[Olar Ethil]

Karosis, on 20 February 2013 - 04:24 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 19 February 2013 - 08:54 PM, said:

Galain, on 19 February 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

Karosis, on 19 February 2013 - 05:57 AM, said:

Hello everybody. Sad to see some people have not read Enders Game.

Yeah, so I had taken that quote to mean that the bug talk was originally about Ender's Game, and not Starship Troopers. *shrugs* That being said, after having more carefully read, at your suggestion, it's likely that the bug talk was about Starship Troopers and that Karosis just wrongly believed it was an Ender's Game reference instead. Not having read Ender's Game, I can't really yay or nay whether bug references could easily be linked to it, so either way, we shouldn't discount the Ender's Game thing right away was the point I was trying to make.

You are dumb.

This quote by Meanas

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Just because you don't call yourself a third doesn't mean your're not one! You're just a stinking third. Don't think that you're going to get special treatment around here turd third. No Battle School in your future.

Is directly, or close enough that I thought it was, out of Enders Game.

Although the 'baddies' in Enders Game (who turn out to not be bad, but that is a whole different storyline) are 'Buggers' because they are literally giant hiveminds, I was referring to the quote above.

Agreed. The Ender's Game references started right away with the "Third" name-calling, but references to the Ender's Game buggers could easily be taken as the Starship Troopers bugs.

[Karosis]

Olar Ethil, on 20 February 2013 - 04:15 AM, said:

Thanks, I was just about to ask if anyone who had read the books would know if Parshendi would likely be recruits. Azathmaster is the creator, yes? Seems like from the immersion of the OP and day scene that he is very likely sticking closely to the mechanics and behaviours of the books, so a group that has no thematic ability to recruit in the books will probably not recruit here.

@Karo/Amp - could the Parshendi theoretically be some kind of predator role? Like do they have an elite warrior or mage who could wipe out entire armies by himself? If not, I doubt the 6-6-6-1 or 7-7-7-1 role distribution idea is right.

Parshendi do have a full shardbearer at the end of the book. The Kholins have 2 full shardbearers... Sadeas has shardplate but no blade, and I honestly don't recall what the other High Prince has. Beyond people who can suck the stormlight out of gems, Shardbearers are literally the top dogs that we have seen in book 1. There were no Parshendi in the book I recall that could do this, and most of the parshendi have small gems woven into their beards/hair that can get stormlight sucked out by someone who can do that.

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It's been a while since I read this book, and because I thought it was a bit boring, I guess I forgot more than I remembered, but didn't they have parshendi who got captured in battle, become slaves who wouldn't talk and were like super obedient, or something?

Nope. Parshmen are the slaves and utterly obedient. They are greyish in colour iirc and completely obedient. The Parishmen seem to be close, but divergent, they have grown armor, much different coloring, and actually, you know, fight and sing and talk unlike the Parshmen who seem nearly robotic.

[Karosis]

Sorry that was confusing because I said that wrong.

Parshmen are the slaves. Parshendi have a different name because they seem to be a different evolutionary species or something. It isn't really explained because the Alethi don't know a lot about them.

[Olar Ethil]

Okay, so the Parsh doesn't sound like it can be a one-man faction, then.

The numbers stated in sign-up were 19 or 22. How about 4-4-4-7 or 5-5-5-7, with the 7 being the Parshs?

[Tulas Shorn]

Olar Ethil, on 20 February 2013 - 04:52 AM, said:

Okay, so the Parsh doesn't sound like it can be a one-man faction, then.

The numbers stated in sign-up were 19 or 22. How about 4-4-4-7 or 5-5-5-7, with the 7 being the Parshs?

Given what has come out with speculation on the books, I think one of these is more likely.

That being said, from what I have read in the wiki, the Parshendi always send an equal amount of fighters against the factions, so could it be that there are two factions and the parshendi with equal and one of the factions that have a bit more? Does one of the factions have more power in the books?

[Olar Ethil]

Tulas Shorn, on 20 February 2013 - 05:11 AM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 20 February 2013 - 04:52 AM, said:

Okay, so the Parsh doesn't sound like it can be a one-man faction, then.

The numbers stated in sign-up were 19 or 22. How about 4-4-4-7 or 5-5-5-7, with the 7 being the Parshs?

Given what has come out with speculation on the books, I think one of these is more likely.

That being said, from what I have read in the wiki, the Parshendi always send an equal amount of fighters against the factions, so could it be that there are two factions and the parshendi with equal and one of the factions that have a bit more? Does one of the factions have more power in the books?

They always send equal numbers? Interesting. But if there are 15 total non-Parshendi, do they send 5 or do they send 15?

Alternative idea would be that the factions are 5-5-5-5 and there are hidden independents or something.

[Tulas Shorn]

Olar Ethil, on 20 February 2013 - 05:13 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 20 February 2013 - 05:11 AM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 20 February 2013 - 04:52 AM, said:

Okay, so the Parsh doesn't sound like it can be a one-man faction, then.

The numbers stated in sign-up were 19 or 22. How about 4-4-4-7 or 5-5-5-7, with the 7 being the Parshs?

Given what has come out with speculation on the books, I think one of these is more likely.

That being said, from what I have read in the wiki, the Parshendi always send an equal amount of fighters against the factions, so could it be that there are two factions and the parshendi with equal and one of the factions that have a bit more? Does one of the factions have more power in the books?

They always send equal numbers? Interesting. But if there are 15 total non-Parshendi, do they send 5 or do they send 15?

Alternative idea would be that the factions are 5-5-5-5 and there are hidden independents or something.

The independent thing is possible.

Re: The whole equal number thing:

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The Parshendi always attack the plateaus with numbers roughly equal to the numbers sent by the Alethi. Part of the reason for this is simply that the plateaus are not large enough for more numbers, but later events suggest that Parshendi honor prevents them from sending more. An exception is that the Parshendi always send about 10,000 warriors to The Tower, the largest plateau on the Shattered Plains and the closest to Parshendi territory. None of the Alethi Highprinces have ever captured a gemheart at the Tower.

That's from the Wiki.

I think the idea is that each Alethi Highprinces has a certain number of members on their plateaus, and the Parshendi would send an equal number of fighters against their fighters because it would be dishonourable to send more.

I dunno, I feel like I'm talking myself into a circle, here. I tend to do this when I'm playing a game based on a book I haven't read. But hey, at least the throwing out of ideas that I have been doing has been promoting discussion of possible mechanics.

[Olar Ethil]

Tulas Shorn, on 20 February 2013 - 05:21 AM, said:

I dunno, I feel like I'm talking myself into a circle, here. I tend to do this when I'm playing a game based on a book I haven't read. But hey, at least the throwing out of ideas that I have been doing has been promoting discussion of possible mechanics.

I know what you mean. It's just day 1. Idle speculation is about the best we can hope for at this point, but it is still useful to get ideas on-thread.

[Spite]

Anomandaris, on 20 February 2013 - 03:48 AM, said:

Gemhearts power Shardplate and Shardblades, which are basically badass mech-suits that make their bearers kick-ass in battle.

Thus, I think they probably have to do with powering up actions.

Gemhearts power all magic in Stormlight Archive. Are you sure you're not getting this mixed up w/ Escaflowne?

[Spite]

Ampelas, on 20 February 2013 - 04:21 AM, said:

It's been a while since I read this book, and because I thought it was a bit boring, I guess I forgot more than I remembered, but didn't they have parshendi who got captured in battle, become slaves who wouldn't talk and were like super obedient, or something?

no
Parshmen are Parshendi's "cousins" or somewhat related race. Parshendi are literally "Parsmen wh can think for themselves"

Gemhearts are basically currency. they are worth a lot.

[Olar Ethil]

I'm falling asleep on my keyboard over here so I'm going to go to bed. None of the miscellaneous signaling accusations jumped out at me as being particularly likely. It's day 1, I'm fine with a no lynch and have no one I want to vote for so I'm content to just see what new information night provides.

[Tulas Shorn]

Alright, well, I am heading to bed, and I don't really feel strongly in any direction. I would have voted Olar, but then he showed up, and added what I felt was meaningful insight into the game, so I am just going to leave my vote off for today. I am not interested in accidentally lynching one of my teammates, and there's really not much in terms of information on thread right now, so... G'night folks, and g'luck on the decision front to all those who'll be around for timeout!

[Olar Ethil]

Oh and just FYI I will probably be on around the same time that I showed up today, each and every day. And I probably won't be able to get online at any other times. If that makes me a low poster, so be it

[Liosan]

So the two things that stand out to me are Tulas' speculation below and the funny quote by Galain. I am reading up and Meanas' question of Tulas is appropriate. I put both quotes together which makes the underlined funny.

Meanas, on 20 February 2013 - 01:54 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 19 February 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

However, I may have misunderstood the OP and game setup, but I figured there were three teams of 6 and one Parshendi. Why would a Parshendi signal to anyone? I'm just going by the very specific numbers - 19 or 22 players. I suppose it could be three teams of 5 with 4 Parshendi, but I just figured the Parshendi would be a recruiter. This is complete speculation, of course, but that's what I took away from the information we were given on the game.

I missed this the first time through.

What in the OP is giving you the idea that there would only be 1 Parshindi and a recruiter??

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Your wrong. Honestly there are only 3 pages is it really that hard to read back over all of them. The bug talk was initiated by Meanas toward Tennes then Telas jumped in with a starship troopers reference then a page later Enders came up. I do not mind you disagreeing with me but honestly with only 3 pages in the game so far it is way to small to start to get those kind of details wrong.

[Ampelas]

Liosan, on 20 February 2013 - 09:23 AM, said:

So the two things that stand out to me are Tulas' speculation below and the funny quote by Galain. I am reading up and Meanas' question of Tulas is appropriate. I put both quotes together which makes the underlined funny.

Meanas, on 20 February 2013 - 01:54 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 19 February 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

However, I may have misunderstood the OP and game setup, but I figured there were three teams of 6 and one Parshendi. Why would a Parshendi signal to anyone? I'm just going by the very specific numbers - 19 or 22 players. I suppose it could be three teams of 5 with 4 Parshendi, but I just figured the Parshendi would be a recruiter. This is complete speculation, of course, but that's what I took away from the information we were given on the game.

I missed this the first time through.

What in the OP is giving you the idea that there would only be 1 Parshindi and a recruiter??

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Your wrong. Honestly there are only 3 pages is it really that hard to read back over all of them. The bug talk was initiated by Meanas toward Tennes then Telas jumped in with a starship troopers reference then a page later Enders came up. I do not mind you disagreeing with me but honestly with only 3 pages in the game so far it is way to small to start to get those kind of details wrong.

Well, it's getting close to the witching hour, and there's not a whole lot to go on, but I'm just going to go with this catch from above. It may be nothing, but just in case Tulas knows something we don't about a single Parshendi Recruiter possibility


VOTE FOR TULAS

[Liosan]

When is the witching hour?

[Liosan]

I'm prepared to vote Tulas based on the recruiter slip.



Vote Tulas



There is nothing else of note to pick up on.

[Ampelas]

Liosan, on 20 February 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

When is the witching hour?

About an hour, or less.

[Liosan]

Ampelas, on 20 February 2013 - 10:34 AM, said:

Liosan, on 20 February 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

When is the witching hour?

About an hour, or less.

Is there a point to voting then? We are not going to get the required votes.

[Ampelas]

Liosan, on 20 February 2013 - 10:36 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 20 February 2013 - 10:34 AM, said:

Liosan, on 20 February 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

When is the witching hour?

About an hour, or less.

Is there a point to voting then? We are not going to get the required votes.

Probably not, in so much as getting a lynch, but maybe he would feel like talking even more than he's already done. I just find anything more entertaining and potentially helpful as opposed to the alternative of just letting time wind down to the sound of crickets chirping.