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#661 User is offline   Sorrit 

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:42 AM

View PostSilanah, on 26 February 2013 - 06:37 AM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 26 February 2013 - 06:29 AM, said:

View PostSilanah, on 26 February 2013 - 06:13 AM, said:

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 06:02 AM, said:

(everyone goes "guuuuuwhhwaaaa????")

Actually, I went "guuuuuwhhwaaaa-Choooooooo!!!!!" and filled another tissue with snot.

View PostOsseric, on 26 February 2013 - 06:04 AM, said:

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 05:56 AM, said:

I haven't done the exact math, but I think there's so many CFs now that we definitely have all the role names (unless there's some sort of hidden independent or Parshendi special leader role).

So assuming a symmetrical setup each prince faction has a Prince, a BattalionLord, a BrightLord, an Elite Guard and a Captain. And then there'd be 4 Parshendi left. I don't know for sure that this is how it is, but it'd make sense to me.

If true, that'd mean Thanadar is down to only their Captain and there's only 2 Parshendi left, while Dalinar and Sadeas are each down 2 (including the Sadeas prince)


Exactly what I was about to get at. The initial number speculation of 4-4-4-7 has to be wrong if he factions mirror each other, and they should. So, your numbers appear correct from there.

Based on that, I think we should be hunting the last surviving Parshendi. With PS confirming to Ano (by mistake) that gemhearts have a function earlier, then they could be getting several per day without having to worry about 2/3 highprinces contesting the plateaus.


So rather than hunt the last surviving member of Thanadar, you would rather go after two parshendi? Would this not suggest you are the last Thanadar?


I'm leaning towards agreeing that a battalionlord is responsible for NKs, if that is the case, then what threat is a captain, really? Same principal as what Sorrit is saying. So am I Tharandar? No, and based on your reaction I doubt you are either, so I guess OE did owe you an apology. I'd just rather go after more of a power role.




So since two of the four big boys are dead, and you want to go after big boys, you are not Dalinor or Parshendi. Therefore you are Thanadar or Sadeas. Because you pushed for a Parshendi hunt rather than finishing off Thanadar I think you are the last Thanadar. Therefore to further the interests of my faction:

vote Osserc


But then what about OE's totally random 'reveal,' (aka, hey guys, let's not hunt Thanadar anymore!)? I mean, I'll vote for either actually, even though going after power-players is slightly tempting. Just wondering why one and not the other, especially since there has to be just one Thanadar left.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:43 AM

Ack, nevermind, Silanah, you just answered my question.

Blurgh, I'm tired.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:46 AM

Frankly, Dalinar is now under pressure. The only one absolutely mirrored position leader left is Dalinar, in that sense, I get trying to target Dalinar.

We'll see how the votes develop.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:49 AM

Silanah said:

1361860622[/url]' post='1035032']

Osseric said:

1361860159[/url]' post='1035028']

Silanah said:

1361859195[/url]' post='1035019']

Olar Ethil said:

1361858552[/url]' post='1035013']
(everyone goes "guuuuuwhhwaaaa????")

Actually, I went "guuuuuwhhwaaaa-Choooooooo!!!!!" and filled another tissue with snot.

Osseric said:

1361858674[/url]' post='1035014']

Olar Ethil said:

1361858172[/url]' post='1035010']
I haven't done the exact math, but I think there's so many CFs now that we definitely have all the role names (unless there's some sort of hidden independent or Parshendi special leader role).

So assuming a symmetrical setup each prince faction has a Prince, a BattalionLord, a BrightLord, an Elite Guard and a Captain. And then there'd be 4 Parshendi left. I don't know for sure that this is how it is, but it'd make sense to me.

If true, that'd mean Thanadar is down to only their Captain and there's only 2 Parshendi left, while Dalinar and Sadeas are each down 2 (including the Sadeas prince)


Exactly what I was about to get at. The initial number speculation of 4-4-4-7 has to be wrong if he factions mirror each other, and they should. So, your numbers appear correct from there.

Based on that, I think we should be hunting the last surviving Parshendi. With PS confirming to Ano (by mistake) that gemhearts have a function earlier, then they could be getting several per day without having to worry about 2/3 highprinces contesting the plateaus.


So rather than hunt the last surviving member of Thanadar, you would rather go after two parshendi? Would this not suggest you are the last Thanadar?


I'm leaning towards agreeing that a battalionlord is responsible for NKs, if that is the case, then what threat is a captain, really? Same principal as what Sorrit is saying. So am I Tharandar? No, and based on your reaction I doubt you are either, so I guess OE did owe you an apology. I'd just rather go after more of a power role.




So since two of the four big boys are dead, and you want to go after big boys, you are not Dalinor or Parshendi. Therefore you are Thanadar or Sadeas. Because you pushed for a Parshendi hunt rather than finishing off Thanadar I think you are the last Thanadar. Therefore to further the interests of my faction:

vote Osserc


It's much more likely OE is, with that immediate jump from trying to peg you as Tharandar to trying to out Ano. Unless he got info from elsewhere, the timing is odd. Obviously isn't on Dalinar's faction, so more likely to be Parshendi or Tharandar, either way I wouldn't mind a closer look there even if he gives us more info on the reveal.

But I need to go to bed now, anyway. It's too late here.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:49 AM

View PostSorrit, on 26 February 2013 - 06:43 AM, said:

Ack, nevermind, Silanah, you just answered my question.

Blurgh, I'm tired.


Tired schmired! I am now high on paracetomol, lemsip and Cabernet-Merlot. Pretty soon I'll crash out for hours and when I wake the world will be a better place with not a mucus filled hanky in sightPosted Image

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:55 AM

View PostOsseric, on 26 February 2013 - 06:49 AM, said:

View PostSilanah, on 26 February 2013 - 06:37 AM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 26 February 2013 - 06:29 AM, said:

View PostSilanah, on 26 February 2013 - 06:13 AM, said:

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 06:02 AM, said:

(everyone goes "guuuuuwhhwaaaa????")

Actually, I went "guuuuuwhhwaaaa-Choooooooo!!!!!" and filled another tissue with snot.

View PostOsseric, on 26 February 2013 - 06:04 AM, said:

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 05:56 AM, said:

I haven't done the exact math, but I think there's so many CFs now that we definitely have all the role names (unless there's some sort of hidden independent or Parshendi special leader role).

So assuming a symmetrical setup each prince faction has a Prince, a BattalionLord, a BrightLord, an Elite Guard and a Captain. And then there'd be 4 Parshendi left. I don't know for sure that this is how it is, but it'd make sense to me.

If true, that'd mean Thanadar is down to only their Captain and there's only 2 Parshendi left, while Dalinar and Sadeas are each down 2 (including the Sadeas prince)


Exactly what I was about to get at. The initial number speculation of 4-4-4-7 has to be wrong if he factions mirror each other, and they should. So, your numbers appear correct from there.

Based on that, I think we should be hunting the last surviving Parshendi. With PS confirming to Ano (by mistake) that gemhearts have a function earlier, then they could be getting several per day without having to worry about 2/3 highprinces contesting the plateaus.


So rather than hunt the last surviving member of Thanadar, you would rather go after two parshendi? Would this not suggest you are the last Thanadar?


I'm leaning towards agreeing that a battalionlord is responsible for NKs, if that is the case, then what threat is a captain, really? Same principal as what Sorrit is saying. So am I Tharandar? No, and based on your reaction I doubt you are either, so I guess OE did owe you an apology. I'd just rather go after more of a power role.




So since two of the four big boys are dead, and you want to go after big boys, you are not Dalinor or Parshendi. Therefore you are Thanadar or Sadeas. Because you pushed for a Parshendi hunt rather than finishing off Thanadar I think you are the last Thanadar. Therefore to further the interests of my faction:

vote Osserc


It's much more likely OE is, with that immediate jump from trying to peg you as Tharandar to trying to out Ano. Unless he got info from elsewhere, the timing is odd. Obviously isn't on Dalinar's faction, so more likely to be Parshendi or Tharandar, either way I wouldn't mind a closer look there even if he gives us more info on the reveal.

But I need to go to bed now, anyway. It's too late here.


Which is why my eye-brow is raised at that vote.

The only faction severely under pressure is Thanadar, with one player left. Thus, the claim must have some reason behind it, sneaky or straightforward. If I'm Thanadar I'm probably wanting to fuck around at this point, because your game is over. Thus, I can see the reason for OE's vote.

If I'm Dalinar, and I've been outting my leader the entire day by fucking about and bitching, I can kind of see this reaction as well. Lord knows I'm not acting like a Dalinar.

If I'm Sadeas, I've got a couple players left and who knows, same with Parshendi, could pull it out by playing safe and not being crazy.

Thus, if I had to tie down the reveal to one faction it'd be Thanadar or Dalinar. In which case, like I said, it is a really clever scheme either way.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:58 AM

Frankly, I think you are the last of Thanadar looking to fuck about and confuse. Or too clever for your own good. And, I have no problem voting for either in an Oh My God You Fucking Suck you clever, clever boy/girl.

Vote Olar Ethil

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:03 AM

View PostOsseric, on 26 February 2013 - 06:49 AM, said:

View PostSilanah, on 26 February 2013 - 06:37 AM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 26 February 2013 - 06:29 AM, said:

View PostSilanah, on 26 February 2013 - 06:13 AM, said:

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 06:02 AM, said:

(everyone goes "guuuuuwhhwaaaa????")

Actually, I went "guuuuuwhhwaaaa-Choooooooo!!!!!" and filled another tissue with snot.

View PostOsseric, on 26 February 2013 - 06:04 AM, said:

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 05:56 AM, said:

I haven't done the exact math, but I think there's so many CFs now that we definitely have all the role names (unless there's some sort of hidden independent or Parshendi special leader role).

So assuming a symmetrical setup each prince faction has a Prince, a BattalionLord, a BrightLord, an Elite Guard and a Captain. And then there'd be 4 Parshendi left. I don't know for sure that this is how it is, but it'd make sense to me.

If true, that'd mean Thanadar is down to only their Captain and there's only 2 Parshendi left, while Dalinar and Sadeas are each down 2 (including the Sadeas prince)


Exactly what I was about to get at. The initial number speculation of 4-4-4-7 has to be wrong if he factions mirror each other, and they should. So, your numbers appear correct from there.

Based on that, I think we should be hunting the last surviving Parshendi. With PS confirming to Ano (by mistake) that gemhearts have a function earlier, then they could be getting several per day without having to worry about 2/3 highprinces contesting the plateaus.


So rather than hunt the last surviving member of Thanadar, you would rather go after two parshendi? Would this not suggest you are the last Thanadar?


I'm leaning towards agreeing that a battalionlord is responsible for NKs, if that is the case, then what threat is a captain, really? Same principal as what Sorrit is saying. So am I Tharandar? No, and based on your reaction I doubt you are either, so I guess OE did owe you an apology. I'd just rather go after more of a power role.




So since two of the four big boys are dead, and you want to go after big boys, you are not Dalinor or Parshendi. Therefore you are Thanadar or Sadeas. Because you pushed for a Parshendi hunt rather than finishing off Thanadar I think you are the last Thanadar. Therefore to further the interests of my faction:

vote Osserc


It's much more likely OE is, with that immediate jump from trying to peg you as Tharandar to trying to out Ano. Unless he got info from elsewhere, the timing is odd. Obviously isn't on Dalinar's faction, so more likely to be Parshendi or Tharandar, either way I wouldn't mind a closer look there even if he gives us more info on the reveal.

But I need to go to bed now, anyway. It's too late here.


Regarding the underlined, someone who'd read the book speculated that the parshendi may have off thread comms because they're telepaths or something. So it's possible that a fellow parshendi tipped OE the nod I suppose. That would still not change my theory about you being the Last of the Thanadar (Michael Mann and Danny Day Lewis are already developing the film) and OE being Parshendi (to be played by Wes Studi in said film).

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:05 AM

Actually, re-reading that entire section where Olar pulls his quick 180, I kind of think he is Sadeas. Which makes me want to remove vote. And, thus I will.

Remove Vote

I'm more interested in other groups than Sadeas left-overs.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:25 AM

Well, those seductive minxes Sleep, Drugs and Alcohol are whispering softly in my ear that it's time for bed, so I am going to willingly submit to their threefold embrace. You scallywags play nicely while I'm away.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 01:43 PM

It is Day 4. 27 hours and 38 minutes remaining
9 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Fener, Kaschan, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Olar Ethil )
1 Vote for Osseric ( Silanah )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Fener, Kaschan, Osseric, Ruse, Sorrit
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 01:46 PM

View PostOsseric, on 26 February 2013 - 06:04 AM, said:

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 05:56 AM, said:

I haven't done the exact math, but I think there's so many CFs now that we definitely have all the role names (unless there's some sort of hidden independent or Parshendi special leader role).

So assuming a symmetrical setup each prince faction has a Prince, a BattalionLord, a BrightLord, an Elite Guard and a Captain. And then there'd be 4 Parshendi left. I don't know for sure that this is how it is, but it'd make sense to me.

If true, that'd mean Thanadar is down to only their Captain and there's only 2 Parshendi left, while Dalinar and Sadeas are each down 2 (including the Sadeas prince)


Exactly what I was about to get at. The initial number speculation of 4-4-4-7 has to be wrong if he factions mirror each other, and they should. So, your numbers appear correct from there.

Based on that, I think we should be hunting the last surviving Parshendi. With PS confirming to Ano (by mistake) that gemhearts have a function earlier, then they could be getting several per day without having to worry about 2/3 highprinces contesting the plateaus.


Interesting that you point out, that the Parshendi have an advantage that two Highprinces were killed, but completely neglect to mention that the same is true for the Dalinar.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 01:47 PM

MEGA reveal:
Osseric is the Dalinar high prince.
get him lynched and if he isn't lynch me tomorrow.

Vote Osseric.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 02:15 PM

View PostFener, on 26 February 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

MEGA reveal:
Osseric is the Dalinar high prince.
get him lynched and if he isn't lynch me tomorrow.

Vote Osseric.




I believe this reveal more than OE's, mostly because it fits with the post I quoted above.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 02:41 PM

It is Day 4. 26 hours and 39 minutes remaining
9 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Fener, Kaschan, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Olar Ethil )
2 Votes for Osseric ( Silanah, Fener )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Kaschan, Osseric, Ruse, Sorrit
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:10 PM

A scout reports that a Chasmfiend has been seen on Sky Plateau.

It is Day 4. 23 hours and 11 minutes remaining
9 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Fener, Kaschan, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Olar Ethil )
2 Votes for Osseric ( Silanah, Fener )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Kaschan, Osseric, Ruse, Sorrit

Edit: added bold

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 26 February 2013 - 06:55 PM

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:36 PM

Back, catching up

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:52 PM

View PostFener, on 26 February 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

MEGA reveal:
Osseric is the Dalinar high prince.
get him lynched and if he isn't lynch me tomorrow.

Vote Osseric.


Hmmmm so is this a legit reveal and Fener is outing himself as non Dalinar

or

Is this a way to flush out non Dalinar supporters by a Dalinar loyalist.


Ugh... so many layers.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:55 PM

View PostOlar Ethil, on 26 February 2013 - 06:00 AM, said:

Ah what the hell. Battalion lords are killers right? Certainly seemed that way, since Lio (a batlord) was lynched day 2 and then we only had 3 NKs instead of 4.

Well Ano is the Dalinar battalion lord. Enjoy!


Hmmmmm Same question of Olar Ethil.



I am actually leaning towards both reveals being true. Though I have a wriggling suspicion that Fener is lying. Olar's reveal was out of the blue, while Fener's seemed to want to steer away from an Anno vote. But I feel thats less likely as Anno wasn't under a ton of pressure and there was actually Thread resistance to voting him. (probably because he is in fact part of Dalinar and again we run into people not wanting to out themselves...perceived or actually.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:13 PM

It is Day 4. 20 hours and 8 minutes remaining.

9 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Fener, Kaschan, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Anomandaris ( Olar Ethil )
2 Votes for Osseric ( Silanah, Fener )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Kaschan, Osseric, Ruse, Sorrit

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