[Meanas]

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

Grasp, on 28 August 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

Denul, on 28 August 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

GRasps plan seems more logical and works with the thread, but Barghy's plan does kind of appeal, as it takes a lot of blame out of the equation, and should barghy or the judge (should he reveal himself) do something against the thread's will, it would give a clear target. Both have merit, and I need to think about what I'll do before I decide

That only works if Barg says who the judge was on-thread though, and it seems to me that he is saying that he won't necessarily reveal that.

[3]

Depending on the Judge's opinion of the matter I may withhold, I may not. One thing will be for sure I'll have a lot more information about the Judge at my disposal that can be communicated by off-thread means, away from the PS limitations. Can you draw inferences from who I'm talking to? Yes. Can we cause a huge string-thread of PMs ensuring complete freedom from reveal limitations? Also yes. What I offer is cutting out the lying of the Judge having an influence on the election. The Judge is the pivotal link in seeing people dead. If they die as expected all well and good. If they don't you're left with a mess. I'm taking away the mess by cutting down the lies by half.

[1]

you're also cutting down the amount of talk down. we're all aware people could be lying about their lynch choices. but some info on thread is better than no info on thread.

your approach suggests we don't talk, vote for you and wait for night.

[2]

[Jalan]

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 03:29 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 03:24 PM, said:

Ultama, on 28 August 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

Meanas said:

Liosan said:

Meanas said:

Liosan said:

I think it's obvious who should be mayor.

Vote barghast

Bullets(4)

you do like to gamble, dont' ya?

[2]

I think barghast is a very good bet. He obviously knows what's going on, and I trust him to sort out things like jalan and my conversation, come
To a reasonable conclusion and lynch the most dangerous folks on
Thread.

Bullets(4)

yeah, 'cept he won't be lynching. You're relying on his ability to deduce who OTHER people want lynched.

That's a shit ton of blind faith you're showing there.

[2]

I have no idea what faction Bargast is on, hell, it could be mine. We have no way of knowing if Barghast knows members of his faction, but if he does then they just got an easy 2 XP. Basically this method allows Barghast to do whatever, without consequences or the ability to establish a connection between Barghast and the elected judge. It's a smart play, if we can be convinced to go with it, but the above is a concern.



[3]

That's why you go with my revenge senario. It's more honest.

(3)

It is also incrediably petty and based upon early day comments, when no-one knows who you are. You could be crippling your own team with your choices but they daren't speak up on thread.

[1]

So instead we just shoot a gun into a dark room and hope none of our friends are in there? I think I'd prefer to go Fanderay's way, tyvm.


[0]

[Jalan]

Meanas, on 28 August 2013 - 03:30 PM, said:

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

Grasp, on 28 August 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

Denul, on 28 August 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

GRasps plan seems more logical and works with the thread, but Barghy's plan does kind of appeal, as it takes a lot of blame out of the equation, and should barghy or the judge (should he reveal himself) do something against the thread's will, it would give a clear target. Both have merit, and I need to think about what I'll do before I decide

That only works if Barg says who the judge was on-thread though, and it seems to me that he is saying that he won't necessarily reveal that.

[3]

Depending on the Judge's opinion of the matter I may withhold, I may not. One thing will be for sure I'll have a lot more information about the Judge at my disposal that can be communicated by off-thread means, away from the PS limitations. Can you draw inferences from who I'm talking to? Yes. Can we cause a huge string-thread of PMs ensuring complete freedom from reveal limitations? Also yes. What I offer is cutting out the lying of the Judge having an influence on the election. The Judge is the pivotal link in seeing people dead. If they die as expected all well and good. If they don't you're left with a mess. I'm taking away the mess by cutting down the lies by half.

[1]

you're also cutting down the amount of talk down. we're all aware people could be lying about their lynch choices. but some info on thread is better than no info on thread.

your approach suggests we don't talk, vote for you and wait for night.

[2]

Exactly the point I made earlier. This is Mafia, the point of the game is to talk shit through, and make inferences from the results of things. If everything is decided off thread, then we're basically killing the basic principle of Mafia.


[0]

[Bek Okhan]

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

Vote Barghast

I don't know who he will pick. I hope to God it is not me. I don't care who gets picked for Judge. 3 people will be lynched and they won't all be on the same faction.

(1)

This is just utterly reckless

[1]

[Barghast]

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

Exactly the point I made earlier. This is Mafia, the point of the game is to talk shit through, and make inferences from the results of things. If everything is decided off thread, then we're basically killing the basic principle of Mafia.


[0]

However, the only talk we are getting seems to be people complaining that someone else made some comment days ago or placed a vote. Since when has 'I once got voted for' been a power group in games?

[1]

[Fanderay]

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

Also, can someone please explain to me why everyone seems to be against actually voting me for Mayor? No one even responds to the sections of my posts regarding why I should be mayor, you all just pretty much ignore them. What's up with that?


[0]

I'm not 100% against you as mayor, it's just that I feel I could trust someone else that has been threatened with being lynched a little bit more. Camaraderie and all. But if it gets me what I want then I would be willing to vote you mayor.

(3)

[Jalan]

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

Also, can someone please explain to me why everyone seems to be against actually voting me for Mayor? No one even responds to the sections of my posts regarding why I should be mayor, you all just pretty much ignore them. What's up with that?


[0]

I'm not 100% against you as mayor, it's just that I feel I could trust someone else that has been threatened with being lynched a little bit more. Camaraderie and all. But if it gets me what I want then I would be willing to vote you mayor.

(3)

Well, as I said, I've already sent my Judge choice in as you. You have Liosan on your lynch list, and that's my big target. Your other two targets don't really matter to me. They could be members of my team, but odds are better that they aren't.



[0]

[Meanas]

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

Exactly the point I made earlier. This is Mafia, the point of the game is to talk shit through, and make inferences from the results of things. If everything is decided off thread, then we're basically killing the basic principle of Mafia.


[0]

However, the only talk we are getting seems to be people complaining that someone else made some comment days ago or placed a vote. Since when has 'I once got voted for' been a power group in games?

[1]

No, that's all YOU pretend to hear. It's pretty obvious to me that Lio and jalan have a hardon for each other (for reasons otther than voting), Demelain wants Merrid lynched (again, nothing to do with voting), etc.

yes, whining is distracting. doesn't mean it's the only thing here.

[2]

[Merrid]

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

Vote Barghast

I don't know who he will pick. I hope to God it is not me. I don't care who gets picked for Judge. 3 people will be lynched and they won't all be on the same faction.

(1)

This is just utterly reckless

[1]

I doubt it. Cast and Barghy currently have a Friendship comms together. The two have therefore probably cooked up something, and that's why Cast is so ready to sling his vote that way.

[4]

[Jalan]

Barghast, on 28 August 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

Exactly the point I made earlier. This is Mafia, the point of the game is to talk shit through, and make inferences from the results of things. If everything is decided off thread, then we're basically killing the basic principle of Mafia.


[0]

However, the only talk we are getting seems to be people complaining that someone else made some comment days ago or placed a vote. Since when has 'I once got voted for' been a power group in games?

[1]

Yeah, but if we do it your way, we will have no information post-lynch about who could potentially be the one who got rid of whoever gets lynched.

The way we play Mafia is by analyzing vote trains, and in this type of game, we have to analyze who wanted who lynched, and who was willing to lynch who if made judge. Granted the Judge can still lie on thread, but that would at least give us something to work from, rather than the complete lack of any information that you're trying to work with.



[0]

[Grasp]

Alright, well since my system proposal doesn't seem to be favoured, maybe it's time to add another judge/mayor proposal.

I propose myself as Judge, and I will lynch Hanas, Rashan and Hentos Ilm, the three that I think have contributed the least to the game thread so far. I really like the activity we're getting on-thread and don't want to make future days boring, and I think these 3 are probably the ones who will be missed the least.

[3]

[Cast]

Grasp, on 28 August 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Alright, well since my system proposal doesn't seem to be favoured, maybe it's time to add another judge/mayor proposal.

I propose myself as Judge, and I will lynch Hanas, Rashan and Hentos Ilm, the three that I think have contributed the least to the game thread so far. I really like the activity we're getting on-thread and don't want to make future days boring, and I think these 3 are probably the ones who will be missed the least.

[3]

I am not against this.

(1)

[Jalan]

Grasp, on 28 August 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Alright, well since my system proposal doesn't seem to be favoured, maybe it's time to add another judge/mayor proposal.

I propose myself as Judge, and I will lynch Hanas, Rashan and Hentos Ilm, the three that I think have contributed the least to the game thread so far. I really like the activity we're getting on-thread and don't want to make future days boring, and I think these 3 are probably the ones who will be missed the least.

[3]

I'd much rather see someone active lynched, because then we can start making connections based on their interactions with others on thread. I understand the 'low poster' lynch thing, it's a constant in Mafia, but I think it would be more fruitful to lynch someone we can make connections to.



[0]

[Meanas]

Merrid, on 28 August 2013 - 03:38 PM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

Cast, on 28 August 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

Vote Barghast

I don't know who he will pick. I hope to God it is not me. I don't care who gets picked for Judge. 3 people will be lynched and they won't all be on the same faction.

(1)

This is just utterly reckless

[1]

I doubt it. Cast and Barghy currently have a Friendship comms together. The two have therefore probably cooked up something, and that's why Cast is so ready to sling his vote that way.

[4]

would explain why Cast's "would-be-lynches-but-please-don't-make-me-a-judge-honestly-I-don't-wanna-be-one-no-really" includes everyone that's been really vocal against the "vote Bargy"

[2]

[Meanas]

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

Grasp, on 28 August 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Alright, well since my system proposal doesn't seem to be favoured, maybe it's time to add another judge/mayor proposal.

I propose myself as Judge, and I will lynch Hanas, Rashan and Hentos Ilm, the three that I think have contributed the least to the game thread so far. I really like the activity we're getting on-thread and don't want to make future days boring, and I think these 3 are probably the ones who will be missed the least.

[3]

I'd much rather see someone active lynched, because then we can start making connections based on their interactions with others on thread. I understand the 'low poster' lynch thing, it's a constant in Mafia, but I think it would be more fruitful to lynch someone we can make connections to.



[0]

read: "I'd rather you lynch Liosan",

[2]

[Fanderay]

Rashan, on 28 August 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

Also, can someone please explain to me why everyone seems to be against actually voting me for Mayor? No one even responds to the sections of my posts regarding why I should be mayor, you all just pretty much ignore them. What's up with that?


[0]

it's because you joined Barghy and spoke out against me

I'm well loved by everyone else of course

[3]

A Rashan Siting

OMG!!!!

Will you support my case as you are being thrown around as a lynch canidate?

(3)

[Bek Okhan]

Grasp, on 28 August 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Alright, well since my system proposal doesn't seem to be favoured, maybe it's time to add another judge/mayor proposal.

I propose myself as Judge, and I will lynch Hanas, Rashan and Hentos Ilm, the three that I think have contributed the least to the game thread so far. I really like the activity we're getting on-thread and don't want to make future days boring, and I think these 3 are probably the ones who will be missed the least.

[3]

I'm tentatively OK with this plan, but I also kind of like Jalan's plan. Why should I pick this one?

[1]

[Jalan]

Fanderay, on 28 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

Rashan, on 28 August 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

Also, can someone please explain to me why everyone seems to be against actually voting me for Mayor? No one even responds to the sections of my posts regarding why I should be mayor, you all just pretty much ignore them. What's up with that?


[0]

it's because you joined Barghy and spoke out against me

I'm well loved by everyone else of course

[3]

A Rashan Siting

OMG!!!!

Will you support my case as you are being thrown around as a lynch canidate?

(3)

If Rashan were to vote me as Mayor and thus getting Fanderay as Judge, then he'd be safe. But he thinks that I'm working against him, so that might be hard to do.


[0]

[Fanderay]

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

Meanas, on 28 August 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

Also, can someone please explain to me why everyone seems to be against actually voting me for Mayor? No one even responds to the sections of my posts regarding why I should be mayor, you all just pretty much ignore them. What's up with that?


[0]

you're being very anti-Lio.

I'm unsure as of yet what I think of him.

hence my hesitation.

[2]

What, after the shit he pulled yesterday, I don't have reason to be anti-Lio? You'll notice I started the day with 0 bullets on my public die.


I chose a target on Day 1, I stuck to it. I'm not into spouting shit all over the thread. Until my target is dead, I'm gonna stick to him like a fat kid on a smartie. Once he's dead, I'll move on.



[0]

Revenge!!!!

I'm seriously leaning towards you as mayor more and more.

(3)

[Jalan]

Meanas, on 28 August 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

Jalan, on 28 August 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

Grasp, on 28 August 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Alright, well since my system proposal doesn't seem to be favoured, maybe it's time to add another judge/mayor proposal.

I propose myself as Judge, and I will lynch Hanas, Rashan and Hentos Ilm, the three that I think have contributed the least to the game thread so far. I really like the activity we're getting on-thread and don't want to make future days boring, and I think these 3 are probably the ones who will be missed the least.

[3]

I'd much rather see someone active lynched, because then we can start making connections based on their interactions with others on thread. I understand the 'low poster' lynch thing, it's a constant in Mafia, but I think it would be more fruitful to lynch someone we can make connections to.



[0]

read: "I'd rather you lynch Liosan",

[2]

Well yes, but aside from Liosan, Cast and Lock are two active players I feel we could make some interesting connections to, and those are Fanderay's current 2nd and 3rd targets. Even if I don't get elected Mayor, I don't think Judge should be someone who is just gonna lynch low-posters that give us no information.


[0]