - "Let us crush those we are able now whilst we remain strong, MOVE the dreadnought from 101 to zeta chameleonis"

Morgoth - Upgrade – add fusion source and plasma cannon over both hulls on Starbase schematic.

CF - UPGRADE - Starbases. Source over single hull, AM cannon over ion cannon

• Directorate Economic Summary
• Upkeep -5
• Bank 1
• Science 0
• Materials 6
  

Tapper - upgrade fighter with Antimatter Cannon over Ion Cannon & with +2 computer over the other Ion Cannon, please

Khell - MOVE Dreadnaught to Sigma Sagitarii.

D'rek - Upgrade: Cover the top Ion Cannon of my Interceptor blueprint with Improved Hull. Place an Improved Hull in the empty slot of my Cruiser blueprint

Turn 4

Spoiler

Tatts - Upgrade Ion cannon over single hull on dread. Pos computer over computer

Gnaw - Build 3 interceptors. -9 mats == 4 left

• 2 in the warp portal (281) and 1 in 209.
• -10 upkeep. $0, Sc 1, M 4

Twelve - Influence

• Move the disk from 318 to 304 return 1 science 1 material 1 money
• Move disk from player board to 318
• deploy colony ship to 304 material slot
• deploy 2 colony ships to 318 settle adv material and grey as material
• Reset 2 colony ships
• Redeploy 1 to 318 and settle orbital with money
• Incomes should be 8 money, 6 science, 8 materials
• (4$, 2S, 10M Upkeep -10)

IH - Ok move dreadnought from hive to 108 and cruiser from twelves homeworld to vega

Morgoth - Pass 1st of round

CF - Pass 2nd of round

Tapper - Build 2 interceptors in 102. -6 mats == 5 left

Khell - INFLUENCE.

• Influence Sigma Sagitarii. Also remove disc from Lambda Serpentis, and place it on Zeta Andromedae.
• Return materials and science cubes back to research track.
• Flip two colony ships back up.
• -17

D'rek - Provisional - Build 2 interceptors in Beta Lyrae and 1 in Geminga -9 mats == 1 left

Turn 5

Spoiler

Tatts - Move cruiser and dread to destroy khell.

Gnaw - Move

• Int from Beta Corvi to IH's homeworld
• Int from Delta Eridani to Khell's homeworld

Twelve - Pass

IH - MOVE

• cruiser from 101 to 105 and
• cruiser from twelves ex-homeworld to 304.

Morgoth - no reaction

CF - BUILD -

• Orbital, populate with science. EDIT - woops...build in Procyon sector. Sorry bout that. -5 mats == 1 right
  
• Directorate Production Summary
• Money + 10
• Science + 18
• Materials + 6
• Directorate Economic Summary
• Upkeep -7
• Bank 1
• Science 0
• Materials 1

Tapper - provisionally build 2 more fighters, flipping a colony ship for mats -5 mats == 0 left

Khell

• Colonise money planet at Sigma Sagitarii. Colonise orbital in Zeta Chamaeleontis with money cube.
• BUILD 1 Interceptor in Zeta Andromedae. -3 mats == 2 wrongs don't make a right.
  

D'rek - Pulsar - MOV - Interceptor from Geminga to 51 Cygni

Turn 6


Tatts -

• Upgrade cruiser. Replace neuton drive with ion cannon.
• Replace improved hull with positron computer on dread. Then positron over ion cannon on dread.

Gnaw - Build -

• int in my homeworld -3 mats == 1 left
  
• -17 upkeep. $0, Sci 1, Ma 1.
  

Twelve - Pass

IH - Pass

Morgoth - react move - cruiser to 105

CF - I confirm pass unless i am attacked

Tapper - move 2 fighters to the Galactic Centre from 102 (3 remaining there)

Khell - MOVE

• Interceptor from Zeta Andromedae to Sigma Draconis.
• Colonise materials planet at Zeta Chamaeleontis.

D'rek - MOVe - Interceptor from Beta Lyrae to Aldebaran


Turn 7


Tatts = Pass -21 upkeep

Gnaw - MOVe - Interceptor from Aldebaran to Phi Piscium -21 upkeep

Twelve - Pass -10 upkeep

IH - Sorry im not reacting. Assume I'm not going to for immediate future. -7 upkeep

Morgoth - Skipped -17 upkeep

CF - I confirm pass unless i am attacked -7 upkeep

Tapper - Move 2 fighters to GCDS. ASSUMED -13 upkeep

Khell

• INFLUENCE. Remove disc from Zeta Andromedae. Place it on Lambda Serpentis (warp portal hex). Flip two colony ships back up. -30 upkeep
  
• Colonise material and science planets.

D'rek - MOVe - Interceptor from Beta Lyrae to Delta Eridani and Interceptor from Lambda Tauri to Rigel. -7 upkeep


Turn 8


Tatts - Move cruiser in 307? Sigma Sagliatari to gnaws home world.

Gnaw - Pass

Twelve - still passing?

IH -

Morgoth

CF

Tapper

Khell

D'rek
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[Galactic Council]

I'm not certain we're safe doing another skip over Morgy. If he uses turn 7 to move that other cruiser it would affect my turn 8 pass and whatever IH is doing turn 8.

[Imperial Historian]

 Gnaw, on 06 December 2013 - 12:25 AM, said:

grr, you're the brains of this op. But unless there are some ridiculously bad rolls I'm guaranteed to lose 105.

Pass.

Yeah I've been assuming you lose 105 (though a particularly diobolical strategy if you do another move could be for Morgoth to retreat and d'rek to get out of your hexes, at which point a bankruptcy chain would cripple you)

You probably will have enough money for a move left over (though you can use this to hold on to an extra hex you take), but if you make another move I'm pretty sure d'rek would move to make sure you bankrupted, it's what I would do.

[Gnaw]

 Imperial Historian, on 06 December 2013 - 12:32 AM, said:

 Gnaw, on 06 December 2013 - 12:25 AM, said:

grr, you're the brains of this op. But unless there are some ridiculously bad rolls I'm guaranteed to lose 105.

Pass.

Yeah I've been assuming you lose 105 (though a particularly diobolical strategy if you do another move could be for Morgoth to retreat and d'rek to get out of your hexes, at which point a bankruptcy chain would cripple you)

You probably will have enough money for a move left over (though you can use this to hold on to an extra hex you take), but if you make another move I'm pretty sure d'rek would move to make sure you bankrupted, it's what I would do.

I know. I can also see her moving her interceptors into 108. Which is another reason I would have liked to cap it.

[Gnaw]

And I really, really don't like that idea.

Withdraw Pass.

Want to think on this some more.

[Imperial Historian]

If she moves into 108 I'll crush her. Anyway I'm off to bed, please still be alive when I wake up. I'm pretty sure any move you make is going to be worse for you in the long term, but you do love making moves, and i can never predict what you are going to do. Since this would terrify me if I was playing you, I'll let you decide.

But seriously don't move. Maybe a reaction if you absolutely have too

[Galactic Council]

I'm obviously biased. Twelve hadn't confirmed a no reaction but it's fairly obvious that is what he is going to do.

So if anyone wants to say that I can't change my move because of that I'll stand on the Pass order.

[twelve]

Well if you tell me my odds of betting IH's Cruiser with my current Dread blueprint is better than 60% and be truthful in that statement I may react but if it's not then confirm pass again

[Gnaw]

 twelve, on 06 December 2013 - 01:21 AM, said:

Well if you tell me my odds of betting IH's Cruiser with my current Dread blueprint is better than 60% and be truthful in that statement I may react but if it's not then confirm pass again

I can truthfully say that your odds of beating his cruiser with your current blueprint is 100%.

[Gnaw]

That is assuming he retreats. But you didn't say that I couldn't make assumptions.

[twelve]

 Gnaw, on 06 December 2013 - 01:33 AM, said:

That is assuming he retreats. But you didn't say that I couldn't make assumptions.

touche

[Morgoth]

I confirm pass for round 7.

So, Gnaw, have you decided to pass or not this round?