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Path-Shaper, on 29 May 2013 - 08:48 PM, said:

twelve, on 29 May 2013 - 08:40 PM, said:

I haven't been following the game at all but after reading the roles wouldn't it be very easy for the town time lord to track down the scum players based on his ability to move time? Since day one he knows that there are only 2 scum players and he knows who 2 town players are. Why doesn't he just take a little bit of time from half the players in the game and see how much time is actually moved. If it's off by x ie not off at all or y is off by two players worth of time he should halve the suspect field. Can't he just continue to repeat the process until he has located who scum actually is and then reveal on thread? Even if he can do this only once per day then he can right out of the gate narrow who the leading scum members are significantly.

I'm probably missing something in the mechanics but this game should be over in day one if the time lord figures this out.

I'm sorry I don't understand your question. How would the Town TL know which players he was taking time from. Yes he knows their role names but he doesn't (other then players who have died or died and been brought back to life) know which alt's they are. So he doesn't know which alts he is taking time from. He will learn which alts have been recruited but once again he won't know which role links up to which alt. Other then in the above mentioned cases.

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I thought he has to specify which players he has to take the time from.

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Path-Shaper, on 29 May 2013 - 08:52 PM, said:

So say that you where mistaken or rushed when you told him that was how it worked. Or that after careful consideration Venge talked you out of it. Or go with the uhh I changed my mind. Time is a constant stream and you can't go back over messages twice. I would give him blank messages from the first half hour and tell him that due to the rewinding of time they where wipped out. So then you wouldn't feel bad about going back on something that you said, cause technically you didn't. You just can't pass messages that didn't happen due to the time rewind and fastforward. It is a smartass thing that I would do.

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Maybe I'll just put as many quotes as there were messages, and just write This Message has been lost in the time stream into each of the quotes from the original 30 minutes.

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twelve, on 29 May 2013 - 08:57 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 29 May 2013 - 08:48 PM, said:

twelve, on 29 May 2013 - 08:40 PM, said:

I haven't been following the game at all but after reading the roles wouldn't it be very easy for the town time lord to track down the scum players based on his ability to move time? Since day one he knows that there are only 2 scum players and he knows who 2 town players are. Why doesn't he just take a little bit of time from half the players in the game and see how much time is actually moved. If it's off by x ie not off at all or y is off by two players worth of time he should halve the suspect field. Can't he just continue to repeat the process until he has located who scum actually is and then reveal on thread? Even if he can do this only once per day then he can right out of the gate narrow who the leading scum members are significantly.

I'm probably missing something in the mechanics but this game should be over in day one if the time lord figures this out.

I'm sorry I don't understand your question. How would the Town TL know which players he was taking time from. Yes he knows their role names but he doesn't (other then players who have died or died and been brought back to life) know which alt's they are. So he doesn't know which alts he is taking time from. He will learn which alts have been recruited but once again he won't know which role links up to which alt. Other then in the above mentioned cases.

V

I thought he has to specify which players he has to take the time from.

Yes, but he is only given the roles, not the actually alts. So he has to, for example, take 2 hours from Sir Thursday, 1 hours from Mister Monday, 3 hours from Lady Ete, that kind of thing.

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Eloth, on 29 May 2013 - 08:57 PM, said:

Provisional Day 3:
No Eavesdropping

Noted

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[Path-Shaper]

Path-Shaper, on 29 May 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 29 May 2013 - 08:52 PM, said:

So say that you where mistaken or rushed when you told him that was how it worked. Or that after careful consideration Venge talked you out of it. Or go with the uhh I changed my mind. Time is a constant stream and you can't go back over messages twice. I would give him blank messages from the first half hour and tell him that due to the rewinding of time they where wipped out. So then you wouldn't feel bad about going back on something that you said, cause technically you didn't. You just can't pass messages that didn't happen due to the time rewind and fastforward. It is a smartass thing that I would do.

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Maybe I'll just put as many quotes as there were messages, and just write This Message has been lost in the time stream into each of the quotes from the original 30 minutes.

That is perfect. Not your fault that there where obviously a lot of messages that his timelord wipped out.


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This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 29 May 2013 - 09:01 PM

[twelve]

Path-Shaper, on 29 May 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

twelve, on 29 May 2013 - 08:57 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 29 May 2013 - 08:48 PM, said:

twelve, on 29 May 2013 - 08:40 PM, said:

I haven't been following the game at all but after reading the roles wouldn't it be very easy for the town time lord to track down the scum players based on his ability to move time? Since day one he knows that there are only 2 scum players and he knows who 2 town players are. Why doesn't he just take a little bit of time from half the players in the game and see how much time is actually moved. If it's off by x ie not off at all or y is off by two players worth of time he should halve the suspect field. Can't he just continue to repeat the process until he has located who scum actually is and then reveal on thread? Even if he can do this only once per day then he can right out of the gate narrow who the leading scum members are significantly.

I'm probably missing something in the mechanics but this game should be over in day one if the time lord figures this out.

I'm sorry I don't understand your question. How would the Town TL know which players he was taking time from. Yes he knows their role names but he doesn't (other then players who have died or died and been brought back to life) know which alt's they are. So he doesn't know which alts he is taking time from. He will learn which alts have been recruited but once again he won't know which role links up to which alt. Other then in the above mentioned cases.

V

I thought he has to specify which players he has to take the time from.

Yes, but he is only given the roles, not the actually alts. So he has to, for example, take 2 hours from Sir Thursday, 1 hours from Mister Monday, 3 hours from Lady Ete, that kind of thing.

I guess I must have misread this then. I thought he had to pick the alts not the roles. This way it takes the finding ability away. No night kills is going to make this a slow game. I like the limited find ability of the queen aspect. If scum aren't big talkers it could make it very difficult for the finder to actually find anything.

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Rebels freaking out...

Nimander Golit, on 29 May 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

I just finished spending an hour trying to formulate a quote case on Eloth and its not doable. There's not enough content. And if I pressure him for low posting and for drive by voting then he could just reveal guard and say he guarded me last night and I had an action. Then either he and I are both lynched or I am and he's PI by my cf. Auuuuuuugh, I clearly can't drink the wine in front of either of us!

Karosis, on 30 May 2013 - 06:07 AM, said:

Unless you claim guard first? I don't hold much hope for us unless we lynch eloth today. I'm going to push this today. I'm going to tie in Sorrit to the case. Sorrit lied quite low most of day one, padded his post count and follows eloth today. Reasoning for that? Well eloth got stick towards back end of day one and the first thing he does is use feners quote to finger you as scummy. Then Sorrit comes in and makes a case in you. It feels quite dodgy.

your thoughts? Bcs I take a hit instead of you, without you it is game over.

Karosis, on 30 May 2013 - 07:48 AM, said:

i think I may need to sacrifice myself here. you'd get two recruits. I claim guard, eloth claims guard, he gets lynched i get lynched you get two recruits, then get lynched. what are your thoughts?

Karosis, on 30 May 2013 - 12:34 PM, said:

smart town is smart.

Karosis, on 30 May 2013 - 12:35 PM, said:

I am going to vote for you, which would be very scummy.

Karosis, on 30 May 2013 - 12:51 PM, said:

I'm preying that 4 votes on you already will lead a vote swing, especially since what I have just done is very scummy. I have defended you, yet voted you, and removed off Eloth. Therefore pointing to you as the only train, town will argue against this and hopefully move elsewhere, possibly on to me. I just hope you get your recruit otherwise = bad times.

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Nimander Golit, on 30 May 2013 - 01:13 PM, said:

Yeah, I might throw you under the bus. I won't be at the library until 2 hours from now but I'm gonna see the mood of the thread and possibly build a case on you then.

Karosis, on 30 May 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

Yeah best way forward. I am moving time forward to look like I want your lynched sped up.

[Path-Shaper]

Venge - you fail at time updates in the morning! You were like 6 hours off. PLUS you had put Nimander voting for himself, when it was, in fact, Sheltatha voting for him! It's all fixed now, just wanted to point out that you fail at morning updates!

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Path-Shaper, on 30 May 2013 - 01:26 PM, said:

Venge - you fail at time updates in the morning! You were like 6 hours off. PLUS you had put Nimander voting for himself, when it was, in fact, Sheltatha voting for him! It's all fixed now, just wanted to point out that you fail at morning updates!

I haven't had caffeine yet.

[Path-Shaper]

Karosis action:

Karosis, on 30 May 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 30 May 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 21 hours 15 minutes remaining

14 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 vote Eloth ( Gait )
1 vote Sorrit ( Kessobahn )
4 votes Nimander ( Sorrit, Sheltatha Lore, Omtose, Karosis )


Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

Move time forward 1 hour.

Path-Shaper, on 30 May 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

The time remaining were quite a bit off. I have gone and fixed them. Do you still want to move time?

Karosis, on 30 May 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

Yes move time forward 1 hour

Karosis, on 30 May 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 30 May 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

The time remaining were quite a bit off. I have gone and fixed them. Do you still want to move time?

actually move time back 15 minutes and then forward an hour.

Path-Shaper, on 30 May 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

Noted. Processing now.

...So, I don't get the reasoning behind these time movements. It only makes it seem obvious to me that he's the TL. Sure, Nimander's the one that matters ultimately, but still... Gonna be interesting to see where this goes.

[Path-Shaper]

I think that Karosis may be going for the someone is trying to set me up. Of course that could easily backfire and get him and Nimander lynched.

[Path-Shaper]

Path-Shaper, on 30 May 2013 - 02:07 PM, said:

I think that Karosis may be going for the someone is trying to set me up. Of course that could easily backfire and get him and Nimander lynched.

Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out. I hold out very little hope for scum right now.

[Path-Shaper]

Tennes, on 30 May 2013 - 12:48 AM, said:

Guard in this order: (night guard)

Karosis
Nimander
Ay

Noted

[Path-Shaper]

Path-Shaper, on 30 May 2013 - 02:10 PM, said:

Tennes, on 30 May 2013 - 12:48 AM, said:

Guard in this order: (night guard)

Karosis
Nimander
Ay

Noted

That sucks for scum.

If Karosis manages to deflect from Nimander onto himself, then Nimander gets guarded. If he doesn't, then Karosis gets guarded, but Nimander is likely to be lynched. Poor scum!

[Path-Shaper]

Heh, now things get interesting. If Karosis can manage to move the lynch over to Eloth, then Nimander will get his recruit, Eloth won't find out that Nimander's the recruiter from his eavesdropping. It's gonna be interesting!

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Path-Shaper, on 30 May 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

Heh, now things get interesting. If Karosis can manage to move the lynch over to Eloth, then Nimander will get his recruit, Eloth won't find out that Nimander's the recruiter from his eavesdropping. It's gonna be interesting!

TS will just let Eloth get lynched then reverse to prevent the lynch then fast forward the the next day. Proving that Eloth isn't a TL.

I think that Karosis and Nimander jumped the gun on their plan a bit. Same thing with the reveal. If they had kept their cool and made a better case for someone else then that might have kept the pressure off of Nimander better then this will.

[Path-Shaper]

[/b]It is Day 2. 14 hours 17 minutes remaining

14 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 vote Eloth ( Gait )
1 vote Sorrit ( Kessobahn )
4 votes Nimander ( Sorrit, Sheltatha Lore, Omtose, Karosis )


Players not voted: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn[/quote]

Karosis, on 30 May 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

back 1 min

[Path-Shaper]

Tapper coming on and blowing holes in GP carefully laid panic plan.

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[Path-Shaper]

Tapper might blow his lid on this though. A Tapper Tatts pissing contest.


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