[Path-Shaper]

It is now day 5. 30 hours 28 minutes remaining.

6 players still alive: Anthras, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Ruse, Spite, Trake

4 votes to lynch, 3 to go to night.

1 vote Pallid: Trake

Players not voted: Anthras, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Ruse, Spite 

[Anthras]

Ruse, on 21 May 2013 - 10:04 AM, said:

Denul, on 21 May 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

Waaaahhhh what even is this. Anthras is Kilava's partner because Eldat stalled Kilava's lynch by suggesting it's neccessary?

Also is Anthras' constant defence Kilava really that feasible as a partner suggestion? Are scum as dumb as town this game?


What is this and why am here?

Kilava's lynch train stalled, stopped and went somewhere else. Why do you think it was? The Eldat thing was a stretch. Anthras defending Kilava each time Kilava got heat is not suspicious to you?

Ruse if you're inno then you are perhaps the worst player I've ever seen. I'm done with cases on you. You're obviously a symp, but because you're all over the place it makes things damn near impossible. Pallid or Monok is all I have going for your masters, but as in my earlier posts there isn't a whole lot backing that.

Trake, on 21 May 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Sweet fucking Jesus this game blow serious chuncks. I missed basically 3 straight days and I have as many posts as the remaining bottom 4 players and I am not even the highest poster. Fuck you guys suck ass.

It's too bad there isn't a quality post count, because you and Monok would certainly be the lowest on there. At least when I'm here to play I add to the game instead of acting like a whiny bitch for hours at a time. Your bitching deliberately fucked the game for us. Kilava was clearly town, and yet Ruse somehow managed to push the train. Ruse and Pallid, or Monok. Trake might be scum, but who gives a shit?

Vote Pallid


Ruse pretended to make a case on him, then pushed elsewhere, as he has done all game. It's the best link we have to Ruse.

I'll be here for an hour.

edit: some words floating up there removed "I though"

This post has been edited by Anthras: 21 May 2013 - 11:40 PM

[Pallid]

Ugh, fuck it.

@Trake:

Quote

What are the time requirements?
Having an hour each game phase is far more productive than having one entire day and then no time at all for four days. Having some time to read up and post each 24 or 36 hours is a base requirement in Malazan Mafia.

No, not everyone can be on 24/7. Sorry I'm not sorry.

As for people voting me, can't say I blame you. I look just as scummy as the rest of y'all. I voted Kilava because it was something I hadn't ever followed up on, and it was stuck in my head. Not the best reason, but so far all our reasons have been kinda shit anyways.


For D-day, I'll just be going with not letting people give one sentence input while clearly being around.


vote Monok Ochem


No I will not hammer myself, y'all can vote me to lynch by yourselves if you really want to cuz it's D-day. I'll be back on and off for the rest of the afternoon/evening.

[Anthras]

Remove Vote


Actually reading thoroughly has revealed that there can not be a symp remaining (player numbers...). Still, fuck Ruse.

I'm going to go through this again, while ignoring Ruse entirely.

[Path-Shaper]

It is now day 5. 28 hours 2 minutes remaining.

6 players still alive: Anthras, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Ruse, Spite, Trake

4 votes to lynch, 3 to go to night.

1 vote Pallid: Trake
1 vote Monok Ochem: Pallid

Players not voted: Anthras, Monok Ochem, Ruse, Spite  

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 22 May 2013 - 12:28 AM

[Pallid]

Anthras, on 22 May 2013 - 12:27 AM, said:

Remove Vote


Actually reading thoroughly has revealed that there can not be a symp remaining (player numbers...). Still, fuck Ruse.

I'm going to go through this again, while ignoring Ruse entirely.

I'm sorry, I don't get this? I could see Ruse or Spite filling that role, but I haven't done a re-read with that in mind either, so not super sure on that.

[Anthras]

Path-Shaper, on 21 May 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

Blend, on 09 May 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

This is a pure TMDI:0/1 game. There are 11 RIs, 2 killers and 1 symp. The killers can talk off-thread and kill one player each night.

The town/innocents win when all killers are eliminated.
Scum win when they have a parity or majority of surviving players.

6 players. 3 scum players would be considered parity, no? None have cf'd scum, therefore the symp is gone, and the killers are still around.

[Pallid]

Anthras, on 22 May 2013 - 12:34 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 21 May 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

Blend, on 09 May 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

This is a pure TMDI:0/1 game. There are 11 RIs, 2 killers and 1 symp. The killers can talk off-thread and kill one player each night.

The town/innocents win when all killers are eliminated.
Scum win when they have a parity or majority of surviving players.

6 players. 3 scum players would be considered parity, no? None have cf'd scum, therefore the symp is gone, and the killers are still around.

OH oh, man, I missed that ok. Wow. Oops, my bad, and thanks.

Well that puts a new light on Spite's refusal to hammer, as well as Ruse's behavior. MO's behavior is also the weirdest as always, making this a bit difficult to choose.

[Anthras]

Players alive: Anthras, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Ruse, Spite, Trake

Trake deserves to be lynched for either deliberately ruining the game for town, or because he's scum and ruined the game for town. Spite deserves to be lynched for being too stupid to understand why a self vote would have been the better choice a couple days ago. Ruse deserves a lynch for the flood of crap that he/she has spewed forth. I deserve a lynch for being retarded and not changing my vote to Spite before leaving. Monok deserves a lynch because he's been completely useless in every way imaginable. Pallid might actually not deserve a lynch (besides being among us low-posters), mostly because the only reason to suspect him earlier relied on the belief that Ruse was his symp. As that cannot be the case, Pallid is less deserving of a lynch than everyone here.

edit: font size, less vulgarity

This post has been edited by Anthras: 22 May 2013 - 12:48 AM

[Spite]

I don't know what's worse. Kilava being innocent and his lynch hurting town, or Kilava not being scum and me not feeling the greatest sense of satisfaction I think I could have possibly achieved in mafia. I guess it's still possible he was a symp, which isn't as good as him having been caught as a killer, but it would suffice.

I just got home. I'm going to digest the new information with spaghetti and come back as soon as I come up with another excellent play that seem to be the only kind we are capable of.

[Pallid]

Trake, on 21 May 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Ruse, on 21 May 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:

Trake hammered and knew Kilava would be town. So he could be the symp. Especially after revealing scum.

I am going. I cannot bear the thread at the moment.

Yes I hammered and was pretty certain that Kilava was town. Why because he made sense. He didn't try to strawman anyone and laid out well though out posts. However I had to hammer why because the good of the town out way the single player of town. A lesson that it seems most of you do not know or understand. Kilava understood it. I understand it. The reason that you lynch or self hammer is so that town can move on and focus on finding scum. If spite was a good town player he would have self hammered. Instead he thought and so many of you seem to buy into it that town players objective is to try to live until the end of the game. That is not town's objective. That is scums objective. When you play and think like that you are playing for yourself which is what scum does. Which means that you are helping scum.

^Yeaaaah, this is why I'm tempted to try Spite again. He panicked too and did a meaningless emo self-vote when it really didn't fucking matter.

Other than that, we could just all vote Trake. I mean, that's a tad OMGUS on my part, but he is intentionally throwing the thread with his 'reveal' and his feelings. Plus, he very willingly spear-headed the Thry vote with justifications that Denul was symp - we now know Thyr was inno, and Denul... was not so sympy? Ok, can't confirm the symp thing definitively, but whatever. Denul was inno.

Ugh, I agree a tad too much with Anthras' last post. We all look bad. XD However, I would like to be a tad more optimistic, and maybe when I re-read, or whoever re-reads, we can actually figure shit out, and have a chance.

remove vote

[Anthras]

Honestly, I could go Trake as well. It's one thing to argue that town sucks because we're too stupid to understand that "the reason that you lynch or self hammer is so that town can move on and focus on finding scum," and another to deliberately kill a player that was almost certainly town (Kilava) with several hours on the clock. The Kilava train was not in the same position as the Spite train of the previous day. Trake can play at self-righteousness all he likes, but not taking him to task for his reveal, or his lame argument for the Kilava vote, would further prove Trake's argument that we're all too dumb to understand the game.


Vote Trake


I'm out for the night, and most of tomorrow. I'll be back at around the same time.

[Path-Shaper]

It is now day 5. 24 hours 43 minutes remaining.

6 players still alive: Anthras, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Ruse, Spite, Trake

4 votes to lynch, 3 to go to night.

1 vote Pallid: Trake
1 vote Trake: Anthras

Players not voted: Monok Ochem, Pallid, Ruse, Spite   


Heading to bed, next update in 9ish hours

[Pallid]

Anthras, on 22 May 2013 - 01:34 AM, said:

Honestly, I could go Trake as well. It's one thing to argue that town sucks because we're too stupid to understand that "the reason that you lynch or self hammer is so that town can move on and focus on finding scum," and another to deliberately kill a player that was almost certainly town (Kilava) with several hours on the clock. The Kilava train was not in the same position as the Spite train of the previous day. Trake can play at self-righteousness all he likes, but not taking him to task for his reveal, or his lame argument for the Kilava vote, would further prove Trake's argument that we're all too dumb to understand the game.

Vote Trake


I'm out for the night, and most of tomorrow. I'll be back at around the same time.

Despite not getting a definite read on you, Anthras, you make a good point here. Additionally, going by Trake's own logic for lynching me (and obviously Trake's self-righteousness does partly come from playing well and knowing what he's doing), the rest of his own voting pattern doesn't look so good either. He put down the first vote on Thry on Day 1 and kept it there, didn't vote Day 2, didn't vote Day 3, voted me Day 4 very early on, switched with hours to go to Kilava, and voted me very early today, Day 5. Then he threw a fit, and muddied the thread, despite how oh-so-muddy this thread already was without his help.

Then again, who muddied the thread in the first place? I mean, several of us, sure, we've all clearly been stumbling around since it's D-day without a scum lynch to show for it. But who I can't shake is Ruse. He is one of the big ones that made the thread so hard to read back through - starting from Day 1. I've spent the past hour or two skimming back through, and thinking, and it's so... fucked up. XD I'll vote Trake if others go that way instead, but I'd rather Ruse or Monok.

- Ruse has predominantly been muddying the thread - long ass posts that make no sense (especially the day before, right after I hopped off), arguments/cases that don't follow logically, and pointing in so many directions
- Monok has been posting useless one-liners, instead of taking the 30 min or so they have everyday to "play" to try and at least post something a bit more meaningful
- Trake "revealed."

remove vote


vote Ruse




Lastly, and sort of ridiculously, my gut has been telling me Ruse is town. But my gut has also been horribly wrong this entire game XD ...... yeah that's right, I threw a "vibe" argument in here as well....

[Ruse]

No way would any killer play as I have played. that is why your gut is saying no. as only you and Anthras have discussed who it could be, my top choice for scum partnership is Trake and Monok. Trake came out and said he is a killer and if he is and we don't lynch him, he'll be unbearable. If he isn't then he cost us the game.

[Ruse]

How crazy do you think you'd sound pallid if you spent much of the game talking to yourself, digging up posts from the past and fomenting on them, without an end direction in mind? It all makes sense to me.

[Ruse]

vote Anthras

Had another thought. Trake went awol for 2 days. Anthras has kept up his little posting window. Didn't help us lynch Spite. Thinks Kilava was town. Kilava was definitely symp.

[Ruse]

Spite said he'd say some things but hasn't. Pallid is focused on me. I have nothing on Monok. I mean I think he should be innocent but if he turns out scum then that is a fucking joke.

6 players still alive: Anthras, Monok Ochem, Pallid, Ruse, Spite, Trake

In fact, it is D day. 100% need contribution from people. Yet we have less than 20 hours to go. It's in scums benefit to be quiet. Or let the thread stew.

Remove vote

Any one of you can be scum. So who is more likely to be town.

Trake started off wanting to lynch. He called a signalling vote out and stuck with his guns. last game he did the same thing. He disappeared for two days due to RL. Since he came back he has discussed stuff. He has been vocal. Being vocal at this point is imperative. Did a bad thing with outing himself as a killer. Looked like he was pissed off and thought Kilava was town. If we had lynched a townie at that point it would have been game over. So he tried to draw the kill. He hammered with 12 hours to go. Two days straight has thought Pallid is scum.

Anthras didn't vote when he should have. I think this gave us the extra day. So scum may have wanted to hammer a towni at this stage, which discredits Spite. If Anthras is town though, he could no way have known Spite was 100% scum. He could have accidently not voted. Other than that he has posted when he has had the opportunity. Each day he has posted and voted and this goes in his favour. I don't care that he thinks I'm scummy, this could also point in his favour. What scum would try and create a new case at the end of the day? I've been flipping back and forth between thinking him scum and town.

Pallid was a little active day one but only after being mentioned. Day two and three was pretty quiet. Trake poiinting out that they were on the middle train of each lynch is a bit disturbing. Yet they discussed a couple of things last night when it is important to discuss things.

Spite should be town. I have a nagging doubt in my mind about him, due to Anthras not voting him. I would hope that if Trake was around we would have lynched him. I think we could have lynched Spite and therefore think that the resistance to a Spite lynch was minimal. BEAR IN MIND HERE that I did vote Spite and it did look like he was going to be lynched.

Monok Ochem has been antogonistic all game. Well that is great to survive against night kills, why would scum waste a lynch on a player playing that awful? They'd keep him around. That's great. Now it is D day why is he still doing this? He should not be doing it to avoid a night action at this stage. This is where he should shine. Or at least give us his thoughts.



So who is playing against town's interest today of all days?

pallid made his views known. trake has. Pallid has. Spite hasn't. Monok Hasn't.

Out of Spite and Monok who has played for town? Who has contributed to the game somewhat?

Vote Monok Ochem

[Monok Ochem]

you guys want to eliminate me, that's fine I understand that - if we had another day, I'd vote myself even though I don't like the practice

[Ruse]

Monok Ochem, on 22 May 2013 - 11:41 AM, said:

you guys want to eliminate me, that's fine I understand that - if we had another day, I'd vote myself even though I don't like the practice

So who are you going to vote for and why?