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Mafia 102 Spoiler Thread Timelords 2: The Rebellion

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 01:21 PM

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 01:21 PM

Path-Shaper - wishbone

Mafia Manager - sonic

Aranatha - carrier
Ay Estos - boil
Barghast - eternal
Eloth - meteor
Fener - bland
Gait - giraffe
Karosis - abyss
Kessobahn - steam
Merrid - fraught
Nimander Golit - gauntlet
Omtose - beautiful
Sheltatha Lore - grant
Sorrit - birds
Tennes - mineral
Tulas Shorn - wrestler

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 01:22 PM

Aranatha - Lady Mille - Tapper
Ay Estos - Lady Aout - Shinrei
Barghast - Lord Verano - Karsa
Eloth - Queen Wednesday - Gnaw
Fener - Lady Epoca - Mentalist
Gait - Sir Thursday - Lizradus
Karosis - Sir January - Ganoes Paran
Kessobahn - Tertian, the Jester - The Dude
Merrid - Lady Ete - Messremb
Nimander Golit - Lady November - Knucklehead
Omtose - Lord Eternidad - BAD
Sheltatha Lore - Lord Milenio - Emperor Magus
Sorrit - Lord Augusto - Gust Hubb
Tennes - Mister Monday - Lady Bliss
Tulas Shorn - King Sunday - Khellendros

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 01:23 PM

Town

Timelord

You are King Sunday, the Timelord.

You have power over time. You have 4 hours per member of your court in your stockpile.

The members of your court are Sir Thursday, Mister Monday, Lady Wednesday, …

To manipulate time, you must submit an action by replying to this Role PM. You must quote a post between Path-Shaper's most recent update and your action submission (Path-Shaper's most recent update may be used) which will be used as the base time, and tell me how many minutes or hours you would like to move time from that post, whether you would like to move it forward or backward, and from which member of your court’s stockpile you would like to draw from. PS will confirm that your action was successful and will update your stockpile.

When you reverse time: If a lynch or death has occured and you reverse time to before the lynch or death occured, the lynch or death will be reversed, however any votes placed will remain placed unless you move time back to before the vote was placed.

When you move time forward: You may move it to end a day before a lynch takes place.

When you manipulate time, it will be announced on thread as follows:

“Time has been moved forward/backward.”

This will be followed with a regular Path-Shaper time and vote update.

Once per game, you may have me broadcast a message on thread. You may say absolutely anything you want in this broadcast. It will be broadcast as follows:

“________, the Timelord, would like the members of his court to know the following: ______”

Lady Wednesday is your wife, so you have a lover connection with her. You may have off thread communications with her in a PM that I have opened for you.

You cannot be recruited.



Vigilante

You are Sir Thursday, the Vigilante. You are a member of King Sunday, the Timelord's court.

Once per game, you may perform a night kill. Nights are instant, so please be sure to provide a provisional if you would like to use your ability. If a Timelord moves time back to before your ability was used, your night kill will be reverse and you may use your ability again.


Guard

You are Mister Monday, the Guard. You are a member of King Sunday, the Timelord's court.

Every day, you may provide a target that will be guarded during either the upcoming night cycle or the next day cycle. You must inform me which player you would like to guard, and whether you would like to guard them during the night cycle or the following day cycle. Nights are instant, so please be sure to submit provisionals. You will not be informed whether or not your Guard was successful.


Eavesdropper

You are Queen Wednesday, the Eavesdropper. You are a member of King Sunday, the Timelord’s court.

As you are King Sunday’s wife, you have a lover connection with him. You may have off thread communications with him in a PM that I have opened for you.

You may provide two half hour periods during the next day cycle during which you will eavesdrop on one player. These half hour periods may be consecutive or not. All off thread communications (lover conversations, communications with Path-Shaper) made by your targeted player during those half hour periods will be provided to you at the end of the day cycle. HOWEVER, if you choose to eavesdrop, you will not be allowed to post in the lover thread during the day cycle that you use your ability.

If you post in the lover conversation during a day you have chosen to eavesdrop, you will be considered as guarded and will not receive your Eavesdrop conversations. If you do this a second time, you will be mod-killed.



Ninja Jester

You are Tertian, the Jester. You are a member of King Sunday, the Timelord’s court.

King Sunday is _______.

You are very dedicated to your liege. If you are targeted by the recruiter, he will be told that you have been recruited, but you will remain in the town faction, making you, essentially, a town symp. This will also allow you to use the following ability.

Once per game, after a recruit attempt has been made on you, you may grab a player and throw them and yourself out a window to their and your death. To activate this ability, you must say the following on thread:

“<alt name>, j’accuse!”

Should a Timelord move time backward to before this ability was used, you and your target will be brought back to life and you will be able to use the ability again.



Roleless Innocent

You are _______ the Duke/Dutchess of _________, a roleless innocent. You are a member of King Sunday, the Timelord's court.

• Lord Milenio, the Duke of Millenium
• Lady Mille, the Dutchess of Millenium
• Lord Augusto, the Duke of August
• Lady Aout, the Dutchess of August
• Lord Eternidad, the Duke of Epoch
• Lady Epoca, the Dutchess of Epoch
• Lord Verano, the Duke of Summer
• Lady Ete of the House of Summer
• Lord Hora, the Duke of Day
• Lady Dia, the Dutchess of Day
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Posted 25 May 2013 - 01:23 PM

Scum

Timelord

You are Sir January, the rebel Timelord.

You have power over time. You have 4 hours per member of your court in your stockpile.

The current members of your court are Lady November.

To manipulate time, you must submit an action by replying to this Role PM. You must quote a post between Path-Shaper's most recent update and your action submission (Path-Shaper's most recent update may be used) which will be used as the base time, and tell me how many minutes or hours you would like to move time from that post, whether you would like to move it forward or backward, and from which member of your court’s stockpile you would like to draw from. PS will confirm that your action was successful and will update your stockpile. Your stockpile will also be updated by PS anytime your court grows.

When you reverse time: If a lynch or death has occured and you reverse time to before the lynch or death occured, the lynch or death will be reversed, however any votes placed will remain placed unless you move time back to before the vote was placed.

When you move time forward: You may move it to end a day before a lynch takes place.

When you manipulate time, it will be announced on thread as follows:

“Time has been moved forward/backward.”

This will be followed with a regular Path-Shaper time and vote update.

Once per game, you may have me broadcast a message on thread. You may say absolutely anything you want in this broadcast. It will be broadcast as follows:

“________, the Timelord, would like the members of his court to know the following: ______”

You and Lady November have teamed up to bring down King Sunday’s rule, so you have a lover connection. You may have off thread communications with her in a PM that I have opened for you.

Recruiter

You are Lady November, the rebel Recruiter.

Once per night, you may attempt to recruit a member of King Sunday’s court to the rebel cause. If you recruit a roled town, their abilities will transfer over with them. Nights are instant, so please be sure to provide provisionals.

You and Sir January have teamed up to bring down King Sunday’s rule, so you have a lover connection. You may have off thread communications with him in a PM that I have opened for you.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 02:23 PM

Player Status

Aranatha - Lady Mille - Tapper
Ay Estos - Lady Aout - Shinrei
Barghast - Lord Verano - Karsa Modkilled Day 1
Eloth - Queen Wednesday - Gnaw
Fener - Lady Epoca - Mentalist
Gait - Sir Thursday - Lizradus
Karosis - Sir January - Ganoes Paran
Kessobahn - Tertian, the Jester - The Dude
Merrid - Lady Ete - Messremb
Nimander Golit - Lady November - Knucklehead
Omtose - Lord Eternidad - BAD
Sheltatha Lore - Lord Milenio - Emperor Magus
Sorrit - Lord Augusto - Gust Hubb
Tennes - Mister Monday - Lady Bliss
Tulas Shorn - King Sunday - Khellendros



Current Teams

Day 1

Town

Tulas Shorn - King Sunday - Khellendros
Eloth - Queen Wednesday - Gnaw
Tennes - Mister Monday - Lady Bliss
Gait - Sir Thursday - Lizradus
Kessobahn - Tertian, the Jester - The Dude

Sheltatha Lore - Lord Milenio - Emperor Magus
Aranatha - Lady Mille - Tapper
Sorrit - Lord Augusto - Gust Hubb
Ay Estos - Lady Aout - Shinrei
Barghast - Lord Verano - Karsa
Merrid - Lady Ete - Messremb
Fener - Lady Epoca - Mentalist
Omtose - Lord Eternidad - BAD

Scum

Karosis - Sir January - Ganoes Paran
Nimander Golit - Lady November - Knucklehead


Day 2

Town

Tulas Shorn - King Sunday - Khellendros
Eloth - Queen Wednesday - Gnaw
Tennes - Mister Monday - Lady Bliss
Gait - Sir Thursday - Lizradus
Kessobahn - Tertian, the Jester - The Dude

Aranatha - Lady Mille - Tapper
Sorrit - Lord Augusto - Gust Hubb
Ay Estos - Lady Aout - Shinrei
Merrid - Lady Ete - Messremb
Fener - Lady Epoca - Mentalist
Omtose - Lord Eternidad - BAD

Scum

Karosis - Sir January - Ganoes Paran
Nimander Golit - Lady November - Knucklehead


Night Resolutions

Night 1

Town

Tennes (Mister Monday - Guard) - Night guard Nimander, if lynched, Ay Estos.
Gait (Sir Thursday - Vigilante) - No Action.
Eloth (Queen Wednesday - Eavesdropper) - Eavesdrop on Nimander from 36-35.5, and 29-28.5)
Kessobahn (Tertian, the Jester - Ninja Jester) - N/A

Scum

Nimander Golit (Lady November - Recruiter) - Recruit Aranatha


Night 2

Town

Tennes (Mister Monday - Guard) - Guard Karosis, if lynched Nimander
Gait (Sir Thursday - Vigilante) -
Eloth (Queen Wednesday - Eavesdropper) - No Eavesdropping for Day 3
Kessobahn (Tertian, the Jester - Ninja Jester) - N/A

Scum

Nimander Golit (Lady November - Recruiter) - Recruit Aranatha

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 30 May 2013 - 04:17 PM

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 02:26 PM

Initial thoughts re: roles...

From Karosis/Tatts:

Karosis, on 27 May 2013 - 07:40 AM, said:

Oh dear. After such a horrific game you give me responsibility! I only have a phone today but I'm online when normal life resumes tomorrow.

I am going to be up there with my post count. Traditionally leaders may want to stay low. We'll see how that plays out.

I'm looking forward to your game.

I predict Tapper will win if he is playing.



Sorry man, that's the way the list randomizer ended!

Besides, I don't think it will be that bad. I have hopes that you'll at least USE the Timelord abilities, rather than horde all your time like the Timelords did in the last game.

From Merrid/Messremb:

Merrid, on 27 May 2013 - 10:31 AM, said:

I'm a lady, don't you know?



Merrid, on 27 May 2013 - 11:05 AM, said:

Hah, and I'm not even the full Lady am I? I'm just the Lord of Summers bit of strumpet! Oh, he deserves lynching for that.

Odds on the Fener, Boar of Summer being Lord Summer and Tennes Lord Day? Mafia would never be that blatant would it...

Would it?


From Aranatha / Tapper:

Aranatha, on 27 May 2013 - 07:22 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 25 May 2013 - 01:40 PM, said:

You are Lady Mille the Dutchess of Millenium, a roleless innocent. You are a member of King Sunday, the Timelord's court.


coolio.



From Eloth/Gnaw:

Eloth, on 27 May 2013 - 01:58 AM, said:

Path-Shaper said:

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You are Queen Wednesday, the Eavesdropper. You are a member of King Sunday, the Timelord's court.

As you are King Sunday's wife, you have a lover connection with him. You may have off thread communications with him in a PM that I have opened for you.

You may provide two half hour periods during the next day cycle during which you will eavesdrop on one player. These half hour periods may be consecutive or not. All off thread communications (lover conversations, communications with Path-Shaper) made by your targeted player during those half hour periods will be provided to you at the end of the day cycle. HOWEVER, if you choose to eavesdrop, you will not be allowed to post in the lover thread during the day cycle that you use your ability.

If you post in the lover conversation during a day you have chosen to eavesdrop, you will be considered as guarded and will not receive your Eavesdrop conversations. If you do this a second time, you will be mod-killed.


Interesting.
Does time period have to be "between 3:00 and 3:30" or can they be conditional?
  • The 30 minutes following a player hitting L-3



You have to choose certain times during the following day.

I.E. From 36 hours to 35 hours 30 minutes remaining, and from 10 hours 15 minutes to 9 hours 45 minutes remaining.

Eloth, on 27 May 2013 - 02:04 AM, said:

May King Sunday and I set up code words that I would post into the game thread?
Am I allowed to read the lover connection on days I eavesdrop?


Yes you may, and yes you can, but neither of you are allowed to post in it.

From Fener/Mentalist:

Fener, on 27 May 2013 - 02:14 AM, said:

oh god. Why the warpig?

and RI to boot... welp, at least I won't fuck up as bad as the last TL game.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 08:34 PM

From Eloth/Gnaw:

Eloth, on 27 May 2013 - 08:23 PM, said:

Path-Shaper said:

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You have to choose certain times during the following day.

I.E. From 36 hours to 35 hours 30 minutes remaining, and from 10 hours 15 minutes to 9 hours 45 minutes remaining.


Ok. Now for the million dollar's worth of fun question:
On Day 1 I decide to spy on Merrid Day 2 at
  • 36 hours and 35 hours 30 minutes
  • 14 hours 30 minutes to 14 hours. (this one is irrelevant to the question.)
There are generally more people online following lynch and night resolution so more chattering to eavesdrop on. If King Sunday at 35 hours 29 minutes remaining puts an order in to reverse time to 36 hours remaining, does my eavesdropping work again? I.e. will I get an hour's worth of messages from that time period?

I have a oouple more questions along this line as well as follow ups based on your answer, may I ask those questions in the lover connection? Since the questions are about our combined talents, it would save a fuck of a lot of time and effort on your part as well as ours. 'Cause I'm starting to get several ideas about manipulating time in short intervals. :p


Hmmm, that's a very interesting question and I hadn't really thought it through that way. Given that you have no direct control over your Timelord's actions, you would be given the conversations happening during that 30 minutes, and if the TL reverses to before the 30 minutes have happened, and does so before you are given the conversations, then you will receive the additional 30 minutes of conversation.

HOWEVER, if Day times out and you have been given your conversations, your action will be considered as having been fulfulled, so you will not be given additional sections of conversation. So it would work for the example you gave above, but not if, say, you asked to Eavesdrop during the last half hour of the day, and the TL reversed to before that last half hour after the Day has timed out.

As for questions regarding your roles and abilities, they should always be asked in the Role PM, and then paraphrased in the lover convo. My replying to questions in the lover conversation regarding role mechanics would sort of make the 'no copying PM' rule obsolete.



From Karosis/Tatts:

Karosis, on 27 May 2013 - 05:16 PM, said:

Can I move time to start game early? Without posting I could create some wisdom. As by wisdom I meant Wifom stupid phone.


Karosis, on 27 May 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

7 people have posted. If the last wasn't nimander I would've moved time forward 10 minutes. That would have created some pressure or actions pointed at him. So I'm waiting for someone else to post.


No, the game mechanics are not in effect until the game has actually started. We are starting the game late because there are people in US and UK who have a stat holiday today. It wouldn't be fair to them if we let someone start the game early, even if it would be using up your time stock.

That being said, if you wish to advance the timer as soon as the game starts, for example, you're welcome to submit that as an action.

Karosis, on 27 May 2013 - 08:36 PM, said:

Will I be notified when I have more time? Ie successful recruit


Given that you have a lover conversation with your recruiter partner, there is no point in hiding recruits from you.

Your stockpile will be updated as people are recruited.


Nimander Golit / Knucklehead (M45) initial reaction:

Nimander Golit, on 27 May 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 25 May 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

You are Lady November, the rebel Recruiter.

Once per night, you may attempt to recruit a member of King Sunday’s court to the rebel cause. If you recruit a roled town, their abilities will transfer over with them. Nights are instant, so please be sure to provide provisionals.

You and Sir January have teamed up to bring down King Sunday’s rule, so you have a lover connection. You may have off thread communications with him in a PM that I have opened for you.


Sick! My birthday is in November!



Nimander Golit, on 27 May 2013 - 04:45 PM, said:

Also, boss as fuck avatar 0.o

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 08:36 PM

Rebels conversation:

Nimander Golit, on 27 May 2013 - 04:47 PM, said:

Sir January, can you hear me? I'm told we're in cahoots! Tis a pleasure to be endeavoring on this scummy adventure with you.



Karosis, on 27 May 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

I hear you. Recruit them well my friend. I see you are already posting



Nimander Golit, on 27 May 2013 - 05:43 PM, said:

I predict a bit of a grudge against low posters after last game. I want to be seen early so I can claim I contributed.



Karosis, on 27 May 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

Yeah, I plan to have a high post count. Not the highest though, don't fall into the"get yourself lynched on day one routine" :p

How do you plan on picking potential recruits?

I have 4 hours per person in our team to manipulate. So at the moment we have 4 hours. A successful recruit gains us another 4 hours, I think.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 08:49 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 May 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

From Eloth/Gnaw:

Eloth, on 27 May 2013 - 08:23 PM, said:

Path-Shaper said:

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You have to choose certain times during the following day.

I.E. From 36 hours to 35 hours 30 minutes remaining, and from 10 hours 15 minutes to 9 hours 45 minutes remaining.


Ok. Now for the million dollar's worth of fun question:
On Day 1 I decide to spy on Merrid Day 2 at
  • 36 hours and 35 hours 30 minutes
  • 14 hours 30 minutes to 14 hours. (this one is irrelevant to the question.)
There are generally more people online following lynch and night resolution so more chattering to eavesdrop on. If King Sunday at 35 hours 29 minutes remaining puts an order in to reverse time to 36 hours remaining, does my eavesdropping work again? I.e. will I get an hour's worth of messages from that time period?

I have a oouple more questions along this line as well as follow ups based on your answer, may I ask those questions in the lover connection? Since the questions are about our combined talents, it would save a fuck of a lot of time and effort on your part as well as ours. 'Cause I'm starting to get several ideas about manipulating time in short intervals. :p


Hmmm, that's a very interesting question and I hadn't really thought it through that way. Given that you have no direct control over your Timelord's actions, you would be given the conversations happening during that 30 minutes, and if the TL reverses to before the 30 minutes have happened, and does so before you are given the conversations, then you will receive the additional 30 minutes of conversation.

HOWEVER, if Day times out and you have been given your conversations, your action will be considered as having been fulfulled, so you will not be given additional sections of conversation. So it would work for the example you gave above, but not if, say, you asked to Eavesdrop during the last half hour of the day, and the TL reversed to before that last half hour after the Day has timed out.

As for questions regarding your roles and abilities, they should always be asked in the Role PM, and then paraphrased in the lover convo. My replying to questions in the lover conversation regarding role mechanics would sort of make the 'no copying PM' rule obsolete.


I am really excited to see how this works out for them. Potential for them to get lots of information if they coordinate this well.

VENGE - in case you have to resolve an end of day/night, make sure you note my response above, please!
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 10:26 PM

More Eloth/Gnaw trying to figure out the limitations of his role:

Eloth, on 27 May 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

Path-Shaper said:

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Eloth said:

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Path-Shaper said:

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You have to choose certain times during the following day.

I.E. From 36 hours to 35 hours 30 minutes remaining, and from 10 hours 15 minutes to 9 hours 45 minutes remaining.


Ok. Now for the million dollar's worth of fun question:
On Day 1 I decide to spy on Merrid Day 2 at
  • 36 hours and 35 hours 30 minutes
  • 14 hours 30 minutes to 14 hours. (this one is irrelevant to the question.)
There are generally more people online following lynch and night resolution so more chattering to eavesdrop on. If King Sunday at 35 hours 29 minutes remaining puts an order in to reverse time to 36 hours remaining, does my eavesdropping work again? I.e. will I get an hour's worth of messages from that time period?

I have a oouple more questions along this line as well as follow ups based on your answer, may I ask those questions in the lover connection? Since the questions are about our combined talents, it would save a fuck of a lot of time and effort on your part as well as ours. 'Cause I'm starting to get several ideas about manipulating time in short intervals. :p


Hmmm, that's a very interesting question and I hadn't really thought it through that way. Given that you have no direct control over your Timelord's actions, you would be given the conversations happening during that 30 minutes, and if the TL reverses to before the 30 minutes have happened, and does so before you are given the conversations, then you will receive the additional 30 minutes of conversation.

HOWEVER, if Day times out and you have been given your conversations, your action will be considered as having been fulfulled, so you will not be given additional sections of conversation. So it would work for the example you gave above, but not if, say, you asked to Eavesdrop during the last half hour of the day, and the TL reversed to before that last half hour after the Day has timed out.

As for questions regarding your roles and abilities, they should always be asked in the Role PM, and then paraphrased in the lover convo. My replying to questions in the lover conversation regarding role mechanics would sort of make the 'no copying PM' rule obsolete.


Ok. Next question:
It's lynch time Day 2. I've submitted my Day 3 to be "spy on Aranatha at times X and Y. Karosis is lynched ending day. I get my batch of Merrid's messages and it turns out that Barghast might be a better choice to spy on. I drop the code word that tells Tulas to reverse time to 5 minutes before lynch. He does, you do, I submit the order to spy on Barghast.
What happens?
Variations could include backing up so that I can submit a no spy order so that Day 3 I can use the lover convo.
I do wish you'd re-consider the negative on an order such as:
Spy on Merrid at
  • 36 hours to 35.5 hours
  • The 30 minute period following a vote that puts a player at L-3 or at 8 hours to 7.5 hours



Okay, so let's say the day you give the order is Day 1, and the Day you want to spy is Day 2.

As Day 2 has not ended, the action is not considered to be completed, so yes, if a TL reverses a lynch to before Day 1 has ended, you can change your Eavesdrop target for Day 2, or even cancel your Eavesdrop orders. As soon as you have received the Eavesdropping results, the action is considered completed, and cannot be reversed.

And sorry re: the 'when player is at L-3' but provisionals like those are not usually accepted, and allowing this would make what I consider to potentially be a high information role (specially with your lover link to the TL) a bit too powerful when taken in consideration with the rest of the town roles in play.

I do, however, really like that you're thinking about how to get the best out of this role. You have already thought of things I hadn't thought of when I was making the role work for my game, and that makes me happy! Hopefully the Timelords come up with creative ways to use their roles too!
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Posted 28 May 2013 - 01:10 AM

Eloth/Gnaw gave me the idea for the Eavesdropper, but also the idea for the Ninja Jester (though Venge and I refined it a little to fit the game):

Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 12:33 AM, said:

Path-Shaper said:

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Yep


Well that sucks. It also makes me sad. That sorta lowers the chances that the "reactionary vigilante" part of my idea is in play. Le sigh.



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Posted 28 May 2013 - 01:40 PM

Tulas Shorn / Khell comments:

Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 12:20 AM, said:

Ok, so I have to specify which member of my court I want to take time from?

Does that mean that if they get recruited or lynched, I no longer have access to whatever amount of time they had associated with them?


Yes on both counts.


Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 12:37 AM, said:

I see. So I suppose the upside is that it acts as a pseudo-finder ability of sorts, in that I will know which roles have been recruited if I no longer have access to their time. But will I only find this out if I try to use time from them and it fails, or will you inform me straight off that that time is no longer accessible?

If it's the former, I suppose what I could do is each day take one minute of time from each role, and see which ones (if any) fail.


Your stockpile will be updated as people are recruited.


A provisional action from Nimander Golit / Knucklehead:

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 03:16 AM, said:

Provisional recruitment on Eloth


It's gonna be pretty funny, but shitty, for town if he doesn't end up changing this before Day times out! Heh.


An initial couple of comments from Sheltatha Lore / EM about his role & strategy:

Sheltatha Lore, on 27 May 2013 - 01:17 AM, said:

aww. I really wanted to be roled this game. :thumbsup:
well, no matter. I can focus on making life hell for GP and Brujah . now, I only have to alt them.


Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 05:38 AM, said:

First target, Ganoes Paran!
I just wonder where the hell he is, He should be back from his anniversary trip and spamming the thread up right now.
Brujah is a little more elusive, but I'm positive I can at least alt him.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 01:42 PM

Rebels conversation:

Karosis, on 27 May 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

I'm going to use the time to promote discussion, hopefully frame people.



Nimander Golit, on 27 May 2013 - 10:54 PM, said:

I'm gonna take my time deciding on a recruit. I want to get someone useful in the thread. Someone who stands out early. When you say you have so many hours do you mean you get to add time to the game day? And, I guess the biggest question, do you have nk power?



Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 02:22 AM, said:

So I'm not posting on thread anymore until the game begins in earnest but I'll still be following closely on my phone. I'm gonna give P-S my provisional before I pass out, probably on one of the other dragon avatars if nobody stands out. I'll pick a name out of a hat if necessary. Just in the unlikely event of a speed lynch while I'm sleeping off the hangover. Damn, I'm wordy when I drink. Peace.



Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 05:37 AM, said:

I do not have a NK.

I can add and take away. I never thought I'd say that.



Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 06:29 AM, said:

K cool I put a provision on Eloth crash time gnite



Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:

I'm not asleep, but going to pretend to be for the next 6 hours. Not much discussion goes down between 8am and 1pm GMT. I don't want to stand out and would prefer to hide amongst the people that are actually posting. So after 1pm i'll become active. My last post was at 6:45am or something, and I said I was going to bed.



Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 07:15 AM, said:

He only has one post, How about Sheltatha? Or are you wanting your first recruit to be opposite to what you are? That would point fingers towards the higher posters. Obviously it is only a provisional so we'll wait and see.



Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 07:44 AM, said:

I'd like Aranatha on our team :thumbsup:



Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 01:22 PM, said:

See, Arantha although wrong here, deserves to be on our team.



View PostAranatha, on 28 May 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

View PostMerrid, on 28 May 2013 - 01:14 PM, said:

View PostFener, on 28 May 2013 - 01:03 PM, said:

I did not read the OP. But I did read the game scene.

It would appear we are looking for 2 big scum this time around. and their job is to "convince" other Major Houses to support them. So, not a straight -up faction game nad not a straight-up town v scum either.


Paired TL and recruiter. Thoughts on if off thread comms or signalling?

Oh and it is HOIFOY, not HOYFOY


Since recruits know the recruiter, chances of fuck-ups in that direction seem minimal.
Since CF is name but not alignment, the TLs will be in the dark concerning the alignment of whomever they bring back.
It would be a massive advantage for the scum one to know his recruits through off thread comms.
So I judge that unlikely. Instead, I think they know each other's alt, or at the least the TL knows the recruiter, maybe not vice versa.



Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

I want to fuck around a little with time. What do you think? Rewind time to before my vote?

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 02:05 PM

Blend are you using Mafia Manager? If so what is the password.
How many fucking people do I have to hammer in order to get that across.
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Posted 28 May 2013 - 02:09 PM

Ay Estos, on 28 May 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

You know I'm a Lady and a Duchess.

Typecasting!



Question from Karosis

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

I am so tempted to use that vote count to take my vote off Barghast. Tempted.


Question, if I decide to rewind the clock to before my post does the time go from now or your post? So say in an hour if you don't have a post and I quote your last post will you just send it back 15 minutes from there or would it be an hour and 15?


I believe that it would be an hour and 15 but I will double check with blend.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 02:10 PM

Rebels conversation

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

I'm awake, gonna catch up on the thread. Eloth is the name that came out of the hat :thumbsup:



Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

Good Morning.



Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

OK. I'm gonna let you handle the time shifting as you wish until I see it in action a couple times. Aranatha speaks well but I want to take a little time to see if he attracts positive or negative attention.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 02:19 PM

Ok so it doesn't look like you created a MM so I went ahead and did that. I will set it up. The password is the same as SH.
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Posted 28 May 2013 - 02:45 PM

King & Queen Lover conversation:

Eloth, on 27 May 2013 - 04:08 PM, said:

"The time has come," the Walrus said,
"To talk of many things:
Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
Of cabbages—and kings—
And why the sea is boiling hot—
And whether pigs have wings."

We need to strategize. Gnaw here btw. I know only you. I can eavesdrop twice a day on somebody but can't talk in here on days I'm snooping. So we need to set up some codes to use in thread.



Eloth, on 27 May 2013 - 08:45 PM, said:

Path-Shaper said:

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Hey guys, I just want to make it clear that you can discuss how to use your Actions in this thread, but please submit your official actions via your Role PMs. Actions submitted via this lover conversation will not be considered.


Oh goodie. I think we can has us some fun my liege.



Tulas Shorn, on 27 May 2013 - 10:47 PM, said:

Hey hey Gnaw, it's Khell. When I said I wanted to be on the Sunday team again, this is not quite what I meant. This is way too much responsibility for one of my nature.

I won't be playing until about 15 hours from now. I had a very enjoyable Bank Holiday weekend, and I am now entering recovery mode. I do have a question though, lady wife o' mine. Can you be recruited?



Eloth, on 27 May 2013 - 11:56 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn said:

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Hey hey Gnaw, it's Khell. When I said I wanted to be on the Sunday team again, this is not quite what I meant. This is way too much responsibility for one of my nature.

I won't be playing until about 15 hours from now. I had a very enjoyable Bank Holiday weekend, and I am now entering recovery mode. I do have a question though, lady wife o' mine. Can you be recruited?


Haha. Go make move in Eclipse dammit.
Don't know. I see no "you cannot be recruited" in the role PM
I've got some ideas about the whole time shifting thing. Think small, not big. For example the first time there is a lynch where somebody posts after the hammer vote but before PS does the lynch scene. As soon as day starts immediately rewind it. Cost: 15 minutes. Payoff: confuse the total fuck out of the opposition.
And we're going to need a good code system for the days we can't use this conversation. (Blend gave the OK on using codes.)



Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 12:15 AM, said:

Hmm, I think that probably means you can be potentially recruited. So I probably shouldn't tell you everything I know and/or don't know (sorry about that) - just in case. Don't worry, I'll involve you in all the major decisions.

In the first game, the time mechanic was used extremely sparingly. So to make up for that, I plan to use it all the time, usually in small doses as you suggest. I plan to use it both tactically and to just fuck around :thumbsup:


So it seems we have two scum to find initially, but that's gonna grow. I don't know how often they can recruit (it might depend on who they target). Especially as we'll probably be lynching a lot of innos to begin with (unless we suddenly become good at this game :p ).

Your eavesdropping ability - is that on like lover convos, or PMs to PS, or what? And when you say you can do it twice a day, do you mean on two different people, or twice on the same person?



Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 12:16 AM, said:

You know the best part of you being Sunday? It means that this isn't you:

Gait said:

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Are you trying to pull a HOIFOY? good job so far.


HiddenOne is going to kill me if that catches on.
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Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 12:42 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn said:

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Hmm, I think that probably means you can be potentially recruited. So I probably shouldn't tell you everything I know and/or don't know (sorry about that) - just in case. Don't worry, I'll involve you in all the major decisions.

In the first game, the time mechanic was used extremely sparingly. So to make up for that, I plan to use it all the time, usually in small doses as you suggest. I plan to use it both tactically and to just fuck around :p


So it seems we have two scum to find initially, but that's gonna grow. I don't know how often they can recruit (it might depend on who they target). Especially as we'll probably be lynching a lot of innos to begin with (unless we suddenly become good at this game :p ).

Your eavesdropping ability - is that on like lover convos, or PMs to PS, or what? And when you say you can do it twice a day, do you mean on two different people, or twice on the same person?


I asked Blend about the recruited thing. I have a small bit of hope that the answer will be no. Can't say though.

Twice a day. One person. I have to give target for Day 2 before Day 1 ends. The times have to be formatted:
Spy on Merrid at the following time periods
  • 36 hours remaining to 35.5 hours remaining.
  • 8 hours to 7.5 hours
I don't get the results until Day 2 ends. Which means I have to make me Day 3 spy or not and target before reading the day 2 results.
I get all off thread communications the target sends or receives. Now here is a fun part: take the first 30 minutes of the day. I'm eavesdropping. At 35 hours 30 minutes remaining, you back time up 30 minutes. I get an hours worth out of that one. Confirmed with Blend. That'd be a good one for a day ending during peak posting times. And the first time you do it, it'll spread FOUD; it will make no sense to anyone.
(Blend says I can be recruited.)



Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 12:48 AM, said:

We are allowed to read this conversation on days I'm spying, just can't post here.
So we can build a pretty extensive cipher list



Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 12:51 AM, said:

One priority is a word you can use that tells me to abstain from spying the next day because you need to talk to me in this conversation.



Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 01:00 AM, said:

Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 12:42 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn said:

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Hmm, I think that probably means you can be potentially recruited. So I probably shouldn't tell you everything I know and/or don't know (sorry about that) - just in case. Don't worry, I'll involve you in all the major decisions.

In the first game, the time mechanic was used extremely sparingly. So to make up for that, I plan to use it all the time, usually in small doses as you suggest. I plan to use it both tactically and to just fuck around :p


So it seems we have two scum to find initially, but that's gonna grow. I don't know how often they can recruit (it might depend on who they target). Especially as we'll probably be lynching a lot of innos to begin with (unless we suddenly become good at this game :p ).

Your eavesdropping ability - is that on like lover convos, or PMs to PS, or what? And when you say you can do it twice a day, do you mean on two different people, or twice on the same person?


I asked Blend about the recruited thing. I have a small bit of hope that the answer will be no. Can't say though.

Twice a day. One person. I have to give target for Day 2 before Day 1 ends. The times have to be formatted:
Spy on Merrid at the following time periods
  • 36 hours remaining to 35.5 hours remaining.
  • 8 hours to 7.5 hours
I don't get the results until Day 2 ends. Which means I have to make me Day 3 spy or not and target before reading the day 2 results.
I get all off thread communications the target sends or receives. Now here is a fun part: take the first 30 minutes of the day. I'm eavesdropping. At 35 hours 30 minutes remaining, you back time up 30 minutes. I get an hours worth out of that one. Confirmed with Blend. That'd be a good one for a day ending during peak posting times. And the first time you do it, it'll spread FOUD; it will make no sense to anyone.
(Blend says I can be recruited.)



Aaah, that is extremely interesting. So basically our roles are best utilised with plenty of coordination between the two of us (good thing we're both spammy posters then :p ). So yes you're right, codes would be imperative, so that you can, for example, let me know if you want me to rewind time so that you can continue to snoop on someone.

Hmm, but then again, how will you know if you require more time if you don't get any results until day's end? You won't, you'll just have to decide based on your gut feeling about whether someone's worth continuing to snoop on.


Alright, I'm off for the night (I really need sleep). If you come up with a code you want to use, let me know. I'll have a think about what times might be most ideal for initiating eavesdropping. We need to use day 1 to get a fix on everybody's posting times, i.e. the times of the day when they're most likely to be on and messaging.



Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

You idiot! :)
Get PS to delete that and CF'S reply. Gawd, you're not supposed to saboteur before the game starts.
If it stays as is and I don't comment on it, Tatts wil know I'm tied to you in someway.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 02:49 PM

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Question from Karosis

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

I am so tempted to use that vote count to take my vote off Barghast. Tempted.


Question, if I decide to rewind the clock to before my post does the time go from now or your post? So say in an hour if you don't have a post and I quote your last post will you just send it back 15 minutes from there or would it be an hour and 15?


I believe that it would be an hour and 15 but I will double check with blend.

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It would be 15 minutes. The time it costs is the amount of time you want to move the timer from the post you quote, between PS's most recent post, and the most recent post (it doesn't have to PS's post, it can be someone else's).

This is why it's important for PS to post hourly updates or so as much as possible, so that you have to pay in consistent chunks of time to move it.
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