[Tattersail_]

D, on 06 November 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:

Ganoes Paran, on 06 November 2013 - 03:06 PM, said:

D, on 06 November 2013 - 03:02 PM, said:

Gnaw, you have in the action summary list that for your Turn 2 you "Move influence disc from 201 to Castor" but you didn't have a disc in 201 (that is one of Morgoth's hexes) - where did the disc move from?

281 I think, Delta Corvi.

Ah ok, that makes sense.

Yeah confused me too, but they are right next to each other and sometimes people mistake 0 and 8's.

[Tapper]

Upkeep:

1 money, 4 mats, 4 science,
-7 upkeep,
+10 money, +6 science and +6 mats means

Start turn 3:
4 money, 10 science, 10 mats by this count.

[D'rek]

So, Monsieur Tapper and Sir Khelleaf, shall we take the GC this upcoming round? Looks like it'd be fairly easy for us this round, while Gnaw+Tatts+IH seem to still have a few issues and obstacles to work out before they can take a shot at it.

[Tapper]

D, on 06 November 2013 - 03:17 PM, said:

So, Monsieur Tapper and Sir Khelleaf, shall we take the GC this upcoming round? Looks like it'd be fairly easy for us this round, while Gnaw+Tatts+IH seem to still have a few issues and obstacles to work out before they can take a shot at it.

We definately could, if we can get all the ships in place in time.
I was considering an attack on the double ancient in Arcturus for the discovery tile and solid moneys, but this would work, too.

[D'rek]

Tapper, on 06 November 2013 - 03:26 PM, said:

D, on 06 November 2013 - 03:17 PM, said:

So, Monsieur Tapper and Sir Khelleaf, shall we take the GC this upcoming round? Looks like it'd be fairly easy for us this round, while Gnaw+Tatts+IH seem to still have a few issues and obstacles to work out before they can take a shot at it.

We definately could, if we can get all the ships in place in time.
I was considering an attack on the double ancient in Arcturus for the discovery tile and solid moneys, but this would work, too.

All interceptors would probably be the best option, given the GC's layout. Computer are useless, and so is hull unless you can get to 5 HP. I have enough actions to get two interceptors in, and upgrade the IH to a second Ion Cannon on each. If you and Khell can get 4 more interceptors in we'll have good odds.

[Tattersail_]

Gnaw you have had 9 hours sleep.

[D'rek]

Ran some simulations with the web tool of interceptors with two ion cannons each vs the centre GCDS:

4 interceptors - 33% chance of victory
5 interceptors - 62%
6 interceptors - 83%
7 interceptors - 93%

Odds are much worse without the double ion cannons - only 44% for 6 interceptors - and there's not really any other upgrade that helps except shields, which we don't have. But this means we should do fine if we can put 6 interceptors versus the GCDS.

I can put two in no problem, but I don't have the materials or actions to do more. Tapper, you have materials for 3, but I'm not sure if you have enough actions for BUI+BUI+MOV+UPG (+Pulsar MOV). Similarly, Khell could put in 2 but has the farthest to go - would need to do BUI+MOV+MOV+MOV. Still, it looks very do-able for us with a very likelihood of success.

The other option is to go with heavier ships, including Tapper's aleady-built Dread. You could {a} research Positron Computers and give it tons of initiative+computer for a near-guaranteed couple hits, {b} research Improved Hull and give it 5 HP, so the ancient blows up interceptors before it (unless it gets a double 6), or {c} get Gauss Shields and put a -1 on it so that the GCDS' 5-rolls can only hit the interceptors.

I don't think it's worth trying to get Khell's dread in - too far and it'll be the first thing the GCDS blows up.

Tapper, Khell - thoughts?

[Tapper]

Hmm.
I was looking at the +money development to get the extra actions required, that would leave me with a colony ship to be used for a second fighter.

My action would be Develop +12 cash, build 2 fighters, upgrade (pulsar),, move. I could add the dread but it would die horribly on the first hit.

Let's see what science offers. If there's missiles, everything changes.

[D'rek]

Good point, flux missiles could make this a lot easier. If you put them in the middle track you could probably research both those and positron computers, and dump a bunch of both on your dread.

[D'rek]

@Gnaw - you're making Twelve feel really sad by adding the alliance members' points together instead of averaging them!

[Gnaw]

Ganoes Paran said:

1383757285[/url]' post='1095210']
Gnaw you have had 9 hours sleep.

Just now up. I turned alarm off apparently

[Gnaw]

Gnaw said:

1383764544[/url]' post='1095231']

Ganoes Paran said:

1383757285[/url]' post='1095210']
Gnaw you have had 9 hours sleep.

Just now up. I turned alarm off apparently

Give me 10 o get out to the shop

[cerveza_fiesta]

NOW DO IT NOW

[Galactic Council]

Ganoes Paran, on 06 November 2013 - 01:16 PM, said:

twelve, on 05 November 2013 - 11:30 PM, said:

Upkeep

Money 1 banked +8 income -5 Upkeep = 4 banked
Science 4 banked +3 income = 7 science
Material 8 banked +8 income = 16 materials.

Round 2 VP total: 7 (6 hexes, 0 tech, 0 Rep tiles, 0 Diplomacy tile, 0 Discovery tile, 1 Race bonus)

Khellendros, on 06 November 2013 - 12:02 AM, said:

I will not influence or colonise the hex yet. So, upkeep:

Money:

Current Amount: 4
Upkeep: -10
Income: 10
New Amount: 4


Science:

Current Amount: 5
Income: 4
New Amount: 9


Materials:

Current Amount: 0
Income: 4
New Amount: 4

Gnaw, on 06 November 2013 - 12:40 AM, said:

Colonize material planet in warp portal hex. Colonize science planet in 108.


Upkeep

• $1 in bank + $18 production = 19
• upkeep -21 bankrupt.
• remove disc from 101 Castor -17 upkeep
• $2 in bank.

Production

• 7 science in bank + 8 production = 15 science
• 3 material in bank + 4 production = 7 material

VP = 13 from hexes + 2 ambassadors + 2 alliance + 5 ancients == 22


Begin Round 3 with: -5 upkeep, $2, Sc 15, Ma 7.

Imperial Historian, on 06 November 2013 - 01:28 AM, said:

Have you done twelve's supernova roll? Tatts supernova can't explode, but twelves could if he got double 1.

I'll claim the tile, colonise both planets

Upkeep: -5
Income: 4
Bank: 1

Final totals $0(1+4-5) S:5(2+3) M:6(0+6) Upkeep=0

Morgoth, on 06 November 2013 - 07:06 AM, said:

yay! Influence and settle both planets


$ 0/+10
S 1/+8
M 0/+3

Upkeep - 10

$ 0, S 9, M 3

Gnaw, on 06 November 2013 - 07:56 AM, said:

Upkeep:

Colonize material planet in warp portal hex. Colonize science planet in 108.


Upkeep

• $1 in bank + $18 production = 19
• upkeep -21 bankrupt.
• remove disc from 101 Castor -17 upkeep
• $2 in bank.

Production

• 7 science in bank + 8 production = 15 science
• 3 material in bank + 4 production = 7 material

Ganoes Paran, on 06 November 2013 - 08:16 AM, said:

Upkeep -10,

Production

+12 money, + 4 science + 4 materials + 6 materials

New totals -

$2, S 5, M,10


(Reputation tiles can I only keep one? Keep both 3's if I can for now, if not then just one)



-10 Upkeep = 8 discs = 4 actions + 4 hexes

Bank == $0, S 1, M 0.

Production == $12 = 6 cubes = 4 planet + 1 ambassador + 1 discard

S 3 = 2 cubes = 2 planet

M 3 = 2 cubes = 2 planet

1 used 2 ambassadors free

Unbuilt ships == 8 interceptors, 3 cruisers, 1 dreads, 4 starbases

Tech == neutron bombs, Gauss shield, Nanorobots, Fusion Drive

VP = 13 = 5 from hexes + 1 ambassador + 2 from discovery + 2 from alliance + 3 from reputation.

Imperial Historian, on 06 November 2013 - 12:26 PM, said:

Well that was a screw up of a turn. I knew I should have insisted that tatts did the influence/explore.

New upkeep 0 £1 S5 P4

cerveza_fiesta, on 06 November 2013 - 12:51 PM, said:

========================================================================================
SUBSPACE TRANSMISSION >>RELAY VIA >> FORMAHAUT DIRECTIONAL TRANSMITTER >> PROCYON ARRAY
========================================================================================


Destination - Old Earth, Office of the Supreme Director
Origin - Formahaut, Office of Subdirector Prandtl
Subject - Critical intelligence
Classification - Confidential, encrypted, SD eyes-only
Language - English
Stardate - 2013-11-06:08:35

We have intercepted and decrypted a subspace transmission to Formahaut. It appears the origin is Old Earth and that some faction there means you harm. Message follows:


========================================================

Destination - Formahaut, ==[LOCAL DESTINATION UNKNOWN]==
Origin - Old Earth, ==[LOCAL ORIGIN UNKNOWN]==
Subject - We must act!
Classification - Confidential, encrypted
Language - English
Stardate - 2013-11-06:08:30


Friends, you all see as well as we do here on Earth that the SD is out of control. He pays lip-service to the military by researching a faster drive, shares Earth's secrets with a dangerously intelligent alien race, and for some reason insists on maintaining diplomatic ties with another dangerous, heavily-armed alien race. I'm all for mutually beneficial relationships but it seems like we're nothing but the Hydrans' meat-shield in this affair.


The climate is too hostile for us to rise up here on Earth - citizens of the Old Colonies adore their peace-loving hippie Supreme Director and resent our warmongering. Among the citizens of the frontier colonies however, we know that our message rings true. Continue spreading the word and we'll either force the SD to do what's right, or we'll.......


===========================================================================================
Unfortunately we could not decrypt the sign-off....

Traitors!

I have already assembled loyal members of the Formahaut Guard to mount a search and locate the recipients of this fell message. We but await your order to proceed.

Your loyal ally and subdirector,
Kelvin Prandtl.

==================
TRANSMISSION ENDS
==================


Directorate action summary

PASS UNTIL END OF ROUND UNLESS THERE IS AGGRESSION AGAINST ME

Directorate Economic Summary

END OF TURN UPKEEP

Upkeep -5
Bank 0
Science 0
Materials 7

E-production +10
S-production + 6
M-production + 4

Final


money = 5
science = 6
material = 11

thanks

[Galactic Council]

i'm the only person here now?

bah

I saw "no reactions" from Tapper and CF, so Action Phase is over. Combat phase is over.

I rolled twelve's nova. nopoint in rolling Tatts

Tech would be next then.

[Gnaw]

Tatts, IH. did you two work a plan out?

[twelve]

Gnaw, on 06 November 2013 - 07:51 PM, said:

Tatts, IH. did you two work a plan out?

Yeah it's take the center before the other guys beat us to it.

This post has been edited by twelve: 06 November 2013 - 07:54 PM

[Galactic Council]

Tech

79 in bag

Spoiler

• Gauss Shield 05
• Advanced Robotics 04
• Positron Computer 02
• Fusion Source 05
• Plasma Missile 04
• Plasma Cannon 06
• Fusion Source 04
• Fusion Drive 05
• Tachyon Source 01
• Advanced Mining 05
• Artifact Key 02
• Conifold Field
• Fusion Source 06
• Starbase 04
• Monolith 01
• Monolith 02
• Orbital 02
• Advanced Labs 02
• Plasma Cannon 03
• Advanced Economy 03
• Wormhole Generator 04
• Gluon Computer 04
• Plasma Cannon 04
• Nanorobots 05
• Neutron Absorber
• Tachyon Drive 01
• Phase Shield 04
• Antimatter Cannon 04
• Fusion Drive 04
• Nanorobots 04
• Gluon Computer 03
• Antimatter Cannon 02
• Orbital 04
• Sentient Hull
• Advanced Economy 04
• Phase Shield 03
• Improved Hull 05
• Positron Computer 03
• Advanced Robotics 06
• Neutron Bombs 05
• Interceptor Bay
• Advanced Robotics 03
• Tachyon Source 04
• Advanced Labs 03
• Artifact Key 03
• Zero-Point Source
• Quantum Grid 02
• Tachyon Source 03
• Quantum Grid 03
• Fusion Drive 03
• Tachyon Source 02
• Advanced Labs 05
• Advanced Mining 03
• Improved Hull 06
• Gauss Shield 03
• Wormhole Generator 03
• Phase Shield 05
• Advanced Economy 02
• Antimatter Cannon 01
• Advanced Economy 05
• Starbase 05
• Tachyon Drive 02
• Tractor Beam
• Advanced Robotics 02
• Flux Missile
• Quantum Grid 04
• Monolith 04
• Orbital 05
• Orbital 03
• Monolith 03
• Gauss Shield 04
• Plasma Cannon 05
• Advanced Robotics 01
• Plasma Missile 02
• Positron Computer 05
• Advanced Robotics 05
• Tachyon Drive 03
• Plasma Missile 03
• Advanced Labs 04

Spin the list:

List Randomizer
There were 79 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

Spoiler

• Quantum Grid 02
• Orbital 05
• Positron Computer 02
• Fusion Source 04
• Antimatter Cannon 04
• Phase Shield 05
• Wormhole Generator 04
• Plasma Missile 02
• Orbital 03
• Tachyon Source 02
• Advanced Robotics 03
• Sentient Hull
• Gluon Computer 04
• Nanorobots 05
• Advanced Labs 04
• Gluon Computer 03
• Plasma Missile 04
• Flux Missile
• Plasma Cannon 04
• Zero-Point Source
• Phase Shield 04
• Improved Hull 05
• Advanced Labs 05
• Monolith 03
• Orbital 02
• Tachyon Drive 01
• Artifact Key 03
• Fusion Source 06
• Gauss Shield 05
• Gauss Shield 03
• Neutron Bombs 05
• Improved Hull 06
• Interceptor Bay
• Fusion Source 05
• Advanced Robotics 05
• Advanced Mining 05
• Starbase 04
• Fusion Drive 04
• Tachyon Source 03
• Advanced Robotics 04
• Tachyon Source 01
• Quantum Grid 03
• Advanced Labs 02
• Plasma Cannon 03
• Tractor Beam
• Fusion Drive 05
• Monolith 01
• Gauss Shield 04
• Advanced Economy 04
• Fusion Drive 03
• Advanced Robotics 06
• Advanced Economy 02
• Advanced Mining 03
• Monolith 02
• Orbital 04
• Positron Computer 05
• Tachyon Drive 02
• Advanced Economy 05
• Advanced Labs 03
• Conifold Field
• Positron Computer 03
• Neutron Absorber
• Antimatter Cannon 02
• Advanced Economy 03
• Quantum Grid 04
• Wormhole Generator 03
• Starbase 05
• Phase Shield 03
• Plasma Cannon 05
• Tachyon Source 04
• Plasma Missile 03
• Advanced Robotics 01
• Artifact Key 02

Timestamp: 2013-11-06 19:56:15 UTC

Partial prredictive for Round 2

• Phase Shield 02
• Neutron Bombs 04
• Advanced Mining 04
• Starbase 03
• Neutron Bombs 03

• Monolith 04
• Advanced Robotics 02
• Nanorobots 04
• Antimatter Cannon 01
• Plasma Cannon 06
• Tachyon Drive 03

11 regular tech. 0 additional rare.

• Advanced Robotics 02
• Antimatter Cannon 01
• Monolith 04
• Nanorobots 04
• Neutron Bombs 03
• Neutron Bombs 04
• Phase Shield 02
• Phase Shield 02
• Plasma Cannon 06
• Starbase 03
• Tachyon Drive 03

This post has been edited by Galactic Council: 06 November 2013 - 08:18 PM

[Gnaw]

twelve, on 06 November 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 06 November 2013 - 07:51 PM, said:

Tatts, IH. did you two work a plan out?

Yeah it's take the center before the other guys beat us to it.

Is that an accurate assessment? At this point the only thing stopping the start of round 3 is rotation.

So you can give me straight info, I'll make the decison, and read the plan later.

Or I can read 3 pages before deciding rotation.

[twelve]

Gnaw, on 06 November 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

twelve, on 06 November 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 06 November 2013 - 07:51 PM, said:

Tatts, IH. did you two work a plan out?

Yeah it's take the center before the other guys beat us to it.

Is that an accurate assessment? At this point the only thing stopping the start of round 3 is rotation.

So you can give me straight info, I'll make the decison, and read the plan later.

Or I can read 3 pages before deciding rotation.

No they didn't make a plan. This is the plan I want you guys to follow as it doesn't involve me. And I'm confused about what tech has been drawn. Why are there two sets of 11 tech listed? I'm assuming the tech draw for round 3 is

• Phase Shield 02
• Neutron Bombs 04
• Advanced Mining 04
• Starbase 03
• Neutron Bombs 03

• Monolith 04
• Advanced Robotics 02
• Nanorobots 04
• Antimatter Cannon 01
• Plasma Cannon 06
• Tachyon Drive 03

That is what I'm going on but would like a confirmation.

Edit: And I see that you corrected the post so confustion is removed.

This post has been edited by twelve: 06 November 2013 - 08:19 PM