[Bek Okhan]

Fanderay, on 27 August 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

Great now I'm thinking that Hanas could be one of ours. I don't want to lynch anyone that is with us. Can you make another connection today? Knowledge is power as they say.

Bek Okhan, on 27 August 2013 - 06:36 PM, said:

Yes but I have to pick wisely.

Bek Okhan, on 27 August 2013 - 06:45 PM, said:

I hope you used Intimidation against Cast or you are going to be lynched, it appears. Fuck and a half this game is hard to play without being here 18 hours a day.

Fanderay, on 27 August 2013 - 07:07 PM, said:

No I used it on Lock. If Lock doesn't get elected Mayor then he can't elect anyone as Judge. Though Using it on a Judge never even crossed my mind. That might actually be a good idea. It's less shady looking on me and it would make the Mayor look super shady and get his ass lynched instead.

Finally get some heat off of me.

Fanderay, on 27 August 2013 - 07:11 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 27 August 2013 - 06:36 PM, said:

Yes but I have to pick wisely.

Barghast, Lock, Cast, Meanas, Hanas, Merrid, Ultama, Rashan (he's hasn't been modkilled yet?), Nimandar, Hentos, Denul, Jalan

Lots of choices.

What are you thinking of as far as criteria before you make a connection?

Fanderay, on 27 August 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 27 August 2013 - 07:07 PM, said:

No I used it on Lock. If Lock doesn't get elected Mayor then he can't elect anyone as Judge. Though Using it on a Judge never even crossed my mind. That might actually be a good idea. It's less shady looking on me and it would make the Mayor look super shady and get his ass lynched instead.

Finally get some heat off of me.

But now I can't attack anyone tonight as I used all of my bullets. If I can't get any heat off of me I might have to start considering using 5 Card Stud myself so I can reset some die and get some attacks in tomorrow.

Fanderay, on 27 August 2013 - 07:23 PM, said:

Reach out to Hentos Ilm. Promise him you can save him from a lynch but he has to tell you his faction or he has to vote for who you want for mayor tomorrow or just get something from him that we can use. Between you me, him and Demelain that is 4 votes for someone of our choice probably Demelain (he was a valid lynch option so he'll be on board). We could reach out to Hanas and Liosan tomorrow on thread to get the votes to 6 saying that everyone is looking to lynch them so side with us. You could also reach out to two new people to try and find even one more of our faction.

Then if we haven't found more of our faction, promise the 4 players that swing back to our mayor option that they won't be lynched and then make our lynch options whoever is left over.

Fuckers will rue the day they tried to lynch me.

Fanderay, on 27 August 2013 - 07:25 PM, said:

Cue Demelain that we have a plan to get him elected Mayor tomorrow (if my action to save myself worked that is).

I think we can get things turned back around to our favor quite quickly.

Bek Okhan, on 27 August 2013 - 08:11 PM, said:

Great ideas will move on it when I get a moment, swamped at work.
Too bad you had to block Lock but oh we'll, next time. DIY

Bek Okhan, on 27 August 2013 - 08:17 PM, said:

Replacement mayor would have been sweet though. Could have lynched both of em

Fanderay, on 27 August 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

Too bad Tapper resolved before you put in another friendship. Now that it's night it's too late. Hold off on reaching out to Hentos tomorrow. We'll probably get his vote tomorrow anyway. I'm not sure if you should reach out to lock and Cast tomorrow to rule them out as targets. Jalan as well. Those are my top three targets for a lynch tomorrow.

Fanderay, on 27 August 2013 - 08:20 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 27 August 2013 - 08:17 PM, said:

Replacement mayor would have been sweet though. Could have lynched both of em

Would that have worked?

I didn't have the bullets as I used them all up to use my intimidation. I only had 3 left and to self-vote I needed 2 bullets on for the vote and one for the confidence. I wouldn't have enough bullets left over for intimidation to work.

[Bek Okhan]

Bek Okhan, on 27 August 2013 - 08:21 PM, said:

Yeah just wishful thinking.

Fanderay, on 27 August 2013 - 08:23 PM, said:

I could have voted for you though. But now the thread knows about a replacement mayor so expect a few trains from now on.

Bek Okhan, on 27 August 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:

Day expired first, sigh. Today sucked and I didn't have enough time with Tapper and I on simultaneously to plot out my course for the day. I would have Friended Hentos but gotta wait until tomorrow now. I just decided to invest a ton into Mormon House since I missed any chance to do any other actions. It won't be enough to take it over, and I'm moving to the Judge's office now, but it should be enough to force someone to think about securing Mormon House with more dice.

Tomorrow will go a LOT better for me. I will be able to take day actions without using bullets--including voting and removing, and I'm moving so I can actually vote tomorrow.

I'm Demelain know about the plan, but we need to figure out who to reach out to ASAP tomorrow. I'd say either the instigators today (Cast, Lock?) or the victims (Hentos?) Victims may get us easier votes, instigators can help us determine if we are going to need to kill them or not.

The day should sync up better for me so I don't miss a lot of action.

Bek Okhan, on 27 August 2013 - 11:03 PM, said:

My plan tomorrow is to friend two people, buy Insurance of the Faith (still considering this... best usage of dice but not a necessary item unless we control any areas), and then 5-Card Stud to reset Hearts[4][2][2], Cheat[1], Pixie Powder[1] (since Bullets are free during day)l.

There's 6-8 roles that could have 8 hearts at this point in the game (counting XP gains, and I'm sure there are some hidden XP gains, too) so I think I'm pretty safe from being immediately guessed. Then I am strongly considering getting two more Friendships made. That will bring us to 6 total and I feel like we stand a good chance of getting one of us elected Mayor. Of everyone, I trust you the most (for obvious reasons). To keep him trusting, we may want to get Demelain elected Mayor and trust that he elects you Judge (I think it would be fitting for you to become the Judge). However, it may be easier for me to be elected Mayor if I'm doing all of the Friendships.

I'd say we should be shooting for people likely to vote with us and just hope for upside of finding teammates. Still can't decide between the aggressors or victims today. Aggressors are better choices in that we know they are hungry for a lynch, and the upside of finding allies is good, but the downside is if we don't find an ally, we may be wasting our time if they keep after you and Dem. Victims may be more likely to join our cause as neutral parties. Honestly, either way is going to feel really bad if we pick and ally with say, 4 people for votes and NONE of them are members of our faction. We then stand a sizable risk of lynching our own teammates unless we backstab some of them.

Bek Okhan, on 27 August 2013 - 11:05 PM, said:

Also, let's come up with a plan in case comms are severed.

If we are ever severed from communications, pick someone you want me to initiate communications with, or otherwise trust. Reply/quote them on-thread and in your reply say the word first at some point. That will be my signal you want me to Friendship them.

I will say shortly thereafter in a post of my own, sexy if it's someone on our team or silly if it's someone not on our team.

Fanderay, on 27 August 2013 - 11:13 PM, said:

I have no way of figuring out who is on our team versus who isn't on our team. Also you should have to worry about losing comms as you have that item that prevents your comms from being severed.

I was also thinking of you gaining 6 friendships tomorrow but was afraid it would out you on thread. THough with 6 more friendships you could easily find at least one of our two remaining faction members.

If you do go all out with the friendships then I would definately reach out to Lock, Cast, Jalan and Barghast. Cast and Lock because I want them dead but want to verify for sure they are not on our team and Barghast and Jalan as I don't fully trust either one of them.

Merrid would also be a strong canidate to reach out to.

Hanas and Rashan are very quiet and I wouldlike to find out if either of them are lurking a lot and to find out if they might be easy kills.

I might go and use 5 card stud as well. If I do I can vote and Intimidate and call out on a player and still have enough bullets to attack one player 3 times tomorrow.

I'm seriously pissed I didn't get to attack anyone tonight. But on the plus side I didn't die. Can't be sorry for that.

Bek Okhan, on 27 August 2013 - 11:16 PM, said:

My item simply prevents them from expiring at the end of the day. Rivalry would still shut them off.

Fanderay, on 27 August 2013 - 11:46 PM, said:

Hmm I'll have to think on that. Someone will definately come along to sever your friendships at somepoint. I think your coding is fairly solid. We'll just go with that. The only thing I might change is the word First for signaling. I may use that and not even realize I'm using code. Maybe something else....

I'm more or less going to be spotty for the rest of the week. We are in our quarter close and I have a shit ton of work to get done plus I'm behind on some reporting so that will probably hurt my participation next week as well.

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 02:53 PM, said:

I took a huge sanity hit last night. Lost 3 sanity. I'm going to be saving my bullets for attacks tonight.

As for today can you reach out to Jalan and Lock? Jalan because I have to deside if I'm siding with Liosan or him if I'm elected Judge. I know Lio isn't on my team so seeing him gone would be good but also I could use Lio for votes if Jalan isn't on my team so I'd like to veify where the advantage lies.

Lock I want to reach out to as that is who I stated I would like to lynch and I get the vibe that he has some kick ass mayororial abilities as he is pushing for himself to be elected every day. But if he does and is on our team I would rather support that than kill him if you know what I mean.

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 03:21 PM, said:

Tell Demelain if he wants my vote for Mayor he needs to step out and state that he wants to be mayor and that he would elect me as Judge!!!

I'm not going to vote for him unless he already garners a lot of support for other players otherwise. I even gave him an opportunity on thread to jump on to jump start his election campaign.

Sheesh. If he wants be form a voting block he needs to get off his ass and participate.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:21 PM, said:

Makes perfect sense and I had the same impression about Lock. I like Jalan a lot too, but need to know if he's on our team to start figuring out long term plans.

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

So get on those friendships why don't you!!!!

We needs that info.

[Bek Okhan]

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

I am! Jalan has told me that Liosan drained all of Jalan's bullets and Jalan can't reset them now. Jalan's pretty sure Liosan is the Card Shark. In either event, I feel pretty good that he's not in our faction.

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 03:38 PM, said:

Sorry I'm way behind on thread. Super busy at work and trying to get caught up.

So when you say in either event you feel pretty good that who is not in our faction? Liosan or Jalan?

Don't you get a find result?

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

No, Tapper is not around right now. I hate this part. I make friends and then just try to small talk until I actually learn something useful. I want to know about Jalan before I make my next move, but I don't want to wait forever either.

I feel good that Liosan is not in our faction. Lio did try to out Jalan as the Iron Worker and if that's true, that's good for us.

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

Don't you have to remain on a location to invest? If that is the case I don't think it Can be Jalan.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

I don't know. It's a Day Action, I believe, so maybe he invested before he left? In any event, we're waiting on PS to resolve.

You just got a Shootout from Cast. Just looking over the other roles on our team, nobody but you has the Spades to make that call, so I say Cast is a good lynch target.

Do you want to engage in the shootout or use a Speed die to run?

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

Jalan isn't saying much now, but he did say Meanas is an Ace, so that's another safe lynch.

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

Jalan isn't saying much now, but he did say Meanas is an Ace, so that's another safe lynch.

Did he say how he found out?

Well fuck about the shoot out. I'll respond when I get to it.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:

He didn't. He did say this, though:

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:58 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

Nah, I've got nothing much to say, but I do know that Meanas is a member of the Aces faction.

Guessing that means you aren't a member of the Aces since you wouldn't out your own man, I'd assume... I'm not an Ace either, for what it's worth.

Good deduction skills Watson!

I'd rather not get into disucssions that are gonna out either of us. The fact that neither of us is Aces should be far enough along that road.

I suppose as a tit for tat, I could say that I have a lot of Heart.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

I feel like him revealing a lot of Heart is indicative of him not being in our faction. I have the most hearts in our faction, followed by the Iron Worker at 6 (Diamonds at 7). We'll see, though. I misled him a bit about some of my other stats to avoid giving that info up.

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

Well wait for the ability results and go from their. I wouldn't waste a friendship with Cast but it may still be worth it to reach out to Lock but we'll have to wait and see.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

As of this moment, Hentos is back and seems to support the underdog lynch. We can probably get a vote from him on Jalan without using Friendship on him. I am going to get 4 Friendships in today, but I can't decide who I want #2 to be (before I reset).

Alternatively, if Jalan (or my #2) ends up being in our faction, I may not reset, but it's close. I want to buy an item that will cost my Hearts[4] but I also want to invest Hearts[4] into my location in order to take control of it (Judge's office... someone here from our faction has done all of the investment other than Hearts).

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 04:48 PM, said:

I think Jalan is the Alchebiomist (University) or Confederate Captain (South) if he's telling the truth. He said his speed is low and that fits the rest of his profile.

Student of Technology (University), Southern Scion (South), and Iron Worker (Cult) are also reasonable guesses.

[Bek Okhan]

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Demelain just said he doesn't want any of your lynches dead and can't count on our vote. May be time to consider lynching Dem if you can get made Judge.

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

We knew it was likely going to come to this anyway. So be it.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

Demelain, on 28 August 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:

Barghast/Grasp/Merrid would be my ideal candidates. Of course I can get behind lynching of 3 low-posters as well. Hanas is just infuriating.

Do we have a handle on Cast's faction yet? It could be Cast and Liosan and Dem are all in a faction. I think Cast thinks I may be in La Rua because I "outed" that Cast's vote could count in Mormon House if he was La Rua, and he wanted to Shootout there. We could tentatively peg them all as La Rua.

La Rua also has moderate to high spades on every member and they all have pretty solid bullets, too. Those would be stats I'd expect from someone getting into shootouts.

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

All I know is that Cast can't be in ours as I'm the only one with enough spades to do the shoot out minus abilities and items of course.

Of the list that Dem provided the only one I'm okay with is Grasp. I don't know enough of the other two to make that call.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 05:05 PM, said:

Ok, I think Jalan bit on my "reveals" and thinks I'm the Enginseer, the role with low bullets and aim. He says he is pretty sure he knows my faction and my faction isn't one his needs dead. That fits with him being in the South, so we should put Jalan as a confederate zombie for now.

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 05:11 PM, said:

Good work. Do we want Jalan to be Mayor then? If not then I'm thinking of using the ability to block him from being mayor so he can't screw me over with who he elects as judge. Then I'll use my 5 card stud ability to reset my speed die, 2 bullet die, diamond die and Spade die.

Then i attack Cast three times tonight. Surely that will cause him some damage.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 05:44 PM, said:

I think yes. Jalan seems pretty legit and I haven't told him that I am still in communication with you. He really wants Liosan gone. Like, badly, lol...

Plus, there's a reasonable chance we can blow up a good portion of one faction we need to kill.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 05:49 PM, said:

Friending Hentos. Just got a feeling. Plus, he's a commonly-mentioned lynch candidate. It would be nice to know if he's someone we can safely discard down the line or if he's an ally under duress.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 07:47 PM, said:

Tapper finally got back and unfortunately, neither Hentos nor Jalan are members of my faction. Here is an update with all of the people we have some knowledge or guesses upon.

Bek Okhan - Cult
Fanderay - Cult

Liosan - La Rua
Cast - La Rua


Meanas - Ace

Jalan - South

Emurlahn - ??? (modkilled)
Grasp - ??? (not Cult)
Hentos Iln - ??? (not Cult)
Demelain - ??? (not Cult)
Unknown: Barghast, Denul, Hanas, Lock, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Rashan, Ultama

I figure at this point I should reset and try to reach out to Lock next, since we seem to want him on our side right now anyway. Any thoughts on the last person I should hit up? Someone random like Nimander? Someone who was on your side early like Merrid?

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 07:50 PM, said:

Merrid is my first choice because I want to see about that 5 die he keeps throwing out there and as for the second, Lock or Barghast are both good choices.

Man after the initial loverlink we are not having any luck finding anyone else on our team. Watch it turns out to be either Rashan or Hanas as our teammates.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 07:52 PM, said:

I was JUST looking over Merrid. Anybody with a high bullet die probably has a low speed to make resets easier. The Iron Worker has Bullets 5 and Speed 2, so I am going to try for Merrid. I think my last one will be for Lock but we'll see.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

Grasp/Merrid/Cast is Demelain's current desire to lynch. He and Hentos want to get Hentos made into Mayor with Dem as the Judge and lynch those three. It puts Demelain outside of La Rua, but that's fine, we know he's not one of us.

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

Grasp/Merrid/Cast is Demelain's current desire to lynch. He and Hentos want to get Hentos made into Mayor with Dem as the Judge and lynch those three. It puts Demelain outside of La Rua, but that's fine, we know he's not one of us.

They can be the alternate to Barghast as Grasp and Cast are on our hit list.

Though I'd rather they not lynch Grasp as I'm looking to attack him tonight.

[Bek Okhan]

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 08:17 PM, said:

They want you to change your mind about shooting Grasp so he can be lynched. But they also want to lynch Merrid, and I'm not so much in favor of that until I can learn his faction.

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 09:00 PM, said:

What!!!

You told Demelain that I'm attacking Grasp tonight?

Please say you didn't do that.

That is information I did not want getting out there.

I will change my target to someone else if they don't lynch Merrid. I've only got two lynch targets right now and don't plan on doing a third. If they just lynch Grasp and Cast then I'd be okay with the proposed changes.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 09:06 PM, said:

Sorry, I did tell Dem you were going to shoot Grasp. I got a lot of conversations going on right now =p

To be honest, though, as much as Hentos is going to try and get elected, I don't think it will work. There seems to be more support for Jalan. I am trying to avoid voting as long as possible because I'm not sure how much Hentos will reveal after I vote for Jalan for mayor.

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 10:08 PM, said:

Reveals aren't allowed in this game.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 10:16 PM, said:

"Reveal" in private conversations.

I've got some pretty good info from Merrid, but still waiting on Path-Shaper to give me faction info.

Merrid says he can't afford to spend Hearts, so unless he's lying, he's not the Iron Worker. If he's telling the truth, he could be the Locomindhive, but he'd have to have somehow gained more bullets on Day 1. He did say he can do "Finds" in lieu of his other abilities (and not using Diamonds[6]). He hasn't done any yet but is willing to do one or two for me and Telegram me tomorrow with the results. He could be someone outside of the Cult... some options are

Scion of La Rua (Bullets 6, Hearts 3)
Texas Ranger (Bullets 9, Hearts 0)
Gunslinger (Bullets 8, Hearts 2)
Cattle Thief (Bullets 7, Hearts 3)
Bank Robber (Bullets 9, Hearts 3)
Teslamancer (Bullets 10, Hearts 3)

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 10:30 PM, said:

Sounds like Merrid is a crafty one. I'd be careful of the information.

I went and kept my boost attack on Grasp. If he get's lynched then I'll just attack someone else. By attack won't be as effective but at least I'll still get one off.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 10:37 PM, said:

I'm going to shoot an alt tonight. I really need to start getting some XP and they should be easy to kill with only 1 HP.

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 10:47 PM, said:

Except you don't get XP from a temporary alt that hasn't been claimed by a faction. And once they have been claimed their is no guarantee they will be as easy to kill as you think but I do agree the temporary alts are getting a bit to large. It's too bad you couldn't start using the temp alts to start laying claim to some locations.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 10:55 PM, said:

I'm investing minimum of Hearts[4] into Judge Wallace's office so I can start making trains. But it takes Hearts[6] to make a train and I don't know if I can burn two Cheat [1] dice to boost Hearts[4] to [6]. I need XP, badly.

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 04:19 AM, said:

I'm still waiting on Tapper. Ugh. Frustrating with the delays.

Fanderay, on 29 August 2013 - 04:28 AM, said:

You probably have a couple more hours before he is back on and then however many more before he resolves. I wonder where Gnaw is? This is something that he can provide.

Also you can't start making holy trains until you level up and bump your hearts to a 6. I'm surprised by your heart allocations. The trains would be a strength of yours if you gave yourself a 6 right out of the gate.

Well back to reading up.

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 05:10 AM, said:

Trains were only good if I had Hearts 6 to start and we could get a location. I had a choice of going for locations + trains or going for communications. I chose the latter.

[Bek Okhan]

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 02:10 PM, said:

Merrid and Barghast are not in the fold either.
Bek Okhan - Cult,
Fanderay - Cult

Liosan - La Rua
Cast - La Rua

Meanas - Ace
Jalan - South

Emurlahn - ??? (modkilled)
Barghast, Demelain, Grasp, Hentos Ilm, Merrid - ??? (not Cult)

Unknown: Denul, Hanas, Lock, Nimander Golit, Rashan, Ultama

At this point I'm running out of people to check

Fanderay, on 29 August 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 02:10 PM, said:

Merrid and Barghast are not in the fold either.
Bek Okhan - Cult,
Fanderay - Cult

Liosan - La Rua
Cast - La Rua

Meanas - Ace
Jalan - South

Emurlahn - ??? (modkilled)
Barghast, Demelain, Grasp, Hentos Ilm, Merrid - ??? (not Cult)

Unknown: Denul, Hanas, Lock, Nimander Golit, Rashan, Ultama

At this point I'm running out of people to check

Try Nimander as one of the choices, They are staying very much in the background. And then just do a randomizer to pick the second one.

On a side note I'm hoping that you using the 5 card stud doesn't get you killed. You will have 3/5th of the players know that you aren't on their team and are fair game to come after.

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 29 August 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 02:10 PM, said:

Merrid and Barghast are not in the fold either.
Bek Okhan - Cult,
Fanderay - Cult

Liosan - La Rua
Cast - La Rua

Meanas - Ace
Jalan - South

Emurlahn - ??? (modkilled)
Barghast, Demelain, Grasp, Hentos Ilm, Merrid - ??? (not Cult)

Unknown: Denul, Hanas, Lock, Nimander Golit, Rashan, Ultama

At this point I'm running out of people to check

Try Nimander as one of the choices, They are staying very much in the background. And then just do a randomizer to pick the second one.

On a side note I'm hoping that you using the 5 card stud doesn't get you killed. You will have 3/5th of the players know that you aren't on their team and are fair game to come after.

I have full health and full sanity and both are pretty solid stats. Nothing has happened to me that has yet affected my dice. Even if I'm killed, you should get some decent info out of it.

If we lose conversation, I may befriend you again later, but until that happens, pay close attention to the thread for my friendships. If I friendship someone and then later quote that person in a reply and say the word quick you know it's an ally.

Fanderay, on 29 August 2013 - 04:16 PM, said:

Got it.

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

Lots more information coming, I think. Hentos really wants my vote and is going to give me 2 factions (Lock and Demelain). Merrid also wants me to not lynch him and said he could do finds for me tonight to give me information tomorrow. Barghast says that Cast is insane and can't be elected Judge or he will self-lynch. I'm assuming that puts him in La Rua per my guesses.

Fanderay, on 29 August 2013 - 04:34 PM, said:

It would be nice to learn more about Lock but losing Merrid shouldn't be too big a loss for us as you already confirmed he isn't one of ours. Sounds like Cast is LaRue Released Wanderer. But if Merrid can give us finds I'd go with him as it also gives me XP as I should be elected Judge. Hentos giving us Lock's faction would be nice but we already know that Demelain isn't in our faction so we could potentially get more for our buck by voting Jalan for mayor.

Is it bad that I want to put my bullets in PMs now too.

Damn you Tapper and your requirements.

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 04:49 PM, said:

lol

I agree, Jalan is the way to go. Demelain has gotten a lot less chatty over the last few days. His responses are now terse one-liners and since he knows I can keep conversations open if I want (and I haven't, just with you two), he probably trusts me less and less.

I want to vote for Jalan but it won't do much good if we can't get a lynch. I want to get Hentos's information before I vote. If I have to, I will vote with Hentos because Cast/Grasp/Merrid are not in our faction and I'd rather get the lynch done now before it builds up again. Merrid's info would be nice, but I can friend so many people that I should be able to find the at least one--if not both--of our remaining members tomorrow.
For fun, I have been giving Barghast all kinds of good information... none of which is true

Fanderay, on 29 August 2013 - 04:54 PM, said:

Very nice.

I guess if I don't kill Grasp tonight then I will go for Demlain tomorrow just so we can tie up that loose end.

Fanderay, on 29 August 2013 - 06:17 PM, said:

So I was taking a look at VC and I was wondering why the University has to claim a location in both of it's victory conditions. I'm wondering if that is because there are fewer players on each team that they have to kill.

I'm wondering if there are only 3 players on the Cult team and 3 on LaRue as those are the two factions that the University has to kill off. Just wondering out loud.

[Bek Okhan]

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 06:28 PM, said:

I haven't inspected those VCs much yet to be honest. If University can't claim locations easily (like our faction can), then it may be there as a difficulty barometer.

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

Hentos is putting Demelain in the University with Lock as a member of the Aces. Pretty good odds tomorrow.

Bek Okhan - Cult
Fanderay - Cult
Liosan - La Rua
Cast - La Rua
Meanas - Ace
Lock - Ace
Jalan - South
Demelain - University
Emurlahn - ??? (modkilled)
Barghast, Grasp, Merrid - ??? (not Cult)
Hentos Ilm - ??? (South or La Rua)
Unknown: Denul, Hanas, Nimander Golit, Rashan, Ultama

Fanderay, on 29 August 2013 - 07:56 PM, said:

So what you are saying is that I should attack either Meanas, Lock or Jalan tomorrow night? Now I really wish I wasn't attacking Grasp tonight. I could switch but it's a bit of a waste of my action (which has to be in before midday). If I happen to kill Grasp then I can gain an additional ex on top of being selected Judge. Otherwise if whoever else I attack isn't where I'm at then my attacks don't even have enough bullets to fire. Forget that.

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 08:05 PM, said:

Grasp could still be an Ace and quite frankly, if they ain't Cult, it's shades of gray as to how "expendable" they are. I'd go ahead and shoot him.

Can you go ahead and summarize your actions for today?

Mine are:

Friendship x2 (Jalan, Hentos)
Invest Hearts[4] or purchase item that lets me reset dice if Locomindhive or Trains are killed (not sure yet, need clarification)
5 Card Stud
Friendship x2 (Merrid, Barghast)
Tonight: Invest in Judge's office to presumably control it, Shoot an alt and hope to gain XP

Fanderay, on 29 August 2013 - 08:10 PM, said:

I'm not sure how secure our off thead comms are. I don't want any easedroppers learning what I've done or plan on doing.

[Bek Okhan]

Bek / Hentos:

Hentos Ilm, on 28 August 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 05:49 PM, said:

Hello, Hentos! Nice to get to know you

Why do you think so many people are gung-ho about lynching you? You contribute, even if you aren't on as much as some of these guys.

Haven't the foggiest. Maybe because I'm the only one honest enough to admit when I'm supremely mindfucked?

Hentos Ilm, on 28 August 2013 - 06:05 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

No, it took me a long time to realize all kinds of stupid rules like the Location-specific rules and having to save Bullets to vote.

Anything you'd care to share about yourself or the game?

I'm not sure yet. You'll have to incentivize me. So far I've made lots of apparent enemies just by playing the way I normally play. I'd like to make some allies, but Lock kind of threw me under the aforementioned bus even after stating in chat that he wouldn't get me lynched.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

That's really too bad.

I see you're chatting with Demelain now. Any insight you'd like to share on him or Lock (since Lock had a bit of a hard-on for you).

Hentos Ilm, on 28 August 2013 - 08:11 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

As a show of good faith, I'll reveal to you that I don't have to spend bullets for Day actions, which is why I love to make friends

That's pretty cool. I think Demelain and I have come to good terms. He's agreed to support my election. Would you like to support me for mayor? I could try and reset some dice for you.

Hentos Ilm, on 28 August 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

Do you get to reset dice? That is pretty sexy.

Its a costly ability and I don't know yet if I can use it more than once a day, but yes. I can allow you to reset 2 dice.

Hentos Ilm, on 28 August 2013 - 08:56 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

That's generous of you, but I'm going to go ahead and reset myself, I think. Save your dice for someone who really needs it

I'm very worried that there aren't enough votes to elect you Mayor. You and Demelain have a plan to do so, but there is a lot of momentum for Barghast or Jalan. Lock will probably want to get his own campaign back up, too. I don't see much in your way just yet.

Lock hasn't been around today and I think his wishy washy stance on his selection process yesterday cost him much in the way of confidence today. I think it will likely be between me and Jalan. I hope so. Most people seem to be against Barghast's retarded plan.

Hentos Ilm, on 28 August 2013 - 09:33 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

I think Lock's time zone is the only issue right now for him. He's probably sleeping or something.

Perhaps, doesn't matter at this point. A lot of people don't have the bullets for an extra vote, or to remove and vote again. So if Jalan or I get even 3 votes it removes the possibility of a 4th candidate.

[Bek Okhan]

Hentos Ilm, on 29 August 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Quite the voting mess today... you guys are all basically tied.

Merrid has indicated he'd like to give me information in exchange for not voting for you (which just gets Merrid lynched). I'm pretty interested in his information, so would need a really good counter-offer to get your vote.

I can also offer you some information, on the level of faction alignments. You're even welcome to share it with Merrid. I can tell you Lock's alignment AND Demelain's alignment.

Hentos Ilm, on 29 August 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

But it has to wait until last break, I'm really late now.

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:

I'm listening.

Hentos Ilm, on 29 August 2013 - 06:51 PM, said:

Demelain told me he was with the University and Lock strongly implied that he was with Aces. I can't guarantee that they were honest but that is what I got from them.

Hentos Ilm, on 29 August 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

So it's probably safe to say you are neither faction, and it would be strange outing someone from among your own

As of this moment, I'm voting for Jalan but I can easily swap for you, too. Still lots of time left.

Correct, I am not in either of those factions. I honestly don't care if I become mayor, I just did not feel even slightly safe with Barghast and his RNG as our alternate choice. As it stands now, either I am elected, which is nice, or a guy who doesn't have me on the block is elected, which is also reasonably nice, or he gets blocked and mayor falls to me anyways which is once again rather nice.

[Bek Okhan]

Bek / Barghast:

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

Hello, friend!

What do you think about all of this vote nonsense between you, Jalan, and Hentos?

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

I think one of them is serious trying to stop a lynch is what - Liosan really isn't helping either. All it needs is one vote on me, no-one else except the mayor having any votes on them and my scenario follows through perfectly and our bastard messing with the lynches takes the same chance as you and I. Instead we've got an election split 3 ways with the alt no-one trusts trying to buy people into voting for me. I see his point but does he really believe the other two are being honest?

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

And, my boiler-plate convo opener now heads your way

As you probably figure I'm taking an information-is-important approach to this game, as a result of which I think sharing some information is vital and have concocted a scheme.

What I'd like is, as a gesture of mutual trust between us, for you to tell me two words from your Items list, of your choice according to a specification I'll lay out below. In exchange you can ask me for any three words from any of my items under the same specification. I urge truth but of course this being mafia I cannot guarantee it.

So, my specification is:

The words you give me, I'd like for the Nth word of the Nth item for each item description, where you select both Ns of your own will. Furthermore exclude the item name and any die scores from your count, so as below, selecting the 1st word of the 1st item you would reply "1st item word is spreads," the 2nd word of 2nd item "2nd word is the" etc. Your call as to which two items. Alternatively, tell me the cost of the nth item, but only the cost type of one part of it - so for item 3, you could say "3rd item, Luck [3], x [6] y [6].


Item Name / Cost / Effect

Machine Gun / Bullets [2], Diamonds [3] / Machine Gun spreads bullets [4] everywhere. Every alt on the location except you take damage [2]
AK-47 / Hearts [3], Gold Dust [1] / Double the damage of all attacks using this item, however recoil forces you to shoot yourself in the foot, taking Health [1] damage per cycle used
Magnum / Spades [2], Diamonds [3], Luck [3] / Shot that alt dead - if you hit, they die.

As you can see there's enormous scope for you to tell me nothing about your abilities whilst establishing a sort of mutual trust. As I'll be allowing you the same but letting you specify the item and the word and giving you 3 asks you have the potential to gain on the deal, with the same specification that item names are excluded when in the text.

You may be wondering why I'm doing it - if I can garner some information then I can make more informed decisions. You getting more than me is a trade-off I'm willing to make to increase my own personal stocks. You've also been the main chatter so I know there is lots to be shared if you're amenable.

I do have some titbits to share too, but that'll wait on your response

Now I've had mixed responses to this, all have gone along with it though - it gives me a small sense of where your abilities may lie (given that you're only one of 3 roles anyway, I'm not particularly fussed about which) simply by placement of words. to, the etc are what I was hoping for in response which gives me a little sentence structure. I'll tell you all about what happened to another convo here if you play true

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 03:38 PM, said:

That is incredibly confusing. Why do people want to make an already confusing game even more confusing?

Can I just give you something more direct? I don't have much to hide.

I have an item that allows me to not spend bullets in the day. I can vote, friendship, and other things without spending bullets.

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

Heh, I quite enjoy the confusing side of it

It also tends to concentrate peoples minds enough to be receptive too

Also, you'd be amazed how much you can determine about an item by knowing where a common word is in the sentence and hence about the abilities of the holder. Please don't pass that along though, I want to get as much as possible out of people without them being warned!

You're one of 3 roles anyway, I know that much as I said on thread, there is a moderate/good chance we are not mutual enemies at all which is nice.

If I destroy one of my (more expensive, admittedly) items I can nominate a target location and deal a small amount of damage to each alt on that location at Daybreak.

Yours is a nice one for being an information hub with that perk, you must have picked up so much by now - this is what, number 7, 4 of which are today? Any ideas on team makeup?

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 04:01 PM, said:

I'm quite amused that I've been pigen-holed into one of three roles based on public information

I can create a lot of temporary dice (once, each) and seeing people try to figure out who I am based on their imperfect information has been... amusing.

I don't know everyone's faction, not even close, but I have at least one faction semi-figured out (2-3 members, I think). I'm also pretty sure I know the identities of 3 other people outside of that faction. But there are a lot of unknowns, including my own faction members ;p

Hah, yes, but I'm not going to admit I'm fallible so early in a conversation.

Dice implies Wagers, though I shall stop speculating there - if you want to tell me more you'll tell me more.

I'm curious as to which you think you have - the faction, you don't need to tell me the alt names unless you really want to - as I've got a few I'm reasonably sure on myself. You've got a respectable Find I guess?

You won't get much more out of me in terms of who I am, but if you're so smart surely you'll figure out in due time

I don't have a good find, but I have chatted with about half of the thread over the last few days and most people are pretty willing to give information about themselves in exchange for some about me. I'm sure there's a lot that's not true, but when people start revealing info about other people--including factions--I tend to think that's probably true.

[Bek Okhan]

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

I'd noticed, yeah. if you could count on your friends for votes you could get yourself Mayorship you know. My opening gambit is a bid for more information by the way - once they hand over a little they think "well this bit more can't hurt..."

One of my two totally misunderstood the limited information I was asking for and pretty much told me half his inventory. Narrowed it down some so I now know exactly the role he has.

As a gesture of goodwill, I'll throw this to you - Cast is insane, that's why de doesn't want to be a Judge. Suicide. He's quite happy stirring up shit and I've been egging him on.

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 04:16 PM, said:

I think we all can deduce that Cast is insane just from the way he acts on thread

You'd think being Mayor would be tempting with so many friends... political influence and all, but I actually can't be elected Mayor. If I get elected, whoever I nominate for Judge has to put me up for a lynch. It's a pretty awkward position

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

I wouldn't mind being Judge. There are plenty of people who don't like me.
A 3-party system doesn't work so well in a game that requires a majority and not a plurality. I think if the plurality was elected, it would be better. IMO.

I was pretty sure Hentos was going to win but now I don't know. A vote for you seems like a vote for chaos, so I don't see any particular reason that I should vote for you unless I actually knew your plan.

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

My plan, is, unfortunately for you, not coming out until the same time everyone else finds out.

Hentos is my pick of the two, simply to save the potential same dicking around tomorrow.

Throw me a bit of info about one of your friends now, I told you about Cast

And, off away from the computer for maybe 5 hours now

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 09:15 PM, said:

Nothing for me? I'm disappointed.

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 09:23 PM, said:

Oh, sorry... I am carrying on 4 conversations, you'll have to forgive me.

Hrm... what to throw out...

Here's one for fun: Demelain, Fanderay, Meanas, Jalan, and Liosan are all from different factions

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:

Hah, do they realise it? Poor sods. You went for the role you got deliberately to twist people around your finger didn't you

I know what faction Cast is no longer a member of.

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 09:29 PM, said:

Do know that all of that? I doubt it.

Got anything else of actual value? I think we all know what faction Cast was in

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 09:30 PM, said:

Go on then, prove you know

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 09:32 PM, said:

He's one of them crazy La Ruas.

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 09:32 PM, said:

And what little worm told you that?

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 09:37 PM, said:

Suddenly having doubts about your sources are we boyo? Or just bullshitting? Or am I?

[Bek Okhan]

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

That seriously sucks, you've got some weird mechanic there. You just want Judge then?

I've come to the conclusion that each faction must have an election influencing action of some kind, how the hell Tapper expects us to get a lynch like this I don't know.

What do you think of the current bollocks-up of an election? I rather suspect it's going to be another hung election day

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 09:42 PM, said:

Wouldn't you like to know

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 09:44 PM, said:

You know we're not really going to get much out of this because I don't believe a word you say and you me.

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 09:47 PM, said:

We could have been such good friends, Bargie I don't see any need to get all huffy.

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

Alas Bekkie (you don't mind me calling you that, right?) it seems we are not to be. Whilst I appreciate some bullshit, I dislike it when people think they're fooling me. It's a terrible character flaw I know, but I can live with it if you can. Don't worry, I have a mercurial temper, I'll be all over it soon

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 09:57 PM, said:

So be it

Make sure you say good-bye to old Cast-off for me...

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

Heh, will do, assuming we ever get anywhere near an election. Do encourage all your friends who haven't voted to put their damned vote down would you - if it doesn't run against your own interests of course.

Oh, out of interest, how is your sanity fairing?

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 10:47 PM, said:

Would you even believe me if I told you? lol

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 10:54 PM, said:

Well, if you're past the BS then I'd be willing to give it a try.

Barghast, on 29 August 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 11:05 PM, said:

What are you offering in exchange for my sanity?

Hah, that's a dubious trade, for me!

I'll tell you the effect on Sanity at one location on one night if you do the same.

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 11:28 PM, said:

Are you saying the effect on Sanity at a location from a night in the past? Like Night 1 at Location X...

[Bek Okhan]

Bek / Merrid:

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 08:38 PM, said:

Hello friend! I see my new friend Hentos Ilm really wants to lynch you!

Is there any particular information you'd like to share so I know why I shouldn't lynch you?

As a show of good faith, I can tell you that I love Hearts <3 and I can vote and remove my vote without spending bullets during the day

Merrid, on 28 August 2013 - 08:46 PM, said:

You certainly do love hearts. There can't be too many you haven't talked to as yet. Sound tactic if you can afford it (I, alas, cannot).

I don't know why Hentos is so against me - it's not like he's elaborated on it. Frankly, even if he's done a find or something on me and knows I'm not in his faction, I consider the way he's gone about it really bad play. No case making, no nothing, just endlessly repeating that he finds me vaguely suspicious. Not exactly something I can defend myself against.

I don't really know what kind of information you'd be looking for from me, care to elaborate?

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 08:51 PM, said:

In a game like this, I'd say there aren't many things you can do that are just "bad play." There are so many crazy abilities we know about, and everyone has tons of abilities and/or items to make it pretty hard to know what is good and bad play.

I do love my hearts, and quite frankly, while I have certainly given a lot of information about myself "out there," I am also quite confident that I have a lot of people who think enough of me that I have avoided getting lynched or even discussed as such after the first day. Even crusty old Grasp changed his tune after we chatted at length.

I don't know much about Hentos, either. He really wants to become Mayor right now though. He is working with Demelain to get elected and get you lynched.

Merrid, on 28 August 2013 - 08:57 PM, said:

Yup, those two sure don't like me, and I have no idea why. I would understand it more if I was a power player, but I am not (another reason why I put myself forward for Mayor/Judge on day 1, because I knew if it went sour it wouldn't be the end of the world for my team if they lost me).

You make a point about what can be 'bad play' in this type of game, which I feel just highlights even more how ridiculous Hentos' (and Demelain's) posting is.

Not that you have any reason to believe me, but the whole Merrid/Fanderay thing that people harped on back then was pure hogwash. Nobody was making a move for Mayor voting, so I decided to take Fander up on their offer - I continue to have absolutely no idea who they really are, or what faction.

At this moment, I think I'd like to see Jalan Mayor. I would have initially preferred Barghast, but I don't like his plan at all - not with 3 lynches on the line. Plus I believe he's worked out something with Cast, and they're keeping shtum about it.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 09:04 PM, said:

Of everyone in the thread, I trust Cast the least. Based on his actions and words, I feel like I have a good handle that he's not in my faction and would enjoy seeing him lynched. However, I think that's the same for both Hentos and Jalan's Mayorships. Everyone wants Cast dead!

A power player is what, someone who can kill people? It seems hard to kill people in this game. I don't even know what a power player is. Maybe I'm one since I keep chatting with people.

As it stands, is there any information you feel comfortable revealing that would make me want to back Jalan and not lynch you? Or any information you can share that would make me want to not back Hentos? Not saying I'm leaning in any one way, just trying to get a good reason to make up my mind.

Merrid, on 28 August 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

For what it's worth, I think I see two rough blocs developing, which will form uneasy, informal alliances until late into the game.

How long can you walk the edge, Bek?

Lock/Cast/Barghast tried to have their run for Mayor yesterday, now Jalan/Fanderay, probably Rashan and Hanas, will oppose them today. It's about which of the two sides appeals more to you based on what they say about their lynch choices. Hentos and Demelain are trying to form this third bloc, but I think sooner or later they'll be subsumed into one of the other two. Hentos is mainly doing it simply to avoide being lynched himself.


Barghy is very helpful, among those who have a firmer grasp of the game. But he's clearly hiding a lot behind that helpful veneer. There is no way that he is the impartial man that he promotes himself to be.

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 09:12 PM, said:

Hey, I'm playing for a team, too. It's not like I'm in a faction by myself!

But you are avoiding the questions =p

Merrid, on 28 August 2013 - 09:19 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 09:04 PM, said:

Of everyone in the thread, I trust Cast the least. Based on his actions and words, I feel like I have a good handle that he's not in my faction and would enjoy seeing him lynched. However, I think that's the same for both Hentos and Jalan's Mayorships. Everyone wants Cast dead!

A power player is what, someone who can kill people? It seems hard to kill people in this game. I don't even know what a power player is. Maybe I'm one since I keep chatting with people.

As it stands, is there any information you feel comfortable revealing that would make me want to back Jalan and not lynch you? Or any information you can share that would make me want to not back Hentos? Not saying I'm leaning in any one way, just trying to get a good reason to make up my mind.

I would say a power player is someone who has some very unique abilities (perhaps, for this game, I should say VERY unique abilities ) and is probably heavily focused/very strong in one of the three die columns.


What could I tell you? Maybe nothing yet. But I'll reveal this at least. I can do finds (in lieu of using other abilities), and I can find out what faction Hentos, Jalan, or whoever you want is on, and reveal that to you tomorrow through a telegram. If I'm lynched, I cannot do that

[Bek Okhan]

Merrid, on 28 August 2013 - 09:19 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 09:12 PM, said:

Hey, I'm playing for a team, too. It's not like I'm in a faction by myself!

But you are avoiding the questions =p

Actually, that was because I wrote my post while you were writing yours

Merrid, on 28 August 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 09:25 PM, said:

Not gonna lie, that Telegram you offered is extremely useful.

How many people can you find on? Is this using the Diamonds[6] ability, or something else?

No, it's using one of my own abilities. I can do one find per day/night (but, as I said, in lieu of doing other things which I might prefer to do, which is why I haven't done any finds as yet).

Bek Okhan, on 29 August 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

I'm interested in your Find + Telegram and would be willing to vote in a way to prove it. Who do you like more of Jalan or Barghast in terms of Mayor? (Not counting Hentos since you're Demelain's lynch target)

Merrid, on 30 August 2013 - 09:30 AM, said:

So? Any ideas on who you want the find on? There's like a half hour left to submit the action (even less if someone hammers).

[Bek Okhan]

Bek Orders:

Bek Okhan, on 21 August 2013 - 04:15 PM, said:

Day 1
I'd like to start on The Mormon's House.

I want to do a bunch of things, if I can do them the way I think it works.

Spend Bullets[1] from my [2] die
Clubs[6] - Buy Telegraph Station (Clubs at [0] from [6] base)


Spend Bullets[1] from my [2] die currently at [1]
Hearts[3] - Buy Cult Chapel (Hearts at [0][2] from [6][2] base)


Spend Bullets[1] from my [1] die
Hearts[2] - Friendship with Demelain (Hearts at [0][0])

Invest Diamonds[5], Spades[3][2] into The Mormon House (is Investment a day or night action? Does it cost a bullet? I have no bullets left)

I'm left with Bullets [0][0] out of [2][1] base.

Path-Shaper, on 21 August 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

Investment costs 1 bullet for the total investment in a single Location.

Path-Shaper, on 21 August 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 21 August 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

OK, it looks like I'm going to be seriously hindered by my lack of bullet dice for a while. And I need Bullets to level up by killing alts... but I need bullets to buy my billion items and invest so I can make CHOO CHOOS OF DOOM to advance my winning conditions >.<

I'm going to gamble early that nobody is going to spend a bullet and spades just to shut down my friendships. I figure my chances of being elected Mayo or Judge... and of NOT being lynched are better if I have a lot of off-thread communications, so my current strategy is to get as many people on my side as possible.

I'd like to open two lover chats today but really need bullets to do so.

Are the bullets gained from Uniform of the Faithful permanent or just one-time uses?

Permanent, for as long as you have the uniform.

Quote

I'd like to amend my setup to

Hearts 8 - [3][2][2] in order to further my agenda for today.

I'd like to amend my actions as follows:

Spend Bullets[1] from my [2] die
Pixie Powder[1], GoldDust[1] - Buy Uniform of the Faithful (PixiePowder at [2][1][0], Golddust at [2][1][0], Bullets at [1][1][1][1])

Spend Bullets[1] from my [2] die (currently at [1])
Clubs[6] - Buy Telegraph Station (Clubs at [0] from [6] base)


Spend Bullets[1] from a [1] die
Hearts[3] - Buy Cult Chapel (Hearts at [0][2][2] from [3][2][2] base)

Spend Bullets[1] from a [1] die
Hearts[2] - Friendship with Demelain (Hearts at [0][0][2])

Spend Bullets[1] from a [1] die
Hearts[2] - Friendship with Fanderay (Hearts at [0][0][0])

Bullets are now at [0][0][0][0] if my [1][1] from Uniform of the Faithful is permanent, or [0][0] if they are one-time uses. Can you confirm? Thanks!

Okidoki.
You can open the comms with Demelain and Fanderay by posting Freindship Demelain & Friendship Fanderay on thread, then send them a PM Invitation and including P-S.

Bek Okhan, on 21 August 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

Thanks. Whenever you or another mod can, I should get info on whether they are in my faction or not.

Path-Shaper, on 21 August 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

Fanderay is of your faction, Demelain is not.
However, per the "all actions resolve at end of phase" you officially don't know that yet. I would appreciate it if you didn't reveal this to them ubtil after day 1.

Path-Shaper, on 22 August 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 21 August 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

Oh, OK. Sorry, so many rules, hard to keep track of everything. I just figured it was a passive ability from my item that should occur when the communication thread is opened (regardless of timing about actions resolving, since this action should resolve immediately, I think).

Aye, it should, but the item would be created at the end of the phase. I am getting a tiny bit of a headache of my own timing things, too

Bek Okhan, on 22 August 2013 - 03:17 PM, said:

Oh, gotchya =)

When do we get to reset dice using Speed and Attunement? Day 2?

Thanks, Taps!

Path-Shaper, on 22 August 2013 - 07:29 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 22 August 2013 - 04:53 PM, said:

Oh I guess I have to submit Mayor and Judge orders...

Mayor: Elect Fanderay Judge
Judge: Lynch Liosan

Easy =p

cheers!

Path-Shaper, on 24 August 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 23 August 2013 - 11:09 PM, said:

Ok since I haven't gotten any info, I'm guessing I still have all of my defensive dice. If that's true, for Day 2 Use Speed 5 and Attunement 5 to reset

Bullets [2][1][1][1] (one wasted)

Hearts [4][2][2]
Clubs [6] (one wasted)

You do have all of them, aye.

Bek Okhan, on 27 August 2013 - 01:15 AM, said:

Spend Bullets[1] and Hearts[2] to use Friendship on Grasp.
Spend Bullets[1] and Cheat[1] to purchase Timetable of Titans (Bullets[2][1][0][0], Cheat[1][0])
Spend Bullets[1] and PixiePowder[1] to purchase Writ of the Infernals (Bullets [2][1][0][0], Pixie Powder [2][0][0])
Spend Bullets[1] (from [2]) and Hearts[4] to use The Mormon's House

Can you tell me if Grasp's in my faction per Cult Chapel's ability?

I'm at

Bullets[1][0][0][0]
Hearts[0][2][0]
Cheat[1][0]
Pixie Powder[2][0][0]

I need a Timetable of Titans badly. That will allow me to Friendship and vote for free. I also need to be able to reset my Cheat dice, and the price is good, hence Writ. I realize these items don't go into effect until next day.

None of my abilities do anything very useful just yet... so I need to keep buying items. Pixie Powder is going to be valuable for me... I need to find a way to kill a wanted alt, or get more dice by killing regular alts.

[Bek Okhan]

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 08:18 AM, said:

You are the only player in the Mormon's House thread for today, so far.

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 27 August 2013 - 01:02 PM, said:

What about Grasp? Is he in my faction, per Cult Chapel?

No, he is not.

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 03:15 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 27 August 2013 - 01:14 PM, said:

If I use 5-card stud, do I reveal the reset dice as their max value or their current value?

Max value.

Bek Okhan, on 27 August 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

I want to invest everything I have left in Mormon house. Then move to Mud Street. I'll be out of bullets.
6 clubs, 5 Diamonds, 2 hearts, 5 spades
Sorry for delayed actions, been very hard to play at work today and trying to coordinate with all,of my potential allies is really hard. Really wanted to do other actions today, sigh...

Path-Shaper, on 27 August 2013 - 08:31 PM, said:

Summary cycle 2:

Day phase, cycle 2:

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Bek Okhan invests 6 clubs, 5 Diamonds, 2 hearts, 5 spades into Mormon's House

Movement Phase 1, cycle 2:

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move to Mud Street

Night Phase:

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no actions

Movement Phase 1, cycle 2:

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no actions

Bek Okhan, on 27 August 2013 - 10:33 PM, said:

At night, move to Judge Wallace's office.

Tomorrow morning, provisionally reset the following dice (depending on NA and Investment results):

Bullets[2][1][1][1]

Clubs[6]
Diamonds[5]
Hearts[4][2]
Cheat[1]

I should be max bullets and max suits except Spades[0][0]

Path-Shaper, on 28 August 2013 - 06:33 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:28 PM, said:

I've Friendship'd Jalan for Hearts[2] and Hentos Ilm (Hearts[4][0][0] remaining, Bullets are free today).

Are either in my faction per Cult Chapel?

no


V

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:

OK, my current dice look something like this:

Clubs[6]
Diamonds[5]
Hearts[4][0][0]
Spades[0][0]
Cheat[1][1]

Can I use Cheat dice to add to a die for buying items or investment? Or is Cheat only for increase dice for Abilities and Wagers?

If I can use Cheat to buy items, Buy Insurance of the Faith for Hearts[4], Cheat[1].

If you can't use Cheat to buy items, Invest Hearts[4] into Judge Wallace's Office.

I reset Hearts[4][2][2] and Spades[3][2] with 5-Card Stud. I used Hearts[2] to befriend Merrid.

Can you tell me if Merrid is in my faction, per Cult Chapel's passive ability?


I should be down to

Clubs[0]
Diamonds[5]
Hearts[4][2][0]
Spades[3][2]
Cheat[1][1] if I could use it to buy items, Cheat[1][0] if I invested instead

If I'm Mayor, make Fanderay Judge.
If I'm Judge, lynch Cast, Liosan, Demelain.

Bek Okhan, on 30 August 2013 - 05:17 AM, said:

I don't know if I can buy stuff or not using Cheat dice, but it affects my actions.

In either event, I've already invested Hearts[4] into my current location (Judge Wallace's office).

For the rest of my Investment today, let's invest

Diamonds[5], Spades[3][2] into it as well. If I can NOT spend cheat to buy items, then invest another Hearts[4] for a total of Hearts[8].

At night, shoot Aparal Forge with Bullets[2].

[Bek Okhan]

Path-Shaper, on 30 August 2013 - 11:14 AM, said:

You are dead. Please do us a favor and post your PMs in SH - with Venge and Gnaw tied up by life and me answering about 60 PMs a day, we haven't had time for it.

Password for SH = war&peace

Bek Okhan, on 30 August 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

Clever girl...

Bek Okhan, on 03 September 2013 - 03:42 PM, said:

Man it sucks dying early in this game. It looked so promising. Still haven't visited spoilers. The pain is too recent.

Path-Shaper, on 04 September 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

Hehehehehe. Yeah, it's a pity, you were playing balls to the wall and were close to getting a leap on all others with all that off-thread info.

[Nimander Golit]

Nimander Golit, Role PM:

Path-Shaper, on 19 August 2013 - 01:55 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 20 August 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

He loves me! He really loves me!

Nimander Golit, on 20 August 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

Ok, I have read the explanation a half dozen times now, and I don't understand the idea of dividing my pips into die. I take the pips from each parameter (Physical, Magical, Mentail) and divide them into a large number or small number of die based on power vs number. But I don't see how this is actionable when it comes to...erm... "doing" something in game. Can you give me a basic example?

Nimander Golit, on 20 August 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

Never mind. I'm reading each part with a fine tooth comb, and therefore not scanning on to see what's coming. The explanation comes later.

Path-Shaper, on 20 August 2013 - 02:26 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 20 August 2013 - 02:15 PM, said:

When do you need my die by? I can probably pull it of by tomorrow night. I must to bed now, though.

Before your first post on the game thread is early enough.

Nimander Golit, on 20 August 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

Bullets 2,2
Aim 4,4
Dodge 4
Luck 2
Health, 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,6


Clubs 6
Diamonds 6,4
Hearts 1
Spades 5
Cheat 2

Sanity 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,6 (You didn't post strategy hint here, so if I'm pulling a bonehead let me know)
Pixie 4,2
Golddust 2,1
Speed ONE!

Attunement: If I can only use attunement per Suit and I must choose, then I want 4, 2. If attunement replenishes ALL suits then I want 6.

Nimander Golit, on 20 August 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

I'm going to bed. Let me know about my two questiosn there, and I"ll be posting on thread in the morning.

Path-Shaper, on 20 August 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 20 August 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

Ok, I have read the explanation a half dozen times now, and I don't understand the idea of dividing my pips into die. I take the pips from each parameter (Physical, Magical, Mentail) and divide them into a large number or small number of die based on power vs number. But I don't see how this is actionable when it comes to...erm... "doing" something in game. Can you give me a basic example?

Say you want to use Find Worshipper. For that, you need a Hearts [1] die. So if you had 10 bullets and 10 hearts [1] dice, you could do it ten times day 1.

Now, you have Overmind - sort of follow-up - but for that, you need a Diamonds [6] die.
Basically, assigning dice is about identifying (and later on paying) costs.

Elsewhere, you have Items that cost Diamonds [2] but also Diamonds [4].

So if you created 2x Diamonds [2] and 1x Diamonds [6], you would not be able to buy both an item of Diamonds [4] as well as use Overmind on the same day, as Overmind costs [6] and you'd need that then to pay for the [4]: you can't use the 2 [2]s for that.

Does that clarify a tiny bit?

[Nimander Golit]

Path-Shaper, on 20 August 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 20 August 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

Bullets 2,2
Aim 4,4
Dodge 4
Luck 2
Health, 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,6


Clubs 6
Diamonds 6,4
Hearts 1
Spades 5
Cheat 2

Sanity 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,6 (You didn't post strategy hint here, so if I'm pulling a bonehead let me know)
Pixie 4,2
Golddust 2,1
Speed ONE!

Attunement: If I can only use attunement per Suit and I must choose, then I want 4, 2. If attunement replenishes ALL suits then I want 6.

Attunement doesn't go per suit so much, as it is just 'nr of pips = dice reset' so 6 works.

Nimander Golit, on 21 August 2013 - 04:08 AM, said:

I forgot you need a location from me too.

Am I limited in where I may choose, because you say I can only move into places we control?

Nimander Golit, on 21 August 2013 - 04:12 AM, said:

I'm feeling pressure being this character since so many others wanted to have it as well. I divided my pips in a manner that I think will allow me to spend them in an appropriate manner, but I have little doubt I've overlooked a rule that's going to bite me in the ass down the line.


I don't know about you Tapper, but I can see this particular game becoming a staple of malazan mafia, being recycled with only a few modifications while players work out new strategies. I can't help but believe that there were be ways to exploit roles that will only come to light later, so this seems like a game that is playable again and again with new and interesting permutations happening each time.

Path-Shaper, on 21 August 2013 - 05:14 AM, said:

I hope it will be a staple :-) you are not limited in choosing your starting Location.

Path-Shaper, on 21 August 2013 - 06:58 AM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 21 August 2013 - 06:08 AM, said:

Hmm...do you really mean for this to be possible?

Aces and the South can lose one of their two possible VC's right at the very beginning of the game, if 4 people choose Rickety Shack as their starting location and then it is destroyed.

Makes me want to choose it, actually.

Yup.
If the Shack is destroyed when one of them owns it, they will keep ownership of it permanently - so there's an offset.

Nimander Golit, on 21 August 2013 - 07:39 AM, said:

Ahh,so they may already own it. I figured that was the case, but I was fishing for info.

I will choose the Judge's location to start, please.

[Nimander Golit]

Action thread:

Path-Shaper, on 23 August 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

Day phase, cycle 1.

Nimander creates Item Tactical Grid (6 clubs, 5 spades)
Nimander starts Overmind (6 Diamonds)
Nimander invests 4 Diamonds in my location.

Path-Shaper, on 23 August 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

All actions happen.
Overmind gives you Liosan.

Judge / Lynchee threads:

Nimander Golit, on 22 August 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:

I would like to make Grasp Judge if elected.

No particular reason.

Nimander Golit, on 27 August 2013 - 04:27 AM, said:

Day 2 Liosan

Nimander Golit, on 03 September 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

Day 4

Make Fandaray Judge

Nimander Golit, on 05 September 2013 - 11:37 PM, said:

Day 5

Make Fandaray Judge

Nimander Golit, on 10 September 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

Grasp as Judge.

(I know it's too late, but...rabu rabu?)

Nimander Golit, on 22 August 2013 - 07:16 AM, said:

Day 1

Lynch Grasp.

No particular reason.

Path-Shaper, on 28 August 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 27 August 2013 - 04:28 AM, said:

Day 2
Lynch Jalan

there should be two for the two lynche's.

V

Nimander Golit, on 03 September 2013 - 02:34 PM, said:

Day 4

Lynch Jalan

Path-Shaper, on 04 September 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

Your lynch choice is Jalan..give me a few to make sure everything lines up.

Nimander Golit, on 05 September 2013 - 11:36 PM, said:

Lynch Meanas

Nimander Golit, on 10 September 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

RABU RABU

Lynch Meanas