[Jalan]

Path-Shaper, on 23 August 2013 - 03:32 PM, said:

Jalan, on 23 August 2013 - 03:32 PM, said:

Question - if I manage to summon a Fallen Angel, could I then Mirror it? Considering the Mirror dies at the end of the cycle, would it trigger the 'When Fallen Angel is destroyed...' location destroying ability?

Yes, and yes.

Jalan, on 23 August 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 23 August 2013 - 03:32 PM, said:

Jalan, on 23 August 2013 - 03:32 PM, said:

Question - if I manage to summon a Fallen Angel, could I then Mirror it? Considering the Mirror dies at the end of the cycle, would it trigger the 'When Fallen Angel is destroyed...' location destroying ability?

Yes, and yes.

Holy shit.... That's intense. I could destroy half the map in 4 days!

Jalan, on 23 August 2013 - 06:59 PM, said:

Okay, I don't know if you've seen the discussion that Stalker and I were having in the Family Portrait conversation.

My Mosquito Swarm gets summoned and dies by end of the first Night Phase. Stalker suggested that I could do a small summon, send it over to his tile, and have him kill it for XP. However, given that you've changed the resolution of summons to the end of the Day Phase, and given that Night Actions need to be submitted before end of Day Phase, this is now impossible, whereas it would have been possible if summons were resolved at the Rien Ne Va Plus point of the day like originally.

Was the change of the Summons resolutions to end of day to counteract this, or is there something we can do to use the above strategy?

Path-Shaper, on 23 August 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

You can submit actions for alts that yoy expect to be summoned in subsequent phases. The key is, do they get summoned?

Only P-S knows that ;-)

Path-Shaper, on 25 August 2013 - 10:40 AM, said:

Jalan, on 23 August 2013 - 09:44 PM, said:

Its more that I want Stalker to be able to target my summons, but he can't if he doesn't know their salt names.

Can he submit an action targeting my summons? Like, can he say, I wanna target the Mosquito Swarm Blend is attempting to summon today?

Mwah. Preferably not.

OK, let's settle on this:

give me the alt names you want stuff to be summoned into that Stalker can then target.
Since summons go by die size, smallest summon will have the least chance to be created. So, cheap summons are the endangered ones.
BTW, did you notice how Mosquito Swarms can be used to reset the Hellbeasts' dice?

Jalan, on 25 August 2013 - 07:24 PM, said:

I didn't realize there was a chance that my summons could not be successful.

Did I successfully summon my Familiar and my Hellbeast during Night 1?

I hadn't thought of using the Mosquito Swarm to reset my Hellbeasts' dice, actually, but I see how it can be done now. That's cool.

Path-Shaper, on 25 August 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

Jalan, on 25 August 2013 - 07:25 PM, said:

Also, you didn't show the dice that I invested into Mud Street on the update.

Knew I had forgotten something
Will set it right in the morning.

Path-Shaper, on 26 August 2013 - 06:55 AM, said:

Jalan, on 25 August 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

How is it decided if a summon is successful or not? And you didn't answer me about whether or not my Familiar and 2nd Hell Beast summons were successful.

They were successful.

For the procedure, assuming you have all necessary dice:

1) I check if someone is guarding you;
2) I check if someone is messing with your dice;
3) I compare the number of summons with the number of available alts for that day;
4) If the number of summons is smaller, everyone gets their summon;
5) If the number of summons is bigger, I put all summons from top to bottom in cost, and process the X highest ones, where X is the number of alts available.

[Jalan]

Path-Shaper, on 26 August 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 August 2013 - 10:48 AM, said:

Regarding Sanity during day/night cycle 1:

you lose 1 sanity from summoning your Familiar, 0 Sanity from summoning your second Hellhound, and 3 Sanity from undisclosed effects, setting your Sanity to 2.

What alts are my Familiar and 2nd Hellhound in?

Did my attacks land?

Aparal Forge for the Hellbeast, Anomandaris for the Familiar.
The attack on Liosan hit.

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

Cool, okay, so I use my speed dice to reset my bullet dice, and I use my Attunement dice to reset all seven magic dice, that means all my dice should now be reset (cept Speed & Attunement of course)

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

Okay, next question, my Hellbeast hit Liosan, as you said above. If I understand attacks correctly, given my Hellbeast had 5 bullets he did 4 points of damage (1 bullet to pay for the attack, 4 bullets = attack power?) without taking into account any damage reduction abilities on Liosan's side, right? Given the one that hit Liosan's attack actually landed, his dice get reset, but the one that attacked Fanderay's dice do not reset, correct?

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

Physical

Quote

Bullets [2][2][2]
Aim [1]
Dodge [2]
Luck [1]
Health [1][1][1][1][1][1]

Magical

Quote

Clubs [2][1][1][1]
Diamonds [4][3]
Hearts [5][5][3][1]
Spades [5]
Cheat [1][1][1][1]

Mental

Quote

Sanity [6][2]
Pixie Powder [7][4]
Golddust [0]
Speed [2][2][1]
Attunement [2][2][2][1]

Summoned Monsters

Alkend = Hellbeast # 1

Quote

Bullets [5]
Aim [4]
Dodge [0]
Luck [0]
Health [4][3]
Speed [6]

Hell Beast can only reset its dice if it lost health or did health damage to another alt.

Aparal Forge = Hellbeast # 2

Quote

Bullets [5]
Aim [4]
Dodge [0]
Luck [0]
Health [4][3]
Speed [6]

Hell Beast can only reset its dice if it lost health or did health damage to another alt.

Anomandaris = Familiar

Quote

Bullets [0]
Aim [0]
Dodge [0]
Luck [2][2][1]
Health [1][1][1]
Speed [0]

You do not lose sanity for summons while Familiar is still alive.

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

When do my investments take effect? Could I invest in Mud Street, then move to another tile during the first movement phase? Do my summons also happen before the first movement phase?

Path-Shaper, on 26 August 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

Ooh, another question, this one's regarding my ability 'Shared Souls'.

Does my target have to be on the same tile as me? Like, I know that Stalker is on my team, so if I say my target is Ultama, but he's on Mormon's House and I'm on, say, Betty's Beer Bar, will we still both gain 1 sanity?

You'd get an "Ultama is out of reach" message and +1 Sanity.
He'd get nothing, not even a notification, as he's out of reach.

The way it works is like this: the ability targets both of you, so your effects on you go through (unless you're guarded) since you're always on your own Location, but they miss for him.

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

Okay, cool, and how about my 2 other questions?

Path-Shaper, on 26 August 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

Okay, next question, my Hellbeast hit Liosan, as you said above. If I understand attacks correctly, given my Hellbeast had 5 bullets he did 4 points of damage (1 bullet to pay for the attack, 4 bullets = attack power?) without taking into account any damage reduction abilities on Liosan's side, right? Given the one that hit Liosan's attack actually landed, his dice get reset, but the one that attacked Fanderay's dice do not reset, correct?

The hell beast compares his Bullets (-1) to Liosan's Dodge.
If his Bullets were higher, he then compares his Aim to Liosan's Luck, doing the difference in damage.

And correct regarding resetting.

[Jalan]

Path-Shaper, on 26 August 2013 - 02:53 PM, said:

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

When do my investments take effect? Could I invest in Mud Street, then move to another tile during the first movement phase? Do my summons also happen before the first movement phase?

The investment and summons both happen in the phase you want them, and take place in the Location at which you are at the end of the phase.

Path-Shaper, on 26 August 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

Okay, cool, and how about my 2 other questions?

Answered now. Sorry, I skim posts as I have very little time to devote to modding - about an hour today and the GF is dragging me out for dinner in town, so that's cutting in, too.

Path-Shaper, on 26 August 2013 - 09:00 PM, said:

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

Tapper - if I don't accept Liosan's 'Shoot Out' Cantrip, do I lose a whole Speed die, or just a pip on a die? I have accepted his challenge, but thought I'd ask anyway, for future reference.


Also, are my summons allowed to move independently of me, or do they just follow me around?

a whole die.
Your summons can move independently.

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 10:27 PM, said:

Okay, here are my summon actions for Day 3:

1 - Summon Hell Beast # 3 using Hearts [5] and Pixie Powder [1].
2 - Summon Hell Beast # 4 using Hearts [5] and Pixie Powder [1].
3 - Summon Mosquito Swarm # 1 using Hearts [1] (Please create this one in the Karosis alt as I'm going to have Stalker target it).
4 - Summon Mosquito Swarm # 2 using Hearts [3].

That will leave me with Bullets [2].

--------------------

Movement Phase # 1

1 - Move Hell Beast # 1 (Alkend) to Dead Dane's Deed.
2 - Move Familiar to The Mormon's House.
3 - Move Mosquito Swarm # 1 (Karosis) to Mud Street.
4 - Move myself to The Fleece Spring.

--------------------

Night Phase

1 - Attack Liosan with Hell Beast # 1 (Alkend).
2 - Attack Mosquito Swarm # 1 (Karosis) with Hell Beast # 2 (Aparal Forge).
3 - Attack Liosan with Hell Beast # 3.
4 - Attack Liosan with Hell Beast # 4.
5 - Attack Liosan with Mosquito Swarm # 2.
6 - Use Shared Souls, target Ultama; cost is Diamonds [3].

-------------------

The above actions all should leave me [1] bullet pip which I can use to vote today if I so choose.



Disregard until I get results from the Wager.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 02:54 AM, said:

My choice for Judge in the unlikely event I am elected Mayor is Ultama.

If I'm chosen as Judge, I choose Liosan and Barghast as lynch choices.

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 01:07 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 01:07 PM, said:

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 01:03 PM, said:

If Olar Ethil doesn't work can you give me a list of alts that WILL work, please? I just chose one that wasn't in the game, but without knowing which alts are being used, I can't choose a proper alt like you told me to.

The K-alts that were listed as Day 2 alts in the vote update.

I will do a new one in the next 15 minutes, Rien ne Va Plus is overdue.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 01:09 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 01:07 PM, said:

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 01:03 PM, said:

If Olar Ethil doesn't work can you give me a list of alts that WILL work, please? I just chose one that wasn't in the game, but without knowing which alts are being used, I can't choose a proper alt like you told me to.

The K-alts that were listed as Day 2 alts in the vote update.

I thought those were alts that had already been summoned. I don't understand your vote update at ALL then. Like, it says there should be 5 alts, but there are only 4, for example.

[Jalan]

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

Anyway, I have updated my actions PM accordingly.

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 01:09 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 01:07 PM, said:

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 01:03 PM, said:

If Olar Ethil doesn't work can you give me a list of alts that WILL work, please? I just chose one that wasn't in the game, but without knowing which alts are being used, I can't choose a proper alt like you told me to.

The K-alts that were listed as Day 2 alts in the vote update.

I thought those were alts that had already been summoned. I don't understand your vote update at ALL then. Like, it says there should be 5 alts, but there are only 4, for example.

I added Kedeviss. Basically, those are the 5 alts that can be filled up with summons. Let's say Kedeviss is the one you intend to send to Stalker, if that still stands.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

It's probably not going to stand - can you confirm that the Wager loss made my Bullet die unusable for Summons?

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

Post Wagers Stats (Bullets May not be correct)


Physical

Quote

Bullets [2][2][2][1]
Aim [1]
Dodge [2]
Luck [1]
Health [1][1][1][1][1][1]

Magical

Quote

Clubs [2][1][1][1]
Diamonds [4][3]
Hearts [5][5][3][1]
Spades [5]
Cheat [1][1][1][1]

Mental

Quote

Sanity [6][2]
Pixie Powder [7][4]
Golddust [0]
Speed [2][2]
Attunement [2][2][2][1]

Summoned Monsters

Alkend = Hellbeast # 1

Quote

Bullets [5]
Aim [4]
Dodge [0]
Luck [0]
Health [4][3]
Speed [6]

Hell Beast can only reset its dice if it lost health or did health damage to another alt.

Aparal Forge = Hellbeast # 2

Quote

Bullets [5]
Aim [4]
Dodge [0]
Luck [0]
Health [4][3]
Speed [6]

Hell Beast can only reset its dice if it lost health or did health damage to another alt.

Anomandaris = Familiar

Quote

Bullets [0]
Aim [0]
Dodge [0]
Luck [2][2][1]
Health [1][1][1]
Speed [0]

You do not lose sanity for summons while Familiar is still alive.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 09:04 PM, said:

Okay, well, given I don't have much time left before I have to disappear for a couple of hours, and I don't want to hold up your resolution, here are my actions.



I currently have 3 bullet pips.


Okay, here are my summon actions for Day 3:

1 - Summon Hell Beast # 3 using Hearts [5] and Pixie Powder [1].
2 - Summon Hell Beast # 4 using Hearts [5] and Pixie Powder [1].
3 - Summon Mosquito Swarm using Hearts [3].

--------------------

Movement Phase # 1

1 - Move Hell Beast # 1 (Alkend) to Dead Dane's Deed.
2 - Move Hell Beast # 2 (Aparal Forge) to Dead Dane's Deed.
2 - Move Familiar to The Mormon's House.
3 - Move myself to The Fleece Spring.

--------------------

Night Phase

1 - Attack Liosan with Hell Beast # 1 (Alkend).
2 - Attack Liosan with Mosquito Swarm.
3 - Attack Mosquito Swarm with Hell Beast # 2 (Aparal Forge).
4 - Attack Liosan with Hell Beast # 3.
5 - Attack Liosan with Hell Beast # 4.

-------------------

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 09:05 PM, said:

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

It's probably not going to stand - can you confirm that the Wager loss made my Bullet die unusable for Summons?

Yes, the bullet die becomes fully used and thus unable to perform anything. That, more than the health loss, is the real nasty bit of Russian Roulette.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

All noted.

I'll give you:
Karosis for Hellbeast #3
Kaschan for Hellbeast #4
Kedeviss for the Mosquito Swarm #1.

Mosquito Swarm #2 is not cast as other summons were more expensive.

I wouldn't have had enough bullets to cast Mosquito Swarm 2 anyway. So I'm just gonna update the action message to include only the actions that would work with the 3 bullet pips.

[Jalan]

Path-Shaper, on 01 September 2013 - 04:16 PM, said:

Jalan, on 29 August 2013 - 09:30 PM, said:

I can only reset dice at Dawn right? Like, I can't reset them during the night phase?

Yup.

Path-Shaper, on 01 September 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

Jalan, on 30 August 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

I feel I need to make it clear that I think it's absolutely ridiculous that it's not made clear that the Judge Choice would be made public. This has completely screwed me, and would have completely screwed me even if someone hadn't changed the Judge choice. If something could potentially ruin an entire team's game, it should be made clear how the mechanic will work.

OK. I can see your PoV on this. I always intended it to be public and I guess that thought remained throughout writing the rules, to the point of accepting it as so logical that I omitted it.
The reasoning behind it is that the public reveal is the lesser of two evils, as it leaves the option of both manipulation by others and lying by the Mayor wide open on thread, instead of immediately casting only suspicion on the Mayor.

Path-Shaper, on 01 September 2013 - 05:14 PM, said:

You lose 1 Health during the Night Phase from 1 source.
Then, you lose 5 health from another source.
Then, you lose 5 health from another source.

Health becomes [1][1][1][1][1][1] from [1][1][1][1][1][1].

All your Dodge dice and Luck dice become used, as well.

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:26 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 01 September 2013 - 04:15 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 August 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 01:00 PM, said:

What about the mosquito swarm getting attacked by the Hell Beast? Shouldn't that death have shown on thread?

Was that not the hellbeast with 0 bullets?

Well fuck a duck, I'm an idiot.....


Either way, shouldn't that Mosquito Swarm have died, publically?

Yes, it should have. Have it for another day, as a pardon by me. It dies end day 4.

End Day 4 or end Night 4? It's kind of useless to me if it dies at end Day 4.

[Jalan]

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:28 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 01 September 2013 - 05:14 PM, said:

You lose 1 Health during the Night Phase from 1 source.
Then, you lose 5 health from another source.
Then, you lose 5 health from another source.

Health becomes [1][1][1][1][1][1] from [1][1][1][1][1][1].

All your Dodge dice and Luck dice become used, as well.

Okay, I use my speed die to reset 3 bullet dice and the dodge dice, leaving the Aim dice flipped.
I use my attunement to reset the 7 currently used magic dice.

I'll make an update to my stuff in a minute.

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:31 AM, said:

Stats going into Day 4.

I currently have 1 XP from being elected mayor.

Physical

Quote

Bullets [2][2][2]
Aim [1]
Dodge [2]
Luck [1]
Health [1][1][1][1][1][1]

Magical

Quote

Clubs [2][1][1][1]
Diamonds [4][3]
Hearts [5][5][3][1]
Spades [5]
Cheat [1][1][1][1]

Mental

Quote

Sanity [6][2]
Pixie Powder [7][4][2]
Golddust [0]
Speed [2][2]
Attunement [2][2][2][1]

Summoned Monsters

Alkend = Hellbeast # 1 (Dead Dane's Deed)

Quote

Bullets [5]
Aim [4]
Dodge [0]
Luck [0]
Health [4][3]
Speed [6]

Hell Beast can only reset its dice if it lost health or did health damage to another alt.

Aparal Forge = Hellbeast # 2 (Dead Dane's Deed)

Quote

Bullets [5]
Aim [4]
Dodge [0]
Luck [0]
Health [4][3]
Speed [6]

Hell Beast can only reset its dice if it lost health or did health damage to another alt.

Karosis = Hellbeast # 3 (Dead Dane's Deed)

Quote

Bullets [5]
Aim [4]
Dodge [0]
Luck [0]
Health [4][3]
Speed [6]

Hell Beast can only reset its dice if it lost health or did health damage to another alt.

Kaschan = Hellbeast # 4 (Dead Dane's Deed)

Quote

Bullets [5]
Aim [4]
Dodge [0]
Luck [0]
Health [4][3]
Speed [6]

Hell Beast can only reset its dice if it lost health or did health damage to another alt.

Kedeviss = Mosquito Swarm (Dead Dane's Deed)

Quote

Bullets [2]
Aim [1]
Dodge [0]
Luck [0]
Health [1]
Speed [1]

Mosquito Swarm dies after the First Night phase. If it deals damage, create a Health [1] die.

Anomandaris = Familiar (Mormon's House)

Quote

Bullets [0]
Aim [0]
Dodge [0]
Luck [2][2][1]
Health [1][1][1]
Speed [0]

You do not lose sanity for summons while Familiar is still alive.

Path-Shaper, on 03 September 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 12:26 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 01 September 2013 - 04:15 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 August 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 01:00 PM, said:

What about the mosquito swarm getting attacked by the Hell Beast? Shouldn't that death have shown on thread?

Was that not the hellbeast with 0 bullets?

Well fuck a duck, I'm an idiot.....


Either way, shouldn't that Mosquito Swarm have died, publically?

Yes, it should have. Have it for another day, as a pardon by me. It dies end day 4.

End Day 4 or end Night 4? It's kind of useless to me if it dies at end Day 4.

I meant the end cycle 4

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

About the only use I could find for a Shadow is to Brag about it and confuse people. I'm thinking I'm going to summon a Shadow, then Brag about it on thread, then use that to imply that they can't lynch me so shouldn't waste a lynch trying to do so thus giving a Judge the extra power tomorrow. Can you please confirm that there are no issues with this before I commit to doing it?

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

It's really frustrating to now have a mod around most of the time. We get answers from you like once a day, which is not enough considering lots of the decisions we make are based on answers to questions, and those decisions often have to be made BEFORE RNVP, or BEFORE Day times out.

Anyway, I'm going to assume I can do what I mentioned above and go ahead and do it, so that people can change their minds before RNVP about lynches and whatnot... If I can't do the above, just modkill me.

Action - Day 4 - Summon Shadow using Spades [5]

[Jalan]

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 02:39 PM, said:

Stats after summoning a Shadow and bragging about it on thread, and processing my confidence vote.


I currently have 1 XP from being elected mayor.

Physical

Quote

Bullets [2][2][2][1]
Aim [1]
Dodge [2]
Luck [1]
Health [1][1][1][1][1][1]

Magical

Quote

Clubs [2][1][1][1]
Diamonds [4][3]
Hearts [5][5][3][1]
Spades [5]
Cheat [1][1][1][1]

Mental

Quote

Sanity [6][2]
Pixie Powder [7][4][2]
Golddust [0]
Speed [2][2]
Attunement [2][2][2][1]

Summoned Monsters

Alkend = Hellbeast # 1 (Dead Dane's Deed)

Quote

Bullets [5]
Aim [4]
Dodge [0]
Luck [0]
Health [4][3]
Speed [6]

Hell Beast can only reset its dice if it lost health or did health damage to another alt.

Aparal Forge = Hellbeast # 2 (Dead Dane's Deed)

Quote

Bullets [5]
Aim [4]
Dodge [0]
Luck [0]
Health [4][3]
Speed [6]

Hell Beast can only reset its dice if it lost health or did health damage to another alt.

Karosis = Hellbeast # 3 (Dead Dane's Deed)

Quote

Bullets [5]
Aim [4]
Dodge [0]
Luck [0]
Health [4][3]
Speed [6]

Hell Beast can only reset its dice if it lost health or did health damage to another alt.

Kaschan = Hellbeast # 4 (Dead Dane's Deed)

Quote

Bullets [5]
Aim [4]
Dodge [0]
Luck [0]
Health [4][3]
Speed [6]

Hell Beast can only reset its dice if it lost health or did health damage to another alt.

Kedeviss = Mosquito Swarm (Dead Dane's Deed)

Quote

Bullets [2]
Aim [1]
Dodge [0]
Luck [0]
Health [1]
Speed [1]

Mosquito Swarm dies after the First Night phase. If it deals damage, create a Health [1] die.

Anomandaris = Familiar (Mormon's House)

Quote

Bullets [0]
Aim [0]
Dodge [0]
Luck [2][2][1]
Health [1][1][1]
Speed [0]

You do not lose sanity for summons while Familiar is still alive.

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

If I end up as Mayor, I choose Meanas as Judge.

If I'm Judge, I choose Fanderay as lynch.

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

I don't think it will happen, but if I manage to weasel my way out of this lynch, I'm gonna be very, very surprised.

Path-Shaper, on 04 September 2013 - 08:45 AM, said:

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:

Given Ultama has died, but I still have the Family Portrait, should I not have a lover conversation with the other LaRua now? I'm pretty sure it's not Hentos as he claims, but I'm curious to know if he is the one that would show up in my Family Portrait conversation, thus confirming my suspicions or not.

Urgh. Wording issues; this was not what I intended for the portait, but... I see your point. OK. You can open off-thread comms with Hentos Ilm.

Path-Shaper, on 04 September 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

Jalan, on 03 September 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

About the only use I could find for a Shadow is to Brag about it and confuse people. I'm thinking I'm going to summon a Shadow, then Brag about it on thread, then use that to imply that they can't lynch me so shouldn't waste a lynch trying to do so thus giving a Judge the extra power tomorrow. Can you please confirm that there are no issues with this before I commit to doing it?

No issues at all, and I think it worked nicely. Shadow is basically there for 2 purposes:
1) to cause Sanity losses each phase.
2) to occupy alts that other players would be using, otherwise.

It can be decent, but... it's uses depend.
Any other actions?

Path-Shaper, on 04 September 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

Shadow, by the way, is summoned into Sheltatha Lore.

Jalan, on 04 September 2013 - 04:47 PM, said:

Actions for today, and movement and night phases in case I survive (I currently have 3 bullets):

Day 4

1) Summon Hell Beast # 5 with Hearts [5] and Pixie Powder [1]
3) Summon Mosquito Swarm # 2 with Hearts [3]

Movement Phase 1

1) Mosquito Swarm # 2 to Dead Dane's Deed
2) Move Hell Beast # 5 to Mud Street

Night Phase

1) Attack Hell Beast # 1 (Alkend) with Mosquito Swarm # 1 (Kedeviss)
2) Attack Hell Beast # 2 (Aparal Forge) with Mosquito Swarm # 2
3) Attack Meanas with Hell Best # 5
4) Attack Liosan with Hell Beast # 1 (Alkend)
5) Attack Fanderay with Hell Beast # 2 (Aparal Forge)
6) Invest the following into Fleece Springs - Diamonds [4]

Movement Phase 2

1) Move myself to Dead Dane's Deed
2) Move Hell Beast # 1 to Fleece Spring
3) Move Hell Beast # 2 to Mud Street
4) Move Hell Beast # 3 to Outlaw's Refuge
5) Move Hell Beast # 4 to Mud Street
6) Move Hell Beast # 5 to Betty's Beer Bar

Path-Shaper, on 04 September 2013 - 06:04 PM, said:

Jalan, on 04 September 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:

So do all my summons survive my lynch? Do I still get to play with those until they're all dead?

Nope, they're lost. You're the one controlling them, and you're dead
SH password is war&peace.

[Jalan]

Path-Shaper, on 04 September 2013 - 06:04 PM, said:

Jalan, on 04 September 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:

So do all my summons survive my lynch? Do I still get to play with those until they're all dead?

Your summons do go through, though - so 3 sanity loss for all on Mud Street.

Jalan, on 04 September 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 04 September 2013 - 06:04 PM, said:

Jalan, on 04 September 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:

So do all my summons survive my lynch? Do I still get to play with those until they're all dead?

Your summons do go through, though - so 3 sanity loss for all on Mud Street.

Well that's fun at least!

Jalan, on 04 September 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

I'm clearing out my inbox now!

Jalan, on 04 September 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

Well, actually, I'll do that after I see what's in SH - if I have time in the next little while I might start copying and pasting stuff over.

[Jalan]

Wager thread:

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:

High!

I would like a Poker hand from you.

The challenge: the winner of the Poker game creates a Speed [6] or Attunement [6] die that disappears after the next die reset (dawn day 3).
The loser cannot reset dice during Dawn day 3.

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 03:18 PM, said:

I would like another Poker hand from you.

You'll be playing the Location's ability, which is set to Russian Roulette.
The loser must make an attack on himself, using his highest remaining Bullet die vs his highest remaining Dodge die, then comparing his highest Aim die against his highest Luck die (if Bullets -1 > Dodge, of course).

Basically, the loser will attack himself with his strongest attack.

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 03:30 PM, said:

The order for these actions is

1. Russian Roulette
2. Wager for the Speed die.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:

Can I use used cards to make hands? Can I use the same cards twice to make 2 hands? If I use cards for wagers, can I still use them for abilities later?

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

Arg, never mind, I have reread the Wager section.

If I understand correctly, after a wager, I mark ONE of the dice used to make my hand as used, but the rest of the dice I used to make a hand are unused?

Considering Day hasn't ended yet, should I consider the dice I would need for the summon actions I submitted as used or unused? Can I use them to Wager, and then change my actions according to the result of the Wager? Will I get my Wager Results before the end of the Day so I can update my actions?


Also, can you please explain Russian Roulette?

You can use dice designated for abilities in your Poker Hand. The ONE die you mention above must be from the scoring combination, so in case of a pair, it must be one of the dice that made the pair. The other die can be ANY die.

Russian Roulette basically makes an attack from you, onto you. So you're both the attacker and the defender.
P-S will use your biggest (unused) dice for this attack.

You will get your results as soon as all relevant Poker hands are in.

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

Alright, here goes nothing:



Hand # 1 (Russian Roulette)

Clubs [1][1][1]
Hearts [5][5]

That makes a Full House. Dice to be marked as used are Clubs [1] and Hearts [5].



Hand # 2 (Wager for the Speed Die)

Clubs [1][1]
Cheat [1][1] (to be changed into Clubs [1] dice)
Spades [5]

That makes a Four of a Kind. Dice to be marked as used are Clubs [1][1]

If I win the 2nd wager, I want the attunement dice and to use it to flip all my magic dice back to unused.

Hmm. You might want to reconsider the full house.
From the rules:

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Important to note: including the same number of pips of the same suit numerous times in one combination is illegal. So Spades [1] & Hearts [1] are a pair, but Spades [1], [1] isn't. Nor can one create a Flush by using, for example, Spades [1],[1],[2],[3],[6], nor by using Spades [1], [2],[3],[6] and Cheat [1] (treating the Cheat as Spades), because in that case, there'd be 2x a Spades [1] die.

After participating in a Wager, both players must select two dice that become used, and at the least one of these dice must have been used in the combination (so if you had a Pair, one die must be from the Pair).

Technically, you'd have a hand of Clubs [1] & Hearts [5] for a high card score in your first hand.
The second hand would be Three of a Kind Spades [1], Cheat [1] as Hearts, Cheat [1] as Clubs [1], basically.

If you want to redo, here's your opportunity.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 05:54 PM, said:

Yikes, I'm an idiot. I'm sorry, lemme give this a couple minutes of thought and I'll update my hands, thanks for the chance.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:

Hand # 1 (Russian Roulette)


Clubs [1]
Diamonds [3]
Hearts [3][1]
Cheat [1]


That makes a Full House. Dice to be marked as used are Clubs [1] and Hearts [1].



Hand # 2 (Wager for the Speed Die)

Clubs [2] + Cheat [1] to make Clubs [3]
Diamonds [3]
Hearts [5][3]
Spades [5]


That makes a Full House. Dice to be marked as used are Clubs [2] & Spades [5]


If I win the 2nd wager, I want the attunement dice and to use it to flip all my magic dice back to unused.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 07:55 PM, said:

*poke* Just want to make sure you saw my updated poker hand!

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 07:59 PM, said:

You lose both Wagers.
Attack = Bullets [2-1] vs Dodge [2], attack neutralized.

The second Wager means you cannot reset dice.

I will give you time to think about your night actions, hence my statement on thread

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

Okay, does that mean that the bullet dice I had to use for the Attack is now considered used, or can I still use those 2 bullets for summons?

[Jalan]

Jalan / Bek Okhan friendship already posted

Jalan / Ultama (Family Portrait):

Path-Shaper, on 23 August 2013 - 01:19 PM, said:

You are both in the same family portrait because your surname is LaRua.

These are off-thread comms that last as long as Jalan has the Family Portrait item.

Jalan, on 23 August 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

Hello fellow LaRua!!

Jalan, on 23 August 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

I'm hoping you're on Mud Street, it would make our lives a bunch easier. If not, that's fine, but I'm sitting there and investing as much as I can each night so that we can control Mud Street. If we control Mud Street, it will make everything else much easier to take over. That being said, I'm the Channeler, so I don't actually have to attack anyone to kill them. I use summons to make people insane, and then send the summoned creatures after my enemies. If you're on Mud Street, you won't take any sanity damage from my summons cause I will always use an item I have to prevent you from taking any sanity damage from my summons.

Ultama, on 23 August 2013 - 03:12 PM, said:

Hey there!

No, I'm in the Morman House, also investing. I've already put down 5 of each, so hopefully we control it and I can move on. How great would it be to steal this game within the first few days by controlling everything? Though, I'd rather just play with my abilities.

My hexes will hurt you if we are on the same location, so we may want to avoid that, unless there isn't another option.

Also how does the family portrait work? Can it be destroyed so you can create comms with a different member?

Jalan, on 23 August 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

I don't think so. There isn't anything in the item description that says that, it just says that when I create the item, it opens a lover convo with the nearest member of my team. If members are equal distance, then it chooses one at Mods' discretion.

I'm just going to sit on Mud Street, cause my summons and my insanity won't make ME wanted if I kill someone with them. That way I can keep investing on Mud Street, and hopefully make anyone trying to steal it away from us insane before they can actually take it away. I'm not going to do any actual attacking, just summon a bunch, and invest as much as I can into Mud Street. As long as I keep Mud Street on our side, then it'll help you and our other team mate take over the other locations.

Any ideas who team mate # 3 might be? Do you have any find abilities? I have a summon that takes control of random players, so I'm assuming I can use that as a form of find ability. I can either summon it tomorrow, or invest Spades into Mud Street (which, along with a few Clubs and a Diamond would get me to 5 per on Mud Street). I'm thinking I will invest tomorrow, then summon it on Day 3.

Also, I get a sexy summon if I get 2 XP. It's a strong summon to start with, but when it dies, it destroys a location and everyone on it. So I can go sit it on a location that an opposing faction needs but that we don't, and then hopefully get it killed off so we can do some serious hurt!!

Ultama, on 23 August 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

I like your plan! We need to get you elected somehow, to get exp.

I don't know any other members, though I'm hoping we are a faction of 4, not 3. As for the finds, I can perform the find cantrip listed in thread, but I believe it is location dependent (target and I at the same spot), so it doesn't seem worth it to throw 6 diamonds when I can invest them. I'll be trying it tomorrow anyway since I should have captured the location already, meaning I've got all my abilities to burn (or invest more to hold it) until move phase comes up and I can go elsewhere.

Jalan, on 23 August 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

Tapper told me at the beginning that we're 3 people, not 4. Because of that, I started off with a summon already in play. So we only need to find one other team member to figure out the whole team. After that, it's kill, maim, destroy, and invest! If we manage to find partner # 3, then one of us can open a lover convo with him using the Friendship Cantrip, and we should be more or less unbeatable!

Which Character are you, by the way? I'm the Channeler.

Also, I'm Blend! Who are you?

Jalan, on 23 August 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:

Dear God, I've just found out that I can use an ability of mine to create a copy of my 2XP summon that dies at the end of the cycle. Considering the location destroying ability of that summon happens when it dies, then I can just keep making copies and have them destroy locations pretty much every day. If I manage to get that summon, we're gonna have the whole map scrambling!

Ultama, on 23 August 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:

Well I guess we don't have to worry too much about our actions or lynched then, as the chance of randomly hitting our third player is slim. I'd imagine the last player is the Scion too, meaning our actions will not drain his sanity. I know you don't do that anyway, but I do and as long as I know your location and the scion is invulnerable to my sanity drains, I won't be able to hurt anyone on our team.

As for getting you exp, people will be elected today so that tomorrow's judge doesn't get 3 choices. I doubt you want to put yourself out there as a judge and draw other people's attention, so maybe go for mayor somehow? If you are super reasonable, I can vote you early and try to sway people. Or you need to kill people on Mud Street. Either way.

Stalker here, playing as the hexslinger. I believe all my actions require me to be on the same location as my target so I need more info on people's locations to be effective. I could spread abilities across the players and hope one hits to randomly figure out locations or I could invest.

Jalan, on 23 August 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

My summons do drain sanity, but I have an item that allows me to protect one person from the sanity draining abilities, and I have a summon that prevents me from losing sanity. Right now, my item is targeting you, but given you're a hexer, you're best to just stay away from Mud Street.

I'm going to start the day by saying that if I am elected Mayor, I will make anyone who says they'll lynch Liosan the Judge. I'm not going to push it much beyond that and continuing to push the idea that we absolutely cannot allow another day to go by without a lynch.

My summons can move around the map and do some crazy fun stuff. Do any of your hexes buff abilities/attacks or anything? I wonder if you can target my summoned creatures.

Ultama, on 23 August 2013 - 05:02 PM, said:

Ok, just keep targeting me with it please, since I think the other member can't be affected by you anyway.

I have no ability to buff anything, strictly hex attacks on others or a guard ability. Though again, these are location dependent.

Only problem I see with starting the day with that statement is that today's judge gets 2 lynches, so it may help to be more thorough. Any reason Liosan in particular? I'm not a fan of the Bek Okhan, Fanderay, and whoever else Bek had a friendship with triangle. I imagine they were planning together, since it would help them to work together early on. Also don't like Merrid.

Jalan, on 23 August 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

I could say that I'll choose someone as judge that will target Merrid and Fanderay for the 2 lynches. It would be easy to make a case against them for their I'll vote for you if you vote for me thing. They're clearly trying to give each other experience or something.

Ultama, on 23 August 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

Yeah, hard to say if they knew each other or were just randomly going for the vote each other thing. Good thing we have 24 hours to decide the judge stuff, cause I'll be watching the thread before making any moves. Exception being if someone that isn't you begins to gain traction. Play it however you want, of course, but we just want to figure out the best way to get you elected. Barghast seems really reasonable, so I think if the case swayed him, others may follow.

I do like to lurk and gain info from the thread, rather than being super productive, so I'll try not to make a splash unless necessary.

Jalan, on 23 August 2013 - 05:37 PM, said:

Sounds good. I think if I continue being less lurky, and you continue being lurky, you can pop up and lend assistance to me whenever you can do it without jeopardizing us. I have a really hard time lying low in Mafia, so I think it's best if we both just play to our strengths and keep as much info in here as we can.

[Jalan]

Ultama, on 23 August 2013 - 06:37 PM, said:

Just thought of something cool- do you have any weak summons that you can summon daily and sacrifice without much dice penalty to yourself?

From game OP- Whenever a player casts a Summon ability or creates an item that occupies a Temporary Alt, one of these alts will be given to them. This alt then gets the Location of its creator and it gains statistics listed in its creator's role PM.
Killing this alt will result in a gain of 1 XP and full CF, including faction alignment.

So if I can farm a weak summon ability of yours, I can either power myself up or put exp into the hero pool. With my current set of abilities, I could manage to kill 2 during the night phase. Since you can move them, they could come to me so that my abilities don't miss.

Edit- problem being faction alignment, so people would get suspicious eventually, but could probably pull it off once or twice, if you were interested.

Jalan, on 23 August 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

I think that's actually a really great idea! And I don't think it's a big deal if people keep seeing an alt from our faction die. They won't know that it's you killing it.

I have a summon that costs me very little, and only has 1 health point. I could summon 2 of them per day, and move them over to Mormon house. If you don't kill them during the night cycle, then they'll die at the end of the night cycle regardless. It would be an easy way for you to gain at least 4 XP, and even more if we can keep it going.

The problem I see with it is that right now, the way resolutions work, I don't find out what alts they're in until the Day is resolved, and you have to have your night actions in before Day times out. I'm going to bring the idea up to Tapper in my Role PM and see what he says.

Jalan, on 23 August 2013 - 10:10 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 23 August 2013 - 10:09 PM, said:

The one Location that is conquered for certain is Judge Wallace's Office, by [5] in each suit by the LaRua faction.

Well that's sexy!

Ultama, on 23 August 2013 - 11:03 PM, said:

No help towards our VC locations, but it means our final teammate is active and doing good things. Not sure why the decision to start there, but I'm sure there is a plan. If only we could all coordinate... though you and I are in good shape.

Jalan, on 25 August 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:

Alright, so Tapper said that we CAN do what you have suggested above, but apparently there is a chance my summons won't work, though I don't see anywhere that says so. Trying to get more info from Tapper. I'm really confused with how the Day 1 status update looks too. I invested a bunch into Mud Street that's now showing at all. Plus, if you have at least 5 of each suit, shouldn't you have taken over Mormon's House?

Ultama, on 25 August 2013 - 07:44 PM, said:

Not sure what's going on with investment stuff. I imagine Tapper is busy doing other things during the freeze and that all will be resolved, for real, tomorrow. But yeah, we should control the House. How much did you manage to invest?

Let me know when you get more info from him. I also have a few questions in that will help determine strategy going forward.

Path-Shaper, on 25 August 2013 - 07:47 PM, said:

Jalan, on 25 August 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:

Alright, so Tapper said that we CAN do what you have suggested above, but apparently there is a chance my summons won't work, though I don't see anywhere that says so. Trying to get more info from Tapper. I'm really confused with how the Day 1 status update looks too.

Quote

I invested a bunch into Mud Street that's now showing at all. Plus, if you have at least 5 of each suit, shouldn't you have taken over Mormon's House?

I knew I had forgotten something

Jalan, on 25 August 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

Ultama, on 25 August 2013 - 07:44 PM, said:

Not sure what's going on with investment stuff. I imagine Tapper is busy doing other things during the freeze and that all will be resolved, for real, tomorrow. But yeah, we should control the House. How much did you manage to invest?

Let me know when you get more info from him. I also have a few questions in that will help determine strategy going forward.

I invested 5 hearts, 3 diamonds and 3 clubs.

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

Alright, so I sent an attack at Liosan, and it hit. That means he's sitting on Mud Street, and thus most likely not a member of the LaRua faction (given our teammate took over Judge Wallace's Office). I'm now going to double up my concentration on Liosan, methinks.

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 02:07 PM, said:

I lost like 4 sanity last night, so I'm going to have to move away from Mud Street, it seems like there's someone throwing out a bunch of Hexes, and I only have 2 sanity left.

I'm going to invest enough to put Mud Street at 5 of each suit, then move to Betty's Beer Bar during the first Movement Phase so I can start investing there (doesn't look like there's anyone there right now given there were no investments last night).

I'm getting a bit of info from Tapper re: how my dice and stuff work, but will likely create a couple or few small summons. I need to use one of my small summons to reset one of my bigger summons' dice, but I can send the 2nd one over to Mormon's House so you can kill it and gain some XP.

I'm also going to do a night abilty that gives us both 1 sanity. There's nothing on the ability text that says you have to be on the same tile as me, but I'm asking Tapper, just in case. If we do, then I'm gonna move to Mormon's House instead of Betty's Beer Bar, cause I need to regain a bit of sanity. I'll come to the tile, do the ability, then move back to Mud Street during Movement Phase 2.

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 02:07 PM, said:

Are your hexes day abilities, or night abilities? I'm just wondering if I'm getting hit with sanity damage during Day or Night phase.

Ultama, on 26 August 2013 - 04:02 PM, said:

My hexes are split between day, move, and night phases.

Since we currently control the Morman's House, I may use my movement phase 1 to head to mud street and invest before moving on to our wilderness location. I have an ability where I don't lose sanity at night. I can move there, unleash some hexes on the summons (and drain other people's sanity), and keep moving.

How do you want to play this? We can either continue trying to get exp and kill everyone, or we could go for a location assault. We need to take 3 more places, so if you and I both invest on mud street today, and then move to the other 2 locations, we could be looking at victory at the end of night 4. I imagine we'd need to head back to mud street to reinvest against the other factions, which is why I think it would take an extra day/night. Of course, we'd both need to survive, and we'd need the other players to not invest against us after we take a spot, and we'd have slim access to abilities after expending the dice. Hard choice.

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

I have a shit ton of Heart dice, but a real dearth of other dice. I only have one Spades dice with 5 pips, so either I use it for an ability, or I use it to invest in a location. Today I'm going to invest 5 spades and 3 clubs into Mud Street for sure, and perhaps add 4 diamonds. I need to keep the rest of my resetable dice to do some summons.

I will be summoning 2 of my small summons. One of them to reset the dice of one of my creatures, the other one so that you can attack it. Should I leave it on Mud Street, or move it somewhere? Once I've figured out an alt name for the 2nd small summon, I'll let you know so that you can target it when you're submitting your action (that's what Tapper said you have to do).

I will also summon another of my big summons, and make a copy of one of my currently existing big summons. If Liosan is still sitting on Mud Street, I can potentially kill him if I play my cards right, as well as hitting people for 3 points of sanity from summoning.

I will move to Betty's Beer Bar during Movement Phase 1, and probably stay there so that I can then invest during Day 3.

During night phase, I'm going to use an ability that gives me 1 sanity, and would give you a sanity if you were on the same tile as me.

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

Well shit...

Liosan, on 26 August 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

Ok you scum sucking scalywag, you've had a hard on for me since day 1 and I'm going to give you a chance to put your money where your mouth is.

shoot out with Jalain at dead deans deed

Edit: bullets(4)

I have to accept that, I think, or I'll lose some speed.

I mean, I only have the 3 bullet dice, and I have 4 speed, so I guess I can get away with not following him. What do you think?

[Jalan]

Ultama, on 26 August 2013 - 05:02 PM, said:

Hmm, let me check the rules and info. If he is trying a shoot out, you better believe he is a physical powerhouse.

Ultama, on 26 August 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

If you accept, you'll be moved away from mud street, meaning we can't do any of our plans. If you refuse, you lose a speed die. Doesn't specify if it is the biggest or what, but considering how our attacks are magical, speed isn't a huge factor in the abilities.

I would refuse and use your smallest speed die (clarify with Tapper?).

Ultama, on 26 August 2013 - 05:09 PM, said:

Also Denul may be ours, the way he is offering info today. If he is the scion, that role offers mutually beneficial deals, according to the mini-description. What better way than via friendship to do just that... I'm going to be watching, or maybe open a friendship too.

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 05:19 PM, said:

I'll check with Tapper to see if denying the Shoot Out makes me lose a whole Speed die, or just a pip on a die. If it's the latter, I'm going to have to accept the Shoot Out, cause I can't afford to lose 2 speed pips. If I do, then I either won't be able to vote tomorrow or use any summons tomorrow, as I will only be able to reset 2 bullet dice.


And though magic doesn't use Speed to reset, the bullet dice do, and I need bullet dice to do my summons, so...

Ultama, on 26 August 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

Speed automatically resets itself, and since you don't reset your dice until morning, I think they will all be available to you to use. Just won't be able to attach speed to your attacks, which doesn't matter since they are magic!

Also what are the rules? Is it one volley or does the duel go until 1 dies? Because looking at the roles of people who can afford to buy that ability, you don't want to go pistol to pistol with them, if it is to the death.

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

I don't think we actually do any special attacking for the Shoot Out, I think it just forces us to the same location. It therefore makes it easier for him to target me and be somewhat certain to hit me.

Ultama, on 26 August 2013 - 05:34 PM, said:

Ah, you actually might be right, I was thinking more of a wild-west clock strikes noon type of thing. But yeah, all it specifies is that you both get moved to the same spot. Lio must have some day actions then, otherwise you could move away before the night phase. Or he is like me, and can target you anywhere.

I have an day ability where I target a player on the same tile as me, and then I can hit that player anywhere until the next day.

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

If I accept the Shoot Out, I could pull at least 3 summons out during Day phase, so that could potentially hit him for 3 sanity points. I still have 6 health spread over 6 dice, so I probably won't die right away, unless his attacks are magical too.

Ultama, on 26 August 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

Yup, you could even summon them and send them to mud street where I could target them at night, if we want to keep that plan going. It looks like you have options, but it depends on ow the speed functions.

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

I'm tempted to just accept and see what happens. I mean, the chances of him killing me off completely seem pretty low.

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 05:41 PM, said:

It would also give me a good reason to continue trying to get him lynched. If he's trying to kill me back, there's no point in trying to be circumspect about my dislike for him.

Ultama, on 26 August 2013 - 05:48 PM, said:

Yeah, true.

You could also try saying that because Lio spelled your name wrong, it doesn't count.

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 06:34 PM, said:

He also mispelled the location name. Heh.

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

I'm gonna accept his Shoot Out, but I'm gonna fuck with him first. Hopefully I don't get in trouble for it!

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

I'm gonna accept his Shoot Out, but I'm gonna fuck with him first. Hopefully I don't get in trouble for it!

[Jalan]

Ultama, on 26 August 2013 - 06:41 PM, said:

Alright. Good luck and don't die on me. I'd hate to be a faction of 2, with the other guy unknown.

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:

Yeah, I hope this works out. I will figure out my actions when I'm not at work, so I can put some actual uninterrupted thought into it. I'll let you know exactly what I'm doing then!



Rest assured I'll send a small summon to Mud Street for you. Might as well try to get you some XP.

Ultama, on 26 August 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

Sounds good. I'll let you know, as well, when I get my actions sorted.

If you need your summons or anything to stay alive or fight Lio, worry about yourself first. I'd rather not get exp than have you go down.

Path-Shaper, on 26 August 2013 - 08:40 PM, said:

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 06:55 PM, said:

I'm checking with Tapper to see if my Summons move independently of me, or if they just follow me around. If the latter, I can send a BUNCH of damage Liosan's way and still send a small summon your way. Otherwise, I may have to rethink my abilities.

Independent.

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

Thanks Tapper!



Stalker - I'll give you an update re: what I'm thinking for actions in a bit. Gonna head home now!

Jalan, on 26 August 2013 - 10:25 PM, said:

Given that Liosan is on Dead Dane's Deed, and I know for a fact that during the last Night Phase, he was on Mud Street, I'm thinking he's a University player. I'm going to hammer him tonight if I survive this Day phase, but I'm also going to be able to get a small summon to Mud Street for you.

Tell Tapper that you're targeting Olar Ethil with your attack if you want to target my small summon. I'm gonna try to attack someone at random with it, see if I can do a bit of damage while I'm at it. Any suggestions on who I should aim for? Considering I took a bunch of Sanity Damage last night, I was thinking that whoever brought that up today might be sitting on Mud Street too. I'm gonna go check that out, and make that person my target.

I can Day Summon 4 creatures, so that'll drain 4 sanity from Liosan unless he can counteract that. Unless he moved onto Mud Street during the first movement phase of Day 1, then he likely took 2 sanity damage yesterday too. So that's a nice chunk of Sanity if it all goes through.

Ultama, on 26 August 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

I've got no suggestions as to who to aim for. It's a crap shoot as to who is actually at a specific spot. Your plan sounds good though. I'm going to move to mud street, kill your summon, and throw some other hexes around as another sanity drain move.

If I had to guess Lio's role- it would be the Texas ranger, due to high bullets in thread and high spade cost for the ability. Either way the sanity damage will work. 4 pending today, 2 from you yesterday, and you said you took big damage at night too, which should have hit him. You could make him insane today.

Ultama, on 27 August 2013 - 01:23 AM, said:

I really want to use Rivalry, just to mess with people, and break up their friendships. Though I'm not looking to draw attention to myself, as funny as it would be.

Also tempted to join the Morman House off-thread comms, but I'm worried that that would give my faction away since anyone in there now is either LaRua or trying to find who is.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 02:55 AM, said:

I wouldn't draw unnecessary attention to yourself just yet. You're still mostly a non-entity on thread, and I've drawn enough attention to myself for both of us, I think.

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 10:36 AM, said:

Olar Ethil will be difficult as all alts open to be summoned into, are starting with 'K'...

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 01:16 PM, said:

Arg, it seems there is a certain number of available temporary alts every day. If there are more potential summons than temporary alts, then the smaller summons don't work. So we may not get the small summon. Either way, try targetting Karosis with an attack. If I manage to summon a small summon, it will be in that alt.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 03:42 PM, said:

So I've just been hit by 2 wagers. If I lose one of them, my dice don't reset tomorrow (which is a big deal), and if I lose the other, I attack myself with my strongest attack (which isn't a huge deal). If I win one, though, I get a free speed or attunement die, though that'll be pretty useless for me, I think.

[Jalan]

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

I think I should be alright, as long as I can use the dice I had originally chosen for summons to create my hands. But we shall see. Probably going to have to dip into my Cheat dice, unfortunately.

Ultama, on 27 August 2013 - 04:06 PM, said:

After participating in a Wager, both players must select two dice that become used, and at the least one of these dice must have been used in the combination (so if you had a Pair, one die must be from the Pair).


So that isn't terrible for your abilities, should still be able to do damage. Are you able to make a straight flush with all the hearts? Like 5-4-3-2- [1] cheat?

Anyway, good luck!

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

I would have to use all my Cheat dice to make a straight flush, but I can make a four of a kind using only 1 cheat dice, and a full house using no cheat dice, so it's two good hands. I've just gotta figure out which dice to mark as used in those instances. I think if I want to do it without affecting my actions too much if I lose, I will need to use a 2nd cheat dice.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 04:48 PM, said:

Alright, so I submitted my hands. A Full House for the Russian Roulette hand, and a Four of a Kind for the Speed Die hand. We'll see how things go. I'm hoping that I beat Liosan in both Wagers, teach him to mess with me.



Anyway, considering the tile was changed to Russian Roulette wagers, and that he's using wagers to attack me, I'm thinking we can further narrow down Liosan's likely role.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Aka - he's the Card Shark.

Ultama, on 27 August 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

Same thought here. Though it is a bit WIFOM, as I'd imagine that Lio isn't stupid enough to reveal both his faction and role in one move just to target you. Still, for now we have to assume card shark or comms with the shark. Either way he is looking like an Ace.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 06:03 PM, said:

Ack, I screwed up my hands in wager completely. Luckily Tapper gave me a second chance, and I was able to make 2 Full Houses, but this may screw up my ability to send you a small summon to kill as planned. Depends on whether or not I win the wagers.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 06:04 PM, said:

A part of me wants to get someone to spend dice for Friendship, then not say a single word in the Lover Conversation.

Ultama, on 27 August 2013 - 06:21 PM, said:

That would be amusing, kinda like me wanting to use rivalry just for the laughs.


As for the wagers, if you are playing the card shark I'd be concerned with four of a kinds. Hopefully you manage to win one, if not both.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

Yeah, unfortunately I couldn't make anything higher than a full house without having to use up all my Cheat cards. We'll see how it goes, I think Full Houses are still pretty decent hands.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 06:36 PM, said:

The potentially good side of it is if Liosan is actually the Card Shark, I should be able to summon enough summons regardless to put him out of commission, the dirty bastard.

Ultama, on 27 August 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

Yup, that would be nice. Either he'll end up insane or dead,though insane would be better as you'd look less threatening.

I'm still planning on moving to Betty's bar with move phase 2. I'll be at mud street for the night phase, just let me know after wagers are resolved if you send me a summon, otherwise I've got some random damage to spread, or will invest.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 07:24 PM, said:

Yeah, we'll see how the Wagers go and figure things out from there.

[Jalan]

Ultama, on 27 August 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:

I just put in my provisionals in case day is about to be over, though I think lynches occur once day times out. Provisionally targeting Karosis, now, along with using all my other bullets on actions. This should be interesting.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

So I lost both wagers. My Dodge neutralized the attack, but I can't reset my dice tomorrow. I'm still gonna summon as much as I can to hopefully kill off Liosan and just spend the day without Dice tomorrow.

Ultama, on 27 August 2013 - 08:24 PM, said:

Well that sucks. I guess Lio really is the card shark.

You planning to move with your move action? Probably not safe to stay there when everyone knows your location.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 08:28 PM, said:

I'm definitely moving. I'm going down to Fleece Springs. Most likely will not be able to send you a summon, just waiting on confirmation of something from Tapper.

Ultama, on 27 August 2013 - 08:28 PM, said:

And wow with the mayor election. Didn't see that coming. I was tempted to vote you but didn't want to look like I was stalling or trying something funny.

Hopefully you got your actions in. I'm targeting Karosis but it doesn't matter if you were able to summon him or not, since I'm really using it for the sanity loss.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

I've been told by Tapper that if I send you a summon, it has to be Kedeviss, so change your action to that. I think he's being a little lenient on the actions because of the Day ending early and me not being able to provide actions until my Wagers were resolved.

Ultama, on 27 August 2013 - 08:38 PM, said:

Changed it, thanks for the head up. Again, don't worry if you can't actually summon it though. No big deal.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

Well, I successfully summoned 3 monsters, so that should be 3 sanity bopped off Liosan's bar, plus the potential 2 from yesterday, would leave him at 1 sanity (assuming he IS the Card Shark) if he didn't take any damage from anyone else.


I'm also attacking him with everything I got, so he should be hurting if not dead come tomorrow.

Ultama, on 27 August 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:

Cool. It's also possible Lio has even lower sanity due to whatever hit you hard last night for a big sanity loss.

I've got a hex on kedeviss and random nukes / finds on other people who hopefully are at mud street.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 09:42 PM, said:

So what do you think of you saying on thread that you will get rid of Liosan if you can have the other 2 lynches as your choice, me agreeing to name you Judge and you voting me Mayor for tomorrow? Then we can try and find us some other faction members?

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 09:42 PM, said:

So what do you think of you saying on thread that you will get rid of Liosan if you can have the other 2 lynches as your choice, me agreeing to name you Judge and you voting me Mayor for tomorrow? Then we can try and find us some other faction members?

Ultama, on 27 August 2013 - 09:47 PM, said:

Let's see what kind of damage you can do to Lio first. I'm not against the idea but I do think it would show us working a little too closely together, especially as I should have no reason to dislike Lio at this point, aside from the desire to get exp.

[Jalan]

Ultama, on 27 August 2013 - 09:48 PM, said:

I'd also prefer not to post until day, as I spent 8 bullets today, and don't want people on thread to see me at 0.

Jalan, on 27 August 2013 - 09:58 PM, said:

Ultama, on 27 August 2013 - 09:47 PM, said:

Let's see what kind of damage you can do to Lio first. I'm not against the idea but I do think it would show us working a little too closely together, especially as I should have no reason to dislike Lio at this point, aside from the desire to get exp.

You could definitely use the "I want XP" tack, but you could also note that due to how yesterday went down, it's likely that Liosan is on one of the teams you need to get rid of to fulfill your VCs, thus making others think you're a team other than LaRua.

Anyway, you're right that we should wait to see how Lio fairs the night before making any decisions, and till Day starts again to post, just thought I'd throw it out there as an idea.

I have 0 bullets tomorrow, so I won't be able to do anything until Day 4 unless I'm elected Mayor or chosen as Judge.

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 01:17 AM, said:

Well Lock is expressing an early desire to take out Liosan. You should saddle with him if possible, and I can and will throw out a supporting vote.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:01 AM, said:

Hentos Ilm is the Scion. He just lover convo'd me!

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:04 AM, said:

He lover convo'd me using the LaRua Medallion, so I'm certain he's LaRua. It's nice that we now know our full team, and it doesn't look like Lock is going to choose Hentos Ilm as a lynchee, so we should maybe try to get me elected Mayor, if we can manage it.

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 05:22 AM, said:

Knew it was the scion. Awesome that we know who it is now. For the lynch to be cancelled, it must mean someone was trying to save Fanderay, cause we sure as hell didnt do anything.

But yeah, I agree we need to work with Lock. Maybe you can convince him to lover you? Somehow we need him elected. Or maybe get Hentos as mayor since he had a nice convo with Lock and actually has the bullets to vote for himself.

The other thing we need now is to figure out our strategy so we all coordinate to grab locations or just kill. Also ask Hentos about his mutually beneficial deals from his role, and see if we can get those on us.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

Apparently one of them is that he can reset dice, he said he has to reset Lock's but he will see if he can reset mine too. If so, then Liosan will have barely hurt me at all!

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

Nice!

Also Meanas is an Ace, as my find worked. Meaning not a target to us, but we are a target to their faction.

Apparently kedeviss didn't move to me, a different alt did. No big deal, as hopefully the hex still did sanity damage to everyone.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 01:32 PM, said:

No, I said that I couldn't afford to send you a small summon. I think Tapper got all confused when I changed everything because of the stupid wagers fucking up my shit.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 01:35 PM, said:

WTF is Grasp on about?

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 01:35 PM, said:

Heh, yeah. I was surprised by that, as I didn't think you could afford it either.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

I'm gonna try to get Meanas to friend me, then pretend I'm an Aces member and try to get more info from him.


What tile were you on when you did the find on Meanas?

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

Though that might not work considering I basically accused Lio of being the Card Shark on thread.

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

Find was in mud street.

Also, I think Hentos needs to get a bit more active , than he has been if we don't want a repeat of yesterday. Any idea who is running that alt?

[Jalan]

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

I also called Lio stupid for basically revealing everything about the role. Maybe Hentos would be a good double agent? Or we don't need to do it, though knowing more of that faction narrows down who need actually need dead.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

Find was in mud street.

Also, I think Hentos needs to get a bit more active , than he has been if we don't want a repeat of yesterday. Any idea who is running that alt?

It's Knucklehead

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 02:36 PM, said:

The below is a Fanderay quote. I think Hentos needs to rock with it.


Hentos as the other lynch canidate do you want to be mayor? I'd gladly vote you. Liosan, Hanas or Demelain I saw your names being bantered around yesterday as well so you can't feel all that safe. I'd consider any of the above for mayor.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

Maybe, but Hentos isn't very active, and that's a problem.


Only Meanas seems to be vehemently against Barghast's 'Let's do random shit' idea, which I think is just abot the stupidest thing I've heard so far.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

If I manage to get myself elected Mayor today, I'm making you the Judge.



I say put Liosan as one of your lynch choices, but then choose 2 others that aren't Meanas (given it doesn't really matter for us if Meanas lives or dies beyond the fact that he needs to kill us).

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 02:55 PM, said:

Maybe Cast as # 2.

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

I still want Fanderay dead. You see what I posted, definitely think lynch stalled for Fanderay's sake.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:

I agree. So we can lynch Liosan, Fanderay and maybe Cast, or Barghast. I'd like to get Barghast and his knowing ways out of the thread sooner rather than later.

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 03:12 PM, said:

Yeah, good point.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

It's gonna be a slap in Fanderay's face if he votes me for Mayor, thus getting the ball rolling, then ends up lynched because of it! *evil laughter*

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

Maybe try working with Fanderay to get that msyor vote vote? It would allow Hentos to vote as well in a revenge scheme, and that's 2 votes- you are up and running. Plus others claiming they may support you too.

[Jalan]

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:17 PM, said:

Yeah, I'm hoping I can get Fanderay on my side.

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 03:17 PM, said:

Yeah, good, we are thinking the same thing.

I can be judge while picking 2 of Fanderay's 3 targets to make it look like he lied!

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:21 PM, said:

I think if I get Mayor and I give you judge, you should choose Liosan, Fanderay and Barghast or Cast.



People are gonna come down on me for obviously electing someone other than Fanderay as the Judge, but I can just pass that off as "Well I told PS I wanted Fanderay to be Judge, someone must have used an ability to change my choice"

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

I'd be cautious dropping PS's name or talking about your PM to him. Tapper is just waiting to get some kill action himself haha.

Right now I'd pick Barghy, Lio, and a third- maybe not Fanderay cause that would look worse for you.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

I'd be okay with that if you wanna kill off Fanderay. You're right in that he's almost definitely being protected, and I feel that if that`s the case, the only way we get him lynched is if we do it sneakily. I'm already the centre of attention on thread, I don't mind continuing to pull the attention to me. It keeps the attention off you and Hentos.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:51 PM, said:

Bek Okhan has said he can do things during the day without using bullets (we have a Friend convo going). Make you think of anyone?

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

Looks like I'm eventually gonna sway Fanderay, and Bek Okhan will probably follow. Then if Hentos jumps on, Meanas will probably see that I'm the next best thing to Barghast so will also jump on. At that point, I think you can jump on and pretty much make it a sure thing. I hope things keep going the way they seem to be going right now, and that Fanderay either denies the Shoot Out, or at least survives it.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

Bek has also revealed that he has very little aim.

Also, as a follow up to the lynching Fanderay thing, I'd rather deal with people wondering how Fanderay got lynched, then Fanderay coming on thread tomorrow saying that he wasn't chosen Judge. I think it will be a lot easier to slither out of the former than the latter.

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

Roger that. You should have Hentos cast an early vote since he is here now.

I'll look into possible Bek roles.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

I'm chatting it up with Hentos now.

Bek has said that he's not Aces as well.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

Hentos has made a good point - have you gotten anything from your friendship with Grasp?

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

If we call low aim 3 or less, the possible choices are...

Alchebiomist

Enginseer

Student of Technology

Cattle Thief

Card Shark

Confed Captain

Southern Scion

Given that we think Lio is the card shark, and we know Meanas is also an Ace, it is unlikely to be the cattle thief. As Bek said he can do day abilities without bullets- I'd be leaning towards a University player.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

Yeah, I was looking at it, and Enginseer is what struck me as the most likely.

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 04:45 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

Hentos has made a good point - have you gotten anything from your friendship with Grasp?

Not really. We haven't talked too much- mainly about him getting hit during the move phase and that Barghast's mayor idea is stupid. He did say that he is hiding during the day and has been moving to mud street and then away again at night.

[Jalan]

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

Well that's interesting. If I had any summons with dice that didn't need to be reset (all my current summons need to to either take HP damage or deal damage in order for their dice to reset), I'd send them to Mud Street and attack Grasp. I'll let Hentos know.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 04:54 PM, said:

Hentos is sitting on Fleece Spring with me by the way. He says that Merrid and Bek are NOT on Fleece Spring.

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 04:54 PM, said:

Yeah, not sure if that's still his plan, but I was thinking the same thing.

He said he did it that way initially because he thought his last lover (Bek maybe) was planning to attack. And that mud street is probably safe at night because people need to invest elsewhere.

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

I'm tempted to share Meanas's faction with Grasp, just to see if he'll share info back. I don't really see how it will backfire unless they are on the same team and don't know it. I think that is unlikely though.

Think it's worth trying?

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 07:06 PM, said:

I did with Bek Okhan, that's how I found out that he's not Aces. I think it's worth a try. If Meanas is Aces, and Lio is, in fact, the Card Shark, then there's only a 2/17 chance that he's an Aces

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

Passed it on. The only info I got was from Grasp's lover convo with Bek yesterday, and that Grasp thinks Bek is the channeler. Obviously, that is wrong heh. I mentioned he could pass the Meanas info to his other lover Denul, and see if we get more info there.

I'm also trying to sway him towards voting you. I mentioned that I was leaning that way because it was better than Barghast, and we need a lynch, despite me not liking Fanderay.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 08:48 PM, said:

Fucking Hentos, wtf is he doing? Now I have to fight my own team mate to get elected?

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 08:49 PM, said:

Yeah no kidding. Needed him to vote for you and run for second place so Barghast doesn't get it. I guess it's good he is contributing more? It would be better if he contributed in a different way though.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

He said he's trying to get himself into 2nd place, so that if the vote gets blocked again, he'll end up making the choices. I suppose that's better than trying to steal my votes.

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

If no one reaches 9, then there is no election anyway, which is a worse option. Grasp is leaning towards Hentos as he also doesn't like Fanderay.

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

Yeah, it's gonna completely fuck us is what it's going to do, but I guess we'll see how things play out.

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

Well, at least he picked an apt username... Knucklehead, sounds about right.

[Jalan]

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

Anyway, gotta go do groceries then head home. I'll be on later!

Jalan, on 29 August 2013 - 02:16 AM, said:

So Hentos and I are thinking that Bek is either South or Corporate, which we both need to get rid of. So if Hentos gets elected Mayor, he's gonna make me the Judge. I'm gonna choose Bek, then decide on the other 2 depending on what his judge choice is. If I get elected Mayor, you're the judge, you should get rid of Liosan, Fanderay, and Bek? What do you think?

Jalan, on 29 August 2013 - 02:18 AM, said:

If Hentos gets Mayor, then I can't make Liosan a target, otherwise it's gonna get traced right back to me, so our idea is that I don't lynch Liosan, and then get all vocal about Liosan still being around. It would allow me to continue being vocally against him, which is totally in character for me, and then Hentos can play the 'someone must have fucked up the Judge choice' thing that I suggested you play too.

Ultama, on 29 August 2013 - 02:35 AM, said:

Sounds good enough. Always good to eliminate the known enemies, though I think Barghast needs to die still too. I hope I get judge just because I want our faction to get the hero heh. As much as I could use the extra stuff on me, I really want to know what is behind door number 1.

What is Hentos's location?

Jalan, on 29 August 2013 - 02:54 AM, said:

He's at Fleece Springs with me

Ultama, on 29 August 2013 - 03:08 AM, said:

I think we should consider using our magic die to invest today. Investments can be made in any phase, so potentially you could stay safe during the night phase, then move to mud street and invest with move phase 2. No one has been at the beer bar yet, where I am currently stationed, so I could take that. Mud street is currently in a stalemate, so someone else moves there, and the last stays on fleece spring. If we go all out to go 5-5-5-5, it could be enough.

Now I don't know if we would be able to take mud street, and the Morman house could be snagged back by the cult if they continue to invest, but this may be worth a shot. I figure we are the most coordinated team so we should use that to our advantage.

Plus, if we do this everyone will think the LaRua are the biggest threat on thread, and rightly so. IF we were to invest and leave Bek alive, he could be the fall guy tomorrow.

Jalan, on 29 August 2013 - 03:14 AM, said:

I didn't submit a move for Movement Phase 2, so I'm stuck at Fleece Spring until Movement Phase 1 tomorrow. We can figure something out for tomorrow, but for now, we need to wait, I think.

Jalan, on 29 August 2013 - 03:17 AM, said:

Wait... Sorry, have had a few beers, just realized I can still submit move actions.

I'm gonna deal with this move action stuff tomorrow when I'm more sober. Hentos and I are both Canadian, so around long before Day times out barring a quick vote.

Ultama, on 29 August 2013 - 03:21 AM, said:

Heh, no problem. Actions aren't iron man anyway. Just take another look at my thoughts tomorrow and pass them along. I think it's a strategy we really should consider, and personally, I think doing it now presents the best chance to win.

Anyway, I'm off til tomorrow, when we get our faction in office! See ya.

Jalan, on 29 August 2013 - 03:25 AM, said:

The other thing I feel I should remind you of is that I have 0 bullets until Day 3, so can't invest until Day 3.

Ultama, on 29 August 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

Yo, Fnderay only has two targets- Liosan and Cast. It's good to look in the know when you are running heh.

About to submit my lynches- think it should be Lio, Fanderay, and Barghast. Not Bek because I still like the location idea. If we all want to follow that idea you could use [1] cheat as a bullet, I think? Sound good for lynches?

Ultama, on 29 August 2013 - 04:27 PM, said:

Confirmed on those 3. I think keeping Bek is a good strategy for now. Barghast is dangerous and needs to die, Liosan so you can move on, and Fanderay since he is being protected IMO.