[Korabas]

Alkend, on 04 March 2014 - 02:55 PM, said:

Korabas, on 04 March 2014 - 02:04 PM, said:

I think in terms of my posting I have been fairly consistent throughout. The only time I was quiet was from Friday night through to Monday morning when a lynch was attempted against me. Otherwise you have had plenty of my time and effort.

Yes. That's what has me suspecting somethings up. You have been a major contributor. in your silence I expected something convincing to happen after your CF, the huge lack of nothing is what I am drawing attention to. Not debating that you have been a contributor, I'm looking at how you have contributed. Its an odd lul for such a consistent contributor, particularly after that gap when you were I assume away on RL business of some sort. Not checking a thread for that long that close to a timeout always sounds farfetched even when its legitimate and quite honest.

Anyways the train on Tiam has picked up some steam. A train and possible CF on Tiam will lead to just as much knowledge as a train on you. Happy to vote either way.

I am always quiet during the weekend. I have a lot to get done over that period of time. I do not have time for mafia over the weekend. So even if the train was on someone else I still wouldn't have commented.

[Denul]

Path-Shaper, on 04 March 2014 - 02:14 PM, said:

It is now Day 3. 15 hours 20 minutes remainig.

11 players alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Tiamatha

6 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.

2 votes Korabas: Kessobahn, Galayn Lord
1 vote Galayn Lord: Denul
3 votes Tiamatha: Korabas, Eloth, Alkend
1 vote Denul: Monok Ochem


Players not voted: Bek Okhan, Iparth Erule, Lock, Tiamatha

Here more awesome contribution from your favorite Jester.

Knock Knock

Who's There

Orange

Orange who

Orange you going to open the door

2 votes for Korabas
3 for Tiamatha

3>2

Remove Vote

Vote Tiamatha

[Path-Shaper]

It is now Day 3. 13 hours 1 minute remainig.

11 players alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Tiamatha

6 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.

2 votes Korabas: Kessobahn, Galayn Lord
4 votes Tiamatha: Korabas, Eloth, Alkend, Denul
1 vote Denul: Monok Ochem


Players not voted: Bek Okhan, Iparth Erule, Lock, Tiamatha

[Galayn Lord]

Denul, on 03 March 2014 - 05:12 PM, said:

I'm okay with lynching me. I lied about being a finder anyway as the other Jester would have known. I was seeing who would vote for who anyway. And I am not helping in the least. I wasn't even able to help get a lynch vote in.

Tiamatha, on 28 February 2014 - 01:49 PM, said:

Korabas, on 28 February 2014 - 11:27 AM, said:

I had to go back and check at what point Denul voted for Galayn lord. I was thinking that they voted them after being killed at night, therefore not being able to perform an action.

Path-Shaper, on 26 February 2014 - 02:12 PM, said:

Day 1 timed out without a lynch.

Path-Shaper, on 26 February 2014 - 02:17 PM, said:

Scratch that, I missed an Action...


Time has been moved back.


It is now Day 1. 5 hours 2 minutes remaining.

13 players alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha

7 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

2 votes Rikkter: Korabas, Iparth Erule


Players not voted: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Kessobahn, Galayn Lord, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha

Path-Shaper, on 26 February 2014 - 06:11 PM, said:

It is now Day 1. 1 hours 5 minutes remaining.

13 players alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha

7 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

7 votes Rikkter: Korabas, Iparth Erule, Denul, Tiamatha, Rikkter, Alkend, Lock
1 vote Galayn Lord: Rikkter


Players not voted: Bek Okhan, Eloth, Kessobahn, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom



Rikkter has been lynched. He was Prince Domingo.


Give me a little bit to resolve Night.

Path-Shaper, on 26 February 2014 - 06:26 PM, said:

Denul has been killed. He was Tertian, the Jester.

It is now Day 2. 36 hours remaining.

11 players alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Tiamatha

6 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Tiamatha

Path-Shaper, on 26 February 2014 - 09:04 PM, said:

Time has been moved back.


It is now Day 1. 2 hours 5 minutes remaining.

13 players alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha

7 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

5 votes Rikkter: Korabas, Iparth Erule, Denul, Tiamatha, Galayn Lord


Players not voted: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Eloth, Kessobahn, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter

Path-Shaper, on 26 February 2014 - 11:16 PM, said:

Rikkter has been lynched. He was Domingo.

Will do Night resolution once I get home!

Path-Shaper, on 27 February 2014 - 12:19 AM, said:

Eloth has been killed. She was Lady Ete.

It is now Day 2. 36 hours remaining.

11 players alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Tiamatha

6 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Tiamatha

Denul, on 27 February 2014 - 03:40 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on 27 February 2014 - 12:40 AM, said:

Bek Okhan, on 27 February 2014 - 12:37 AM, said:

I guess Tertian wasn't good enough.

I was just about to say the same thing.

Well then We should lynch Galayn Lord. He's a big fish.

Vote Galayn Lord

Turns out it was after the second lynch of Domingo. He could have searched for him before time was sent back the first time and received a result from PS, before PS spotted his mistake of not taking time back as per a TL action.

More than likely it was after the first proper lynch of Domingo where Eloth was killed. I don't know what to make of it though.

How sure is Denul about Galayn Lord being on an opposite team and how are we supposed to know which team that is?

We already know Denul's CF, so we know we are not taking out anyone high up in our faction if we lynch him. We do not know if Denul is original Tertian or Doppelganger Tertian so that should not matter.

Vote Denul

vote korabas

I think the chances are higher that Denul is on my team, than korabas. Denul is also trying harder than many of the other posters who aren't doing shit.

Plus, the reason for you voting for Denul is shit, which makes me think you aren't on his team, and know so, therefore I'll take my chances with you over him.

Denul, on 04 March 2014 - 03:50 PM, said:

Here more awesome contribution from your favorite Jester.

Knock Knock

Who's There

Orange

Orange who

Orange you going to open the door

2 votes for Korabas
3 for Tiamatha

3>2

Remove Vote

Vote Tiamatha

Ok just for starters, these quotes don't line up to me. Denul doesn't care about being lynched; his votes seem to be random because he plays like he doesn't care about the game. Tiam basically claims Denul as part of the same faction (Alkend and Korabas both picked up on this as well), and now Denul is voting Tiam.

What gives?

Also, if we are trying to get information from Tiam, we probably shouldn't hammer till she returns. She's at L-2 now I believe. But if we want anymore cryptic half-truths like everyone's been saying, let's give the lynch a little time. Because all of this is making me think harder than I should have to, for right now I'm going to

Remove Vote

I do want to hear more from Tiam before voting, I think that's going to be important.

[Galayn Lord]

Also, Kesso, what say you about Korabas after the recent turn of events here and the lynch swing?

[Galayn Lord]

Monok Ochem, on 04 March 2014 - 02:10 PM, said:

Eloth, on 04 March 2014 - 01:56 AM, said:

The problem I have with Tiam's info is that it came from Domingo. Do we have any indication that any of the information is accurate? How do we know that Domingo didn't make it all up for shits and giggles?

For that matter, how the hell did Domingo know?

This is a good question.
To pose an alternative for the mimic debate - what if Mimic is what makes dopplegangers CF as Originals? It poses a nice strategic question: bring back the guy and lynch him again for certainty about alignment for all but the opposing number, or keep him dead under the main title and fuck with all heads except for the opposing party. It would be interesting fishing on thread by Denul, using a known ability to his team to out the opposing team.

The testing of this theory is also very easy. Down with Denul.



Vote Denul

First, CFs don't give any info on Doppelgangers or Originals at all. So what the fuck are you talking about?

Second, we've got multiple people supporting the idea that Denul is Tertian and lynching him would activate a suicide vig. That's probably seriously bad for both factions, as he doesn't seem to care about the game and may vig at random or God knows what. So why vote Denul at this point after he already lied about being a finder and admitted it? Right now the only weight he pulls is his vote, if he is Tertian. Danger outweighs lynching him atm imo, and we will not get the explicit faction information you're thinking we will.

[Path-Shaper]

It is now Day 3. 11 hours 50 minute remainig.

11 players alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Tiamatha

6 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.

1 vote Korabas: Kessobahn
4 votes Tiamatha: Korabas, Eloth, Alkend, Denul
1 vote Denul: Monok Ochem


Players not voted: Bek Okhan, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Lock, Tiamatha

[Kessobahn]

Galayn Lord, on 04 March 2014 - 04:57 PM, said:

Also, Kesso, what say you about Korabas after the recent turn of events here and the lynch swing?

Alkend swung the vote, though his reasoning makes little sense to me. It seems to be, "I don't like you, Korabas, and I don't trust you, and I want to see you lynched. But now that you've posted one post against me, I shall vote the way you want me to vote."


Whatever, though. I said either Korabas or Tiam at the beginning of the day, I want to see the game moving again, so if consensus forms around Tiam instead of Korabas, I will roll with that. I'm off again now for a few hours, but will check in again before day's end.

[Galayn Lord]

Alkend, on 04 March 2014 - 01:07 PM, said:

Korabas, on 04 March 2014 - 11:25 AM, said:

Denul, on 24 February 2014 - 04:40 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 24 February 2014 - 02:38 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 24 February 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 24 February 2014 - 02:20 PM, said:

Firstly, second.

Path-Shaper, on 24 February 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

Players not voted: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha

Monok Ochem, on 24 February 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

Good afternoon. Like a true primate, I'm first.

Secondly, you're not playing according to PS.

Therefore...

First!

Not my problem five of my alts weren't listed in the OP.

Now you've said that you know what needs to be done.

Vote Tiam

This vote is totally random including a bunch of gibberish as it makes you look like you could be signalling you aren't Wha'ts his name that started this whole mess to begin with. Sounds like he should be a priority for the group and then lets move on to figuring out wholes an original and who's a copy.

This post from Denul points at Rikkter being Domingo.

It also is a defense of Tiam. This is early day one, no night actions, no finds, nothing.

So it is obvious that these two players are connected.

Now Tiam wants to take Rikkter at his word about Tertian. Well if that is the case, something Rikkter said may have made Tiam trust him. Look at this post by Rikkter below,

Rikkter, on 24 February 2014 - 05:17 PM, said:

Denul, on 24 February 2014 - 04:40 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 24 February 2014 - 02:38 PM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 24 February 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 24 February 2014 - 02:20 PM, said:

Firstly, second.

Path-Shaper, on 24 February 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

Players not voted: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha

Monok Ochem, on 24 February 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

Good afternoon. Like a true primate, I'm first.

Secondly, you're not playing according to PS.

Therefore...

First!

Not my problem five of my alts weren't listed in the OP.

Now you've said that you know what needs to be done.

Vote Tiam

This vote is totally random including a bunch of gibberish as it makes you look like you could be signalling you aren't Wha'ts his name that started this whole mess to begin with. Sounds like he should be a priority for the group and then lets move on to figuring out wholes an original and who's a copy.

Erm nope, not totally random.

MO indicated he has multiple alts. The last time we had multiple alts was when Tiam and Rashan sung duets on thread. Tiam is playing, logically I voted for Tiam.

Day 1 joke vote. Christ, get a sense of humour.



Since you want to be serious, lets be serious.

We have 2 factions composed of identical numbers and characters. Epoch and Millenio being removed means we have two each of:
-King Sunday
-Queen Wednesday
-Lady Ete
-Mister Monday
-Sir Thursday
-Tertian

Based on previous games it is likely
-King Sunday has the ability to Time Shift (Epoch being the only other potential candidate for this)
-Mister Monday is a Guard
-Sir Thursday is a Vig
-Queen Weds or Lady Ete has a lover convo with the King (Ete more likely with the back story, although does raise an interesting point - can they be sure their lover is actually the correct version? So maybe Doppelganger Ete is actually talking to Original Sunday?)
-The other of Ete and Weds being RI
-Tertian has been a ninja before, think more likely to be RI this time

Now PS says Originals (I'm going to call them Originals and Doppelgangers from here on unless anyone has any terms they'd prefer) have an information advantage - I'd suspect this means some alts know who the real King Sunday is, or he knows who several real ones are and that roles remain balanced.

So, on to the big mystery, Domingo. Blend says it is based on the Voodoo Master from Mafia 87. A look in the spoilers there tells us that the summoning takes 1 blood sample from each faction plus a sample from a child and a zombie so potentially 5 actions needing to be completed to summon it. We have 2 factions and Domingo has already had contact with everyone so this is where whatever mechanic Blend has put in will fuck with our minds.

At the risk of scaring people, what if Domingo is a FM needing to take out say both King Sundays to absorb their time-displacing and summon Millennium?

TBQH I would expect Domingo to be playing quiet and low since he can coast to victory with *either* side or go for broke and try and take out everyone by summoning Millennium.

For that matter, if summoning Millennium is the only way to heal the time stream shouldn't we all be trying to help rather than bickering?

He says above that he thinks it is Queen Wednesday or Lady Ete has a Lover convo with the King. So Tiam is either the King Sunday or Lady Ete/Wednesday.

What I find interesting is that since that first vote from Rikkter on Tiam, Alkend has been defending Tiam or pushing elswhere.

Alkend, on 24 February 2014 - 06:09 PM, said:

Right. Fuck that shit.

I don't know about you guys but I'm voting every mother fucking coaster in this business.

We got thirteen players, potentially 4-5 chances to nail Domingo then the shitstorm can really begin.

the fact we get no CF means we simply accept after 5 shots if we all still around Domingos out the picture. Rather take the hunt to averages. 5 to 13 ain't great odds so coasters it is.

Got no clue how the fuck DDay calculations work on this but I'm pretty sure either team can handle being 4 ounces of dead weight down.

This is still on day one, page one. He's already talking about "coasters". Why? The only reason I can see is Tiam being voted for and getting attention.


At the end of the day we cannot know if the rest of the alts are playing this fucking game. There's a huge sign over the 3 of these players grouping them together. Everyone wants to lie low, and even Tiam has not said a fucking word in ages.

Let me solve that problem for you.

Remove vote

vote Tiam

Shortly after a lynch train on you your vocal attitude has my hackles up. I am certain you're manipulating this game. you say you are important yet a short while ago you said you weren't. I don't know what you're up to but shifting suspicion onto me is not very friendly. I figure you want me to vote Tiam and there you go, lets do this.

Kesso brings up an interesting point, this vote switch happened very quickly and all the reasoning for it trickled out in later posts. And Alkend suddenly seems to be willing to follow Korabas's lead, when not too long ago he was willing to follow Tiam's lead on Korabas ("Tiam has revealed a lot to get us on the Korabas train", etc.).

[Eloth]

Yeah, I would actually like to hear from Tiam before he's lynched.

Remove vote

[Alkend]

Guys I think you're reading too much into this. I was keen to vote either way. Thats the point of swinging. I do not dislike Korabas as a player, I just think he's up to shifty business, Mafia sense and all that.

I'm inclined to find out more. Players were absent and or reluctant to vote on Korabas, its a drag hinting people aren't keen to support this lynch train. I think a need for more info on Korabas is warranted. One option is to lynch him or if we are precious about it lynch the player pointing at him.

My vote is very liquid on the subject. Will be on in the morning to follow whatever the thread thinks more logical a choice.

[Galayn Lord]

Alkend, on 04 March 2014 - 06:32 PM, said:

Guys I think you're reading too much into this. I was keen to vote either way. Thats the point of swinging. I do not dislike Korabas as a player, I just think he's up to shifty business, Mafia sense and all that.

I'm inclined to find out more. Players were absent and or reluctant to vote on Korabas, its a drag hinting people aren't keen to support this lynch train. I think a need for more info on Korabas is warranted. One option is to lynch him or if we are precious about it lynch the player pointing at him.

My vote is very liquid on the subject. Will be on in the morning to follow whatever the thread thinks more logical a choice.

We would have had the lynch if the last vote had come sooner. Korabas was at L-1. Certainly people were absent but I didn't see a sign that people weren't keen to support the lynch...L-1 implies the opposite with 5 out of 6 needed votes.

[Path-Shaper]

It is now Day 3. 8 hours 36 minute remainig.

11 players alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Tiamatha

6 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night.

1 vote Korabas: Kessobahn
3 votes Tiamatha: Korabas, Alkend, Denul
1 vote Denul: Monok Ochem


Players not voted: Bek Okhan, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Lock, Tiamatha

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 04 March 2014 - 08:00 PM

[Iparth Erule]

I would like to get rid of Denul, since his erratic behaviour is annoying me. And with his random fake revealing finder without any knowledge and vote hopping he is probably doing equal harm to both teams and thus wouldn't be a big loss imho, if we are on the same team. Where did the idea that lynching him would activate some kind of vig ability come from? Since that seems to be the major thing putting people off that course.

Between Tiam and Korabas it is one to me. I don't know if one of them is on my team and lynching either one yields equal information.

[Galayn Lord]

Iparth Erule, on 04 March 2014 - 09:20 PM, said:

I would like to get rid of Denul, since his erratic behaviour is annoying me. And with his random fake revealing finder without any knowledge and vote hopping he is probably doing equal harm to both teams and thus wouldn't be a big loss imho, if we are on the same team. Where did the idea that lynching him would activate some kind of vig ability come from? Since that seems to be the major thing putting people off that course.

Between Tiam and Korabas it is one to me. I don't know if one of them is on my team and lynching either one yields equal information.

Does it? Alkend claims that Korabas is "manipulating" the game. Tiam is cagey as hell with information no one else seems to have.

What happens if one of them is a Timelord? Did we get "equal information" or did one faction just get royally fucked? Obviously some people have more information than others - do they know who their TL is? We are playing a dangerous game lynching people we think are important. Choosing Denul instead doesn't solve anything either; alive, Denul appears to be no threat at all, aside from his occasional vote; dead, he is potentially a vig that could upset faction balances or kill a Timelord or who knows what. It's a massive risk. Leaving him alive right now is much safer than lynching him.

I still don't know where to put my vote, and Tiam has not returned. I suppose if we don't hear from her, I will probably vote there for the sake of a lynch (because we haven't lynched anyone since fucking Rikkter), but I don't really like it all that much. Too unsure. Everyone seems to be saying, "I'm unsure so it doesn't matter either way." The reality is, if you are unsure, it matters BOTH ways until you find out the result, which is an unknown until you pull the trigger.

[Eloth]

Galayn Lord, on 05 March 2014 - 12:47 AM, said:

Iparth Erule, on 04 March 2014 - 09:20 PM, said:

I would like to get rid of Denul, since his erratic behaviour is annoying me. And with his random fake revealing finder without any knowledge and vote hopping he is probably doing equal harm to both teams and thus wouldn't be a big loss imho, if we are on the same team. Where did the idea that lynching him would activate some kind of vig ability come from? Since that seems to be the major thing putting people off that course.

Between Tiam and Korabas it is one to me. I don't know if one of them is on my team and lynching either one yields equal information.

Does it? Alkend claims that Korabas is "manipulating" the game. Tiam is cagey as hell with information no one else seems to have.

What happens if one of them is a Timelord? Did we get "equal information" or did one faction just get royally fucked? Obviously some people have more information than others - do they know who their TL is? We are playing a dangerous game lynching people we think are important. Choosing Denul instead doesn't solve anything either; alive, Denul appears to be no threat at all, aside from his occasional vote; dead, he is potentially a vig that could upset faction balances or kill a Timelord or who knows what. It's a massive risk. Leaving him alive right now is much safer than lynching him.

I still don't know where to put my vote, and Tiam has not returned. I suppose if we don't hear from her, I will probably vote there for the sake of a lynch (because we haven't lynched anyone since fucking Rikkter), but I don't really like it all that much. Too unsure. Everyone seems to be saying, "I'm unsure so it doesn't matter either way." The reality is, if you are unsure, it matters BOTH ways until you find out the result, which is an unknown until you pull the trigger.

Even once the trigger has been pulled, most of us won't know the result. Unless the person lynched has the same role as you, you probably won't know which team they're on.

No one right now is a sure bet. And either way there are going to be problems with picking someone to lynch, because no one has enough information make truly informed decisions. But if we don't lynch, we're just going to be going around in circles and waiting for someone blink. Which is going to make for a fairly boring game.

[Tiamatha]

I may have SOME additional information, but I'm still lost as well, and the beginning of the week is always super busy for me. Denul voting for me shakes the foundation of what I think I know.

Back to stage one for me.

[Kessobahn]

Some two and a half hours left?

I won't be around for day's end, so...

Remove Vote

Vote Tiamatha

[Kessobahn]

Cross post.

Remove Vote

Though I'll need to hear what this additional info is in the next ten minutes.

[Lock]

I'm here, will probably lay down a vote on Tiam in an hour/hour and a half when/if Tiam has nothing more to say.


Edit, changed is to if

This post has been edited by Lock: 05 March 2014 - 02:12 AM