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#21 User is offline   Kanese S's 

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 09:47 AM

 Duikers, on 27 August 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

 End of Disc One, on 27 August 2013 - 02:04 PM, said:

I was in the same boat as you, obvakhi. Loved GotM and people overhyped DG for me. But I recommend pushing through and sticking with the series, because most of the books are fantastic.


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Posted 06 September 2013 - 09:54 AM

 zenMichael, on 28 August 2013 - 04:43 PM, said:

 obvakhi, on 27 August 2013 - 07:15 AM, said:

The only characters that I care about are the 2 Bridgeburners & Crokus/Apsalar, since they were in the first book.


I've never, ever, ever, ever understood this reasoning. "The only reason I care about anyone in book 2 is because they were in book 1." But ... they weren't in a book BEFORE that. Don't you at all trust the writer that made you care about those new characters in the last book to make you care about new new characters in this book? Sure, that doesn't ALWAYS happen (there are a LOT of characters in MBotF that I don't like, but ... there are a HELL OF A LOT of characters overall, so no biggie), but c'mon. A friend of mine read GotM & had the same reaction. I told him to skip DG, read MoI, then stop reading. That's what he did. He dug the two books. /shrug/ That's an odd form of insanity to me, but hey, to each their own.

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Yeah, I've never gotten that, either. Crokus and Apsalar were new characters one book ago, as were Kalam and Fiddler. And GotM is the shortest book, too. Duiker's fucking great.

Hell, some of my favorite characters don't even show up until the fourth book... or even the fifth or sixth.
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Posted 06 September 2013 - 09:58 AM

 obvakhi, on 31 August 2013 - 12:04 AM, said:

Ok I just finished the book. I'll take back what I said about Duiker at least... he was the most interesting(and sad) of the new characters, even though it took awhile. I enjoyed the ending, enough to keep me reading. Overall I still prefer GOTM... and I'm hoping MOI will live up to the hype more.


MoI is pretty great. Better than DG? I don't know, in my mind they're both incredible. It has more of the characters from GotM, though. Whiskeyjack, Anomander Rake, Quick Ben, Kruppe, etc. Plus a bunch of new ones, of course, of whom many totally kick ass. Read on, and post any questions or thoughts in the MoI subforum as you do (though be careful for spoilers).
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Posted 30 November 2013 - 05:05 AM

MoI has a scene that was so poignant, so awesome and so humbling that it brought tears to my eyes. It will do this to you as well.
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Posted 02 December 2013 - 05:16 PM

i loved every book just finished Blood & Bone in fact, onto FOD! But I think reading great series' such as this is as much about reading characters you don't like as the ones you do. You have to learn to hate or learn to love em! but I agree with many others, KEEP READING!! Crokus and Apsalar have a great story worthy of reading, Coltaine and Duiker are total Legends and I hope you will come to respect them. The book, as with the rest are all diamonds. Great story arcs await in each, some characters will appear, some will disappear for 4 books or more! But eventually, everybody turns up, whether in the main series or in ICE's. There are so many characters that they have to leave some at times and go elsewhere, do not dispair and please keep reading, thank us later haha ;-)
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Posted 09 December 2013 - 05:51 AM

 Fiddler, on 30 November 2013 - 05:05 AM, said:

MoI has a scene that was so poignant, so awesome and so humbling that it brought tears to my eyes. It will do this to you as well.

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 11:41 AM

 obvakhi, on 09 December 2013 - 05:51 AM, said:

 Fiddler, on 30 November 2013 - 05:05 AM, said:

MoI has a scene that was so poignant, so awesome and so humbling that it brought tears to my eyes. It will do this to you as well.

If you're talking about
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Posted 20 December 2013 - 12:52 PM

 obvakhi, on 27 August 2013 - 07:15 AM, said:

The only characters that I care about are the 2 Bridgeburners & Crokus/Apsalar, since they were in the first book.


If you don't like meeting new characters, I'm afraid this series will disappoint you.

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 07:00 AM

DG is the book I have the most reread (6 times so far in a 3 years span, to be compared with 'A little town in Germany' from K. Le Carre 4 times over a span of 40 years, and that because I read it first in french, then in german, then in english, and tried it in thai).

Every time I did read it I was facing with the discovery of a new thing! That book is full, you have epic, you have initiation to tribal warfare, you do have an interresting approach over the 7 cities culture (living in SEA I can understand where it came to the Author), you have a presentatin (succint and brief) of the importance of symbols for a whole civilisation ...

That book deal little with phylosophie (opposed to other book) and with epic as per say; but deal with all the others aspect of a civilisation.

It is layers over layers over layers over ....
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Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:12 AM

I can see where they are coming from because on first read I found myself skimming some parts of DG (on the re-read I hung on just about every word by comparison) - but as has been said, the pay-off from all plot lines is tremendous when you get there.
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Posted 22 July 2014 - 02:17 PM

To enjoy MBF, you need to just release your controll urges, and temper your curiosity, and just enjoy what you are reading at that time.
There are 10 books which make up an epic story, this story unfolds from the view of many different characters, and you are litterally thrown into a whirlwind of information, there is no use fighting it, just hang back and enjoy the ride.

I promise the end of this book is EPIC, the story itself was for me a tad slow, but man it was worth it.
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Posted 22 July 2014 - 07:28 PM

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