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[Barghast]

Okay, starting my dump:

Barghast / Denul convo Day 1

Barghast, on 26 August 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

Howdy do Denul

Denul, on 26 August 2013 - 09:38 PM, said:

Purty good. I liked the goat signalling

Barghast, on 26 August 2013 - 09:43 PM, said:

Goat signalling? I think you'll have to explain that a little more.

Denul, on 26 August 2013 - 09:50 PM, said:

If I'm wrong, then I'll feel stupid, but i'm about 75% sure you're the enginseer

Barghast, on 26 August 2013 - 09:51 PM, said:

Don't feel stupid, just explain how you came to that conclusion so that I don't feel even more stupid when I get to SH...

Denul, on 26 August 2013 - 09:52 PM, said:

It involves the words goat, gatling, a summoned creature that I acquired information about, and PS saying not to mention things from role PMs

Barghast, on 26 August 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:

Your words strike me as being quite possibly true, if you are the role you are claiming you will as a matter of course know goats are not alone, name me another creature I could summon were I the Enginseer

Denul, on 26 August 2013 - 09:56 PM, said:

A timekeeping hundredlegged bug.

Denul, on 26 August 2013 - 09:57 PM, said:

Or a play on words on a star wars robot's name.

Barghast, on 26 August 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

Okay, that proves it to me, thank you. I am indeed the Enginseer, as you are the Student of Technology. C3Peon is currently inhabiting an A series alt and has been mining some gold for me as well as taking a pot-shot or two. Do you have need of gold? I'll quiz PS if we can do an exchange if you need it. I've not yet made any Clockwork Centipedes.

The goat I took PS not saying no to me musing about doing what I did as tacit permission to do so, most certainly wasn't. Well done at totally ignoring it - I was expecting a response on thread about the ways to lead a goat more than anything but had given up of people picking it up.

So you were at Mud Street before, you may want to bear in mind if you keep investing 5s straight your move habits will be pretty easy to trace - doesn't mean you can't skip away, do a NA, skip back though.

[Barghast]

Cont...

Barghast, on 26 August 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

Oh yes - Liosan is, if that [6] was a whole die, 2/5 South, 2/5 LaRua, 1/5 Corporate Cult. If it was a [5]+[1] he is 2/11 Aces, 2/11 South, 4/11 LaRua and 3/11 Cult - statistically, we want him dead. He is only one of ours if that 6 was a 2 Diamonds + 4 Cheat.

Denul, on 26 August 2013 - 10:14 PM, said:

the only summons I have summoned is c3peon, who is summoned this day phase, and is going to attack lio tonight. I'm moving to dead dane's deed at dusk, and I only have 1 sanity left, I lost a damn lot last night. I need to be elected to something so I can use the xp to add 2 sanity to my sanity die, so I don't go batshit and kill everyone. I have some alchebiomist potions, a few teslamancer things, and I can end day whenever I want (a teslamancer ability that costs pixie dust. So, if you can, try to not summon too much and hit me.

PS, can I post the Alchebiomist and teslamancer PM's in this convo?

I want to try to get you as much info as possible.

Barghast, on 26 August 2013 - 10:21 PM, said:

Something to consider - as with our abilities, summoned creatures can only attack someone who is at the same location as you are, if you've summoned him at Dead Danes then fine, else he'll be wherever you are at the moment. Where did you lose 6 Sanity, that's a horrendous amount in a single day and shouldn't have been possible unless a Hexer was there too - there was 6 A alts, I filled one so there should have been at most 5 others summoned. The Longhorn dead was another, can only have been someone letting off major hexes.

I quizzed PS before, if you get to 0 Sanity, you can still invest XP you earn in Sanity however you don't regain faction alignment until someone else heals your Sanity up one.

From the OP:

1) you lose your faction alignment and play solely for yourself now;
2) you do an automatic 1 damage to everyone at your location at dawn, including yourself. You continue doing this until you're dead, or until everyone else is dead;
3) If you are elected as either Mayor or Judge, you will elect yourself for lynch (or for Judge, then for lynch);
4) If you somehow manage to win the game, you get so many bragging rights it is not even funny.

So, Sanity loss means damage to those on the same location - this can work to our benefit, sit on Mormon House or similar and take down LaRua or Marketplace and damage anyone who tries to claim it.

Do any of the other roles have Sanity healing potential?

Denul, on 26 August 2013 - 10:29 PM, said:

Must've been a hexer, I was extremely confused, and more than a little pissed. You can heal sanity? The insanity idea could work. I can sit on mormon house, and I have an ability that can heal me 1 pip of health (only me, no one else), and so I can, theoretically, hurt larua a lot. None of the other roles can heal sanity. Personally, I'd prefer to remain sane, but if it becomes necessary, I'll sacrifice myself for the cause.

Also, where are you?

Barghast, on 26 August 2013 - 10:54 PM, said:

Got my ass on Fleece Spring I think, not sure though - I started there and made no move in Move 1, didn't message my Move 2 until night had fallen so I *think* it wasn't processed as it wasn't received in Day but haven't checked on it yet. If it was processed then I'm in Dead Danes Deed. Better get that cleared up actually with the showdown about to land. You know we could set up a Wager racket quite effectively with these convos, betting knowing we win or lose for the reward - Wallaces Office would be great for this with the pip investments. Actually that tells me the 2-2-2-2 at Mud Street may be a Wager result rather than an investment.

Sorry I didn't mean I can, by other roles I was hoping you'd turn around and say that the Alchembiomist or Teslamancer could. It may be worth playing to another faction in the hopes of them healing you if you end up insane?

Sanity is indeed preferred, although knowing who I am you could make a reasonable run at a solo - I'm sure secretly everyone is hoping to lose faction and trump the game. Don't go throwing yourself under any trains though, you're far more important in game than out of it.

Information wise I've not picked up a massive amount yet beyond eliminating people from a few roles, before PS hammered that thought I was wondering if you could use your knowledge of the rest of our factions PMs in a similar way to what I did to get them all on board, I wouldn't suggest it now though.

Bek is 1/10 Alchembiomist, 1/10 Aces, 3/10 South, 3/10 LaRua and 2/10 Cult
Grasp isn't Service Conductor
Liosan is as stated before
Merrid isn't Service Conductor or Locomindhive

Anyone else I'm waiting on more information from Cantrips to narrow them down more.

I did a Find on Bek last night but he wasn't at the Fleece so no luck.

I'm going to submit you as Judge if you want to do the same for me - as has been said on thread, Mayor is the safer of the two positions so we can make a pitch with anyone we think is worth a shot as Judge safe in the knowledge that it'll be you/me get it and you can target whoever you want for the real lynches as well as getting XP - the miss-direction can be blamed on the thread-claimed Judge and we might even get them lynched the next day when the one of us that wasn't Mayor raises a challenge to whoever was and we repeat. It's worth a try if it comes to it - I don't really want another hung lynch.

My XP would be going straight on Bullets - I took 2 damage last night so Luck will be second call with Health although C3Peon can heal me, only 3 actions a cycle is crippling. I can reset a total of 11 die a day but I only used 6 yesterday. Hence C3Peon getting the Excavator Arm as a priority - he can perform actions using his own dice on the locations so saved me a great deal.

Denul, on 26 August 2013 - 11:29 PM, said:

Ah, ok. I don't know why I thought you could, I have your role pm. I'll put you as judge for my mayor, and I'll say I submitted Grasp, and then either you could put Hanas/bek as a lynch target, or choose others if you wanted.

Barghast, on 26 August 2013 - 11:58 PM, said:

You have the potential to figure out the rest of our team you know, just by pulling names out a hat and starting a convo with them, first thing you say is as you spent the cards, you want to know what is the wth letter of their yth ability and the zth letter of their nth item and you tell them as a gesture of trust the same of yours. Can be taken as a sign of trust and it may well be missed that you have knowledge of all your factions PMs and are comparing them, keep the convo going fast and give them something to think on that'll distract them from your reasons for the initial question, after all most people have their own way of sorting out how much they're going to tell you in a non-OP-defined convo like this and it may be taken as yours. If their letters match the PMs of our team you can work in another question to confirm then surprise them with who you are.

As you know I can set up one Friendship a day too, I have my Hearts as a 3 and 1, same as my Clubs for pairs in Wagers. If PS will allow the PMs to be put in here then we can both pursue team members on thread.

Which brings up the question of signalling eachother on thread with things we learn. Any thoughts on ways to say to trust/do not trust <alt> that'll pass muster?

Denul, on 27 August 2013 - 12:30 AM, said:

I'll do that starting tomorrow. Possibly the signalling could be either talking about them in an accent, or I could call out those who we shouldn't trust (the cantrip), and if I don't then you know to trust them? or vice versa. If PS lets me, I'll give you all three PM's, and tell you which abilities I chose.

Another way to find out if I should trust them, I could ask them the cost of the nth action in the list of actions, which would be a bit more recognizable as a trust thing, and would make it easier to see if they were trustworthy. I'd give them the cost of an action that didn't cost much/the cost of an item that didn't cost much in return.

With 17 players alive, two of us known and trusted, that leaves 15, so if we friend one each day and find out if they're trustworthy or not, that's about 7 days. We probably won't get 7 days, but with deaths at night that are bound to come at some point, it should narrow the field. hopefully I don't go crazy before we find them.

Barghast, on 27 August 2013 - 11:23 AM, said:

Talking about them in an accent?

I'd suggest for my signalling at least it be something that doesn't involve an action - I only have 3 bullets so if I vote, friend someone and cantrip signal that is all I can do that Day and Night so no more summoning or enhancing C3Peon. At a guess you took the 3 abilities that are buffs for C3Peon - I want to give him the Laser next to make him that bit more dangerous, it'll probably be my only action for today - vote, the friendship I offered on thread and the item.

Don't forget later in the game with C3Peon we have between the two of us 4 votes we can lay down if needed, could be enough to swing an election our way, or at least onto someone who doesn't want us dead. To vote with him just PM PS that you want him to vote and PS will add it in. Do note the name will show in vote updates so it is in effect an independent vote, not a doubling of ours and will make him a target.

I like the cost a lot, maybe make it so you ask for the cost and the position in the list, that way they can choose something where the cost doesn't give too much potential role information away - if you asked the cost of my 2nd ability for instance I'd lie because having a Diamonds [6] cost really narrows down who I could be.

I can continue with narrowing roles down via cantrips which eliminates people from being certain roles which may say a day or two off that timeline.

As for going crazy, I guess you're at Mud Street still? So, you're probably insane already even if you don't know it yet. Do bear in mind the other roles present there were Card Shark, Sanity [6] and the Hexslinger [3] or Released Wanderer [2]. Card Shark is probably insane already. If Hexslinger was there they may be sane still depending on their "unique solution" to their sanity problem. If it was the Released Wanderer they're likely insane - you did Sanity [-1] to them so unless both LaRua roles were there someone else did sanity damage too. True Grit cantrip is something you may want to consider, although it'll likely out you as a very active summoner to thread.

I'm going to make the assumption that you've invested 5-5-5-5 in Mud Street again? Best call all round I think, whoever gets it and keeps it will go a long way towards investment winning - another reason for you not to die yet - the rest of us, even if knowingly working together will struggle on Spades investments.

Need to think of on-thread signalling now.

Denul, on 27 August 2013 - 12:34 PM, said:

For abilities, I took two from the alchebiomist so I could use some potions, but I did get the laser gun, which I got. I invested the 5555 yesterday, but I'm moving to dead dane's deed tonight, to do some NA's and try to claim it because a lot of my actions need pixie dust, and If I spend 3 pixie dust, I can end the day phase at any time. Being insane is a possibility, and I'd assume are others who are already crazy. If I survive this day phase I'll do true grit tomorrow, and try to avoid being called a summoner. I'll probably move back to mud street, but right now I'm content to let other factions fight it out, because they seem evenly matched. I'll probably try t go back and kill someone there so I can do a hostile takeover and take the tile in a cycle.

Good point in giving them a choice of which number on the list to give.

[Barghast]

Cont...

Barghast, on 27 August 2013 - 12:42 PM, said:

Investing is a Day action so you can do it any time except night I'll head there too then if I'm not there already, I should get a bit or two more Pixie for centipedes later. If you want to Wager with me tomorrow Day whilst there I'll put up the most abysmal hand imaginable and you'll get 1 more dust for winning against me.

I'll try and point out how you've sacrificed two dice, even if you were one you're pretty much finished now anyway

Denul, on 27 August 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

I meant I've used up most of my dice, and have no bullets left. The wager idea sounds good. I'm just hoping the summoners have low enough sanity that they hesitated to summon today, and so I can stay sane

Barghast, on 27 August 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

I've checked and I can't see anywhere that summoning costs Sanity so my guess is once they drop to 0 then it is all open without worrying about repercussions. Sanity loss wont affect the Released Wanderer so much as I suspect they gain Sanity by winning Wagers, the rest should be holding back - I hope!

Might be a wise move to have a phrase we can slip into a post to indicate we've gone insane - if we don't know then the other one of us will put us as Judge still and the insane one promptly lynches themselves. A comment about needing to take a walk thinking on the game perhaps? Followed by an absence on thread?

So, for trust/distrust:
We know who we have convos with, if at the end of the convo I'll say thank you to the alt with the named of the alt followed by a differing bit of punctuation - , for not-team, ; for team. I can fit such a post in with how I've been playing pretty well, especially after we finish this one and I start my style rolling.

So:

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Thank you for todays conversation Denul, it was good to chat away from PS's post restrictions.

^ You're on team

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Thank you for todays conversation Denul; it was good to chat away from PS's post restrictions.

^You're not on team.

There is a chance we can put a complete picture of the alt together, if I'm sure of them wanting us dead (Aces & South) I'll end with [0}, if I'm sure we want them dead (LaRua and Cult) (0]

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Thank you for todays conversation Denul; it was good to chat away from PS's post restrictions.

(0]

^You're not on team and I have narrowed down your faction to LaRua/Cult

Any ideas on your signal? Needs to be something that'll fit in with your posting style so you're in a better position than me.

Maybe when speaking of the alt fail to capitalise the star letter a few times for don't trust, over-capitalise for trust? denul and DEnul for instance, easy slip of the shift key. Just try not to mention them without capitalising for the whole day!

Denul, on 27 August 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

Barghast, on 27 August 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

I've checked and I can't see anywhere that summoning costs Sanity so my guess is once they drop to 0 then it is all open without worrying about repercussions. Sanity loss wont affect the Released Wanderer so much as I suspect they gain Sanity by winning Wagers, the rest should be holding back - I hope!

Might be a wise move to have a phrase we can slip into a post to indicate we've gone insane - if we don't know then the other one of us will put us as Judge still and the insane one promptly lynches themselves. A comment about needing to take a walk thinking on the game perhaps? Followed by an absence on thread?

So, for trust/distrust:
We know who we have convos with, if at the end of the convo I'll say thank you to the alt with the named of the alt followed by a differing bit of punctuation - , for not-team, ; for team. I can fit such a post in with how I've been playing pretty well, especially after we finish this one and I start my style rolling.

So:

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Thank you for todays conversation Denul, it was good to chat away from PS's post restrictions.

^ You're on team

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Thank you for todays conversation Denul; it was good to chat away from PS's post restrictions.

^You're not on team.

There is a chance we can put a complete picture of the alt together, if I'm sure of them wanting us dead (Aces & South) I'll end with [0}, if I'm sure we want them dead (LaRua and Cult) (0]

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Thank you for todays conversation Denul; it was good to chat away from PS's post restrictions.

(0]

^You're not on team and I have narrowed down your faction to LaRua/Cult

Any ideas on your signal? Needs to be something that'll fit in with your posting style so you're in a better position than me.

Maybe when speaking of the alt fail to capitalise the star letter a few times for don't trust, over-capitalise for trust? denul and DEnul for instance, easy slip of the shift key. Just try not to mention them without capitalising for the whole day!

I like the first code for you, and the capitalization works for me, as I post alot off my phone, so it'll fit in well. For the insanity, I'll mention that I'll be back in a bit, but I need to get some things done. The "need to get things done" is the code for insanity, and if I say I'll be back in a bit without saying i need to get things done, it means I'm still sane.

Barghast, on 27 August 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:

Cool, make sure to keep this thread copied somewhere too for when Day ends!

PS has confirmed to me that you can post PMs, I'll not quote the PM just in case - I guess you asked in your PM thread too, since PS hasn't yet checked in here?

Denul, on 27 August 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

I did. I'll post them in a sec

Denul, on 27 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 19 August 2013 - 02:21 PM, said:

Below are your role PMs.







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======================================== Teslamancer =====================================================================================




One MAJOR addendum to the Teslamancer: Elect-Trick must be submitted before Wagers end.
Please note that the following players are Elected:

Mayor, Judge and Lynchee. It is not an ability without risk.
Finally, if you are elected Mayor, it is not announced on thread - for your own safety.


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==================================== Alchebiomist ========================================================================================




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================================== Enginseer + Pets ======================================================================================

I have:

Abilities:
Summon C3Peon
Filter
Swallow

Items:
Laser gun
Split Tongue Tonic
Potion of Potency
Electric Chair
Light Switch
Shock therapy
Electric Fence
Green Chameleon
Eau de vie

Barghast, on 27 August 2013 - 03:51 PM, said:

Holy crap.

Denul, on 27 August 2013 - 03:52 PM, said:

hehe, I know right

Barghast, on 27 August 2013 - 03:54 PM, said:

I'd love the Elect-Trick. You'd have both Judge and Mayor honestly thinking the other had screwed them over. That would split the thread to hell and almost guarantee they die.

[Barghast]

And again...

Denul, on 27 August 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

I wanted it, but I got swallow instead. Kind of regret getting it, when I could've dropped filter and taken the risk with the potions. I had expected to be doing more potions, and wanted to make sure they worked with filter. Probably will use them tomorrow to reset my cheat and help me conserve bullets.

Denul, on 27 August 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

Barghast, on 27 August 2013 - 03:54 PM, said:

I'd love the Elect-Trick. You'd have both Judge and Mayor honestly thinking the other had screwed them over. That would split the thread to hell and almost guarantee they die.

If only we could find the teslamancer asap and get him to use it.

Barghast, on 27 August 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:

So, uh, now I need to find the willpower to resist fishing. This is going to be hard. Seriously hard. I shall interrogate PS separately with the exact wording of a post this time I think and make sure not to include any words from the PMs.

There are some pretty nice abilities there, if you'd have taken the Split Tongue you'd have had an infinite supply of Cheat, could have used the Cheat to True Grit regularly and never had to worry about Sanity. Hindsight eh?

Barghast, on 27 August 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:

Denul, on 27 August 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

If only we could find the teslamancer asap and get him to use it.

If he's in the game he's got to use it today, surely - clear lead in votes coming up to RVNP would have been perfect what with it having to be called before RVNP. The only risk is that he's selected someone who has one of us as Lynchee. I've not seen anyone own up to it but I'm bound to be on a few for making lots of notes and you for that die reset.

The addendum to the Teslamancher also makes me think there is a mechanic for swapping the roles in the lynch process around out there somewhere - so swap Lynchee with Mayor for instance, chain follows through, just Mayor ends up dead instead.

Denul, on 27 August 2013 - 04:06 PM, said:

I took split tongue, just haven't made it yet. I'll probably make potion of potency tomorrow, use up all my cheat, reset it, and true grit to hopefully get some sanity back.

Barghast, on 27 August 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Denul, on 27 August 2013 - 04:06 PM, said:

I took split tongue, just haven't made it yet. I'll probably make potion of potency tomorrow, use up all my cheat, reset it, and true grit to hopefully get some sanity back.

So you did, sorry, I skipped to the end thinking potions were there. You're pretty well set up, have you made an electric chair yet? If not any idea on when - I'll drop out of potentially running for tomorrows Mayor in favour of waiting till you have one, be it in 3 days or whenever as an extra 5XP into the pool is almost certainly getting us a Hero in game - I would imagine 8XP tops is what is needed, 2XP per faction member.

Denul, on 27 August 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

I can make the electric chair tomorrow. I'll probably make it, the split tongue tonic, and filter the tonic, hopefully get elected, and get 5 xp in the hero pool, with the other 3 from the 2 for the tonic and 1 from normal xp going towards sanity (if I need it. If not itll go into the pool.)

Barghast, on 27 August 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

Can make it, consider if it is the best use of your resources to do so then though - I don't mind holding off a day or more, will give me more summoning time too without having to do a Confidence etc. I'm out for maybe 4½ hours now.

[Barghast]

Barghast / Cast Convo:

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

Okay I had time to do this.

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:22 PM, said:

Hi Cast, thanks for being the only person who wants me to talk to them and sorry for the delay, I had meant to have this typed out beforehand but rather jumped the gun.

As you probably figure I'm taking an information-is-important approach to this game, as a result of which I think sharing some information is vital and have concocted a scheme.

What I'd like is, as a gesture of mutual trust between us, for you to tell me two words from your Items list, of your choice according to a specification I'll lay out below. In exchange you can ask me for any three words from any of my items under the same specification. I urge truth but of course this being mafia I cannot guarantee it.

So, my specification is:

The words you give me, I'd like for the Nth word of the Nth item for each item description, where you select both Ns of your own will. Furthermore exclude the item name and any die scores from your count, so as below, selecting the 1st word of the 1st item you would reply "1st item word is spreads," the 2nd word of 2nd item "2nd word is the" etc. Your call as to which two items. Alternatively, tell me the cost of the nth item, but only the cost type of one part of it - so for item 3, you could say "3rd item, Luck [3], x [6] y [6].


Item Name / Cost / Effect

Machine Gun / Bullets [2], Diamonds [3] / Machine Gun spreads bullets [4] everywhere. Every alt on the location except you take damage [2]
AK-47 / Hearts [3], Gold Dust [1] / Double the damage of all attacks using this item, however recoil forces you to shoot yourself in the foot, taking Health [1] damage per cycle used
Magnum / Spades [2], Diamonds [3], Luck [3] / Shot that alt dead - if you hit, they die.

As you can see there's enormous scope for you to tell me nothing about your abilities whilst establishing a sort of mutual trust. As I'll be allowing you the same but letting you specify the item and the word and giving you 3 asks you have the potential to gain on the deal, with the same specification that item names are excluded when in the text.

You may be wondering why I'm doing it - if I can garner some information then I can make more informed decisions. You getting more than me is a trade-off I'm willing to make to increase my own personal stocks.

I do have some titbits to share too, but that'll wait on your response


edited for table not working

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

As I'm sure you can see once you figure out what I'm on about there is nothing that will directly alt you/tell me faction/role hence why I'm leaving it entirely up to you which words. Denul actually got me thinking about this yesterday, alas Day was curtailed before I tried it on him

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:27 PM, said:

Yeah I am all for sharing certain things. I feel a bit silly when I say I do not completely understand you. I am guessing that everyone's Role PM is different. What can we reveal in a PM? Anything?

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

Everyones Role is indeed different, different items etc - the list of roles in the OP was a bit too specific for my tastes so I went down the item route instead as we have no idea about anyones items other than our own and I am reasonably sure they are unique per role. Take a look at yours, with the full text do they give you a clue as to if they are keyed to you? Full text makes some clear I think - particularly if you're a summoner for instance - hence me leaving choice of Nth words entirely in your hands. I don't want to totally pin your role down unless we come to the conclusion it is mutually beneficial.

From past PM conversation with PS, everything except Hero PM/abilities can be posted. Don't take my word for it though, get it verified independently by PS as I'd hate to have you mod-killed

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:35 PM, said:

I am looking at my Items.

I think I understand you, so in Items.

1st Item, 1st word = Destroy

2nd Item, 2nd Word = this

3rd Item, 3rd Word = does

4th Item, 4th word = Hand

5th Item, 5th Word = Destroy

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

Gold Dust, Cheat and Diamonds are all costs. How many depends on what Item.

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

I'd rather be open with you to be honest. Chances are we may be of opposing factions but we could not "go after" each other. Others will do that themselves.

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

I don't see me surviving much longer.

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

Woah, was only expecting 2! Well I can tell from the rather more information than I was expecting you're probably a Wager role?

Okay, bit of information for you I'm not putting on thread - Chard Shark has got to be insane, no way around it. If they were on your team they are not any more. Too much summoning action in Day 1 at Mud Street for them to still have their wits unless there is another mechanic at play. This as you can tell messes with my on thread breakdown just a little.

Surviving on Health or Sanity grounds? I don't think anyone is gunning for you on thread so must be taking hits off-stage?

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

Why do you think I am a wager role? It's pretty good guess work. Just from what I said?

Wagers don't kill people though. Bit of a bummer. What sort of role are you?

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

The Card Shark didn't have to be on Mud Street day one to put the Knack there. He can be on any tile and the knack can be placed on any other tile.

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

Why do you think I am a wager role? It's pretty good guess work. Just from what I said?

Wagers don't kill people though. Bit of a bummer. What sort of role are you?

It was the Hand and the Destroy - that's why I said 2 and you pick them, to avoid such clues being dropped

It's okay, I have no idea of your faction though so there's a 2/5 chance I want you dead, 2/5 you want me dead and 1/5 you're on the same team as me.

I'm more combat orientated although I have a trick or two up my sleeve. I can happily say I've not targeted you at all and that Fanderay and Hanas were not at the Fleece Spring last night phase.

The Card Shark did have to be there to invest 5, 5, 5, 5 on the location though

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:54 PM, said:

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

The Card Shark did have to be there to invest 5, 5, 5, 5 on the location though

^At Mud Street I mean

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

It must be tough for you then. You have to be on the same tile to hit?

[Barghast]

Cast cont...

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

Oh yeah, I agree about the Card Shark now that you mention it (I was thinking of the Knack not the cards laid), why do you think he has lost Sanity though?

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

It must be tough for you then. You have to be on the same tile to hit?

Tell me about it. Lots of [1] [1] [1] bullet dice have never looked so appealing.

There was a total of 6 summons/hexes cast on Mud Street on Day 1, that's as much as the Card Shark has so they've been probably playing loose all yesterday and today.

Have you noted any Sanity losses at locations - if it may give away your alignment do think twice before telling me

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

I think I am insane but how would I know?

I was hit by a Sanity deduction on night one and night 2. How about you?

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:04 PM, said:

And my source for that information has just given himself away on thread so no speculation needed as to where that info came from. However I don't think he was one of the roles I named as investing

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:04 PM, said:

Nothing last night, Night 1 I was hit for 1

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:07 PM, said:

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:04 PM, said:

Nothing last night, Night 1 I was hit for 1

Just 1? Both times I have been hit for 3.

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

I am factionless. I am insane. I was Card Shark. I'm not happy about it. But there you go.

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:10 PM, said:

Yowch! Yeah I figure my summoner has been dropping temp alts in different locations after I didn't get a second and must be a pretty low bullets role, or mixed with wagers or similar - my guess was Enginseer, there were too many people hanging around on thread not putting actions in for a low-rate summoner to hide amongst.

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

I played a good game on and off, but I cannot Judge for losing that much Sanity. Ridiculous amount. I have set others up as Card Shark and I won all my wagers with 4 of a kind 5's

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

I am factionless. I am insane. I was Card Shark. I'm not happy about it. But there you go.

Heh, yeah, I figured you probably were. I'm impressed that you lasted so long with Sanity - you have something that gives you defences against loss? I'm not someone who wants you dead btw, you're not part of my VCs

I've checked before with PS, if you can get yourself back to + Sanity you don't go back to team, if someone else causes your sanity to rise you regain your alignment so it is a possible tactic to consider. I guess you investments won't work so you'll be into heavy gambling form now on?

Your Aim is really quite awful so you'll be hard put to take down players, you going to consider hunting occupied temporary alts for some boosts?

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:17 PM, said:

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

I played a good game on and off, but I cannot Judge for losing that much Sanity. Ridiculous amount. I have set others up as Card Shark and I won all my wagers with 4 of a kind 5's

Well, you can take down 2 others as well as yourself at least? Woah, nice going, no-one is likely to beat that by much. Is it worth querying PS as to what'll happen if you go to the Office and win wagers there? Faction may get some investment points still? You're similarly constrained by location for Wagers aren't you? I.e. must be on the same location?

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

I am factionless. I am insane. I was Card Shark. I'm not happy about it. But there you go.

Heh, yeah, I figured you probably were. I'm impressed that you lasted so long with Sanity - you have something that gives you defences against loss? I'm not someone who wants you dead btw, you're not part of my VCs

I've checked before with PS, if you can get yourself back to + Sanity you don't go back to team, if someone else causes your sanity to rise you regain your alignment so it is a possible tactic to consider. I guess you investments won't work so you'll be into heavy gambling form now on?

Your Aim is really quite awful so you'll be hard put to take down players, you going to consider hunting occupied temporary alts for some boosts?

I have not got a plan because I didn't consider becoming my own man this early into the game. I thought i'd be able to get away from losing sanity. I am unsure what to do.

[Barghast]

Cast cont...

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

The LaRua are the ones who have to deal with most Sanity issues given that they have such low Sanity scores, I'd expect them to have something that could heal it? Mormond's House seems the likely place to take a shot at getting amongst them, however given their summoning doesn't cost their own team Sanity I would expect it to be stuffed full of temp alts by now.

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:17 PM, said:

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

I played a good game on and off, but I cannot Judge for losing that much Sanity. Ridiculous amount. I have set others up as Card Shark and I won all my wagers with 4 of a kind 5's

Well, you can take down 2 others as well as yourself at least? Woah, nice going, no-one is likely to beat that by much. Is it worth querying PS as to what'll happen if you go to the Office and win wagers there? Faction may get some investment points still? You're similarly constrained by location for Wagers aren't you? I.e. must be on the same location?

Yes. Wagers only exist if you target a player in same location. Only my knack makes a wager dangerous.

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

The LaRua are the ones who have to deal with most Sanity issues given that they have such low Sanity scores, I'd expect them to have something that could heal it? Mormond's House seems the likely place to take a shot at getting amongst them, however given their summoning doesn't cost their own team Sanity I would expect it to be stuffed full of temp alts by now.

I am going to go to Mormon house. I cause damage to everyone at my location until I die.

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:26 PM, said:

Heh, fair point, your (ex-)faction want them dead too don't they - if you can get them to regain your sanity whilst simultaneously killing them, result!

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:31 PM, said:

Any other information you want? I am literally clueless as to who is what, where, who's who etc

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:31 PM, said:

I am thinking that Jalan or Liosan is of the Aces faction.

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

Leaning towards Liosan. Oh oh,

I won my wager against Jalan, that means I hit him with a 2 bullet, 2 aim die. I don't know what Lio did to him but Jalan must have had 3 sanity and 2 health removed

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:34 PM, said:

Russian Roulette forced Jalan to attack himself, using all highest dice available to him. Bullet, aim dodge and luck.

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:31 PM, said:

Any other information you want? I am literally clueless as to who is what, where, who's who etc

A thought for you - you've got 5's in all suits, no doubt you have a Cheat generating capability too? Can you generate Cheat [1]s and become a mega-finder?

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:34 PM, said:

Russian Roulette forced Jalan to attack himself, using all highest dice available to him. Bullet, aim dodge and luck.

Again, ouch! You can take down people after all - worth considering as a tactic. Mud Street must have been painful for a lot of people Day 1.

Do you pick the target or was it the result of losing a Wager? I'm still clueless as to what the hell Liosan was doing with that move, only thing that came to mind was he is Locomindhive and hence cannot move by himself until his faction controls an area, hence playing up tensions on thread for an excuse to move himself.

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:31 PM, said:

Any other information you want? I am literally clueless as to who is what, where, who's who etc

A thought for you - you've got 5's in all suits, no doubt you have a Cheat generating capability too? Can you generate Cheat [1]s and become a mega-finder?

I have abilities that can create a die of any suit of any number of pips by using gold dust, I have 7 cheat die.

[Barghast]

More Cast

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:34 PM, said:

Russian Roulette forced Jalan to attack himself, using all highest dice available to him. Bullet, aim dodge and luck.

Again, ouch! You can take down people after all - worth considering as a tactic. Mud Street must have been painful for a lot of people Day 1.

Do you pick the target or was it the result of losing a Wager? I'm still clueless as to what the hell Liosan was doing with that move, only thing that came to mind was he is Locomindhive and hence cannot move by himself until his faction controls an area, hence playing up tensions on thread for an excuse to move himself.

I used another ability to get there, I was going to invest in betty's bar. Maybe I would still have had sanity if I had stayed in betty's bar.

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

I could only do finds if the person is on the same tile no?

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:46 PM, said:

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

I could only do finds if the person is on the same tile no?

I think so, seems to be the only Night Cantrip so likely influenced same as attacks. You'd be able to mow through 4 potential alts at that location a night though and can take a break or cheat more to spread the info to someone you know from the Find is on your team - How much would most of us give for knowledge that we want x dead for sure, or y is on our team?

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

I don't see how that is possible? Can you only do finds with diamonds?

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

Oh shit, yeah, sorry. Good point, I'd assumed a [6] of anything would work. Must read notes harder, harder!

Thanks for the vote by the way, I think it safe to say you wouldn't be my judge knowing you'd suicide - at least I have a feel for you now and I'd be quite happy for you to hang around until there is the chance of a lone gun winning

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:58 PM, said:

I go away again tomorrow for 4 days so have little coverage. I want to play and find a way to gain health whilst I am losing it. I have asked PS if I can still use my abilities. If I can there is one that will increase my health

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:58 PM, said:

I go away again tomorrow for 4 days so have little coverage. I want to play and find a way to gain health whilst I am losing it. I have asked PS if I can still use my abilities. If I can there is one that will increase my health

Put in provisionals for the next 3 game Day/Nights? given we had a truncated day there's no saying there wont be more. Wasn't it you who went off for a nice Bank Holiday weekend? Lucky sod with all these holidays.

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

Planned in advance. I am not having a "big" holiday this year.

Okay what uses do you think best for these?

Marked Deck, change one suit to a suit of my choice for that phase

Palmed Ace create a die of a suit of my choice, pips of my choice

Raise the Stakes, permanently increase the ante of a locations wager, loser gives chepaest item to the winner also.

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 03:12 PM, said:

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

Planned in advance. I am not having a "big" holiday this year.

Okay what uses do you think best for these?

Marked Deck, change one suit to a suit of my choice for that phase
If you want to go down the Finer route this is a good call - swap in so you have 2 Diamond [5]s

Palmed Ace create a die of a suit of my choice, pips of my choice
Again ideal for powering up Finder, expensive though I guess so you'll need to be somewhere you can fund it from

Raise the Stakes, permanently increase the ante of a locations wager, loser gives chepaest item to the winner also.
If you have suspicions about gold/pixie needs for your faction as a whole this would be worth considering at Dead Danes Deed or Fleece Springs, everyone else will also get the bonus though. At a guess your Bank Robber would suffer heavily from increased items, Cattle Thief may need to power summons with gold or pixie, Gunslinger will also suffer in Wagers. All in I'd say this role is one tailored to your own benefits rather than team.

If you go through your items you've bound to have a few that you want to create with high die costs, it may be worth lumping them in and having a day of item creation to power yourself up.

I wonder if anyone on thread has actually picked up on you being insane yet after saying you didn't want Judge? Better go check, spam session is going on well it seems.

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 03:15 PM, said:

Hah, you're cracking me up on thread

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 03:18 PM, said:

Ha ha, I am winding Fanderay right up.

Thanks for the heads up. I will look into it and lay down some provisionals.

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

I am going to call out Fanderay. It's a bit of fun, people will think me at their location. Palmed Ace, shoot out, wager and russian roulette.

[Barghast]

Cast...

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 03:52 PM, said:

Hehe, I like it. No idea whose side Fanderay is with but by god they can't let go of someone wanting them dead can they.

Plus with the move being Day, they can't really escape from a Wager, if they try everyone knows they're at Mud Street in Night so will be slinging shots their way too

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

I am waiting for him to accept before I throw down the Russian Roulette.

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

Might be wiser to wait till it is nearly RVNP, you could still be an alt that isn't around after all. Although it may frame Rashan nicely, will have to check when he was on vs the last call.

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:

Oooh do that.

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

I am trying to provoke the thread into voting for me, I am insane so i am acting insane if you haven't noticed

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 04:23 PM, said:

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

I am trying to provoke the thread into voting for me, I am insane so i am acting insane if you haven't noticed

I had indeed, how many other have I begin to wonder.

Fanders hasn't noticed yet has he?

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 04:24 PM, said:

ha ha no. I'm off for a bit. Catch you later on.

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 04:29 PM, said:

Ditto, back in 5 hours or so. Last time I said that Day ended whilst I was out!

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 10:06 PM, said:

Unfortunately, the blind idiots aren't thinking straight. Yesterdays lynch failed when the Electee was made unable to stand so it would have fallen to the backup were there one. There wasn't. Now, there is. It is one that few are willing to countenance. Therefore the person behind the failed election yesterday is extremely unlikely to pull the same trick today because they know it may well be their head on the block given that no-one knows the backup Judge. Whats more, my case should galvanise the rest of the thread into actually, you know, putting some effort into an election that we are pretty sure will work. I'm telling you so that if you get another friendship and have survived then you can confirm my intentions to others.

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 10:36 PM, said:

I'm in bed, can I, process this tomorrow?

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 10:37 PM, said:

Sure, no worries

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 10:29 AM, said:

Sorry, I'd forgotten that it was your neck on the line in the other lynch. I'll have to try and put in a bit of effort to swing it off you.

Have you checked with PS about any further hints about your sanity? The only ways I've come up with of saying that a lynch for you benefits no-one is so obviously pointing out you're insane that it'd likely be mod-kill. It might not come to that but if you need to, do what you can and/or let me know and I'll try and we can get the point across.

[Barghast]

Still Cast:

Cast, on 29 August 2013 - 10:45 AM, said:

You don't need to look after me. If I'm lynched I'm lynched we move on. I still think.it will move elsewhere. I'm still in bed believe it or not. Day off :-)

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:

I'm still not inclined to see you casually lynched though, hell, I'm rooting for you to win it as an independent actually, I suspect there are a few others who've lost their sanity or are incredibly close to it but I like your baiting of Fanders, even if he wussed out.

Jammy bugger, I've been out to the dentist for a checkup already - I'm only working part time in the evenings at the moment.

Cast, on 29 August 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

I am thinking of calling someone else out. Who do you think has a high attack and can feasibly win a shoot out? That is not you and not on our teams? I will call them out, at Betty's bar. They accept, I russian roulette the place. They lose the wager and hit themselves with a powerful attack.

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 11:48 AM, said:

Merrid and Liosan have demonstrated [5] bullet die on thread which either implies highly offensive skilled or stupid die setup. Possibly a big hitter die for thread and many smaller attacks.

Grasp has showed a [4] before, not no real clue as to him though other than he 3/4 isn't Cult, 1/4 isn't South.

We've then got a selection of alts who have showed [3] - Fanderay (wussed out already), Hanas (no read on at all), Hentos (ditto but 2/4 chance not Cult 1/4 not South), Lock (3/4 not Cult, 2/4 not Uni), Rashan (2/4 not Cult, 1/4 not South).

Names in blue are likely to be showing up in the next 2-4ish hours, red out for the day after 2-4 hours. There may be one or two more to the above but this is based entirely on shown bullets on thread so hard to call accurately. Could be many people holding back big die with a 1 or 2 showing on thread and a big one hidden away, or just might be low hitters. Might be worth checking back how many bullets Liosan, Merrid and Grasp have active on thread if your ability specifies they have to use the biggest die - you know for sure what they'll have as a minimum then.

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 12:02 PM, said:

Something to consider actually, RR from what I checked back and read forces highest die, therefore higher die on thread may be worth considering as targets right at the start of a day - you know guaranteed they have that die minimum then. Although there is the risk that they have insta-submitted actions to use them up if they get a hint - might be worth keeping an eye on who has had convos with Jalan since that day and who those in turn talk to - it is bound to be a big question put to him. Did Liosan not have to shoot himself too?

Cast, on 29 August 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

Yes Lio has a shoot out with Jalan, the same day i moved to their location. I had a wager against Jalan, russian roulette style. So Jalan has either a lot of health or very weak attacks.

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

Well this is good, Bek has friended me but right away buggered off. He's rising up my want dead list!

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

I've got a bad feeling about whatever trick Liosan is pulling, he's doing a reasonable job of pulling himself out of the lynch, but at what price? He's on a few lists so may well still be in target.

Cast, on 29 August 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

I cannot use palmed ace to create a for that is used other than wages! So my move earlier was illegal.can I use cheat die to create a shoot out situation?

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 03:53 PM, said:

Two possible variations:

The Wager version, that says you can use a Cheat as a card:
Cheat dice can affect Poker as well by acting as a die of Clubs, Diamonds, Hearts or Spades.

and the Investment version which says you can't:
Cheat dice can be used to increase a die of any suit, but cannot take the place of a die

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

Conclusion for the day: Bek is a dick and will from now on be one of my lynches.

[Barghast]

Last Cast

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 10:31 PM, said:

If you have anything left that is likely to damage/harm any faction my suggestion would be to pop in early tomorrow and whack it in if they get more than another vote on the bigger train. Take some of those fuckers that want you dead down a peg or two. Failing that, cantrip your way across the thread and spread as much BS as you can dream up just to sow a little doubt in their minds. Your CF will show who you are, your investments have been pretty clear but no-one knows if you can regenerate/reset dice from other items/abilities, play up those doubts. Claim you did finds on X to Y and they're on the same team, tell Z that A needs to die for their VCs, tell B that it is C whose summoning has been costing them sanity, that style of thing. Cause utter chaos.

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 11:34 PM, said:

On the chance that Day ends and you live, you fancy setting up some on-thread coded comms between us?

Cast, on 30 August 2013 - 06:25 AM, said:

Yes to all that. Do you have an inkling who is who? Ie who is,a summoner.

Barghast, on 30 August 2013 - 08:56 AM, said:

Bek is 2/3 chance of being a summoner. He claims in PM a mechanic that allows him to generate any die he wants so presumably the 6 of Clubs, the remaining reset dice still pin him as those three, he's trying to weasel out of being pinned as a role. Could be South, LaRua or Cult. He can't be the Uni one and Cult don't have summoning I think from the OP. He's the only one I am even close to sure on - I'm 2/3 sure Liosan isn't a summoner by the same logic, if he is he is South or LaRua. No-one else has enough big dice on thread to narrow them down.

I'm sort of around for the next few hours on and off, not going to show on thread until late though, they don't want me as second, they can deal with it themselves. Demelain and Lock have been around before Days end/RNVP before so they can shift their votes. You know that if another vote goes down then you're presumably dead so how do you plan on revenge? Or would you like me to oblige? Mind you, until PS confirms the lynches you can presumably keep playing? Have we had situations before where there has actually got to be direct notification from PS as to who got lynched beyond what we can see for ourselves?

Okay, signalling. You've got some pretty clear ground to make chicken noises at anyone you want dead, how about we go on a theme with that - find a vaguely chicken/hedging post by the alt, cluck at them:

"Buck Awk" - University
"Buck Bark" - LaRua
"Cluck Awk" - South
"Cluck Erk" - Cult
"Cluck Bark" - Aces (yeah I don't really expect you to be outing your own team )

I can signal back to you in the same fashion for a day or two probably - I'll just say you're infectious if anyone queries it. Anything not those 5 will just not be a signal?

Barghast, on 30 August 2013 - 09:57 AM, said:

If I do hammer (got 40min yet by PS's Day start post) what do you want me to claim ill effects I've suffered for doing so? Or will I suffer?

Cast, on 30 August 2013 - 05:30 PM, said:

You won't suffer but you can make something up y to mess with their heads

[Barghast]

Telegram to Denul

Barghast, on 04 September 2013 - 10:35 AM, said:

Hey Denul, thank you for picking up. Bit of an info dump for you, read carefully Mine in Blue, D'rek in black

Confirmed and suspected roles:

D'rek suspects role distribution is 4-Uni / 4-Aces / 4-South / 3-LaRua / 3-Cult
(Uni is the only faction that also has to claim Mud Street to win by elimination - suspect this is because LaRua and Cult have only 3 members each) <---this


Uni (4):
Denul (Azath) - Student
Barghast (Messremb) - Enginseer
Grasp (D'rek) - Tesla
-- Alchembiomist

Aces (4):
Meanas - Ultama claimed he found Meanas as Aces
Fanderay - D'rek suspects Aces
Cast (Brujah) - Card Shark - possibly INSANE-- (he was on Mud Street Day 1 so has suffered same losses as you there)
--
--

LaRua (3):
Ultama - Hexslinger - DEAD
Jalan - suspect Channeler. Confirmed LaRua from my find, stayed at DDD after Liosans shoot out with him for a night at least
--

South (4):
Lock - Amy LaBelle, the Cardslinger (hero) - DEAD -- suspect promoted to hero after Emur modkilled to rebalance the game for South
Emurlahn - DEAD - suspect South
--
--

Cult (3):
Bek Okhan - Service Conductor - DEAD
Liosan (Gust Hubb) - Iron Worker (Got the PM out of him, is attached, D'rek is going to work at faking an Acquisition Agent and go fishing with Nimander. I "sold you out" for the information, see nearer the end.) - claims INSANE, inclined to believe him - Grasp has him thinking she's Locomindhive so is on his ex-team, his opening of a convo with her inclines me to believe so he's trying to help out his ex-team.
Nimander Golit (Shin) - Locomindhive



Unknown:

Demelain
Hanas <-modkill imminent
Hentos Ilm
Merrid
Rashan



We are planning to do Finds on the unknowns, or make Friendships with them and hint at Alchem abilities (The Red Pill is a good one - it doesn't sound too Potion-y, just make a blue pill/red pill Matrix reference).

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Codes:

1. If Grasp quotes a post and uses an animal in her post, it indicates she has learned the quoted player's faction.

Elephant = LaRua
Gopher = Aces
Koala Bear = Corporate Cult
Pony = South
Duck(ling) = University

ie:
Grasp, on 03 September 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

Blah blah blah this is a post

That's so dumb, you must be a my little pony fan!


^^this would be a code that Grasp found Jalan to be of the South faction.


2. Ditto for me but I'll mention a beverage:
Lager = LaRua
Ale = Aces
Beer = Corporate Cult
Whisky = South
Vodka = University



3. As always, capitalizing the first two letters of an alt name (ie: "FAnderay") seemingly by mistake indicates that you trust the player, but not necessarily that they are the Alchembiologist.

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Victory Conditions:

We need to kill LaRua and Cult, AND control Mud Street. What we are thinking is that we will focus on the killing part and you focus on the Mud Street investment part. You've got the 7/7/7/7 dice that are ideal for investing while we two have more specialized dice so can't invest so well. There's probably only Nimander, Liosan, Jalan and one other LaRua left that we need to kill, so try to push on Mud Street as soon as you can. But not at the expense of risking you dying of course!


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Various Infos:

1. Grasp gave Lio a fake role PM for herself as if she were the Locomindhive. Lio's now selling it to people. Hilarity ensues. A lot of people probably believe Grasp is the Loco. Our fake positing for this Telegram is:
a - you and Barg have an information-exchange deal from when you were Friends
b - Lio sells Barg my fake role PM
c - Barg sends it to you via Telegram
d - you reciprocate. We're not specifying the nature of the deal, it could be a hypothetical deal where Barg gives you info and you heal him at night, or some such. So if you don't want to spend a die sending back a Telegram, just say on-thread that you got 'it', 'it' was good and you will do a vague thing that you said you would. If you want to avoid a telegram etc back (that does after all build associations strongly for being team) then say something like "great thanks, location Tulips tonight?"/"ready and waiting for you" Tulips being code for a location of course. As an aside, Liosan thinks I'm genuine as the Card Shark and is selling that for info too - helps that I've already talked to the Shark and he hasn't, further details at end.

2. Grasp is camping on Mud Street with an Electric Fence, so moving off of Mud Street will cause 1 damage. Moving back does not.

3. We're trying to kill Lio tonight. Liosan is going to make Bettys a Public Location today, this may mess with the plans, we'll adapt as needed.

4. Feel free to try and run for Mayor or Judge. We also might do an Elect-Trick switch to you at some point if it's necessary. So keep your lynch choices as Liosan, Jalan or Nimander every day just in case! D'reks set on swapping for Mayor today, doesn't say on thread if the Mayor is swapped, just names whoever won as Mayor so should screw with Fanderay some.

I'm out of actions as of this thread so hoping an election comes off, will you be around for close of Day? I'm likely not going to be, if it needs it I'm going to get anthranthanthas to put his vote on the train too even though it'll make him a target, those XP will be dearly welcomed by my Bullets die. Plan for me at the moment is to start spawning Goats with Bullet Storm and have them go round nuking tiles, PS says I'll get a report of who was hit so it's a good combined find/hitter. Should have an on-thread signal for where'll be next, I'll comment on the weather. May be two posts in the same day so keep an eye out!

Fantastic(ly, etc) means a Wilderness, lovely a Public and usual a Private. Sun means lowest location number, rain second, cloudy third, overcast 4th (numbered as per OP) - so a "it's fantastically sunny out today, why am I stuck in an office" means DDD (loc 6), a "usual grey overcast moody sort of day" means Rickety Shack (loc 4)

This is what I sold you out to Liosan as:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 11:42 PM, said:

Actually, you know what, fuck it. I'm the Card Shark. Jalan is hinting on thread why there have been no more RRs - it's because he knows how many summons he cast Day 1 and knows I was there too, therefore I am also insane and no longer part of anyones VCs. Incidentally, he didn't shift his ass from DDD that Night so he may still be there if you have a good shot.

You know your shoot out with Jalan? I wagered Jalan that Day under RR rules, nice choice of shoot out location - loser is forced to attack himself, using all the highest dice available - bullet, aim etc.

Cast is Scion of LaRua, didn't get any role abilities out of him and Denul is South, no further info.

Now I'm expecting this PM to be your own but claimed to be from someone else you know

Barghast, on 04 September 2013 - 12:44 AM, said:

Liosan, on 04 September 2013 - 12:41 AM, said:

I am also confused by your read on Denul. Was that a find, conjecture or BS?

Possibly BS but I doubt it. Cast did a Find on him and quoted me PS's results, plus a bit more than he was intending to, hence me narrowing him down to a single roll. No editing of PMs is a nice rule, I've got about half a page of swearing off him

Cast sang like a nightingale, he effectively outed himself with his answers to the set of questions we came up with - he answered for every item and every ability. RR on a location the loser attacks themselves with highest dice. He said he'd be going to Mormons House where his insanity will damage LaRua till he dies - I suggested he get into the location convo there, hence his shoot out on thread that Fanderay refused.




D'reks fake Loco:



And her convo with Liosan after he re-opened talks with her:

Grasp, on 04 September 2013 - 04:43 AM, said:

Here's my convo with him so far today. I didn't want to seem too eager to accept the lies you're feeding him in case he gets suspicious of us colluding, so played it as being skeptical of you but liking you. Should work just about perfect.

Liosan, on 04 September 2013 - 12:06 AM, said:

Basically, as I said, I still support you. I haven't given you away to Bargy (who thinks you are CC but wants to gain your trust by faking being the Locohivemind), though I did give him my role sheet (labeled as someone else's) to get some really good intel. But first

Liosan, on 04 September 2013 - 12:10 AM, said:

So here's the scoop yo: Bargy is insane, I doubt NG is on our team, but who the 4th member is, still working on that. You basically could win it for us still and screw everyone over, which would give me joy. As soon as I get this damn baby outta my arms, I'll dump what I know on you, free o charge

Liosan, on 04 September 2013 - 12:19 AM, said:

Oh and one other thing, Barghy does seem like a good one. Help him if it doesn't conflict w/ CC, and esp if you knock off a LaRau or two.

Liosan, on 04 September 2013 - 01:15 AM, said:

Ok, starting the dump (aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh)

Quotes from NG:

"I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume there are abilities in the game that can intercept communications like this, so I'll start off by saying I am not going to reveal the name of our faction, just in case.

My ability allows me to connect specifically with other members of my faction only, with the caveat that the ability also permanently blocks any chance of other off-thread comms for my teammate afterwards. So...if you had comms with someone earlier, I apologize for breaking them. And if you were hoping to forge any comms, er...sorry about that too.

If you can think of a clever way to confirm we are of the same faction without actually spelling it out in this convo, I'm all ears. I would at least hope as the game progresses it will become obvious on thread that we are working for the same team in some manner. I certainly won't vote for any mayor appointing a judge out to get you. (unless of course we figure out that lynching is helpful in some way, if you have some ability or something).

This is Shinrei by the way, so I apologize in advance for having a lousy timezone.

I don't know who anyone else is, yet. You're the first person I've established contact with.

Let me go look at the numbers and get you my role.

I am the only 1/3/6 pixie dust.

I don't have anything that can help your sanity, although I can start giving you XP as of tomorrow.

I have been fucked by my timezone again. I was waiting to see whether I would be needed to vote on thread or not, before I made my final decision on actions. The lynch happened while I was asleep and I have, subsequently, taken no actions at all over day 2.
You will get one xp at the end of each day. Will that help you in time?

Problem is, this timezone also appears to mean i get severely limited PS coverage. I still dont know if he is allowing any of my scrambled last minute actions.

If you can tell me where you end up locationwise, thatd be good."

Liosan, on 04 September 2013 - 01:16 AM, said:

Lock:
"Yes, it's sanity. It's a hex that hits the entire location. Just a heads up so you don't think it is an attack. If you want, you can move away move phase 1, and back move phase 2. I might just stick here for a while. I'm not interested in taking locations as a whole, but I wanted to try for this one tonight. Are you going for it? I don't want to waste pips battling over it. I'll move to rickety shack or something, but I need the Pixie dusts.

Jalan is also not my faction, so if he stays, let's kill him. Or I could wager him to make him use stuff, then we both attack him tonight?

Yes, done in night phase. All players at location, including me, lose sanity. I'm not much of a Hex user, but this is a self buff. Also, so you're not going for ownership of this location?

Ok. Check it. No longer doing the night action on this location. Safe to stay. I'm also not gonna go for this one, u can have it. I'm moving out phase 2. I attacked Jalan with u. Wager during day, attack during night. So with your day attack, my day wager, plus my night attack hits him no matter where he goes if I win my wager, and if you can hit him again tonight, we might be able to kill him, and both gain the XP from it.

If we successfully kill him, and gain XP and whatever else, we should try to team up and kill someone from time to time. If we repeat what we did today, it should make for a decent double attack. After today, send me telegram if you find someone location and want to both hit them. Or say help if you need heal. I can't guarantee I can get there, but I'll try. I will expect you to do the same for me. This could be very helpful in long run. And worst case scenario is that later in game, we are on enemy factions, but it won't really change things then. We will just cancel alliance and do what we have to. I just say we wait until we have to. Also, if you find any of your faction, get them on board. I will keep my team off you for now, and that's a powerful ally to have. With this set up, there's not much room for back stabbing. We can just stop helping each other when we have to, or want to.

No hex from me, attacked Jalan by destroying an item instead. If I win my wager, it will let me attack him even if he moves. And yes, if you don't want to waste an attack on him tonight, then don't. I think the XP we gain if we kill him is worth the shot, though. We can add one to any of our dice permanently. So if you're low in luck or dodge, add one. XP gains might be very helpful in long run. Imagine if we can get like +5.

Hey! We can also vow to make each other judge if selected mayor. That's another XP gain."

Liosan, on 04 September 2013 - 01:20 AM, said:

Merrid:

"Sorry for taking so long to reply.

Alright. I have an ability which, if I target successfully, can tell me what used Temporary Alts do. I've only been successful once, but I think it's definitely of use to you. All those who are standing at the same location as the Longhorn when it's killed, no matter which faction they belong to, are granted 1 pip of health. Now, a Longhorn has been killed every day at Outlaw's Refuge, presumably by the Cattle Thief, and that location still hasn't been taken over, so odds are that they'll still be there for today, and that we'll see another Longhorn death there.


Do you have any other info you'd be willing to share about others? I might have other info to share as well."

Liosan, on 04 September 2013 - 01:23 AM, said:

As I said, if you could avoid targeting Barghy, I told him I wasn't putting the hit out on him. As I said, great helpful convo and all

Liosan, on 04 September 2013 - 01:26 AM, said:

More Bargy:

"
I'm more Wager orientated although I have a trick or two up my sleeve which may or may not be apparent from the OP."

Grasp, on 04 September 2013 - 04:17 AM, said:

Thanks Lio, I really do appreciate it. Sadly, based on the VCs I think there is no 4th member of our faction - University has to kill us and the LaRua, but unlike the other factions they also need to get Mud Street. With 18 players it'd be a 4 / 4 / 4 / 3 / 3 faction split. So I bet LaRua and us are the ones with only 3 members, and the University need to get Mud Street to balance the fact that they only need to kill 6 players instead of 7 or 8 like the other factions.


I've got a convo going with Bargy, too. He didn't claim Card Shark to me yet, but was hinting towards Aces. I'll tell him you put in a good word for him and that I'll leave him well enough alone if he does likewise. Obviously by the end of the game we'll have to turn on him at some point, as Aces must die for Cult to win (I don't think an investment victory is likely now), but we can leave him for last and/or hope someone else offs him instead of us. I do like his analyses on-thread and he's a more active player so seeing him live longer'd be fine by me.

I dunno if I believe that he's also insane, though.

Grasp, on 04 September 2013 - 04:19 AM, said:

What's the bit about ending up at the same location as Barghy? Did you talk him into healing you? I saw you did Constitution earlier, is that from taking a hit last night or just from your Insanity-self-attack?

Grasp, on 04 September 2013 - 04:37 AM, said:

Okay, doing a deeper dive of your quoted convos:


Shin/NG - Not sure what to believe here. Kinda skeptical of the whole thing, for obvious reasons. The Pixie thing is probably just a lie to make you think he's Loco, which makes sense - getting other players to think you have tons of health and sanity is a good way to avoid NAs. The comms-that-blocks-other-comms thing he talks about - did that happen? Were you in other lover convos on the same day as with him? What about his supposed XP giving ability, did that ever come through for you? If he's really trying to sell you on his story so much that he sends you free XP, be sure to milk that for all its worth!

Lock - All seems pretty legit and jives with his CF. Agreed Jalan is not of his faction. Barg thinks Jalan is LaRua and I think so, too.

Merrid - sounds like the Hell Hunter if he's being honest

Bargy - already covered in post above. Skeptical of his reveal but he's playing nice either way. My instinct is that if he's offering you a deal he'll play you straight. If he was gonna cheat you he'd just have used Russian Roulette instead

Grasp, on 04 September 2013 - 04:41 AM, said:

And lastly for tonight you better not die! Cause once you CF the University and LaRua punks are going to be hard on my ass after having Friendship with you two days in a row!

I reckon it's worth it though!

Hopefully I've not missed anything. There's an opening for you to do the reverse of what we're doing here to get messages back to one of us later in the game, might be worth considering.

Oh and I'm on holiday for a week from Saturday so my access is going to be crippled - there's not much mobile signal camping on Bodmin moor, I will try though. At the least I'll get actions in.

Just remember not to reply, this is a Telegram, not a convo!

Telegram from Cast

Cast, on 04 September 2013 - 11:10 AM, said:

Hi Barghast,

I may have an idea to gain sanity, it requires me winning a wager tomorrow. Would you move to betty's bar, or mudstreet tomorrow to play a wager with me? I will use knack before you decide and put it on a different location. Then we would only be playing the location wager which is unharmful to you. Could you message me back and let me know. Or just agree to it on thread. Tell me the location by saying jumping jack flash for bettys bar, or ghost for mud street.

Cast

[Barghast]

Barghast / Liosan:

Barghast, on 02 September 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

Hey Liosan, what's up?

Liosan, on 02 September 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

Hey. Busy this morning but should have some time in a couple of hours if you are around. Let me know what info interests you and we can trade

Liosan, on 02 September 2013 - 05:52 PM, said:

Merrid thinks I shouldn't trust you. Why is that?

Barghast, on 02 September 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

Hey, I'm back now. I'd be inclined to say because Merrid is a suspicious bugger.

What interests me? Hmm, a few things:

Your sanity, Merrids sanity. I've been trying to track our summoners/hexers and this is the only way to get them by their side effects.

I'm also interested in what you did to Jalan vs what Jalan claims you did to him.

Barghast, on 02 September 2013 - 09:02 PM, said:

Oh, also, what did you get out of Grasp?

I'd of course like your role too, but I don't expect that

Liosan, on 02 September 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

What are you offering in return? For starting the conversation, I will tell you I lost 5 sanity on Mud Street on Day/night 1

Barghast, on 02 September 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

What would you like to know?

Liosan, on 02 September 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

Roles/alignments mostly.

I also seek alliances/info that will help me survive.

That's what I seek.

Barghast, on 02 September 2013 - 09:36 PM, said:

Well to decide which roles I tell you about I'll need to know what you're looking for.

What manner or role are you? Wager? Fighter? Magic?

I'm more Wager orientated although I have a trick or two up my sleeve which may or may not be apparent from the OP.

Liosan, on 02 September 2013 - 11:53 PM, said:

More supportive. Frankly, what I need now is a good healer if you know any.

I am happy to devulge an roles you wish to attack and destroy. It is in my best interest to, as a weak attack, facilitate the elimination of those against my interests. So, if you have a particular enemy faction I'd be willing to help

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 12:02 AM, said:

Heh, Jalan did some damage to you then? There was me thinking you called him out intending to kick ass! Any comment on his claims that you restricted his bullet dice?

My attacks aren't particularly effective, I'm more effective when whipping Wagers out I've found so far - my incidental items do let me have a bite though.

I do believe I was asking you what factions you were looking for

I, as it happens, can do some healing, 3 pips worth in fact - I'll need a Night location (being a Night action and all) and depending on where it is some time to get into position.

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:06 AM, said:

Excellent. Betty's Bar this night.

Jalan is obviously lying scum, so what do you think I think .

Well, I am looking for a couple of factions (and I'll let you guess my intentions, whether benign or not): CC, LaRau, and Aces.

You?

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 12:13 AM, said:

Well I had to ask. So he decided not to use any Day actions and claim you as his excuse then - unfortunately I cannot see any investment actions that he could have put his bullets into instead so he's up to something else.

You put some thought into those 3 factions didn't you - the defining and, indeed, only real link is if you are University, which I don't think you are.

I'm looking for, in the same vein, University, South and LaRua.

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:

Hmm, thoguht, you don't have the Bank Robber sat on Bettys do you? I don't fancy getting trapped there...

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:20 AM, said:

Just a risk you'd have to take friend. I mean, Jalan never spoke of being trapped, and if you are trapped anywhere, why not on a place where you can restore health

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 12:23 AM, said:

Hah, it's not location dependant, I can do it anywhere when I can afford it. It does mean I can't do it to myself though so I'd be taking a chance. What's in it for me?

[Barghast]

Liosan...

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 12:25 AM, said:

By location dependant I do of course mean that it is on the same location as me, wherever I am. Damned ambiguous sentences.

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:27 AM, said:

Information on Meanas and Fanderay and My alignment.

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 12:28 AM, said:

But how do you propose to guarantee than when I heal you I'll recieve the information? It'll be Night phase, you won't know it worked till next Day, by when our conversation is ended.

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 12:30 AM, said:

Oooh hang on, you've done a Find on Fanders?

Grasp info would be useful too, to see if he's telling you the same story I'm getting

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 12:31 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 12:30 AM, said:

Grasp info would be useful too, to see if he's telling you the same story I'm getting

Or, at least, the small stuff I was getting when he was actually around. Nearly as bad as bloody Denul was.

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:35 AM, said:

I can definitely help with Grasp there. He gave me his evaluation on 3 separate players, 2 of 3 of which turned out to be entirely incorrect and useless.

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:37 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 12:28 AM, said:

But how do you propose to guarantee than when I heal you I'll recieve the information? It'll be Night phase, you won't know it worked till next Day, by when our conversation is ended.

I'll take my chances. Are those three pieces of info sufficient currency?

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:38 AM, said:

Moreover, I can feel more trusting if I get some info on some players' roles and factions.

And I have the entire role sheet on a player other than myself, but that will come at a very very high prepaid price.

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 12:40 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:38 AM, said:

Moreover, I can feel more trusting if I get some info on some players' roles and factions.

And I have the entire role sheet on a player other than myself, but that will come at a very very high prepaid price.

Ooooooooooooooohhhh that is handy stuff, mind telling who the role is, not the alt? How the hell did you manage to sucker that out of someone? "You show me yours and I'll show you mine"?

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:35 AM, said:

I can definitely help with Grasp there. He gave me his evaluation on 3 separate players, 2 of 3 of which turned out to be entirely incorrect and useless.

Hah, he told you who he was going for to lynch then? I was thinking more about the role is he.

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:43 AM, said:

Well, tell me what he is telling you, and I will be happy to compare notes.

And as for the role sheet, no information whatsoever without a massive payoff. Hopefully you understand

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 12:44 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:37 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 12:28 AM, said:

But how do you propose to guarantee than when I heal you I'll recieve the information? It'll be Night phase, you won't know it worked till next Day, by when our conversation is ended.

I'll take my chances. Are those three pieces of info sufficient currency?

Yes, but it is me taking the chance Sufficient, just seeking to make sure I get them rather than you taking the heal and running.

[Barghast]

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 12:50 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:43 AM, said:

Well, tell me what he is telling you, and I will be happy to compare notes.

And as for the role sheet, no information whatsoever without a massive payoff. Hopefully you understand

Sweet **** all so far, he's made a comment about building links between us and so he's either CC or he's fishing to see if I am. He couldn't be Service as that is dead and Locomindhive and Agent would have to have cheated, twice, to pay for conversations. Leads me to discard Loco and devalue Agent, 50% of cheat for 2 convos? Seems a high price to pay but could be trying to avoid being cast as a role. That only leaves Iron Worker who is the CC investment role, hence his travel history is pinned down by my daily counts. I imagine that investment could be traced back to see if Grasps on-thread actions leave him enough bullets for the investments each Day but I CBA to do that right now.

How big a payoff?

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:50 AM, said:

Ok, well here is that price then:

Grasp was pretty confident that Meanas was Aces (the only one of his predictions I have not confirmed). But more juicy, the reason Meanas went with Jalan was that Fanderay is apparently on his team (or so he said, but I was scheduled to be lynch, so keep that in mind as weight to my information).

As for my current alignment, well, I am insane, thoroughly and totally insane.

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:56 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 12:50 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:43 AM, said:

Well, tell me what he is telling you, and I will be happy to compare notes.

And as for the role sheet, no information whatsoever without a massive payoff. Hopefully you understand

Sweet **** all so far, he's made a comment about building links between us and so he's either CC or he's fishing to see if I am. He couldn't be Service as that is dead and Locomindhive and Agent would have to have cheated, twice, to pay for conversations. Leads me to discard Loco and devalue Agent, 50% of cheat for 2 convos? Seems a high price to pay but could be trying to avoid being cast as a role. That only leaves Iron Worker who is the CC investment role, hence his travel history is pinned down by my daily counts. I imagine that investment could be traced back to see if Grasps on-thread actions leave him enough bullets for the investments each Day but I CBA to do that right now.

How big a payoff?

Well, either a role sheet from you, or the 100% confirmed alignment and roles of 4 players not yet dead (3 before getting the goods and 1 after getting the goods).

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:58 AM, said:

Unfortunately, can't confirm the whole making connections thing. Here is a quote from our conversation:
"No offense, but if you say you're insane I can't trust you to truly remain loyal. AFAIK you can't come back from being Insane, so even if I think you won't sell me out now that could change further down the line when you're one day away from killing yourself and you find a healer offering his services for information on me, etc. So I won't admit to being any particular faction. I provided that info in good faith - it is accurate to the best of my knowledge - but obviously there's WIFOM of whether I said it because I'm Cult, or because I'm Uni, or because I'm one of those three trying to misdirect you.

I'm surprised you were able to lose 7 sanity so fast, though!"

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:59 AM, said:

I figure quotes are ok since I haven't been mod-killed for having that second character sheet....

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:04 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:50 AM, said:

Ok, well here is that price then:

Grasp was pretty confident that Meanas was Aces (the only one of his predictions I have not confirmed). But more juicy, the reason Meanas went with Jalan was that Fanderay is apparently on his team (or so he said, but I was scheduled to be lynch, so keep that in mind as weight to my information).

As more my current alignment, well, I am insane, thoroughly and totally insane.

Hah, okay, that's fair enough. Betty's isn't possible for me to get to at Night though, I'm out at the Fleece right now, Gold powers some of my items so I'm re-loading today. I can make it to Mud Street for Night, or Betty's for the Day/Night after if that is any use to you?

Although didn't you say he was wrong on his other two counts, therefore not massively likely to be right on that one? I'll try asking what he thought of the lynch results, I may play at Loco and claim some ability that'll allow me to heal sanity, that ought to get his attention and have him thinking past me at the rest of the game.

Did he hint if he had any confirmation of Aces? As in genuine, undoubtable find results? A Find would narrow down who he could be a lot. Of course that does raise the issue of which team Meanas/Fanderay are on, has Meanas shed any light on this, given he is one of them?

I seem to be having a lot of luck talking to nut-jobs Which were you before you were insane?

And yeah I had figured you were insane, anyone who started at Mud Street is likely insane - seemed too good a place to start to me with the investment bonus so I stayed clear.

You got a plan for the rest of the game? As a thought to consider, hilst you can heal your own Sanity it doesn't bring you back to team. I know a way for you to return to team.

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:08 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:59 AM, said:

I figure quotes are ok since I haven't been mod-killed for having that second character sheet....

PM's are anything goes except Hero sheets/PMs - if in doubt, check with PS first.

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:56 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 12:50 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:43 AM, said:

Well, tell me what he is telling you, and I will be happy to compare notes.

And as for the role sheet, no information whatsoever without a massive payoff. Hopefully you understand

Sweet **** all so far, he's made a comment about building links between us and so he's either CC or he's fishing to see if I am. He couldn't be Service as that is dead and Locomindhive and Agent would have to have cheated, twice, to pay for conversations. Leads me to discard Loco and devalue Agent, 50% of cheat for 2 convos? Seems a high price to pay but could be trying to avoid being cast as a role. That only leaves Iron Worker who is the CC investment role, hence his travel history is pinned down by my daily counts. I imagine that investment could be traced back to see if Grasps on-thread actions leave him enough bullets for the investments each Day but I CBA to do that right now.

How big a payoff?

Well, either a role sheet from you, or the 100% confirmed alignment and roles of 4 players not yet dead (3 before getting the goods and 1 after getting the goods).

4!!!!!

I don't think any role in the game could have found that many so far - so far as I know it is the same as Wagers and shooting - target has to be on the same tile. That's one hell of a price so I guess it is one that came easy from Grasp that he'll die before sharing again

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:12 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:04 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:50 AM, said:

Ok, well here is that price then:

Grasp was pretty confident that Meanas was Aces (the only one of his predictions I have not confirmed). But more juicy, the reason Meanas went with Jalan was that Fanderay is apparently on his team (or so he said, but I was scheduled to be lynch, so keep that in mind as weight to my information).

As more my current alignment, well, I am insane, thoroughly and totally insane.

Hah, okay, that's fair enough. Betty's isn't possible for me to get to at Night though, I'm out at the Fleece right now, Gold powers some of my items so I'm re-loading today. I can make it to Mud Street for Night, or Betty's for the Day/Night after if that is any use to you?

Although didn't you say he was wrong on his other two counts, therefore not massively likely to be right on that one? I'll try asking what he thought of the lynch results, I may play at Loco and claim some ability that'll allow me to heal sanity, that ought to get his attention and have him thinking past me at the rest of the game.

Did he hint if he had any confirmation of Aces? As in genuine, undoubtable find results? A Find would narrow down who he could be a lot. Of course that does raise the issue of which team Meanas/Fanderay are on, has Meanas shed any light on this, given he is one of them?

I seem to be having a lot of luck talking to nut-jobs Which were you before you were insane?

And yeah I had figured you were insane, anyone who started at Mud Street is likely insane - seemed too good a place to start to me with the investment bonus so I stayed clear.

You got a plan for the rest of the game? As a thought to consider, hilst you can heal your own Sanity it doesn't bring you back to team. I know a way for you to return to team.

I doubt it is a find, since he gave an 85% confidence in the statement. However, Meanas showed great interest in finding out what Grasp had to say about him, so dunno if Grasp was onto something or not...

Current plan, as stated before, is survival. Pure and simple. I figure as long as I am useful, I can dodge the reaper a little longer.

Who else is insane? And how can I return to my team? 0_o

[Barghast]

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:14 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:08 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:59 AM, said:

I figure quotes are ok since I haven't been mod-killed for having that second character sheet....

PM's are anything goes except Hero sheets/PMs - if in doubt, check with PS first.

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:56 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 12:50 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:43 AM, said:

Well, tell me what he is telling you, and I will be happy to compare notes.

And as for the role sheet, no information whatsoever without a massive payoff. Hopefully you understand

Sweet **** all so far, he's made a comment about building links between us and so he's either CC or he's fishing to see if I am. He couldn't be Service as that is dead and Locomindhive and Agent would have to have cheated, twice, to pay for conversations. Leads me to discard Loco and devalue Agent, 50% of cheat for 2 convos? Seems a high price to pay but could be trying to avoid being cast as a role. That only leaves Iron Worker who is the CC investment role, hence his travel history is pinned down by my daily counts. I imagine that investment could be traced back to see if Grasps on-thread actions leave him enough bullets for the investments each Day but I CBA to do that right now.

How big a payoff?

Well, either a role sheet from you, or the 100% confirmed alignment and roles of 4 players not yet dead (3 before getting the goods and 1 after getting the goods).

4!!!!!

I don't think any role in the game could have found that many so far - so far as I know it is the same as Wagers and shooting - target has to be on the same tile. That's one hell of a price so I guess it is one that came easy from Grasp that he'll die before sharing again

Indeed, 4. It is quite the find. Gives all the abilities and tools available to a role. 4 roles/alignments is cheap ! If I am still alive later in the game, you can always return with the goods (plus 1 more) and it will still be available.

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:16 AM, said:

I will meet you at betty's bar in that timeframe then. I can wait.

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:26 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:12 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:04 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:50 AM, said:

Ok, well here is that price then:

Grasp was pretty confident that Meanas was Aces (the only one of his predictions I have not confirmed). But more juicy, the reason Meanas went with Jalan was that Fanderay is apparently on his team (or so he said, but I was scheduled to be lynch, so keep that in mind as weight to my information).

As more my current alignment, well, I am insane, thoroughly and totally insane.

Hah, okay, that's fair enough. Betty's isn't possible for me to get to at Night though, I'm out at the Fleece right now, Gold powers some of my items so I'm re-loading today. I can make it to Mud Street for Night, or Betty's for the Day/Night after if that is any use to you?

Although didn't you say he was wrong on his other two counts, therefore not massively likely to be right on that one? I'll try asking what he thought of the lynch results, I may play at Loco and claim some ability that'll allow me to heal sanity, that ought to get his attention and have him thinking past me at the rest of the game.

Did he hint if he had any confirmation of Aces? As in genuine, undoubtable find results? A Find would narrow down who he could be a lot. Of course that does raise the issue of which team Meanas/Fanderay are on, has Meanas shed any light on this, given he is one of them?

I seem to be having a lot of luck talking to nut-jobs Which were you before you were insane?

And yeah I had figured you were insane, anyone who started at Mud Street is likely insane - seemed too good a place to start to me with the investment bonus so I stayed clear.

You got a plan for the rest of the game? As a thought to consider, hilst you can heal your own Sanity it doesn't bring you back to team. I know a way for you to return to team.

I doubt it is a find, since he gave an 85% confidence in the statement. However, Meanas showed great interest in finding out what Grasp had to say about him, so dunno if Grasp was onto something or not...

Current plan, as stated before, is survival. Pure and simple. I figure as long as I am useful, I can dodge the reaper a little longer.

Who else is insane? And how can I return to my team? 0_o

Well of course he would, same as Grasp wants me to find out what you're saying about him - anything you fancy me passing on to him?

TBH, it's a faction game with an ever increasing rota of independants. I'll be amazed if everyone isn't trying to stir shit for *anyone* else on the basis that they're probably not on their own team. Anyone who thinks they've found an ally has almost certainly found someone who is just that better a bullshitter than they are. The question isn't which faction wins, it is which independant wins. And yeah my own sanity has suffered, even out in the Wilderness. You remember my early post saying why all summoners/hexers need to die? Now look at the field - we have 17 temp alts. What if one has an attack? Or three? Ten? We're fucked. We can't wager them, we can shoot maybe 2 a Night each, if we ignore Mayor, if they're on the same location. Summoners are the late power in this game and we're doing a shit job of corraling them, in which I agree with Grasps logic in his lynch choices.

Cast is insane - I'll give you this, he's been whacked since Night 2. Now 2/3 of the people I've spoken to are insane and 1/3 has done a cantrip to increase sanity. I'm just suprised Denul is the only one. I'm thinking people have either dared not show True Grit for fear of being seen as weak or have been taken past the point of recover in a single night.

As you're claiming insanity, you're not a faction therefore not a target to VCs I think - you don't nessecarilly have to die in order for one faction to win out, I think the insantiy win is last survivor?

Well now, telling you how to return to team would come at a high price, being very valuable information and all

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:33 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:16 AM, said:

I will meet you at betty's bar in that timeframe then. I can wait.

Okay, Night+1 it is, it'll be [+3] to your left most die.

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:14 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:08 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:59 AM, said:

I figure quotes are ok since I haven't been mod-killed for having that second character sheet....

PM's are anything goes except Hero sheets/PMs - if in doubt, check with PS first.

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:56 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 12:50 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:43 AM, said:

Well, tell me what he is telling you, and I will be happy to compare notes.

And as for the role sheet, no information whatsoever without a massive payoff. Hopefully you understand

Sweet **** all so far, he's made a comment about building links between us and so he's either CC or he's fishing to see if I am. He couldn't be Service as that is dead and Locomindhive and Agent would have to have cheated, twice, to pay for conversations. Leads me to discard Loco and devalue Agent, 50% of cheat for 2 convos? Seems a high price to pay but could be trying to avoid being cast as a role. That only leaves Iron Worker who is the CC investment role, hence his travel history is pinned down by my daily counts. I imagine that investment could be traced back to see if Grasps on-thread actions leave him enough bullets for the investments each Day but I CBA to do that right now.

How big a payoff?

Well, either a role sheet from you, or the 100% confirmed alignment and roles of 4 players not yet dead (3 before getting the goods and 1 after getting the goods).

4!!!!!

I don't think any role in the game could have found that many so far - so far as I know it is the same as Wagers and shooting - target has to be on the same tile. That's one hell of a price so I guess it is one that came easy from Grasp that he'll die before sharing again

Indeed, 4. It is quite the find. Gives all the abilities and tools available to a role. 4 roles/alignments is cheap ! If I am still alive later in the game, you can always return with the goods (plus 1 more) and it will still be available.

Aye, I see that. There are only a limited pool of people it can have come from too, so I'm very curious indeed. Heh, higher fee for later? Damned banks I'll see if I can wriggle anything new out of Grasp I can use - do you have the PM with him still so I can probe him and compare answers?

[Barghast]

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:36 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:17 AM, said:

Denul, Rash, NG! What ever happened to the love?

Bullets[4]

Hey, I was going to be Nimaders first, hands off you hussy!

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:45 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:33 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:16 AM, said:

I will meet you at betty's bar in that timeframe then. I can wait.

Okay, Night+1 it is, it'll be [+3] to your left most die.

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:14 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:08 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:59 AM, said:

I figure quotes are ok since I haven't been mod-killed for having that second character sheet....

PM's are anything goes except Hero sheets/PMs - if in doubt, check with PS first.

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:46 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:36 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:17 AM, said:

Denul, Rash, NG! What ever happened to the love?

Bullets[4]

Hey, I was going to be Nimaders first, hands off you hussy!

Haha. I asked him yesterday already. Just holding him up to his promises

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:50 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:46 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:36 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:17 AM, said:

Denul, Rash, NG! What ever happened to the love?

Bullets[4]

Hey, I was going to be Nimaders first, hands off you hussy!

Haha. I asked him yesterday already. Just holding him up to his promises

Ha! As did I! Now to find which of us was first to ask...

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:50 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:26 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:12 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:04 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:50 AM, said:

Ok, well here is that price then:

Grasp was pretty confident that Meanas was Aces (the only one of his predictions I have not confirmed). But more juicy, the reason Meanas went with Jalan was that Fanderay is apparently on his team (or so he said, but I was scheduled to be lynch, so keep that in mind as weight to my information).

As more my current alignment, well, I am insane, thoroughly and totally insane.

Hah, okay, that's fair enough. Betty's isn't possible for me to get to at Night though, I'm out at the Fleece right now, Gold powers some of my items so I'm re-loading today. I can make it to Mud Street for Night, or Betty's for the Day/Night after if that is any use to you?

Although didn't you say he was wrong on his other two counts, therefore not massively likely to be right on that one? I'll try asking what he thought of the lynch results, I may play at Loco and claim some ability that'll allow me to heal sanity, that ought to get his attention and have him thinking past me at the rest of the game.

Did he hint if he had any confirmation of Aces? As in genuine, undoubtable find results? A Find would narrow down who he could be a lot. Of course that does raise the issue of which team Meanas/Fanderay are on, has Meanas shed any light on this, given he is one of them?

I seem to be having a lot of luck talking to nut-jobs Which were you before you were insane?

And yeah I had figured you were insane, anyone who started at Mud Street is likely insane - seemed too good a place to start to me with the investment bonus so I stayed clear.

You got a plan for the rest of the game? As a thought to consider, hilst you can heal your own Sanity it doesn't bring you back to team. I know a way for you to return to team.

I doubt it is a find, since he gave an 85% confidence in the statement. However, Meanas showed great interest in finding out what Grasp had to say about him, so dunno if Grasp was onto something or not...

Current plan, as stated before, is survival. Pure and simple. I figure as long as I am useful, I can dodge the reaper a little longer.

Who else is insane? And how can I return to my team? 0_o

Well of course he would, same as Grasp wants me to find out what you're saying about him - anything you fancy me passing on to him?

TBH, it's a faction game with an ever increasing rota of independants. I'll be amazed if everyone isn't trying to stir shit for *anyone* else on the basis that they're probably not on their own team. Anyone who thinks they've found an ally has almost certainly found someone who is just that better a bullshitter than they are. The question isn't which faction wins, it is which independant wins. And yeah my own sanity has suffered, even out in the Wilderness. You remember my early post saying why all summoners/hexers need to die? Now look at the field - we have 17 temp alts. What if one has an attack? Or three? Ten? We're fucked. We can't wager them, we can shoot maybe 2 a Night each, if we ignore Mayor, if they're on the same location. Summoners are the late power in this game and we're doing a shit job of corraling them, in which I agree with Grasps logic in his lynch choices.

Cast is insane - I'll give you this, he's been whacked since Night 2. Now 2/3 of the people I've spoken to are insane and 1/3 has done a cantrip to increase sanity. I'm just suprised Denul is the only one. I'm thinking people have either dared not show True Grit for fear of being seen as weak or have been taken past the point of recover in a single night.

As you're claiming insanity, you're not a faction therefore not a target to VCs I think - you don't nessecarilly have to die in order for one faction to win out, I think the insantiy win is last survivor?

Well now, telling you how to return to team would come at a high price, being very valuable information and all

See, this is the astute, sweet talking, genius that I enjoyed watching.

You are totally correct on summoners and hexers. I knew through my conversation with Lock that he was one of the sanity pollutants, but he is now dead and so my intel on him is useless. Really, people's best bet (those who are not part of the Southerners, LaRau, and University) is to disseminate information as quickly as possible so as to put these factions under the sword. Problem is, once you're insane, you could care less about the magicks. You are already lost, and the only thing that matters is survival.

I am happy to disseminate information, but I need more info to be useful, hence my prices.

.

.

.

.

[Barghast]

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:52 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:50 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:46 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:36 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:17 AM, said:

Denul, Rash, NG! What ever happened to the love?

Bullets[4]

Hey, I was going to be Nimaders first, hands off you hussy!

Haha. I asked him yesterday already. Just holding him up to his promises

Ha! As did I! Now to find which of us was first to ask...

Ha - #1376

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:54 AM, said:

Well, let me know what he says if you get him first. I was talking to him a couple of days ago. I just wanted to talk to him again

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 02:06 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:50 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:26 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:12 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 01:04 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:50 AM, said:

Ok, well here is that price then:

Grasp was pretty confident that Meanas was Aces (the only one of his predictions I have not confirmed). But more juicy, the reason Meanas went with Jalan was that Fanderay is apparently on his team (or so he said, but I was scheduled to be lynch, so keep that in mind as weight to my information).

As more my current alignment, well, I am insane, thoroughly and totally insane.

Hah, okay, that's fair enough. Betty's isn't possible for me to get to at Night though, I'm out at the Fleece right now, Gold powers some of my items so I'm re-loading today. I can make it to Mud Street for Night, or Betty's for the Day/Night after if that is any use to you?

Although didn't you say he was wrong on his other two counts, therefore not massively likely to be right on that one? I'll try asking what he thought of the lynch results, I may play at Loco and claim some ability that'll allow me to heal sanity, that ought to get his attention and have him thinking past me at the rest of the game.

Did he hint if he had any confirmation of Aces? As in genuine, undoubtable find results? A Find would narrow down who he could be a lot. Of course that does raise the issue of which team Meanas/Fanderay are on, has Meanas shed any light on this, given he is one of them?

I seem to be having a lot of luck talking to nut-jobs Which were you before you were insane?

And yeah I had figured you were insane, anyone who started at Mud Street is likely insane - seemed too good a place to start to me with the investment bonus so I stayed clear.

You got a plan for the rest of the game? As a thought to consider, hilst you can heal your own Sanity it doesn't bring you back to team. I know a way for you to return to team.

I doubt it is a find, since he gave an 85% confidence in the statement. However, Meanas showed great interest in finding out what Grasp had to say about him, so dunno if Grasp was onto something or not...

Current plan, as stated before, is survival. Pure and simple. I figure as long as I am useful, I can dodge the reaper a little longer.

Who else is insane? And how can I return to my team? 0_o

Well of course he would, same as Grasp wants me to find out what you're saying about him - anything you fancy me passing on to him?

TBH, it's a faction game with an ever increasing rota of independants. I'll be amazed if everyone isn't trying to stir shit for *anyone* else on the basis that they're probably not on their own team. Anyone who thinks they've found an ally has almost certainly found someone who is just that better a bullshitter than they are. The question isn't which faction wins, it is which independant wins. And yeah my own sanity has suffered, even out in the Wilderness. You remember my early post saying why all summoners/hexers need to die? Now look at the field - we have 17 temp alts. What if one has an attack? Or three? Ten? We're fucked. We can't wager them, we can shoot maybe 2 a Night each, if we ignore Mayor, if they're on the same location. Summoners are the late power in this game and we're doing a shit job of corraling them, in which I agree with Grasps logic in his lynch choices.

Cast is insane - I'll give you this, he's been whacked since Night 2. Now 2/3 of the people I've spoken to are insane and 1/3 has done a cantrip to increase sanity. I'm just suprised Denul is the only one. I'm thinking people have either dared not show True Grit for fear of being seen as weak or have been taken past the point of recover in a single night.

As you're claiming insanity, you're not a faction therefore not a target to VCs I think - you don't nessecarilly have to die in order for one faction to win out, I think the insantiy win is last survivor?

Well now, telling you how to return to team would come at a high price, being very valuable information and all

See, this is the astute, sweet talking, genius that I enjoyed watching.

You are totally correct on summoners and hexers. I knew through my conversation with Lock that he was one of the sanity pollutants, but he is now dead and so my intel on him is useless. Really, people's best bet (those who are not part of the Southerners, LaRau, and University) is to disseminate information as quickly as possible so as to put these factions under the sword. Problem is, once you're insane, you could care less about the magicks. You are already lost, and the only thing that matters is survival.

I am happy to disseminate information, but I need more info to be useful, hence my prices.

Sweet talking? Aww you big sweetie you

Yeah I know I'm right about them

Once they're insane there are no limits beyond what they can summon per round. That makes it bad for everyone still sane, as I said on thread. If you fancy pooling information - I was on Fleece Springs on night 1 and lost one sanity. Denul claimed loss of 6 sanity on Mud Spring the same time and Cast claimed 3 first night and 2 second. I have since lost 2 sanity on DDD Night 2, nothing Night 3. There don't seem to be corresponding roles to investments so I'm thinking summoners are concentrating soley on summoning whereever they are and everyone else on investments or missing targets with wagers/attacks lots (like I've been doing) I have been wondering if summoned beasts can affect investments (al la my goat shit on thread, but in a positive way - how else to explain the +8, 8, 8, 8 on the Shack in a single night.

Do bear in mind any information you get from someone not yourself is subject to doubt and differing interpretations - look at Mud Street, I now have 3 different accounts of the Sanity loss on night 1 there.

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:13 AM, said:

You were coming after me and or Jalan on night 2 weren't you?

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 02:15 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:13 AM, said:

You were coming after me and or Jalan on night 2 weren't you?

Nope, I'd gone there for pixie dust actually - I figured Jalan would have scarpered and you'd be chasing him down somewhere. I guessed that with you two playing with each other you wouldn't be taking pot-shots at anyone else and hey it paid off. You never did say what you did to Jalan...

[Barghast]

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 02:18 AM, said:

FWIW, I should have targeted one of you two with a Wager, I may have got some cheaper then but with the Russian Roulette turning up I was *rather* glad I hadn't.

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:18 AM, said:

That is cause I never did anything to him. I moved him to DDD, sic'd Lock on him and ran like the smart man that I am.

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:19 AM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 02:18 AM, said:

FWIW, I should have targeted one of you two with a Wager, I may have got some cheaper then but with the Russian Roulette turning up I was *rather* glad I hadn't.

Haha. Smart man. Probably lost sanity thanks to Lock though...

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:20 AM, said:

Well, I need to head to bed. Feel free to leave more questions and tidbits to help me grease the wheels of killing off everyone that is not me (AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAaaaaahem....).

Talk you you in the morning.

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 02:30 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:18 AM, said:

That is cause I never did anything to him. I moved him to DDD, sic'd Lock on him and ran like the smart man that I am.

Hah, I like it, drag him out and run! Now what are the chances he's the Locomindhive and can't actually move anywhere from there?

If Lock wasn't dead I'd have to now take a shot at him, all hail Grasp, 1/3 hitter of summoners - better than the rest of us so far, even accounting for friendly fire.

So you got any clues as to who/where the rest may be? I had figured you did the shoot out because you found yourself trapped by the Bank Robbers no-move-away clause; so wherever the Robber may be is likely to be a summoner trap - if he stays still then assuming they're roaming they'll all end up either stuck there or trying for shoot-outs of their own to get away. Makes easy targets, especially if summoning is powered with gold or pixie dust which seems likely as a mechanic to restrict the number of creatures summoned. We need to track the Robber down, seriously. And get them to stay somewhere where we can kill alts - Outlaws Refuge seems a likely Night spot for anyone needing gold/pixie - one step away from either resource so can get to it in night thus avoiding attacks at the resource locations, back to the gold/pixie for Day to dig out some more. If we can get the Robber to there and wander in and start taking pot-shots we should quickly narrow down the field. Mud Street we need to keep him away from though, no-one can afford to have Wanted status.

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

You there?

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 11:13 PM, said:

Now I am.

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 11:15 PM, said:

Barghast, on 03 September 2013 - 02:30 AM, said:

Liosan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:18 AM, said:

That is cause I never did anything to him. I moved him to DDD, sic'd Lock on him and ran like the smart man that I am.

Hah, I like it, drag him out and run! Now what are the chances he's the Locomindhive and can't actually move anywhere from there?

If Lock wasn't dead I'd have to now take a shot at him, all hail Grasp, 1/3 hitter of summoners - better than the rest of us so far, even accounting for friendly fire.

So you got any clues as to who/where the rest may be? I had figured you did the shoot out because you found yourself trapped by the Bank Robbers no-move-away clause; so wherever the Robber may be is likely to be a summoner trap - if he stays still then assuming they're roaming they'll all end up either stuck there or trying for shoot-outs of their own to get away. Makes easy targets, especially if summoning is powered with gold or pixie dust which seems likely as a mechanic to restrict the number of creatures summoned. We need to track the Robber down, seriously. And get them to stay somewhere where we can kill alts - Outlaws Refuge seems a likely Night spot for anyone needing gold/pixie - one step away from either resource so can get to it in night thus avoiding attacks at the resource locations, back to the gold/pixie for Day to dig out some more. If we can get the Robber to there and wander in and start taking pot-shots we should quickly narrow down the field. Mud Street we need to keep him away from though, no-one can afford to have Wanted status.

No idea where the robber may be. Jalan was my vehicle to escape mud street and the magical carnage happening there. Obviously, that escape ultimately failed.

I do like the idea with the robber... To bad no one is going to confess to it.