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Mafia 105: Ghoul Gulch - Game Thread Yes, the game thread.

#941 User is offline   Cast 

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:13 PM

View PostFanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 28 August 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 05:44 AM, said:

@ Grasp or Lock If either of you can prove to me that your lynch attempt on me was a misguded mistake and that you really don't know for sure if we are on the same team then start talking. Either brag or telegram or befriend me or whatever means you have at your disposal and start making your case as to why I shouldn't go all revenge killer on you two.


I didn't have a lynch attempt on you. From very early on in day 2 my lynch submission was Hanas and Bek, then Hanas and Demelain. I voted lock fairly early (page 17ish) with the understanding that he would be picking me as judge and those would be the lynches. Then I went to bed and came back later on to find that Lock had decided to pick Cast as judge in order to lynch you and Hentos, and I was actually rather miffed to have made a vote for Lock on grounds that were now being changed - see around page 19 or 20.

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It was my mistake. I was up late and had a brain fart. I meant Cast not Grasp. (see they rhyme).

@Cast the above quote referenced by Grasp was directed at you.


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Yeah go for me. I still don't care if they found you in a haystack full of holes

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:14 PM

View PostFanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 28 August 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

I think it's obvious who should be mayor.

Vote barghast

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Well then since you are not willing to play with me. Jalan I accept your conditions. If elected Judge I will lynch Liosan as well. Currently my canidates are Lock, Cast & Liosan for lynch canidates. I'm willing to swap either Lock or Cast for another target.

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Wah, wah, wah....


sniff sniff

Wah, wah, wah...

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:15 PM

View PostFanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 28 August 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

I think it's obvious who should be mayor.

Vote barghast

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Well then since you are not willing to play with me. Jalan I accept your conditions. If elected Judge I will lynch Liosan as well. Currently my canidates are Lock, Cast & Liosan for lynch canidates. I'm willing to swap either Lock or Cast for another target.

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I'm cool with that, so go ahead and vote me Mayor then! Someone has to get the ball rolling, and I can't confidence myself as I'm flat broke.



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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:16 PM

View PostMeanas, on 28 August 2013 - 01:54 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 28 August 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

Firstly, bolding. Make text sizes bigger instead perhaps.

Secondly, if we'd gone with my scheme in the first place we'd be avoiding all this revenge bitchiness. I propose myself for Mayor. I will tell no-one my Judge choice until after Day has ended. After Day ends, if the Judge has indicated they are willing for me to name them, I will do so. If not, I will not. If I'm lynched then it is up to Judge to out themselves if they so desire.

Plus side, no-one with a lynch defence knows to activate it if it needs activating. I may well be lynched myself. You all secretly have someone you want dead even if you can't draw a case against them, you may be my Judge and get your wish.

Down side, you may end up with someone who wants you dead as Judge. You won't have a firm knowledge of who is getting XP beyond me unless Judge is happy to be revealed.

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FUCK

THAT.

you are essentially suggesting we gamble with very bad odds.

This is a faction game. it's pretty damn obvious we want other people dead. The more info we gain, the better.

Your suggestion minimizes the info revealed on thread, by virtue of introducing inordinate amounts of randomness in the equation.

This isn't a constructive suggestion at all. It would be fine in a Day 1 scenario, but we are way past that. with 3 deaths at stake, you are asking for a hell of a lot here.

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I'm with Meanas on this one. I want whoever I elect mayor to state in advance who they are electing as Judge and that Judge to state who they are electing to lynch. Then if there is funny business then they aren't getting any repeat votes from me.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:16 PM

GRasps plan seems more logical and works with the thread, but Barghy's plan does kind of appeal, as it takes a lot of blame out of the equation, and should barghy or the judge (should he reveal himself) do something against the thread's will, it would give a clear target. Both have merit, and I need to think about what I'll do before I decide

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:18 PM

View PostJalan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:15 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 28 August 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

I think it's obvious who should be mayor.

Vote barghast

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Well then since you are not willing to play with me. Jalan I accept your conditions. If elected Judge I will lynch Liosan as well. Currently my canidates are Lock, Cast & Liosan for lynch canidates. I'm willing to swap either Lock or Cast for another target.

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I'm cool with that, so go ahead and vote me Mayor then! Someone has to get the ball rolling, and I can't confidence myself as I'm flat broke.



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As a follow up, I have just sent my message to PS saying that if I'm Mayor that you're my Judge, Fanderay.


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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:19 PM

View PostDenul, on 28 August 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

GRasps plan seems more logical and works with the thread, but Barghy's plan does kind of appeal, as it takes a lot of blame out of the equation, and should barghy or the judge (should he reveal himself) do something against the thread's will, it would give a clear target. Both have merit, and I need to think about what I'll do before I decide



"As usual, I'm just going to completely ignore Jalan's run for mayorship, cause I'm an asshole."


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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:22 PM

View PostDenul, on 28 August 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

GRasps plan seems more logical and works with the thread, but Barghy's plan does kind of appeal, as it takes a lot of blame out of the equation, and should barghy or the judge (should he reveal himself) do something against the thread's will, it would give a clear target. Both have merit, and I need to think about what I'll do before I decide


That only works if Barg says who the judge was on-thread though, and it seems to me that he is saying that he won't necessarily reveal that.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:24 PM

View PostUltama, on 28 August 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

Meanas said:

Liosan said:

Meanas said:

Liosan said:

I think it's obvious who should be mayor.

Vote barghast

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you do like to gamble, dont' ya?

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I think barghast is a very good bet. He obviously knows what's going on, and I trust him to sort out things like jalan and my conversation, come
To a reasonable conclusion and lynch the most dangerous folks on
Thread.

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yeah, 'cept he won't be lynching. You're relying on his ability to deduce who OTHER people want lynched.

That's a shit ton of blind faith you're showing there.

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I have no idea what faction Bargast is on, hell, it could be mine. We have no way of knowing if Barghast knows members of his faction, but if he does then they just got an easy 2 XP. Basically this method allows Barghast to do whatever, without consequences or the ability to establish a connection between Barghast and the elected judge. It's a smart play, if we can be convinced to go with it, but the above is a concern.



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That's why you go with my revenge senario. It's more honest.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:25 PM

View PostFanderay, on 27 August 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 27 August 2013 - 06:39 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 27 August 2013 - 06:35 PM, said:

looking in, what's going on?

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Nothing much. Lock got elected mayor (and the plan is Lock >> Cast >> Hentos Ilm+Fanderay). Now we're just waiting for PS to come back and resolve.

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Are you fucking serious!!!!

Cast are you lynching me? Is it too late to change your lynch candidates?

Can I ask why you elected for me to be lynched? You better damn well be sure I'm not on your team if you are else all you are doing is fucking yourself over.

I guess now I don't have to go back and find out about the multi lynch lovers.

Cock suckers




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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:25 PM

View PostFanderay, on 27 August 2013 - 08:12 PM, said:

So I have some targets for tomorrow. I can only assume Cast and Lock must know I'm not on their team else Cast wouldn't ahve voted to lynch me and Lock wouldn't have selected Cast as his judge. Plus whoever was early on the train to get Lock elected are my top canidates for a lynch. I will vote for who ever will elect me judge so I can get some revenge on people who tried to kill me.

Hentos as the other lynch canidate do you want to be mayor? I'd gladly vote you. Liosan, Hanas or Demelain I saw your names being bantered around yesterday as well so you can't feel all that safe. I'd consider any of the above for mayor.

To everyone else

Fuckin Cock suckers!

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:25 PM

View PostJalan, on 28 August 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on 28 August 2013 - 01:18 PM, said:

Morning, all

catching up

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Hey Meanas, you should friend me! I'd do it myself, but I'm broke.



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I'll friend you! Posted Image

Friendship Jalan

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:26 PM

View PostFanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 05:44 AM, said:

So I'm throwing this out there for those that are interested.

Especially since Lock is now throwing Hanas and Rashan under the bus.

I'm down for any of the following to be elected Mayor since they have at some point been near lynch meat.

Hentos Ilm, Rashan, Hanas, Demelain, Liosan or anyone else that was seriously up for lynch meat. Probably Hentos, Demelain or Liosan as they at least try and make some attempt to participate on thread. I will vote for whoever will elect me Judge and I will target one of either Lock or Grasp and I will leave the other two lynch targets to be decided by those that voted the mayor that elects me judge. The top two players selected by those on the mayor train will be included in the lynch.

Otherwise the tools that elected Lock will do so again and you will let yourself get lynched. Not sure if we can depend on some mysterious action saving our asses again.



@ Grasp or Lock If either of you can prove to me that your lynch attempt on me was a misguded mistake and that you really don't know for sure if we are on the same team then start talking. Either brag or telegram or befriend me or whatever means you have at your disposal and start making your case as to why I shouldn't go all revenge killer on you two.

@Jalan I'm not 100% against your desires I just think my chances are better with trying to get Liosan on my side as we are both clearly on the outs with the rest of the group.

Edit: Damn BUllets. People you need to put your bullets in all your posts. As annoying as it is it still is a source of information for the thread.

Edit: Edit: Is it still night or is it now considered day three?

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you, sniff sniff, voted for me...



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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:27 PM

View PostGrasp, on 28 August 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

View PostDenul, on 28 August 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

GRasps plan seems more logical and works with the thread, but Barghy's plan does kind of appeal, as it takes a lot of blame out of the equation, and should barghy or the judge (should he reveal himself) do something against the thread's will, it would give a clear target. Both have merit, and I need to think about what I'll do before I decide


That only works if Barg says who the judge was on-thread though, and it seems to me that he is saying that he won't necessarily reveal that.

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Depending on the Judge's opinion of the matter I may withhold, I may not. One thing will be for sure I'll have a lot more information about the Judge at my disposal that can be communicated by off-thread means, away from the PS limitations. Can you draw inferences from who I'm talking to? Yes. Can we cause a huge string-thread of PMs ensuring complete freedom from reveal limitations? Also yes. What I offer is cutting out the lying of the Judge having an influence on the election. The Judge is the pivotal link in seeing people dead. If they die as expected all well and good. If they don't you're left with a mess. I'm taking away the mess by cutting down the lies by half.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:27 PM

View PostCast, on 28 August 2013 - 03:25 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 27 August 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 27 August 2013 - 06:39 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 27 August 2013 - 06:35 PM, said:

looking in, what's going on?

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Nothing much. Lock got elected mayor (and the plan is Lock >> Cast >> Hentos Ilm+Fanderay). Now we're just waiting for PS to come back and resolve.

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Are you fucking serious!!!!

Cast are you lynching me? Is it too late to change your lynch candidates?

Can I ask why you elected for me to be lynched? You better damn well be sure I'm not on your team if you are else all you are doing is fucking yourself over.

I guess now I don't have to go back and find out about the multi lynch lovers.

Cock suckers






View PostCast, on 28 August 2013 - 03:25 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 27 August 2013 - 08:12 PM, said:

So I have some targets for tomorrow. I can only assume Cast and Lock must know I'm not on their team else Cast wouldn't ahve voted to lynch me and Lock wouldn't have selected Cast as his judge. Plus whoever was early on the train to get Lock elected are my top canidates for a lynch. I will vote for who ever will elect me judge so I can get some revenge on people who tried to kill me.

Hentos as the other lynch canidate do you want to be mayor? I'd gladly vote you. Liosan, Hanas or Demelain I saw your names being bantered around yesterday as well so you can't feel all that safe. I'd consider any of the above for mayor.

To everyone else

Fuckin Cock suckers!

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View PostCast, on 28 August 2013 - 03:26 PM, said:

View PostFanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 05:44 AM, said:

So I'm throwing this out there for those that are interested.

Especially since Lock is now throwing Hanas and Rashan under the bus.

I'm down for any of the following to be elected Mayor since they have at some point been near lynch meat.

Hentos Ilm, Rashan, Hanas, Demelain, Liosan or anyone else that was seriously up for lynch meat. Probably Hentos, Demelain or Liosan as they at least try and make some attempt to participate on thread. I will vote for whoever will elect me Judge and I will target one of either Lock or Grasp and I will leave the other two lynch targets to be decided by those that voted the mayor that elects me judge. The top two players selected by those on the mayor train will be included in the lynch.

Otherwise the tools that elected Lock will do so again and you will let yourself get lynched. Not sure if we can depend on some mysterious action saving our asses again.



@ Grasp or Lock If either of you can prove to me that your lynch attempt on me was a misguded mistake and that you really don't know for sure if we are on the same team then start talking. Either brag or telegram or befriend me or whatever means you have at your disposal and start making your case as to why I shouldn't go all revenge killer on you two.

@Jalan I'm not 100% against your desires I just think my chances are better with trying to get Liosan on my side as we are both clearly on the outs with the rest of the group.

Edit: Damn BUllets. People you need to put your bullets in all your posts. As annoying as it is it still is a source of information for the thread.

Edit: Edit: Is it still night or is it now considered day three?

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you, sniff sniff, voted for me...





Wow, three posts, not a single bullet update!


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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:27 PM

View PostFanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 28 August 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

Fanderay, I will vote you for Judge or Mayor as long as Jalan is lynched and Lock is spared (honoring our friendship of yesterday).

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Well I'm split between going after Lock and going after Cast. I'm still waiting for either one of them to "convince" me that I shouldn't.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:29 PM

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:29 PM

View PostFanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 03:24 PM, said:

View PostUltama, on 28 August 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

Meanas said:

Liosan said:

Meanas said:

Liosan said:

I think it's obvious who should be mayor.

Vote barghast

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you do like to gamble, dont' ya?

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I think barghast is a very good bet. He obviously knows what's going on, and I trust him to sort out things like jalan and my conversation, come
To a reasonable conclusion and lynch the most dangerous folks on
Thread.

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yeah, 'cept he won't be lynching. You're relying on his ability to deduce who OTHER people want lynched.

That's a shit ton of blind faith you're showing there.

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I have no idea what faction Bargast is on, hell, it could be mine. We have no way of knowing if Barghast knows members of his faction, but if he does then they just got an easy 2 XP. Basically this method allows Barghast to do whatever, without consequences or the ability to establish a connection between Barghast and the elected judge. It's a smart play, if we can be convinced to go with it, but the above is a concern.



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That's why you go with my revenge senario. It's more honest.

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It is also incrediably petty and based upon early day comments, when no-one knows who you are. You could be crippling your own team with your choices but they daren't speak up on thread.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:29 PM

View PostGrasp, on 28 August 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

Avoiding Bold is an easy fix - use coloured text, underline, italics, strikethrough, all caps, etc

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I am totally uninterested in more complicated rules.Posted Image

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:30 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 28 August 2013 - 02:26 PM, said:

View PostGrasp, on 28 August 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

Yeah, I'm not super big on the random idea with 3x lynches either.

I wonder if there'd be some way of the judge deciding to lynch only two targets today and then we do again tomorrow instead of 3 and 1. Probably not, tapper probably just considers only 2 choices submitted a bad submission and goes to the next person.

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I would consider it an impartial submission and resolve those 2, then move the remaining lynch to the next day's Judge.
I have little to win by making the lynch a game-ending mechanic, so like you guys, I am a tiny bit of a hostage of the situation.



Hell if you elect me Judge I'll just submit Liosan and either Lock or Cast and not even lynch a third person if it will get me elected Judge.

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