[Tulas Shorn]

Galain, on 19 February 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

Ok so far the only thing that I have seen that looks like it might be signaling is the interactions between Meanas and Tennes and then Meanas and Telas.

Notice the underlined that is the first mention of bugs.

Meanas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:49 PM, said:

Tennes, on 18 February 2013 - 11:38 PM, said:

Second and three-quarters!

Just because you don't call yourself a third doesn't mean your're not one! You're just a stinking third. Don't think that you're going to get special treatment around here turd third. No Battle School in your future.

Tennes, on 18 February 2013 - 11:45 PM, said:

No it isn't, we were just testing the thread, erm, connections. Come back next week.

Already trying to screw with your betters. That's just the type of bug loving behavior to be expected from a third.

Now a few posts later Telas is attempting to signal Meanas and I assume Tennes. There was only one post that mentioned bugs until Telas brings it up.

Telas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

This isn't Space Troopers peeps. Get over the insects.

Then Meanas signals back that he understood.

Meanas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:58 PM, said:

Telas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

This isn't Space Troopers peeps. Get over the insects.

Peeps? What do marshmallow bunny rabbits have to do with bugger loving thirds?

Now it seems that since Meanas is signaling Tennes that Meanas might have cause to think that Tennes is on his team but doesn't know him. So it would stand to reason that since Telas was the one to signal to Meanas that could mean that Telas has cause to know that Meanas is on is team but that Meanas doesn't know him. I think that any three of these deserves a vote. Since Telas already has a couple of votes and nobody has tried to deflect I think that he might be low in the hierarchy. So with that in mind I am going to vote for Tennes.


Vote Tennes

So if I understand you correctly, you're assuming that they both know someone on their team, but not the same person? So like, maybe they know the next person up in the hierarchy?

I dunno, in a faction game, I'm more inclined to believe that everyone knows their faction leader and no one else (faction leader doesn't know his/her team). This makes me a bit skeptical of the above case.

However, given that Tennes never actually said anything about bugs, I could go with a Meanas and Telas connection. Given that it seems that Telas signaled at Meanas, I'm thinking that would make Meanas the leader... so I'd be willing to drop my vote there. That being said, I'm still gonna hold for a bit, see what else is out there.

[Silanah]

So now we get serious? In that case I will drink up and head home to proper internetz.

[Galain]

Having never read the book I had to look at the wiki to try to figure out whom they could be referencing by talking about bugs. This is what I found


WOK wiki


Parshendi - A proud, tribal race native to the Shattered Plains which possess a warrior culture. The Parshendi are viewed by many other races as savages. They have mottled red and black skin that forms patterns unique to each individual, and are at war with the Alethi during the novel's main timeline.


Much like the various patterns that where on the bugs from movie Starship troopers I am assuming.

[Tulas Shorn]

Galain, on 19 February 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

Having never read the book I had to look at the wiki to try to figure out whom they could be referencing by talking about bugs. This is what I found


WOK wiki


Parshendi - A proud, tribal race native to the Shattered Plains which possess a warrior culture. The Parshendi are viewed by many other races as savages. They have mottled red and black skin that forms patterns unique to each individual, and are at war with the Alethi during the novel's main timeline.


Much like the various patterns that where on the bugs from movie Starship troopers I am assuming.

Given that the bug talk was introduced via a discussion about Ender's Game, we shouldn't discount any possible links there either.

However, I may have misunderstood the OP and game setup, but I figured there were three teams of 6 and one Parshendi. Why would a Parshendi signal to anyone? I'm just going by the very specific numbers - 19 or 22 players. I suppose it could be three teams of 5 with 4 Parshendi, but I just figured the Parshendi would be a recruiter. This is complete speculation, of course, but that's what I took away from the information we were given on the game.

[Galain]

Tulas Shorn, on 19 February 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

So if I understand you correctly, you're assuming that they both know someone on their team, but not the same person? So like, maybe they know the next person up in the hierarchy?

I dunno, in a faction game, I'm more inclined to believe that everyone knows their faction leader and no one else (faction leader doesn't know his/her team). This makes me a bit skeptical of the above case.

However, given that Tennes never actually said anything about bugs, I could go with a Meanas and Telas connection. Given that it seems that Telas signaled at Meanas, I'm thinking that would make Meanas the leader... so I'd be willing to drop my vote there. That being said, I'm still gonna hold for a bit, see what else is out there.

I have seen a lot of faction games where there is only one point of reference (Timelords was just such a game) and a lot where it as a hierarchy type of reference (Culture was such a game, thus Culture hunting was born)

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 14 hours and 44 minutes remaining

19 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Kaschan, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Fener ( Spite )
1 Vote for Ruse ( Telas )
1 Vote for Tennes ( Galain )
2 Votes for Telas ( Ampelas, Liosan )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Fener, Karosis, Kaschan, Korvalain, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

[Galain]

Tulas Shorn, on 19 February 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

Galain, on 19 February 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

Having never read the book I had to look at the wiki to try to figure out whom they could be referencing by talking about bugs. This is what I found


WOK wiki


Parshendi - A proud, tribal race native to the Shattered Plains which possess a warrior culture. The Parshendi are viewed by many other races as savages. They have mottled red and black skin that forms patterns unique to each individual, and are at war with the Alethi during the novel's main timeline.


Much like the various patterns that where on the bugs from movie Starship troopers I am assuming.

Given that the bug talk was introduced via a discussion about Ender's Game, we shouldn't discount any possible links there either.

However, I may have misunderstood the OP and game setup, but I figured there were three teams of 6 and one Parshendi. Why would a Parshendi signal to anyone? I'm just going by the very specific numbers - 19 or 22 players. I suppose it could be three teams of 5 with 4 Parshendi, but I just figured the Parshendi would be a recruiter. This is complete speculation, of course, but that's what I took away from the information we were given on the game.

Your wrong. Honestly there are only 3 pages is it really that hard to read back over all of them. The bug talk was initiated by Meanas toward Tennes then Telas jumped in with a starship troopers reference then a page later Enders came up. I do not mind you disagreeing with me but honestly with only 3 pages in the game so far it is way to small to start to get those kind of details wrong.

Meanas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:49 PM, said:

Tennes, on 18 February 2013 - 11:38 PM, said:

Second and three-quarters!

Just because you don't call yourself a third doesn't mean your're not one! You're just a stinking third. Don't think that you're going to get special treatment around here turd third. No Battle School in your future.

Tennes, on 18 February 2013 - 11:45 PM, said:

No it isn't, we were just testing the thread, erm, connections. Come back next week.

Already trying to screw with your betters. That's just the type of bug loving behavior to be expected from a third.

Telas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

This isn't Space Troopers peeps. Get over the insects.

Meanas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:58 PM, said:

Telas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

This isn't Space Troopers peeps. Get over the insects.

Peeps? What do marshmallow bunny rabbits have to do with bugger loving thirds?

Telas, on 19 February 2013 - 12:01 AM, said:

Meanas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:58 PM, said:

Telas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

This isn't Space Troopers peeps. Get over the insects.

Peeps? What do marshmallow bunny rabbits have to do with bugger loving thirds?

Well, peeps are crunchy on the outside and soft on the inside, kind of like an exoskeleton. The rabbits are in disguise

Karosis, on 19 February 2013 - 05:57 AM, said:

Hello everybody. Sad to see some people have not read Enders Game.

[Tulas Shorn]

Galain, on 19 February 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

Karosis, on 19 February 2013 - 05:57 AM, said:

Hello everybody. Sad to see some people have not read Enders Game.

Yeah, so I had taken that quote to mean that the bug talk was originally about Ender's Game, and not Starship Troopers. *shrugs* That being said, after having more carefully read, at your suggestion, it's likely that the bug talk was about Starship Troopers and that Karosis just wrongly believed it was an Ender's Game reference instead. Not having read Ender's Game, I can't really yay or nay whether bug references could easily be linked to it, so either way, we shouldn't discount the Ender's Game thing right away was the point I was trying to make.

[Tulas Shorn]

Galain, on 19 February 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 19 February 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

So if I understand you correctly, you're assuming that they both know someone on their team, but not the same person? So like, maybe they know the next person up in the hierarchy?

I dunno, in a faction game, I'm more inclined to believe that everyone knows their faction leader and no one else (faction leader doesn't know his/her team). This makes me a bit skeptical of the above case.

However, given that Tennes never actually said anything about bugs, I could go with a Meanas and Telas connection. Given that it seems that Telas signaled at Meanas, I'm thinking that would make Meanas the leader... so I'd be willing to drop my vote there. That being said, I'm still gonna hold for a bit, see what else is out there.

I have seen a lot of faction games where there is only one point of reference (Timelords was just such a game) and a lot where it as a hierarchy type of reference (Culture was such a game, thus Culture hunting was born)

I still think the former is the more often used mechanic. But hey, only time will tell I suppose.

[Telas]

Tulas Shorn, on 19 February 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

Galain, on 19 February 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

Ok so far the only thing that I have seen that looks like it might be signaling is the interactions between Meanas and Tennes and then Meanas and Telas.

Notice the underlined that is the first mention of bugs.

Meanas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:49 PM, said:

Tennes, on 18 February 2013 - 11:38 PM, said:

Second and three-quarters!

Just because you don't call yourself a third doesn't mean your're not one! You're just a stinking third. Don't think that you're going to get special treatment around here turd third. No Battle School in your future.

Tennes, on 18 February 2013 - 11:45 PM, said:

No it isn't, we were just testing the thread, erm, connections. Come back next week.

Already trying to screw with your betters. That's just the type of bug loving behavior to be expected from a third.

Now a few posts later Telas is attempting to signal Meanas and I assume Tennes. There was only one post that mentioned bugs until Telas brings it up.

Telas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

This isn't Space Troopers peeps. Get over the insects.

Then Meanas signals back that he understood.

Meanas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:58 PM, said:

Telas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

This isn't Space Troopers peeps. Get over the insects.

Peeps? What do marshmallow bunny rabbits have to do with bugger loving thirds?

Now it seems that since Meanas is signaling Tennes that Meanas might have cause to think that Tennes is on his team but doesn't know him. So it would stand to reason that since Telas was the one to signal to Meanas that could mean that Telas has cause to know that Meanas is on is team but that Meanas doesn't know him. I think that any three of these deserves a vote. Since Telas already has a couple of votes and nobody has tried to deflect I think that he might be low in the hierarchy. So with that in mind I am going to vote for Tennes.


Vote Tennes

So if I understand you correctly, you're assuming that they both know someone on their team, but not the same person? So like, maybe they know the next person up in the hierarchy?

I dunno, in a faction game, I'm more inclined to believe that everyone knows their faction leader and no one else (faction leader doesn't know his/her team). This makes me a bit skeptical of the above case.

However, given that Tennes never actually said anything about bugs, I could go with a Meanas and Telas connection. Given that it seems that Telas signaled at Meanas, I'm thinking that would make Meanas the leader... so I'd be willing to drop my vote there. That being said, I'm still gonna hold for a bit, see what else is out there.

I love it when people speculate about faction mechanics. So obviously you know some in your faction. Question is, does your language hint more at a leader (providing misinformation about leaders not knowing their team) or a follower.

The problem with the bug link, btw, is that the type of bug reference given by Meanas is he was referring to a defect or hiccup in coding. I was intentionally misunderstanding that and instead word playing with bug = insect. This makes the potential link even more tenuous imho, but I doubt anyone will take my word for it.

If you are looking for interactions, you have failed to mention the banter between Ruse and Meanas (ruse is ruse is rusing). In fact, Meanas seems to make a lot of connections, so I find it hard to believe any one of those are a solid link. I would tend to looking at Meanas' play style as flirty not giving too much undue weight to any of his flirtations, but if you want to sow confusion and misinformation, go right ahead.

Remove Vote

[Telas]

Galain, on 19 February 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

Having never read the book I had to look at the wiki to try to figure out whom they could be referencing by talking about bugs. This is what I found


WOK wiki


Parshendi - A proud, tribal race native to the Shattered Plains which possess a warrior culture. The Parshendi are viewed by many other races as savages. They have mottled red and black skin that forms patterns unique to each individual, and are at war with the Alethi during the novel's main timeline.


Much like the various patterns that where on the bugs from movie Starship troopers I am assuming.

Kind of weak stretch imho btw. If I wanted to reference that race, I would have gone for that Sith dude.

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[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 13 hours and 57 minutes remaining

19 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Kaschan, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Fener ( Spite )
2 Votes for Telas ( Ampelas, Liosan )
1 Vote for Tennes ( Galain )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Fener, Karosis, Kaschan, Korvalain, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Telas, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

[Spite]

Silanah, on 19 February 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:

So having mastered this new technology I find myself alone. I also find myself alone in the pub.

Tuesday sucks.

Of course you're alone, people don't hit the pubs till 11PM

and it's half past 3 in North America anyhow.

[Spite]

also, fun fact: re bugs. In the books, the Alethi are hunting these giant bugs on the Shattered plains, that have huge gemstones as their hearts (gemstones power the book's magic system).

Parshendi supposedly consider them gods (and they also hunt them. Go figure).

[Galain]

Telas, on 19 February 2013 - 09:04 PM, said:

I love it when people speculate about faction mechanics. So obviously you know some in your faction. Question is, does your language hint more at a leader (providing misinformation about leaders not knowing their team) or a follower.

The problem with the bug link, btw, is that the type of bug reference given by Meanas is he was referring to a defect or hiccup in coding. I was intentionally misunderstanding that and instead word playing with bug = insect. This makes the potential link even more tenuous imho, but I doubt anyone will take my word for it.

If you are looking for interactions, you have failed to mention the banter between Ruse and Meanas (ruse is ruse is rusing). In fact, Meanas seems to make a lot of connections, so I find it hard to believe any one of those are a solid link. I would tend to looking at Meanas' play style as flirty not giving too much undue weight to any of his flirtations, but if you want to sow confusion and misinformation, go right ahead.

Remove Vote

After 2 signaling games I think that even minor attempts are worth investigating.

[Telas]

Does that make you an expert at identifying it or doing it?

[Galain]

Telas, on 19 February 2013 - 09:41 PM, said:

Does that make you an expert at identifying it or doing it?

Neither. But the previous games make it more likely that signaling in a faction game occurs on the first day in the first posts.

[Telas]

I guess the stance I'm taking is how can we know who Meanas is signaling when he is spreading the love so widely without apparent prejudice. There's a difference between a weird cagey comment and a pattern of just messing around. If I was trying to figure out if Meanas was on my team, I would have no clue because he responds to several different people, usually in the order of their appearance on the thread. The chance that all team members of one team showing up at the same time in the game to have a nice tidy interaction in a short space of time is unlikely.

[Meanas]

Galain, on 19 February 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

Ok so far the only thing that I have seen that looks like it might be signaling is the interactions between Meanas and Tennes and then Meanas and Telas.

Notice the underlined that is the first mention of bugs.

Meanas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:49 PM, said:

Tennes, on 18 February 2013 - 11:38 PM, said:

Second and three-quarters!

Just because you don't call yourself a third doesn't mean your're not one! You're just a stinking third. Don't think that you're going to get special treatment around here turd third. No Battle School in your future.

Tennes, on 18 February 2013 - 11:45 PM, said:

No it isn't, we were just testing the thread, erm, connections. Come back next week.

Already trying to screw with your betters. That's just the type of bug loving behavior to be expected from a third.

Now a few posts later Telas is attempting to signal Meanas and I assume Tennes. There was only one post that mentioned bugs until Telas brings it up.

Telas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

This isn't Space Troopers peeps. Get over the insects.

Then Meanas signals back that he understood.

Meanas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:58 PM, said:

Telas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

This isn't Space Troopers peeps. Get over the insects.

Peeps? What do marshmallow bunny rabbits have to do with bugger loving thirds?

Now it seems that since Meanas is signaling Tennes that Meanas might have cause to think that Tennes is on his team but doesn't know him. So it would stand to reason that since Telas was the one to signal to Meanas that could mean that Telas has cause to know that Meanas is on is team but that Meanas doesn't know him. I think that any three of these deserves a vote. Since Telas already has a couple of votes and nobody has tried to deflect I think that he might be low in the hierarchy. So with that in mind I am going to vote for Tennes.


Vote Tennes

Bugger me! Wander offline for a minor in office surgery and return to find that somebody cracked the code and wants to culture hunt.

Quote

Wiki link

...alien race known as the Formics, derogatorily dubbed "buggers" due to their insect-like appearance...

Battle School
Andrew "Ender" Wiggin is the youngest child in the Wiggin family, and part of an Earth program to produce brilliant officers; despite this, Ender is teased as a "third" under Earth's two-child policy.

First! Second! Second and three quarters? See above reference "Ender's Game" and "third". Also note that antagonists are "bugs" and "insects".


Telas responds with "this isn't space troopers peeps enough withe the insects"

Valentine's Day is over and Easter is nigh. It's the next good "sell candy" event for stores. Popular Easter candy? Peeps.

I could have riffed on the "space troopers", but I despise that movie almost as much as I liked the book. Rant or peeps? I went with the more fun one.

This led to the twentieth post of the game:

Telas, on 19 February 2013 - 12:01 AM, said:

Meanas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:58 PM, said:

Telas, on 18 February 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

This isn't Space Troopers peeps. Get over the insects.

Peeps? What do marshmallow bunny rabbits have to do with bugger loving thirds?

Well, peeps are crunchy on the outside and soft on the inside, kind of like an exoskeleton. The rabbits are in disguise

So Galain? You've managed to spot all that signaling going on? Damn, you are good. Caught us in 18 posts.

[Meanas]

Galain, on 19 February 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 19 February 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

Galain, on 19 February 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

Having never read the book I had to look at the wiki to try to figure out whom they could be referencing by talking about bugs. This is what I found


WOK wiki


Parshendi - A proud, tribal race native to the Shattered Plains which possess a warrior culture. The Parshendi are viewed by many other races as savages. They have mottled red and black skin that forms patterns unique to each individual, and are at war with the Alethi during the novel's main timeline.


Much like the various patterns that where on the bugs from movie Starship troopers I am assuming.

Given that the bug talk was introduced via a discussion about Ender's Game, we shouldn't discount any possible links there either.

However, I may have misunderstood the OP and game setup, but I figured there were three teams of 6 and one Parshendi. Why would a Parshendi signal to anyone? I'm just going by the very specific numbers - 19 or 22 players. I suppose it could be three teams of 5 with 4 Parshendi, but I just figured the Parshendi would be a recruiter. This is complete speculation, of course, but that's what I took away from the information we were given on the game.

Your wrong. Honestly there are only 3 pages is it really that hard to read back over all of them. The bug talk was initiated by Meanas toward Tennes then Telas jumped in with a starship troopers reference then a page later Enders came up. I do not mind you disagreeing with me but honestly with only 3 pages in the game so far it is way to small to start to get those kind of details wrong.

The first Ender's Game reference was post #11. I do not mind you making day one cases on weak shit but honestly with only three pages in the game it is way too early to get those kinds of details wrong.