[Tulas Shorn]

Osseric, on 20 February 2013 - 03:22 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn said:

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Tulas Shorn said:

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However, I may have misunderstood the OP and game setup, but I figured there were three teams of 6 and one Parshendi. Why would a Parshendi signal to anyone? I'm just going by the very specific numbers - 19 or 22 players. I suppose it could be three teams of 5 with 4 Parshendi, but I just figured the Parshendi would be a recruiter. This is complete speculation, of course, but that's what I took away from the information we were given on the game.

I missed this the first time through.

What in the OP is giving you the idea that there would only be 1 Parshindi and a recruiter??

I actually meant to address this too, cause it seemed odd and I definitely didn't get that read from the OP. In the book, the Parshendi are their own army (as in a ton of them) fighting against the highprinces (who are also squabbling amongst themselves). To be a one man army would be absurd. Similarly, I highly doubt they'd be able to recruit humans, though there could always be creative liberty for the game.

That's where book knowledge would help. I haven't read it, so I have no idea whether or not it makes sense for the Parshendi to recruit.

Yeah, same here. I was just speculating based on the game numbers. Given that the Parshendi are their own army, it could just as easily be 3 teams of 4, with Parshendi being 7 players. That sounds like it would be more in line with what Korvalain has said about the book.

That was supposed to say Osseric, not Korvalain.

I'm willing to buy that you were just speculating, you answered us resonably enough. It can be hard without knowledge of the world (I still highly recommend the book though). You just raised some questions for the rest of us about what you may or may not know, understandably.

And yeah, figuring out the numbers will be important. I do think that the Highprince factions would have to have the same numbers, makes sense.

I do intend on reading it eventually, but I'm currently reading Codex Alera series by Jim Butcher. Maybe after I'm done these!

[Tulas Shorn]

Osseric, on 20 February 2013 - 03:22 AM, said:

I'm willing to buy that you were just speculating, you answered us resonably enough. It can be hard without knowledge of the world (I still highly recommend the book though). You just raised some questions for the rest of us about what you may or may not know, understandably.

And yeah, figuring out the numbers will be important. I do think that the Highprince factions would have to have the same numbers, makes sense.

And I realize that the first person to speculate always ends up looking suspicious, but the speculation has to start some time, and I'd rather it start sooner rather than later. I think it's going to be important that we figure out team sizes and game mechanics sooner rather than later if anyone has a chance at winning.

I'm curious about the Day Scene that we got from PS earlier.

Path-Shaper, on 20 February 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

As the day wore on, highprinces and parshendi alike sent armies to multiple plateaus, in a race to collect the gemhearts encased in the chasmfiend chrysalis's. On Maras Plateau, Dalinar Kholin's forces arrived mere minutes before Thanadar's forces, and pushed back the Parshendi there with their superior discipline. On Sekas plateau, Sadeas's bridgemen allowed him to arrive before the parshendi, and he took the gemheart quickly, barely skirmishing with the Parshendi before he retreated back to his warcamp.

It's got some interesting information. What do the Gemhearts do in the books? The OP make them seem to just be valuable artefacts or something... I figure they either have something to do with VCs, or that they provide special abilities to factions as they gain more and more gemhearts. Anyway, we should take into account that Dalinar Kholin and Sadeas both now seem to have a gemheart. I bet it's going to be important to keep track of which team has the most gemhearts.

[Anomandaris]

Gemhearts power Shardplate and Shardblades, which are basically badass mech-suits that make their bearers kick-ass in battle.

Thus, I think they probably have to do with powering up actions.

[Ampelas]

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[Olar Ethil]

5 pages? Thank you. Reading up now.

[Anomandaris]

Anomandaris, on 20 February 2013 - 03:48 AM, said:

Gemhearts power Shardplate and Shardblades, which are basically badass mech-suits that make their bearers kick-ass in battle.

Thus, I think they probably have to do with powering up actions.

At least, I thought this was the case. Wiki says nothing about them being used for this, though. Might be bad memory there. Need back-up.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 7 hours and 25 minutes remaining

19 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Kaschan, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Fener ( Spite )
1 Vote for Olar Ethil ( Meanas )
1 Vote for Telas ( Liosan )
1 Vote for Tennes ( Galain )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Fener, Karosis, Kaschan, Korvalain, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Telas, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

[Tulas Shorn]

Anomandaris, on 20 February 2013 - 03:56 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on 20 February 2013 - 03:48 AM, said:

Gemhearts power Shardplate and Shardblades, which are basically badass mech-suits that make their bearers kick-ass in battle.

Thus, I think they probably have to do with powering up actions.

At least, I thought this was the case. Wiki says nothing about them being used for this, though. Might be bad memory there. Need back-up.

Yeah, the wiki is painfully vague about gemhearts.

[Tulas Shorn]

I read about Shardplates and Shardblades and neither entries say anything about Gemhearts. *shrugs*

I still think that Gemhearts are going to be important... Be it a powerup of some sort, or necessary for a VC, the OP and the scene make it obvious that they matter.

[Karosis]

Anomandaris, on 20 February 2013 - 03:48 AM, said:

Gemhearts power Shardplate and Shardblades, which are basically badass mech-suits that make their bearers kick-ass in battle.

Thus, I think they probably have to do with powering up actions.

No, gemhearts are much too large to power shardplate and shardblades.

Smaller crystals are used to do that. The larger the specific gem is the less chance it will be ruined when 'channeling' the magic through it, so the larger ones last much longer and can be done for much more stuff, which is why the High Princes want them. Also, very very valuable. Especially to a group that is living in what is pretty much a barren wasteland from a previous war that literally turns rocks into grain to feed their armies. Having enough gemhearts to do that without losing any is a huge thing.

[Ampelas]

Anomandaris, on 20 February 2013 - 03:56 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on 20 February 2013 - 03:48 AM, said:

Gemhearts power Shardplate and Shardblades, which are basically badass mech-suits that make their bearers kick-ass in battle.

Thus, I think they probably have to do with powering up actions.

At least, I thought this was the case. Wiki says nothing about them being used for this, though. Might be bad memory there. Need back-up.

I forget what they were called, not magicians, but some people could use the power stored in the Gemhearts for increased speed, strength, and general battle prowess . it was some type of life force some warriors could tap into for extraordinary abilities.

[Karosis]

Korvalain, on 20 February 2013 - 02:13 AM, said:

Osseric, on 20 February 2013 - 02:03 AM, said:

Meanas, on 20 February 2013 - 01:54 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 19 February 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

However, I may have misunderstood the OP and game setup, but I figured there were three teams of 6 and one Parshendi. Why would a Parshendi signal to anyone? I'm just going by the very specific numbers - 19 or 22 players. I suppose it could be three teams of 5 with 4 Parshendi, but I just figured the Parshendi would be a recruiter. This is complete speculation, of course, but that's what I took away from the information we were given on the game.

I missed this the first time through.

What in the OP is giving you the idea that there would only be 1 Parshindi and a recruiter??

I actually meant to address this too, cause it seemed odd and I definitely didn't get that read from the OP. In the book, the Parshendi are their own army (as in a ton of them) fighting against the highprinces (who are also squabbling amongst themselves). To be a one man army would be absurd. Similarly, I highly doubt they'd be able to recruit humans, though there could always be creative liberty for the game.

That's where book knowledge would help. I haven't read it, so I have no idea whether or not it makes sense for the Parshendi to recruit.

By the books, Parshendi wouldn't recruit. They are at war with the High Princes because on the night of celebration after signing a peace treaty, they assassinated the king. I have absolutely massive doubts the Parshendi would be recruiters.

[Karosis]

Ampelas, on 20 February 2013 - 04:08 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on 20 February 2013 - 03:56 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on 20 February 2013 - 03:48 AM, said:

Gemhearts power Shardplate and Shardblades, which are basically badass mech-suits that make their bearers kick-ass in battle.

Thus, I think they probably have to do with powering up actions.

At least, I thought this was the case. Wiki says nothing about them being used for this, though. Might be bad memory there. Need back-up.

I forget what they were called, not magicians, but some people could use the power stored in the Gemhearts for increased speed, strength, and general battle prowess . it was some type of life force some warriors could tap into for extraordinary abilities.

The people who have the power to do this can do this from any 'infused' gem, gems get 'infused' by being left outside during a highstorm. GemHearts are just extremely large gems that need to be cut out of giant walking crab-monsters. Gems so large they aren't found anywhere else.

[Olar Ethil]

Tulas Shorn, on 20 February 2013 - 03:36 AM, said:

Osseric, on 20 February 2013 - 03:22 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 20 February 2013 - 02:53 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 20 February 2013 - 02:52 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 20 February 2013 - 02:13 AM, said:

Osseric, on 20 February 2013 - 02:03 AM, said:

Meanas, on 20 February 2013 - 01:54 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 19 February 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

However, I may have misunderstood the OP and game setup, but I figured there were three teams of 6 and one Parshendi. Why would a Parshendi signal to anyone? I'm just going by the very specific numbers - 19 or 22 players. I suppose it could be three teams of 5 with 4 Parshendi, but I just figured the Parshendi would be a recruiter. This is complete speculation, of course, but that's what I took away from the information we were given on the game.

I missed this the first time through.

What in the OP is giving you the idea that there would only be 1 Parshindi and a recruiter??

I actually meant to address this too, cause it seemed odd and I definitely didn't get that read from the OP. In the book, the Parshendi are their own army (as in a ton of them) fighting against the highprinces (who are also squabbling amongst themselves). To be a one man army would be absurd. Similarly, I highly doubt they'd be able to recruit humans, though there could always be creative liberty for the game.

That's where book knowledge would help. I haven't read it, so I have no idea whether or not it makes sense for the Parshendi to recruit.

Yeah, same here. I was just speculating based on the game numbers. Given that the Parshendi are their own army, it could just as easily be 3 teams of 4, with Parshendi being 7 players. That sounds like it would be more in line with what Korvalain has said about the book.

That was supposed to say Osseric, not Korvalain.

I'm willing to buy that you were just speculating, you answered us resonably enough. It can be hard without knowledge of the world (I still highly recommend the book though). You just raised some questions for the rest of us about what you may or may not know, understandably.

And yeah, figuring out the numbers will be important. I do think that the Highprince factions would have to have the same numbers, makes sense.

I do intend on reading it eventually, but I'm currently reading Codex Alera series by Jim Butcher. Maybe after I'm done these!

Not even trying to hide yourself from alting? I guess you're probably not really on any/many peoples' lists.

[Olar Ethil]

Karosis, on 20 February 2013 - 04:10 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 20 February 2013 - 02:13 AM, said:

Osseric, on 20 February 2013 - 02:03 AM, said:

Meanas, on 20 February 2013 - 01:54 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 19 February 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

However, I may have misunderstood the OP and game setup, but I figured there were three teams of 6 and one Parshendi. Why would a Parshendi signal to anyone? I'm just going by the very specific numbers - 19 or 22 players. I suppose it could be three teams of 5 with 4 Parshendi, but I just figured the Parshendi would be a recruiter. This is complete speculation, of course, but that's what I took away from the information we were given on the game.

I missed this the first time through.

What in the OP is giving you the idea that there would only be 1 Parshindi and a recruiter??

I actually meant to address this too, cause it seemed odd and I definitely didn't get that read from the OP. In the book, the Parshendi are their own army (as in a ton of them) fighting against the highprinces (who are also squabbling amongst themselves). To be a one man army would be absurd. Similarly, I highly doubt they'd be able to recruit humans, though there could always be creative liberty for the game.

That's where book knowledge would help. I haven't read it, so I have no idea whether or not it makes sense for the Parshendi to recruit.

By the books, Parshendi wouldn't recruit. They are at war with the High Princes because on the night of celebration after signing a peace treaty, they assassinated the king. I have absolutely massive doubts the Parshendi would be recruiters.

Thanks, I was just about to ask if anyone who had read the books would know if Parshendi would likely be recruits. Azathmaster is the creator, yes? Seems like from the immersion of the OP and day scene that he is very likely sticking closely to the mechanics and behaviours of the books, so a group that has no thematic ability to recruit in the books will probably not recruit here.

@Karo/Amp - could the Parshendi theoretically be some kind of predator role? Like do they have an elite warrior or mage who could wipe out entire armies by himself? If not, I doubt the 6-6-6-1 or 7-7-7-1 role distribution idea is right.

[Ampelas]

It's been a while since I read this book, and because I thought it was a bit boring, I guess I forgot more than I remembered, but didn't they have parshendi who got captured in battle, become slaves who wouldn't talk and were like super obedient, or something?

[Karosis]

Tulas Shorn, on 19 February 2013 - 08:54 PM, said:

Galain, on 19 February 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

Karosis, on 19 February 2013 - 05:57 AM, said:

Hello everybody. Sad to see some people have not read Enders Game.

Yeah, so I had taken that quote to mean that the bug talk was originally about Ender's Game, and not Starship Troopers. *shrugs* That being said, after having more carefully read, at your suggestion, it's likely that the bug talk was about Starship Troopers and that Karosis just wrongly believed it was an Ender's Game reference instead. Not having read Ender's Game, I can't really yay or nay whether bug references could easily be linked to it, so either way, we shouldn't discount the Ender's Game thing right away was the point I was trying to make.

You are dumb.

This quote by Meanas

Quote

Just because you don't call yourself a third doesn't mean your're not one! You're just a stinking third. Don't think that you're going to get special treatment around here turd third. No Battle School in your future.

Is directly, or close enough that I thought it was, out of Enders Game.

Although the 'baddies' in Enders Game (who turn out to not be bad, but that is a whole different storyline) are 'Buggers' because they are literally giant hiveminds, I was referring to the quote above.

[Ruse]

Olar Ethil, on 20 February 2013 - 04:12 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 20 February 2013 - 03:36 AM, said:

Osseric, on 20 February 2013 - 03:22 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 20 February 2013 - 02:53 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 20 February 2013 - 02:52 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 20 February 2013 - 02:13 AM, said:

Osseric, on 20 February 2013 - 02:03 AM, said:

Meanas, on 20 February 2013 - 01:54 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 19 February 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

However, I may have misunderstood the OP and game setup, but I figured there were three teams of 6 and one Parshendi. Why would a Parshendi signal to anyone? I'm just going by the very specific numbers - 19 or 22 players. I suppose it could be three teams of 5 with 4 Parshendi, but I just figured the Parshendi would be a recruiter. This is complete speculation, of course, but that's what I took away from the information we were given on the game.

I missed this the first time through.

What in the OP is giving you the idea that there would only be 1 Parshindi and a recruiter??

I actually meant to address this too, cause it seemed odd and I definitely didn't get that read from the OP. In the book, the Parshendi are their own army (as in a ton of them) fighting against the highprinces (who are also squabbling amongst themselves). To be a one man army would be absurd. Similarly, I highly doubt they'd be able to recruit humans, though there could always be creative liberty for the game.

That's where book knowledge would help. I haven't read it, so I have no idea whether or not it makes sense for the Parshendi to recruit.

Yeah, same here. I was just speculating based on the game numbers. Given that the Parshendi are their own army, it could just as easily be 3 teams of 4, with Parshendi being 7 players. That sounds like it would be more in line with what Korvalain has said about the book.

That was supposed to say Osseric, not Korvalain.

I'm willing to buy that you were just speculating, you answered us resonably enough. It can be hard without knowledge of the world (I still highly recommend the book though). You just raised some questions for the rest of us about what you may or may not know, understandably.

And yeah, figuring out the numbers will be important. I do think that the Highprince factions would have to have the same numbers, makes sense.

I do intend on reading it eventually, but I'm currently reading Codex Alera series by Jim Butcher. Maybe after I'm done these!

Not even trying to hide yourself from alting? I guess you're probably not really on any/many peoples' lists.

Can we have done with the meta please? You can always PM PS if you need to say something. I know it's day 1, but we're not really messing around as much now.

[Ruse]

Ampelas, on 20 February 2013 - 04:21 AM, said:

It's been a while since I read this book, and because I thought it was a bit boring, I guess I forgot more than I remembered, but didn't they have parshendi who got captured in battle, become slaves who wouldn't talk and were like super obedient, or something?

Weren't they a separate group? Parshmen or something?

[Ampelas]

Olar Ethil, on 20 February 2013 - 04:15 AM, said:

Karosis, on 20 February 2013 - 04:10 AM, said:

Korvalain, on 20 February 2013 - 02:13 AM, said:

Osseric, on 20 February 2013 - 02:03 AM, said:

Meanas, on 20 February 2013 - 01:54 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 19 February 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

However, I may have misunderstood the OP and game setup, but I figured there were three teams of 6 and one Parshendi. Why would a Parshendi signal to anyone? I'm just going by the very specific numbers - 19 or 22 players. I suppose it could be three teams of 5 with 4 Parshendi, but I just figured the Parshendi would be a recruiter. This is complete speculation, of course, but that's what I took away from the information we were given on the game.

I missed this the first time through.

What in the OP is giving you the idea that there would only be 1 Parshindi and a recruiter??

I actually meant to address this too, cause it seemed odd and I definitely didn't get that read from the OP. In the book, the Parshendi are their own army (as in a ton of them) fighting against the highprinces (who are also squabbling amongst themselves). To be a one man army would be absurd. Similarly, I highly doubt they'd be able to recruit humans, though there could always be creative liberty for the game.

That's where book knowledge would help. I haven't read it, so I have no idea whether or not it makes sense for the Parshendi to recruit.

By the books, Parshendi wouldn't recruit. They are at war with the High Princes because on the night of celebration after signing a peace treaty, they assassinated the king. I have absolutely massive doubts the Parshendi would be recruiters.

Thanks, I was just about to ask if anyone who had read the books would know if Parshendi would likely be recruits. Azathmaster is the creator, yes? Seems like from the immersion of the OP and day scene that he is very likely sticking closely to the mechanics and behaviours of the books, so a group that has no thematic ability to recruit in the books will probably not recruit here.

@Karo/Amp - could the Parshendi theoretically be some kind of predator role? Like do they have an elite warrior or mage who could wipe out entire armies by himself? If not, I doubt the 6-6-6-1 or 7-7-7-1 role distribution idea is right.

I don't remember anyone from the Parshendi standing out above any of the others, at least I don't think, but something reminds me of the part where Dalinor is fighting. Wait. You're right. Some Parshendi does who's up, who is much bigger and stronger than the others, but still loses, barely. He and Dalinor respect each other, leave him alive, and depart if I remember right. I don't think he was a king or anything, just a really bad ass.

Another thing I remembered was that the parshendi wore gemshards in their beards. Also, I think Dalinor's camp made some sort of alliance with them at the end.