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Rebels

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 05:21 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 05:18 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 05:10 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 04:38 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

Back in a few hours.

Before you go, was that your time shift? Also, I don't recommends getting too involved in role discussion when you have a major role. Too much temptation to accidentally tip too many cards.

Yeah it was mine. Means I only have three hours until you recruit somebody. Then I'll have seven.

If you fall too far behind in your fight with SL I'll recruit him. I think he seems smart enough to piece together the reasoning behind such a recruitment and should crawl back out of your ass. If you can drive a lynch on him though, so much the better.

That was quite a defensive post by him, I think by mentioning town roles and being unrecoverable (stupid phone) unrecruitable he is making off

Backing!

Hopefully. The way I read that though he had a stronger voice. We'll see how the sheep decide.

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Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 04:29 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 28 May 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

Will I be told who attempted to recruit me?

How would you know if an recruit attempt would have been made otherwise. If you would rather you can guess through out the game. Blend would probably be fine with that if you want. I will let her know.

V

Venge misunderstood I think.

You will be told if a recruit attempt was made on you, but you will not be told who the recruiter was. This would make it too easy for you to just take out the scum recruiter.

-Blend

Yeah I did. I read that as attempt not person...sigh... lack of caffeine

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Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 05:11 PM, said:

Hey Venge - the link in the OP of the MM thread isn't working for me. Has it changed?

The link works fine for me. I also posted a link at the top of this thread. I have used both with out issue.

V

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Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 05:11 PM, said:

Hey Venge - the link in the OP of the MM thread isn't working for me. Has it changed?

The link works fine for me. I also posted a link at the top of this thread. I have used both with out issue.

V

Yeah, so it doesn't work for me, must be cause I'm at work or something. I even tried it on three different browsers. Will try it from home, but it looks like I'm just gonna have to do it the old-fashioned way regardless!

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Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:

Very Provisional Day 2 eavesdrop:

Spy on Nimander Golit. If dead, Aranatha.

• 36 hours to 35 hours (back to back)

Noted

V

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Oh where are we keeping the provisionals?

V

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Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 06:06 PM, said:

Oh where are we keeping the provisionals?

V

6th post in - just update the Night Actions section of the post as they come in.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 28 May 2013 - 06:21 PM

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Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 03:12 PM, said:

Hehe, ok

Tertian, the Jester. I assume that this is the mysterious 15th role. But - is Jester just a title, or is it an actual mafia jester?

That is a musing right. Cause you know your not getting anything like that out of me.

V

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Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 07:22 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 06:29 PM, said:

Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 05:59 PM, said:

I've been thinking that the vig, for once, might actually be more helpful than unhelpful to town. Because I can reverse any vig should I deem it the wrong choice. So the only things which should keep the vig from vigging is a fear that they might hit their Timelord, and the number of vigs that they've got.

Are you sure? TL1 blend specifically said vigs couldn't be undone. "fall out of the time stream"

In my role PM it says I can reverse lynches AND deaths.

cool

Does it say anything about the announcement in thread when time is moved? Last game it was "Lord X has..." The jester possibly being able to shift time might be deducible from the wording.

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VENGE - this one's important for resolutions:

Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

A Blend question:

Today (Day 1) I target Nimander for Day 2.

Day 2 I put an order in to spy on Merrid for Day 3.

Day 2 lynch occurs and is posted.

Night is resolved and posted.

Dawn Day 3. I have NOT, repeat NOT opened the message with the eavesdrop results. For whatever reason I decide to ask TS for a reversal to Day 2, would I be able to change my Day 3 target?

This assumes the day/night resolution occurs when all 3 of us are online. No, I don't know why I would want to change targets and lose the intel, but it could happen. Or maybe TS is the one who wants me to change targets and he drops the yet to be determinded code word that tells me "Don't fucking read your mail! Retarget X" or "target no one, we need to talk."

If the answer is that you would allow that, we probably need to set up a "here's your intel" conversation. There's only one of me, so it's not like it's hard to keep track.


Also, is there any way that I could listen in on a target during night?

Nope. Once Day times out, you get your results. Whether you open them or not is irrelevant. Once I have sent you your results, you will not be allowed to change your target for the day you have received results for.

Nights are instant. Now, I realize that there are instances where resolution won't happen right away, so in those instances, if you have decided to listen in to the 1st 30 minutes of day, then I will add the messages that are sent during the 'night' phase up to 30 minutes into the day.

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Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 08:48 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 08:42 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 16 hours and 57 minutes remaining
15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Aranatha )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Karosis )
1 Vote for Sorrit ( Eloth )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Sheltatha Lore )
1 Vote for Sheltatha Lore ( Omtose )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Barghast, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

Fast forward an hour. 15 left.

2 hours magic left to me.

noted

V

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Blend. Gnaw does know that the nights are instantaneous right. So it isn't possible for him to get any night pm's. They would be definition either occur before the end of the day or after the start of the day. Unless I am missing something.


V

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Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

Blend. Gnaw does know that the nights are instantaneous right. So it isn't possible for him to get any night pm's. They would be definition either occur before the end of the day or after the start of the day. Unless I am missing something.


V

I just wanted to be fair in instances where resolution doesn't happen for a good chunk of hours because we're both in bed. That's not THEIR fault, so given that nights are technically instant, I've decided that if he eavesdrops at the beginning of day, then I'll give him the 'night' PMs too. I don't want any time to be sacred, the Eavesdropper should be allowed to eavesdrop at any point in a day/night cycle. I thought instant nights would fix that, but I hadn't taken into account the situations where, even with instant nights, there will be some dead time between resolutions.

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Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

Blend. Gnaw does know that the nights are instantaneous right. So it isn't possible for him to get any night pm's. They would be definition either occur before the end of the day or after the start of the day. Unless I am missing something.


V

I just wanted to be fair in instances where resolution doesn't happen for a good chunk of hours because we're both in bed. That's not THEIR fault, so given that nights are technically instant, I've decided that if he eavesdrops at the beginning of day, then I'll give him the 'night' PMs too. I don't want any time to be sacred, the Eavesdropper should be allowed to eavesdrop at any point in a day/night cycle. I thought instant nights would fix that, but I hadn't taken into account the situations where, even with instant nights, there will be some dead time between resolutions.

Do you strongly disagree, Spicy Tits?

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Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

Blend. Gnaw does know that the nights are instantaneous right. So it isn't possible for him to get any night pm's. They would be definition either occur before the end of the day or after the start of the day. Unless I am missing something.


V

I just wanted to be fair in instances where resolution doesn't happen for a good chunk of hours because we're both in bed. That's not THEIR fault, so given that nights are technically instant, I've decided that if he eavesdrops at the beginning of day, then I'll give him the 'night' PMs too. I don't want any time to be sacred, the Eavesdropper should be allowed to eavesdrop at any point in a day/night cycle. I thought instant nights would fix that, but I hadn't taken into account the situations where, even with instant nights, there will be some dead time between resolutions.

I am not so sure about giving of the night pm's, and here is why. When I am on and the day times out or there is a lynch then this is the order that I do things. Resolve the lynch on thread. Send out all PM's. Start the new day on thread. Thus any PM's that are going to be sent out that are a direct result of night actions. Your dead your recruited would occur before the start of day and should be treated like such. Giving out PM's that occur in the timeline (after the day starts) which will happen when both of us are asleep is understandable. Giving out Mod EOD pm's is handing a huge advantage to scum. Leading to significant potential unbalancing issues. I am of the firm opinion that any night pm's are off limits to the evesdropper. But yes start of day when ever that occurs are totally on limits.

I do not blame Gnaw for trying to exploit his ability to the maximum effect. But we have to keep in mind the balance that we worked out and giving town a potential night and day finder is not on the balance sheet at least not on mine.

V

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Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 09:06 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

Blend. Gnaw does know that the nights are instantaneous right. So it isn't possible for him to get any night pm's. They would be definition either occur before the end of the day or after the start of the day. Unless I am missing something.


V

I just wanted to be fair in instances where resolution doesn't happen for a good chunk of hours because we're both in bed. That's not THEIR fault, so given that nights are technically instant, I've decided that if he eavesdrops at the beginning of day, then I'll give him the 'night' PMs too. I don't want any time to be sacred, the Eavesdropper should be allowed to eavesdrop at any point in a day/night cycle. I thought instant nights would fix that, but I hadn't taken into account the situations where, even with instant nights, there will be some dead time between resolutions.

Do you strongly disagree, Spicy Tits?

I do.

V

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King/queen

Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 09:18 PM, said:

Yeah, and again it wasn't me. I wonder if there's any motivation behind it. For the moment I'm content to think they're just fucking around.

I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to rewind time beyond the beginning of a day (i.e. we can't go back into a previous day), so your question to Blend is moot

Erm, about your target's night PMs thing...nights are instantaneous, so exactly what PMs are you thinking you'll receive?

I would just like to point out that Khell thinks the same way that I am in regards to this issue.


V

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Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 09:11 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

Blend. Gnaw does know that the nights are instantaneous right. So it isn't possible for him to get any night pm's. They would be definition either occur before the end of the day or after the start of the day. Unless I am missing something.


V

I just wanted to be fair in instances where resolution doesn't happen for a good chunk of hours because we're both in bed. That's not THEIR fault, so given that nights are technically instant, I've decided that if he eavesdrops at the beginning of day, then I'll give him the 'night' PMs too. I don't want any time to be sacred, the Eavesdropper should be allowed to eavesdrop at any point in a day/night cycle. I thought instant nights would fix that, but I hadn't taken into account the situations where, even with instant nights, there will be some dead time between resolutions.

I am not so sure about giving of the night pm's, and here is why. When I am on and the day times out or there is a lynch then this is the order that I do things. Resolve the lynch on thread. Send out all PM's. Start the new day on thread. Thus any PM's that are going to be sent out that are a direct result of night actions. Your dead your recruited would occur before the start of day and should be treated like such. Giving out PM's that occur in the timeline (after the day starts) which will happen when both of us are asleep is understandable. Giving out Mod EOD pm's is handing a huge advantage to scum. Leading to significant potential unbalancing issues. I am of the firm opinion that any night pm's are off limits to the evesdropper. But yes start of day when ever that occurs are totally on limits.

I do not blame Gnaw for trying to exploit his ability to the maximum effect. But we have to keep in mind the balance that we worked out and giving town a potential night and day finder is not on the balance sheet at least not on mine.

V

Okay, when you put it that way, I agree with you. I will retract my ruling when I get to my house and on a computer, or you can take care of it.

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King/queen

Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 09:18 PM, said:

Yeah, and again it wasn't me. I wonder if there's any motivation behind it. For the moment I'm content to think they're just fucking around.

I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to rewind time beyond the beginning of a day (i.e. we can't go back into a previous day), so your question to Blend is moot

Erm, about your target's night PMs thing...nights are instantaneous, so exactly what PMs are you thinking you'll receive?

Blend missed it as well.

"you have been recruited".

Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

Hmm, the vigilante last game was a night killer - so I may not actually be able to reverse that. I wonder if it's been changed for this game or if there really is some other way to kill people in this game?

I will get back to you on the timeframes and codewords, in the next somethingish hours (soon!).

Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 09:18 PM, said:

Yeah, and again it wasn't me. I wonder if there's any motivation behind it. For the moment I'm content to think they're just fucking around.

I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to rewind time beyond the beginning of a day (i.e. we can't go back into a previous day), so your question to Blend is moot

Erm, about your target's night PMs thing...nights are instantaneous, so exactly what PMs are you thinking you'll receive?

Blend missed it as well.

"you have been recruited".

Better:

"you have been recruited BY..."

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Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 09:22 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 09:11 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

Blend. Gnaw does know that the nights are instantaneous right. So it isn't possible for him to get any night pm's. They would be definition either occur before the end of the day or after the start of the day. Unless I am missing something.


V

I just wanted to be fair in instances where resolution doesn't happen for a good chunk of hours because we're both in bed. That's not THEIR fault, so given that nights are technically instant, I've decided that if he eavesdrops at the beginning of day, then I'll give him the 'night' PMs too. I don't want any time to be sacred, the Eavesdropper should be allowed to eavesdrop at any point in a day/night cycle. I thought instant nights would fix that, but I hadn't taken into account the situations where, even with instant nights, there will be some dead time between resolutions.

I am not so sure about giving of the night pm's, and here is why. When I am on and the day times out or there is a lynch then this is the order that I do things. Resolve the lynch on thread. Send out all PM's. Start the new day on thread. Thus any PM's that are going to be sent out that are a direct result of night actions. Your dead your recruited would occur before the start of day and should be treated like such. Giving out PM's that occur in the timeline (after the day starts) which will happen when both of us are asleep is understandable. Giving out Mod EOD pm's is handing a huge advantage to scum. Leading to significant potential unbalancing issues. I am of the firm opinion that any night pm's are off limits to the evesdropper. But yes start of day when ever that occurs are totally on limits.

I do not blame Gnaw for trying to exploit his ability to the maximum effect. But we have to keep in mind the balance that we worked out and giving town a potential night and day finder is not on the balance sheet at least not on mine.

V

Okay, when you put it that way, I agree with you. I will retract my ruling when I get to my house and on a computer, or you can take care of it.

I will take care of it.

V