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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:50 PM

View PostTholen, on 04 June 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

Also of note, This game is going to be a bit challenging in that the 2 killers will have no ties to each other. Usually, if we get one, there is a good chance we can get the other based on interactions. We don't have that luxury here. (Sorry shadow if this post was obvious to you. It doesn't really help us find scum, but maybe it will help people think of way/things to post that will helps us eventually. If this doesn't meet your standards for a content filled post that isn't just filler...I apologize.)


so how will we ever catch scum?

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:53 PM

Given that it seems many people are keen on going the low-poster route this game, and given that it ties into my case on Shadow anyway, I will

remove vote
vote Silchas Ruin

I understand the merit of leaving the chatty players around, as they will give us more information to work with later. Day 1 is a perfect day for a low poster lynch. Historically, we rarely hit scum on Day 1 anyway, so if the low poster ends up not being scum, then we can move on. Plus, as I said, I think that it's possible that Silchas was symping Shadow. It's a given that if this is the case, Silchas will obviously show as town, so we won't get much more information, but I'd certainly like to see a lynch today, and if the Shadow lynch won't take off, then Silchas seems a good second choice to me.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:54 PM

View PostHood, on 04 June 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

View PostTholen, on 04 June 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

Also of note, This game is going to be a bit challenging in that the 2 killers will have no ties to each other. Usually, if we get one, there is a good chance we can get the other based on interactions. We don't have that luxury here. (Sorry shadow if this post was obvious to you. It doesn't really help us find scum, but maybe it will help people think of way/things to post that will helps us eventually. If this doesn't meet your standards for a content filled post that isn't just filler...I apologize.)


so how will we ever catch scum?


By looking for the symp, duh! :)

(sorry Shadow if this post was obvious to you. It doesn't really help us find scum, but makybe it will help people think of way/things to post that will helps us eventually. If this doesn't meet your standards for a content filled post that isn't just filler...I apologize.)

That's going to be my standard disclaimer for the rest of the game, I think. Thanks Tholen! :angry:

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:59 PM

View PostKaratallid, on 04 June 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

Given that it seems many people are keen on going the low-poster route this game, and given that it ties into my case on Shadow anyway, I will

remove vote
vote Silchas Ruin

I understand the merit of leaving the chatty players around, as they will give us more information to work with later. Day 1 is a perfect day for a low poster lynch. Historically, we rarely hit scum on Day 1 anyway, so if the low poster ends up not being scum, then we can move on. Plus, as I said, I think that it's possible that Silchas was symping Shadow. It's a given that if this is the case, Silchas will obviously show as town, so we won't get much more information, but I'd certainly like to see a lynch today, and if the Shadow lynch won't take off, then Silchas seems a good second choice to me.


this is the type of thing I often see being accused of preparing for an innocent CF to come back

and, I was looking for something that wouldn't be covered by the disclaimer, not the super obvious symp comment, but thanks

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:02 PM

It is Day 1. 3 hours and 9 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Atrahal, Cast, Desra, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hanas, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Korlat, Shadow, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Tholen, Tiamatha, Venesara

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Skintick ( Tiamatha )
1 Vote for Cast ( Shadow )
1 Vote for Shadow ( Korlat )
3 Votes for Silchas Ruin ( Atrahal, Tholen, Karatallid )
1 Vote for Atrahal ( Cast )
1 Vote for Karatallid ( Silchas Ruin )

Players not voted: Desra, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hanas, Hood's Path, Skintick, Venesara

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 04 June 2013 - 07:03 PM

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:18 PM

View PostTholen, on 04 June 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:

OK, caught up and here are my thoughts. (to those who didn't like my modkill avoidance post...fuck off. I have time to play this game, I just didn't have it until now. It does town no good to have me lynched so I wanted to make sure I got on and avoided the modkill. You're welcome)

Signaling cases are shit. I don't agree with them, and think they are usually a smokescreen case for scum. How often does signalling actually work? How often does the person being signaled even know what to look for. Think on your Mafia career. How many times has it worked or someone being caught in a signal case actually been scum? I just don't think they have any merit and I think the people that use them are either using them as a screen or just can't think of anything better to write.

The Shadow/Desra thing seems over the top and contrived. Shadow going on about unnecessary posting benefiting scum...wtf is that. Someone posted a D-day scenario on thread, and Shadow says thats a worthless post that really contributes nothing...seriously? It seems like according to you, only posts that definitely point out scum should be allowed. That ain't happening. The way we find scum is to post, post a lot, point fingers, be abrasive, get info that others might not have thought of on the thread. I know you are a super genius and all but some people like to have things like D-day scenarios on thread for reference, or because they haven't thought of them. Trying to limit the flow of information on thread IS scummy. That is what you are trying to do.

regarding Desra, I actually think his case/observation had some merit...It doesn't add up that one vet, let alone two, haven't finished the series... but as for it being signalling.. well, I don't think so. But something doesn't seem right there.

There were a ton of people that popped on have like 3-4 posts and bailed.It's a bit early but based on last game, these people need to step up and start posting more. (I know, rich coming from my third post and first of substance...I'll be around much more from here on). We seem to have a posting problem and hopefully it can get fixed. I don't mind low posting, as long as the posts are content filled and constructive. Gaylord stuck out as good in this regard.

I think Atrahal's case on Silchas didn't have much behind it. But it is day 1 and you need to take stabs in the dark. What interests me is the reply that Silchas gave. See Below.



View PostSilchas Ruin, on 04 June 2013 - 12:57 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 04 June 2013 - 08:53 AM, said:

For now I am going to



Vote Silchas Ruin



The only content he provided was the joke vote and a few one liners in response to me. Since then he hasn't done anything to engage in conversation. I am not sure where I place Desra and Shadow at the moment. One of them could be a symp muddying the waters. I want to focus on the people that don't want to stand out and coast along.


The only conversations going on to engage in when I was around yesterday was either meta to the threat of modkill and the pissing match between Desra and Shadow which I found ridiculous but had nothing to share that wouldn't be parroting someone else. And now I had 15 minutes to check the thread before I leave for my day, which resulted in no more insight than the fact that you have a massive rage boner that you're directing my way today.. Anyhow, that's my thoughts.


His reaction seems pretty wild and defensive for receiving one vote. A "massive rage boner" does not one post make. Based on this over reaction I am going to


vote Silchas Ruin


I would also be willing to vote Shadow for trying to control information flow on the thread, or any of the low posters that isn't me. I will be around until lynch.



I was referencing the fact that he clearly has a massive rage boner because he's been abrasive in every post he's made. You think that's the way all of us should be posting, I on the other hand see no reason not to be civil.

View PostKaratallid, on 04 June 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

Given that it seems many people are keen on going the low-poster route this game, and given that it ties into my case on Shadow anyway, I will

remove vote
vote Silchas Ruin

I understand the merit of leaving the chatty players around, as they will give us more information to work with later. Day 1 is a perfect day for a low poster lynch. Historically, we rarely hit scum on Day 1 anyway, so if the low poster ends up not being scum, then we can move on. Plus, as I said, I think that it's possible that Silchas was symping Shadow. It's a given that if this is the case, Silchas will obviously show as town, so we won't get much more information, but I'd certainly like to see a lynch today, and if the Shadow lynch won't take off, then Silchas seems a good second choice to me.


This reinforces my suspicions about Kara. He ignores my earlier point about how scum care more about numbers and distraction than concentrated discussion and jumps on me early to create a train despite the consensus seeming to be that I'm symping Shadow. Why would he shift off of Shadow, the person that has had so much discussion centered on him, and onto the "symp" so fucking early? Could it be because I'm the only one pointing serious fingers at him? If I die at night he's instantly fingered but if I'm lynched that suspicion can be shifted to the back burner. Kill this kid. He's scum AND he's French.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:36 PM

View PostHood, on 04 June 2013 - 06:59 PM, said:

View PostKaratallid, on 04 June 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

Given that it seems many people are keen on going the low-poster route this game, and given that it ties into my case on Shadow anyway, I will

remove vote
vote Silchas Ruin

I understand the merit of leaving the chatty players around, as they will give us more information to work with later. Day 1 is a perfect day for a low poster lynch. Historically, we rarely hit scum on Day 1 anyway, so if the low poster ends up not being scum, then we can move on. Plus, as I said, I think that it's possible that Silchas was symping Shadow. It's a given that if this is the case, Silchas will obviously show as town, so we won't get much more information, but I'd certainly like to see a lynch today, and if the Shadow lynch won't take off, then Silchas seems a good second choice to me.


this is the type of thing I often see being accused of preparing for an innocent CF to come back

and, I was looking for something that wouldn't be covered by the disclaimer, not the super obvious symp comment, but thanks


Well really the only connection between the killers is the symp. Unfortunately, unless he want's to help us out with a fake reveal that is easily found to be a lie, that will be extremely difficult. Otherwise it's basically 2 games of finding a single killer. As others have stated, the one advantage we have is that it's possible, and as time goes on, even likely, that one of the killers will take the other one out.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:40 PM

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 04 June 2013 - 07:18 PM, said:

This reinforces my suspicions about Kara. He ignores my earlier point about how scum care more about numbers and distraction than concentrated discussion and jumps on me early to create a train despite the consensus seeming to be that I'm symping Shadow. Why would he shift off of Shadow, the person that has had so much discussion centered on him, and onto the "symp" so fucking early? Could it be because I'm the only one pointing serious fingers at him? If I die at night he's instantly fingered but if I'm lynched that suspicion can be shifted to the back burner. Kill this kid. He's scum AND he's French.


It's getting close to the end of the day for me, so I won't be able to post much more soon. The train on Shadow had shrunk to just Korlat and myself. Several people have stated that they are interested in a low poster hunt. I personally would prefer to vote Shadow out, but if several people are more interested in voting out a low poster, I'm going to go ahead and place my vote on the only low poster I have any kind of suspicion on, and that's you. I thought I had made that pretty clear in my post, but I guess not. And seriously, you're the ONLY one pointing fingers at me. Why would I go to the trouble of trying to push a lynch on you for that if I was a killer? Maybe if your case had any traction I might, but it doesn't.

My lynch preference is still Shadow, but as people have noted that given the last few games, lynching a low poster seems a viable option, I have decided to agree with them. If the train looks like it's going back Shadow's way before I have to sign out for the day, then I'll move my vote back there. At this time, however, I will not vote for anyone else. You're my two biggest suspects, so you're the ones I will concentrate on.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:42 PM

View PostHood, on 04 June 2013 - 06:59 PM, said:

View PostKaratallid, on 04 June 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

Given that it seems many people are keen on going the low-poster route this game, and given that it ties into my case on Shadow anyway, I will

remove vote
vote Silchas Ruin

I understand the merit of leaving the chatty players around, as they will give us more information to work with later. Day 1 is a perfect day for a low poster lynch. Historically, we rarely hit scum on Day 1 anyway, so if the low poster ends up not being scum, then we can move on. Plus, as I said, I think that it's possible that Silchas was symping Shadow. It's a given that if this is the case, Silchas will obviously show as town, so we won't get much more information, but I'd certainly like to see a lynch today, and if the Shadow lynch won't take off, then Silchas seems a good second choice to me.


this is the type of thing I often see being accused of preparing for an innocent CF to come back

and, I was looking for something that wouldn't be covered by the disclaimer, not the super obvious symp comment, but thanks


I don't really understand what you're trying to say in this post. Can you (or anyone really) please clarify?

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:42 PM

In my experience there are several ways to signal other players. You can agree with them and hope that they notice. You can put codes in and hope to hell that they notice but no one else does. You can follow there votes and back up there arguments so that they think you might be their symp. There are other ways to but lets be honest most of those other ways suck even more then the ones I just described. So taking the third one into consideration I am starting to look at people who are jumping from one train to another. After all scum wants to lynch town.

So the first go around is a couple of votes on Shadow. The first is from Korlat with Kara following.



View PostKorlat, on 04 June 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

Ok, this actually makes my decision easier, knowing that Shadow hasn't been putting themselves as 'out there' as much as I thought they had. I'm going with the 'I haven't read the entire series' signalling theory as the best thing currently around. In that scenario Silchas Ruin is the symp signalling to the killer Shadow that they're relatable in some pretty unique way amongst the players here. Shadow has one of the higher post counts but most of that is from the to-and-fro with Desra, mostly having to react rather than instigate - arguably, anyway.

Vote Shadow



View PostKaratallid, on 04 June 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

Are people taking Shadow seriously? Given the game setup, D-Day is a lot sooner than most M&P games I have participated in and/or modded, so I wanted it to be clear that we needed to be on our toes. Mafia is a game of math and numbers first, so saying that there is no point in discussing the math and numbers is a load of crap. I think Shadow might be so intent on pushing us away from looking at that, so that scum can get a win quickly.

This, combined with the possible signalling between Shadow and Shelly, makes me want to

vote Shadow


Maybe it's a little OMGUS, but seriously, the load of shit that you're trying to shovel in front of us and call good Mafia theory is ridiculous.




Now as soon as the train on Shadow starts to diminish Kara is quick to jump ship. First comes Tholen's vote on Silchas then comes Kara's. To me Kara seems especially eager and willing to just get a train in motion. He seems to come slightly close to making the same points as both Tholen and Korlat but not quite. Follow's both with a vote but keeps just enough distance.



View PostTholen, on 04 June 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:

OK, caught up and here are my thoughts. (to those who didn't like my modkill avoidance post...fuck off. I have time to play this game, I just didn't have it until now. It does town no good to have me lynched so I wanted to make sure I got on and avoided the modkill. You're welcome)

Signaling cases are shit. I don't agree with them, and think they are usually a smokescreen case for scum. How often does signalling actually work? How often does the person being signaled even know what to look for. Think on your Mafia career. How many times has it worked or someone being caught in a signal case actually been scum? I just don't think they have any merit and I think the people that use them are either using them as a screen or just can't think of anything better to write.

The Shadow/Desra thing seems over the top and contrived. Shadow going on about unnecessary posting benefiting scum...wtf is that. Someone posted a D-day scenario on thread, and Shadow says thats a worthless post that really contributes nothing...seriously? It seems like according to you, only posts that definitely point out scum should be allowed. That ain't happening. The way we find scum is to post, post a lot, point fingers, be abrasive, get info that others might not have thought of on the thread. I know you are a super genius and all but some people like to have things like D-day scenarios on thread for reference, or because they haven't thought of them. Trying to limit the flow of information on thread IS scummy. That is what you are trying to do.

regarding Desra, I actually think his case/observation had some merit...It doesn't add up that one vet, let alone two, haven't finished the series... but as for it being signalling.. well, I don't think so. But something doesn't seem right there.

There were a ton of people that popped on have like 3-4 posts and bailed.It's a bit early but based on last game, these people need to step up and start posting more. (I know, rich coming from my third post and first of substance...I'll be around much more from here on). We seem to have a posting problem and hopefully it can get fixed. I don't mind low posting, as long as the posts are content filled and constructive. Gaylord stuck out as good in this regard.

I think Atrahal's case on Silchas didn't have much behind it. But it is day 1 and you need to take stabs in the dark. What interests me is the reply that Silchas gave. See Below.



View PostSilchas Ruin, on 04 June 2013 - 12:57 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 04 June 2013 - 08:53 AM, said:

For now I am going to



Vote Silchas Ruin



The only content he provided was the joke vote and a few one liners in response to me. Since then he hasn't done anything to engage in conversation. I am not sure where I place Desra and Shadow at the moment. One of them could be a symp muddying the waters. I want to focus on the people that don't want to stand out and coast along.


The only conversations going on to engage in when I was around yesterday was either meta to the threat of modkill and the pissing match between Desra and Shadow which I found ridiculous but had nothing to share that wouldn't be parroting someone else. And now I had 15 minutes to check the thread before I leave for my day, which resulted in no more insight than the fact that you have a massive rage boner that you're directing my way today.. Anyhow, that's my thoughts.


His reaction seems pretty wild and defensive for receiving one vote. A "massive rage boner" does not one post make. Based on this over reaction I am going to


vote Silchas Ruin


I would also be willing to vote Shadow for trying to control information flow on the thread, or any of the low posters that isn't me. I will be around until lynch.





View PostKaratallid, on 04 June 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

Given that it seems many people are keen on going the low-poster route this game, and given that it ties into my case on Shadow anyway, I will

remove vote
vote Silchas Ruin

I understand the merit of leaving the chatty players around, as they will give us more information to work with later. Day 1 is a perfect day for a low poster lynch. Historically, we rarely hit scum on Day 1 anyway, so if the low poster ends up not being scum, then we can move on. Plus, as I said, I think that it's possible that Silchas was symping Shadow. It's a given that if this is the case, Silchas will obviously show as town, so we won't get much more information, but I'd certainly like to see a lynch today, and if the Shadow lynch won't take off, then Silchas seems a good second choice to me.



I am not sold on any of these being scum. But I am pointing out when something strikes me as off or something that I would do.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:45 PM

Well we are getting down to lynch time. A certain amount of vote following is inevitable if we are going to get a lynch :angry:

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:50 PM

View PostKaratallid, on 04 June 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 04 June 2013 - 06:59 PM, said:

View PostKaratallid, on 04 June 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

Given that it seems many people are keen on going the low-poster route this game, and given that it ties into my case on Shadow anyway, I will

remove vote
vote Silchas Ruin

I understand the merit of leaving the chatty players around, as they will give us more information to work with later. Day 1 is a perfect day for a low poster lynch. Historically, we rarely hit scum on Day 1 anyway, so if the low poster ends up not being scum, then we can move on. Plus, as I said, I think that it's possible that Silchas was symping Shadow. It's a given that if this is the case, Silchas will obviously show as town, so we won't get much more information, but I'd certainly like to see a lynch today, and if the Shadow lynch won't take off, then Silchas seems a good second choice to me.


this is the type of thing I often see being accused of preparing for an innocent CF to come back

and, I was looking for something that wouldn't be covered by the disclaimer, not the super obvious symp comment, but thanks


I don't really understand what you're trying to say in this post. Can you (or anyone really) please clarify?


1st line - saying your post reminds me of other posts I have seen called scummy because it sets up the person (you in this case) to support the lynch of an inno with no ramifications.

2nd line - saying I knew about the symp & wanted some other ideas

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:51 PM

View PostDesra, on 04 June 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:

In my experience there are several ways to signal other players. You can agree with them and hope that they notice. You can put codes in and hope to hell that they notice but no one else does. You can follow there votes and back up there arguments so that they think you might be their symp. There are other ways to but lets be honest most of those other ways suck even more then the ones I just described. So taking the third one into consideration I am starting to look at people who are jumping from one train to another. After all scum wants to lynch town.

So the first go around is a couple of votes on Shadow. The first is from Korlat with Kara following.



View PostKorlat, on 04 June 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

Ok, this actually makes my decision easier, knowing that Shadow hasn't been putting themselves as 'out there' as much as I thought they had. I'm going with the 'I haven't read the entire series' signalling theory as the best thing currently around. In that scenario Silchas Ruin is the symp signalling to the killer Shadow that they're relatable in some pretty unique way amongst the players here. Shadow has one of the higher post counts but most of that is from the to-and-fro with Desra, mostly having to react rather than instigate - arguably, anyway.

Vote Shadow



View PostKaratallid, on 04 June 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

Are people taking Shadow seriously? Given the game setup, D-Day is a lot sooner than most M&P games I have participated in and/or modded, so I wanted it to be clear that we needed to be on our toes. Mafia is a game of math and numbers first, so saying that there is no point in discussing the math and numbers is a load of crap. I think Shadow might be so intent on pushing us away from looking at that, so that scum can get a win quickly.

This, combined with the possible signalling between Shadow and Shelly, makes me want to

vote Shadow


Maybe it's a little OMGUS, but seriously, the load of shit that you're trying to shovel in front of us and call good Mafia theory is ridiculous.




Now as soon as the train on Shadow starts to diminish Kara is quick to jump ship. First comes Tholen's vote on Silchas then comes Kara's. To me Kara seems especially eager and willing to just get a train in motion. He seems to come slightly close to making the same points as both Tholen and Korlat but not quite. Follow's both with a vote but keeps just enough distance.



View PostTholen, on 04 June 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:

OK, caught up and here are my thoughts. (to those who didn't like my modkill avoidance post...fuck off. I have time to play this game, I just didn't have it until now. It does town no good to have me lynched so I wanted to make sure I got on and avoided the modkill. You're welcome)

Signaling cases are shit. I don't agree with them, and think they are usually a smokescreen case for scum. How often does signalling actually work? How often does the person being signaled even know what to look for. Think on your Mafia career. How many times has it worked or someone being caught in a signal case actually been scum? I just don't think they have any merit and I think the people that use them are either using them as a screen or just can't think of anything better to write.

The Shadow/Desra thing seems over the top and contrived. Shadow going on about unnecessary posting benefiting scum...wtf is that. Someone posted a D-day scenario on thread, and Shadow says thats a worthless post that really contributes nothing...seriously? It seems like according to you, only posts that definitely point out scum should be allowed. That ain't happening. The way we find scum is to post, post a lot, point fingers, be abrasive, get info that others might not have thought of on the thread. I know you are a super genius and all but some people like to have things like D-day scenarios on thread for reference, or because they haven't thought of them. Trying to limit the flow of information on thread IS scummy. That is what you are trying to do.

regarding Desra, I actually think his case/observation had some merit...It doesn't add up that one vet, let alone two, haven't finished the series... but as for it being signalling.. well, I don't think so. But something doesn't seem right there.

There were a ton of people that popped on have like 3-4 posts and bailed.It's a bit early but based on last game, these people need to step up and start posting more. (I know, rich coming from my third post and first of substance...I'll be around much more from here on). We seem to have a posting problem and hopefully it can get fixed. I don't mind low posting, as long as the posts are content filled and constructive. Gaylord stuck out as good in this regard.

I think Atrahal's case on Silchas didn't have much behind it. But it is day 1 and you need to take stabs in the dark. What interests me is the reply that Silchas gave. See Below.



View PostSilchas Ruin, on 04 June 2013 - 12:57 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 04 June 2013 - 08:53 AM, said:

For now I am going to



Vote Silchas Ruin



The only content he provided was the joke vote and a few one liners in response to me. Since then he hasn't done anything to engage in conversation. I am not sure where I place Desra and Shadow at the moment. One of them could be a symp muddying the waters. I want to focus on the people that don't want to stand out and coast along.


The only conversations going on to engage in when I was around yesterday was either meta to the threat of modkill and the pissing match between Desra and Shadow which I found ridiculous but had nothing to share that wouldn't be parroting someone else. And now I had 15 minutes to check the thread before I leave for my day, which resulted in no more insight than the fact that you have a massive rage boner that you're directing my way today.. Anyhow, that's my thoughts.


His reaction seems pretty wild and defensive for receiving one vote. A "massive rage boner" does not one post make. Based on this over reaction I am going to


vote Silchas Ruin


I would also be willing to vote Shadow for trying to control information flow on the thread, or any of the low posters that isn't me. I will be around until lynch.





View PostKaratallid, on 04 June 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

Given that it seems many people are keen on going the low-poster route this game, and given that it ties into my case on Shadow anyway, I will

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I understand the merit of leaving the chatty players around, as they will give us more information to work with later. Day 1 is a perfect day for a low poster lynch. Historically, we rarely hit scum on Day 1 anyway, so if the low poster ends up not being scum, then we can move on. Plus, as I said, I think that it's possible that Silchas was symping Shadow. It's a given that if this is the case, Silchas will obviously show as town, so we won't get much more information, but I'd certainly like to see a lynch today, and if the Shadow lynch won't take off, then Silchas seems a good second choice to me.



I am not sold on any of these being scum. But I am pointing out when something strikes me as off or something that I would do.


So let me get this straight, I have been discussing Shadow and Silchas since the beginning of the game, and yet cause others have actually put the vote down first, I'm 'following' ? Sure, the cases I have are similar to Korlat and Tholen's, but that's only because Korlat and Tholen basically did a breakdown of the discussion that I started and have been participating in since the beginning of the game. If anyone is following the herd, here, it's them. I am interested in getting a lynch, as even a town lynch gives us something to work with on Day 2, so my vote goes to whichever of the two seems more likely to me, and right now, that means low-posting Silchas.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:57 PM

View PostHood, on 04 June 2013 - 07:50 PM, said:

View PostKaratallid, on 04 June 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 04 June 2013 - 06:59 PM, said:

View PostKaratallid, on 04 June 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

Given that it seems many people are keen on going the low-poster route this game, and given that it ties into my case on Shadow anyway, I will

remove vote
vote Silchas Ruin

I understand the merit of leaving the chatty players around, as they will give us more information to work with later. Day 1 is a perfect day for a low poster lynch. Historically, we rarely hit scum on Day 1 anyway, so if the low poster ends up not being scum, then we can move on. Plus, as I said, I think that it's possible that Silchas was symping Shadow. It's a given that if this is the case, Silchas will obviously show as town, so we won't get much more information, but I'd certainly like to see a lynch today, and if the Shadow lynch won't take off, then Silchas seems a good second choice to me.


this is the type of thing I often see being accused of preparing for an innocent CF to come back

and, I was looking for something that wouldn't be covered by the disclaimer, not the super obvious symp comment, but thanks


I don't really understand what you're trying to say in this post. Can you (or anyone really) please clarify?


1st line - saying your post reminds me of other posts I have seen called scummy because it sets up the person (you in this case) to support the lynch of an inno with no ramifications.

2nd line - saying I knew about the symp & wanted some other ideas


Re: 1st line - so you think that I'm scummy cause I'm, what, saying that I'd rather vote Shadow than Silchas? I think that Silchas is more likely to be a symp than a killer. I think it's important to put my theories on thread so that they can be used by town if I get killed or lynched to try and suss out the killers. I think Shadow is more likely to CF killer than town, based on the drivel he's been spewing all over thread, but, as I said above, I'm interested in getting a lynch today, so I'm going to throw my vote on whichever of the two seems most likely, which, at the moment, is Silchas.

Re: 2nd line - there isn't much else out there where Silchas is involved. He's only got like 9 posts, which maybe 5 of them are actual content. The guy's got a hard on for me, but hey, I don't blame him for trying to deflect a lynch from himself.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:59 PM

We really need to make sure we lynch; I'm worried about the 2 deaths per night rate of loss, so we need to take a shot at scum every chance we get. I will support a lynch of SR, though if we had more time, I would prefer people to agree upon a low poster.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:07 PM

View PostTiamatha, on 04 June 2013 - 07:59 PM, said:

We really need to make sure we lynch; I'm worried about the 2 deaths per night rate of loss, so we need to take a shot at scum every chance we get. I will support a lynch of SR, though if we had more time, I would prefer people to agree upon a low poster.

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Well, Silchas is pretty close to a low poster. He's got 9 posts, only 5 of which actually have content. The rest are just condemning me for being French Canadian.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:10 PM

Alright, whatever, you guys are settled into your stupidity and I can't change that now. You'll all regret this when Kara turns up scum. He'll twirl his fucking pencil mustache and chortle at you in that singularly annoying French fashion. Kara, I'm pretty sure I know who you are, and you're on my list.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:11 PM

It is Day 1. 2 hours remaining

15 Players still alive: Atrahal, Cast, Desra, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hanas, Hood's Path, Karatallid, Korlat, Shadow, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Tholen, Tiamatha, Venesara

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Cast ( Shadow )
1 Vote for Shadow ( Korlat )
5 Votes for Silchas Ruin ( Atrahal, Tholen, Karatallid, Tiamatha, Silchas Ruin )
1 Vote for Atrahal ( Cast )

Players not voted: Desra, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hanas, Hood's Path, Skintick, Venesara

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 04 June 2013 - 08:11 PM

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:16 PM

View PostTholen, on 04 June 2013 - 07:45 PM, said:

Well we are getting down to lynch time. A certain amount of vote following is inevitable if we are going to get a lynch :)


This is very true but pointing things out now helps in the long run. :angry:

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:17 PM

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 04 June 2013 - 08:10 PM, said:

Alright, whatever, you guys are settled into your stupidity and I can't change that now. You'll all regret this when Kara turns up scum. He'll twirl his fucking pencil mustache and chortle at you in that singularly annoying French fashion. Kara, I'm pretty sure I know who you are, and you're on my list.

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Well, I hope you'll remove me when you get to SH and realize that I'm not scum.

Anyway, Day's not over yet, you could still survive! Doesn't seem to be many people on thread at the moment.

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