[Phere]

I know there are a lot of these but I was so excited when it "clicked" that I just had to share!
For Kalam, I think Anderson Silva is perfect - he's a big guy but he flows gracefully with deadly precision. He's a treat to watch if you haven't seen any of his UFC bouts, especially the earlier ones.



For Quick Ben, I can't help but think of Giancarlo Esposito (Breaking Bad)...he's thin, meticulous, and intelligent:

[wade]

God damn it. I don't know how to feel how accurate those comparisons are.

[CowboyYojimbo]

Haha, Giancarlo Esposito is damn good. I always pictured something like Lance Reddick.



Kalam, I always saw closer to an Idris Elba type. But make the hair here white, not sure why i visualize that.

This post has been edited by CowboyYojimbo: 26 March 2013 - 12:12 PM

[Spoilsport Stonny]

THose last four are the best suggestions I've seen on this site.

The thing I like about the Anderson Silva suggestion is that he's a great athlete first and that's a gigantic part of what makes Kalam Kalam.

This post has been edited by Spoilsport Stonny: 26 March 2013 - 12:40 PM

[Tattersail_]

I suppose you could use Morgan Freeman for all of the roles.

[Phere]

Spoilsport Stonny, on 26 March 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

THose last four are the best suggestions I've seen on this site.

The thing I like about the Anderson Silva suggestion is that he's a great athlete first and that's a gigantic part of what makes Kalam Kalam.

Thanks I was watching a documentary on Silva and it just hit me. That's f#%@%^ing Kalam! You have to really see him in motion for it to click. He's beautiful to watch - calm and deadly. He might be a little young for Kalam, but just throw a few wrinkles on and bam! Those other two are great suggestions as well. I had been having a hard time visualizing these two - they would morph and shift and shimmer - insubstantial. But now it's set in stone!

[Malaclypse]

Anamaeus from Spartacus for Quick Ben though these others are good too (also, I like Mos Def for QB, or at least as he appears in Hitchhiker's)

For me Kalam has to be dude with cool african name - Mr. Eko from that piece of shit Lost and Adabisi in Oz - more recently, I think he's in GI Joe. Kalam is supposed to be bear-like and radiate menace.

As much as I like Anderson as a fighter, he's too lanky for Kalam and he has that ridiculous squeaky voice.

This post has been edited by Malaclypse: 26 March 2013 - 03:38 PM

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Malaclypse, on 26 March 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

Anamaeus from Spartacus for Quick Ben though these others are good too (also, I like Mos Def for QB, or at least as he appears in Hitchhiker's)

For me Kalam has to be dude with cool african name - Mr. Eko from that piece of shit Lost and Adabisi in Oz - more recently, I think he's in GI Joe. Kalam is supposed to be bear-like and radiate menace.

As much as I like Anderson as a fighter, he's too lanky for Kalam and he has that ridiculous squeaky voice.

Ahh, yes...the voice is startlingly mismatched. We could just make everyone have the Morgan Freeman Voice. Good choices yourself. He is a bit lanky, but still the dude is 200lbs. He's a big guy.

[amphibian]

Anderson could be Dassem, instead.

[Malaclypse]

Dassem is short and has curly hair *shudders*

[amphibian]

Dassem is described as Dal Honese, grey flecked and curly hair cut short and his height is described as such:

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His was a war-riot's build, the muscles lean and sharply defined on his frame. His height was average, though something in his posture made him seem taller."

Anderson is only 6'2", which fairly average for an elite athlete today and is somewhat lanky for his frame, despite being 220ish pounds. But he looms and he's scary athletic. Anderson had curly, short hair before he decided to shave the top hair off and his goatee showed some grey as well recently.

He fits. Especially if you make Karsa someone 7+ feet tall.

[Malaclypse]

Steve has agreed that average height for people of the Malazan Empire would be significantly shorter than that of today - I don't have a reference at the moment but it may be possible to recover one. In any case, I know he said so at some point because it makes abundant sense. Also, I am virtually certain that Dassem was referred to as short somewhere and am definitely looking for that reference. I think that it was stated that Dal Honese are generally short in stature. In any case, I firmly believe he is shorter than (Malazan) average in height. I'll post here again when I have evidence.

[amphibian]

Bro, lemme shoehorn my favorite fighter of all time in a role that won't ever actually exist in peace.

(Actually, digging up concrete, quote-fu descriptions of Dassem's height would be cool.)

[Malaclypse]

amphibian, on 26 March 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

Bro, lemme shoehorn my favorite fighter of all time in a role that won't ever actually exist in peace.

(Actually, digging up concrete, quote-fu descriptions of Dassem's height would be cool.)

Whether or not the role ever exists, Anderson does not suit it, in my opinion. Not in body type, not in demeanor or appearance and certainly not in acting talent.

Camelot is a silly place and we shall not visit.

Next time I speak with Steve I will ask him about Dassem's height and you will have to take my word for it (or not) when I post the results because I can no longer be bothered to scour the pages for such answers.

But first I have to read chapter four of The Fall of Light and get back to him

And yeah, that is cheeky of me but hey, enjoy it while it lasts is what I say

[worry]

I like Esposito and Mos Def suggestions. Whatever else I think of Quick Ben, it's always as someone who'd have a wolfish grin, so those two work. Speaking of actors from David Simon's stable, I might also go with Erik Dellums (Luther Mahoney from Homicide/McNulty's morgue friend on The Wire) as QB. There's a certain silky near-but-not-quite-feminine quality in him that works for me. He might also make a good Tayschrenn, since he's a bit older these days and looks great with longer hair.

This post has been edited by worrywort: 26 March 2013 - 09:08 PM

[Acorn]

I always thought Kalam would be wider than Silva by far. It always refers to him being "surprisingly fast for his size and stronger than any of the other Claws by far" and so forth. I think he even tussled with an Andii muscle to muscle and came out on top...

I never had a particular person, Actor or otherwise, in mind for him...

But......

While we're debating our perception of other characters than the OP intended... Here's what I always visualized Cartharan Crust as.

Spoiler

I know - it's an amazingly accurate depiction of a swarthy sea cap'in. I don't know how I do it.

This post has been edited by Acorn: 27 March 2013 - 07:08 PM

[Malaclypse]

As much as I like Esposito in Breaking Bad, I do not agree with him as QB, at all. Too solemn, staid, boring. QB is edgy, unpredictable.

I'm perfectly happy with the guy from Fringe and Mos Def but Peter Mensah from Spartacus is a step above for me - there's an exoticism he has that the others don't and he has gravitas that the others donot, imo.

Annamaeus

This post has been edited by Malaclypse: 27 March 2013 - 08:52 PM

[Malaclypse]

Malaclypse, on 27 March 2013 - 08:48 PM, said:

As much as I like Esposito in Breaking Bad, I do not agree with him as QB, at all. Too solemn, staid, boring. QB is edgy, unpredictable.

I'm perfectly happy with the guy from Fringe and Mos Def but Peter Mensah from Spartacus is a step above for me - there's an exoticism he has that the others don't and he has gravitas that the others do not, imo. Plus I think he'd be cheaper

Annamaeus

[worry]

I think you're underestimating his range. The dude played Buggin' Out for goodness sake, a total 180 from his BB role. He can play just about anything.

[Malaclypse]

worrywort, on 27 March 2013 - 09:06 PM, said:

I think you're underestimating his range. The dude played Buggin' Out for goodness sake, a total 180 from his BB role. He can play just about anything.

Very possible. I only know him from BB, which I am growing weary of, tbpf. Still, I don't see how he could be better that Annamaeus.