[Alkend]

a train has built up rather quickly
interesting
i am surprised to see that people construe my telling people that putting pressure on people for not posting when its less than halfway through day one is silly is "bad play"

[Rashan]

Alkend, on 31 July 2013 - 02:29 PM, said:

i am surprised to see that people construe my telling people that putting pressure on people for not posting when its less than halfway through day one is silly is "bad play"

Unfortunately, true.

[Rashan]

Jalan, on 31 July 2013 - 02:29 PM, said:

and so today is yesterday, as yesterday was today


Go do some physical labor, Rashan, it will help you sleep to get tired

I had a fist fight this morning because I was tired and pissed. Don't think it's prudent to go out right now.

[Barghast]

Rashan, on 31 July 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

Kalse, on 31 July 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

See Rashan, you have a big black hole in your picture, now pic a phallic shape from my avatar, (head, tail, foot, finger, spike, at a stretch elbow), and use that to pleasure your deep darkness.

Ooooooooh. Kinky.
Can I use a knee to pleasure the emptiness inside me? Can I use your nose (err, or whatever that's called on dragons.)?
I really wanna have your knee inside that hole, that tasty, probably not so wet, dark hole.

the word you're looking for is "snout"

[Rashan]

Barghast, on 31 July 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

Rashan, on 31 July 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

Kalse, on 31 July 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

See Rashan, you have a big black hole in your picture, now pic a phallic shape from my avatar, (head, tail, foot, finger, spike, at a stretch elbow), and use that to pleasure your deep darkness.

Ooooooooh. Kinky.
Can I use a knee to pleasure the emptiness inside me? Can I use your nose (err, or whatever that's called on dragons.)?
I really wanna have your knee inside that hole, that tasty, probably not so wet, dark hole.

the word you're looking for is "snout"

I want that snout in my darkness!

[Rashan]

Actually, now that I'm looking into my avatar carefully, I notice that there is an eye in the middle.

I want that snout in my eye!

[Rashan]

Barghast, on 31 July 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

Rashan, on 31 July 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

Kalse, on 31 July 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

See Rashan, you have a big black hole in your picture, now pic a phallic shape from my avatar, (head, tail, foot, finger, spike, at a stretch elbow), and use that to pleasure your deep darkness.

Ooooooooh. Kinky.
Can I use a knee to pleasure the emptiness inside me? Can I use your nose (err, or whatever that's called on dragons.)?
I really wanna have your knee inside that hole, that tasty, probably not so wet, dark hole.

the word you're looking for is "snout"

Secksy tentacles. I have an itch somewhere really private. Can you scratch it for me?

[Barghast]

you are misinterpreting my avatar (tbh, I'm not sure what a foresty swamp has to do with the Barghast, but w/e)

[Rashan]

Barghast, on 31 July 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

you are misinterpreting my avatar (tbh, I'm not sure what a foresty swamp has to do with the Barghast, but w/e)

Tentacles, branches, what's the difference? Both can reach that itch I have in my naughty place.

[Alkend]

Kalse, on 31 July 2013 - 10:14 AM, said:

It's not that he just defends a couple of people, maybe I should have expanded. Look at his posts and what they do to the thread. Firstly Barghast and Jalan talking, this is their latest post, then Alkend pops up, he would welcome us discussing roles from town side because "no one should slip up". The last sentence is what stands out, "don't be a kill joy Barghy", telling someone not to do something, he does the same with Liosan, "you are being aggressive" another way of telling someone not to play a certain way. Yet confrontation gives us answers.

Alkend, on 29 July 2013 - 08:40 PM, said:

woah now
lets not go that far
...
super seriously tho role speculation is an inherent part of any game over tmdi 2, especially one that has some kind of pseudo-faction mechanic that might affect gameplay
nobody is going to slip up and accidentally reveal healer or finder or something
i cant think of a single game where town have lost because of mechanics debate on day one
tldr dont be a killjoy barghy

Then here, Barghast says we should just vote off a low poster

Alkend, on 29 July 2013 - 08:52 PM, said:

Barghast, on 29 July 2013 - 08:49 PM, said:

Fener's not playing. SO much for that,

I'll need to look who has the least posts atm.

when we are only ten hours into day one?

Alkend rubbishes this idea. Again instead of wanting to pressure people into posting he wants to give people a by.

Liosan, on 29 July 2013 - 11:14 PM, said:

Hmmm yep Hanas does more than do a drive by post. So much for that one odd post feeling I was getting. Maybe we should do a pressure vote on say Trake. Well I'm probably off for a while now.

Whereas Liosan thinks it a good idea and selects Trake as a potential target.

Alkend, on 29 July 2013 - 11:28 PM, said:

Liosan, on 29 July 2013 - 11:14 PM, said:

Hmmm yep Hanas does more than do a drive by post. So much for that one odd post feeling I was getting. Maybe we should do a pressure vote on say Trake. Well I'm probably off for a while now.

you are bizarrely aggressive
cant say i am a fan

This is what irks me. How is Liosan picking a low poster to vote for aggressive. Desra is the one who can be construed as aggressive. It's just a weird post.

Kalse, on 31 July 2013 - 10:20 AM, said:

Korbas then points a finger at D'riss. Who is first to comment and rubbish yet another way forward for town/lynch?

Alkend, on 30 July 2013 - 12:31 AM, said:

in drisss defence the previous warring states had recruiting so i can understand the thought process
but the tmdi and setup here doesnt seem high enough imo

Alkend. Slowing the talk, rather than agree and point a finger at D'riss or say nothing and let D'riss respond he decides to jump on and nip that avenue in the bud.

Next Okaros makes a case sorta..
[removed for brevity and posting]

So Desra, Alkend and Liosan fingered by Okaros. Next post is Okaros and does he comment on Desra at all? Does he put a flame to the tinders that Okaros is laying? Or again does he slow the thread, break up the discussion and give us another dead end?

Alkend, on 30 July 2013 - 01:00 AM, said:

@Okaros the castles belong to different clans
"laying siege to the one remaining stronghold of the Miura, and one of the outer castles of the Uesugi clan in order to increase their influence in the Kanto region" from the opening
castles/clans/factions are all synonyms

Vote Alkend

Possible scum, possible symp or bad town. I don't see him as a contributor.

@ post one:
there is no point pressuring people who havent looked at the thread less than 12 hours in
when we are all in various different timezones it is far more likely that somebody is asleep than they are lurking
i am not saying it is bad persay
my point is that it doesnt accomplish anything meaningful
the reason i am calling it aggressive is because given how day one works with the first excuse for a lynch people generally roll with it
i would gesture to myself but at least theres something with the semblance of a case going on here

@post two:
i dont have much to say about this
attempting to clear up what to me seem like bad interpretations of the OP isnt scummy
you can feel free to discuss if there is a recruiting mechanic despite the fact the op basically mentions this is killers vs town
and you can feel free to debate whether the castles are the same as clans when the op actually states they are

by all means push a lynch if we have nothing to go on
i will and have actually offered the best defence i can against anything resembling a case
but your second post is just you looking for an excuse to vote me
posts modified to fit

[Desra]

I find it kind of suspect that the Alkend train built so quickly. I realize that we were basically doing Day 1 part 2, but there's no reason to speed lynch the guy. I'm quite weary of the fuckheads that are just drive by voting with "Well, this seems like a good enough vote for today, so I'm gonna vote for Alkend"

I'll drop my vote there if that's where it seems to be going, but it would be fun to actually have some discussion, as opposed to Rashy's disturbing attempt at dragonsecks. I'm both glad and sad that Tiamatha isn't in this game. I kind of miss the Rashy and Tiamy show.

[Kalse]

If you see something better post it. Yet it looks as though we are coming down to around 12 hours left in the day, with no other options on the table, not much to read up on. I understand the lynch slowing down, I understand if it moves elsewhere for something better, I don't see a speed lynch though. Maybe better contribution from players would be welcome but the votes have spanned most of the day so far.

[Kalse]

Just checked, around 15 hours left in the day.

[Anthras]

Barghast, on 31 July 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

you are misinterpreting my avatar (tbh, I'm not sure what a foresty swamp has to do with the Barghast, but w/e)

In MoI, QB gets pulled into the barghast barrow and its an ancient swampland.

[Liosan]

Alkend, on 30 July 2013 - 10:24 PM, said:

Tellan, on 30 July 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

That's nice! No kills, but now were literally just redoing day 1

interesting that nobody died
i hesitate to draw conclusions but that leads me to wonder if the killers only being able to kill people in certain factions may be correct
in any case that line of mechanics discussion will become a slippery speculation road so i shall say no more.

Have you even heard of Healers? Seriously people why are we making this more difficult than it needs to be? If anything no night deaths reinforces the shared kill theory that I'm leaning towards and the night target was healed so that was why no one died.

[Liosan]

Tellan, on 30 July 2013 - 10:26 PM, said:

This lends credence (imo) to the killers can only kill people in the castle they're besieging... Makes it better for us!

See my above comment

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 14 hours and 54 minutes remaining

19 Players still alive: Alkend, Anthras, Barghast, Cast, D'riss, Desra, Eloth, Gait, Galain, Hanas, Jalan, Kalse, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Okaros, Rashan, Tellan, Trake

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Liosan ( Alkend )
7 Votes for Alkend ( Okaros, Mockra, Gait, Kalse, Galain, Trake, Anthras )

Players not voted: Barghast, Cast, D'riss, Desra, Eloth, Hanas, Jalan, Korbas, Liosan, Rashan, Tellan

[Liosan]

Korbas, on 31 July 2013 - 12:04 AM, said:

Well, the no-lynch was disappointing, but the no night kills is interesting. I agree, trying to figure out why scum haven't killed anyone is not particularly helpful.

On the other hand, this kind of thinking is equally unhelpful:

Galain, on 30 July 2013 - 10:43 PM, said:

So, with no mechanic discussion, what exactly does that leave us with Alkend?

We're back to symping and signalling. Shit.

There are a number of cases that have been made, as well defences to those cases. There are a number of places to start.

Why do you think it's interesting? Wondering why your kill didn't go through?

[Liosan]

Mockra, on 31 July 2013 - 04:46 AM, said:

Ok. We fail to secure a lynch. No one dies in the night. I tend to understand, at least somewhat, how we failed to rally enough votes in time to get a lynch due to the unusual start and end times of day 1. I think many players are use to having more time into Tuesday once the game starts. Canada and the U.S. are use to having nearly all of Tuesday, even.

We will just have to hope day 1 wasn't indicative of how the rest of the days will go, especially after having just endured watching the entire last week of Mafia 103.

The lack of any deaths during the night is something quite different though, indeed. I see a couple theories as to why there were no deaths at night, and at this point in the game there's no telling, but I was thinking it may have been something as simple or stupid as someone not getting their NA in on time, or just not getting back online in time. We really have no idea, especially lacking the usual day 1 information gleaned from a lynch.

The only real information that I feel even slightly credible is the possibility that there may have been resistance to the Alkend lynch. I'm guilty of not getting a vote in on Alkend in time myself, so I can't really point fingers, but I can attempt to remedy the situation. I'm going with an Alkend vote for now. I'll change as needed depending on new information throughout the rest of the day.

VOTE ALKEND

Ah, PS basically stated that all actions were submitted so this is just wrong.

[Tellan]

Liosan, on 31 July 2013 - 03:14 PM, said:

Tellan, on 30 July 2013 - 10:26 PM, said:

This lends credence (imo) to the killers can only kill people in the castle they're besieging... Makes it better for us!

See my above comment

Your idea makes sense, only reason I can't fully believe it is Shin saying this game is "not quite your usual setup". But your idea is the simplest, so probably true.