[Obdigore]

Wait so assail is making dvds of him doing what? Dancing in a thong?

[Assail]

Miss Savage, on 26 February 2013 - 08:18 AM, said:

Assail, on 25 February 2013 - 09:42 PM, said:

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Hahaha, between the photos in this thread and the ones where I was wearing the man thong... well, I suppose it leaves nothing to the imagination hahahaha.

I like this. It's called transparency. A highly sought after skill in business, management, finance, where it's rarely implemented though.

The best thing is, is that I totally see a correlation between me being in a man thong and any business enterprises I may choose to undertake. I'm going to be a millionaire!

Obdigore, on 26 February 2013 - 08:42 AM, said:

Wait so assail is making dvds of him doing what? Dancing in a thong?

Since you asked so politely I'll give you a 5$ discount on the DVD. Originally priced at 25.99$, it's yours for 20.99$!

[Obdigore]

How much for a video of you taking the DVD and moving the thong aside and literally shoving it up your ass?

[Assail]

Obdigore, on 26 February 2013 - 09:49 AM, said:

How much for a video of you taking the DVD and moving the thong aside and literally shoving it up your ass?

Are we talking just the DVD, or the box as well? Hahaha

[Obdigore]

Assail, on 26 February 2013 - 10:09 AM, said:

Obdigore, on 26 February 2013 - 09:49 AM, said:

How much for a video of you taking the DVD and moving the thong aside and literally shoving it up your ass?

Are we talking just the DVD, or the box as well? Hahaha

Just the DVD.

[ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle]

I leave this thread unattended for 24 hours, and anarchy reigns supreme.

Assail, on 25 February 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:

Savage would be the one to definitely talk to concerning the yoga... she told me she had her instructors license or w/e you need to teach the other day, so I'm sure she could give you a fountain of information, and it'll help with that ab issue you talk about later in the post

Don't worry about it man, it comes. As for incline, just ensure you're not at so much of an incline that you're predominately using your shoulders to lift. It's a tricky balance to get, but you should feel the stretch up on the top shelf of your pecks, right below your collar bone. You shouldn't notice a lot of strain in the shoulder. It's going to be there, but it won't be the muscle group supporting the entire exercise. Hopefully that should help you place some markers on what you should be doing with incline.

Don't stress the push ups. It's a burn out exercise purely designed to exhaust your chest. I personally like it because it's a great way to gauge results. I could be wrong in a muscle building and scientific level, but it's always been my firm belief that it's the work you do past the point of exhaustion that really counts, both mentally and physically. Your core will get stronger as you work out, and you'll see the results in your workouts accordingly. Yoga would really help this!

I had shoulder surgery and have been out of the game for a good minute as far as lifting goes and it shows man. Five months will deteriorate your muscles whether you realize it or not. They're going to be weak. Don't beat yourself up about this. Just acknowledge that it's going to take some time to readjust and build your strength up. If you used to be an avid gym junkie, then your muscles will bounce back easily. They'll remember the workouts, the forms, and they'll jump right back into it at a much quicker pace as opposed to someone who has never worked out before. So you've got that going for you.

Everyone is different when it comes to their immunities, and I'm certainly no doctor. I get sick maybe once a year, and maybe it's due to all the shots and shit that I get in the military, but whenever I've started to come down with anything, the first thing I do is get as active as possible. Raising your body temp and sweating out shit is going to give you an edge and naturally raise your immunities due to all the chemicals released when working out. Like I said, not a doctor, but staying in shape, eating healthy and keeping active on a constant basis has always kept me sickness free.

Do that! The use of mirrors has been skewed because most of the time you've got douchebags who just go in there to stare at their usually nonexistent muscles. They were originally implemented for you to critique and watch your form, so do that!

Bent over rows are simple, just make sure not to round your back. Your weight is too heavy if you're rounding your back, best way to do this is to stick your chest out when you're bent over, the same as you would do for squats or deadlifts. I don't know if i put it in my previous post, but bodyweight inverted rows are AWESOME. Try some of those too!

My biceps are unhappy, my back has filed for an early retirement and my forearms have made it clear that they wish to have no further contact with me whatsoever. Yeah, today was killer too, especially as I spent 8 hours crawling around on my knees grinding down platforms in a wooden staircase. Biceps are going to be very unhappy at the arm session tomorrow. But all the exercises went fine. Except for pull-ups. That was a complete disaster. I managed 10 (TEN, COME ON!!) in the first set, and after that, well... I've suppressed the memory of it.

On the bright side, my cough is almost completely gone. I feel confident that I will be able to start doing cardio within a few days, which is sorely needed. Also, I'm working out much more effectively now than I did last year, and back then, in around 10 months, I gained 12kg. It's looking good.

I also mucked up and deleted one of my photos, but I replaced it with something appropriate.

worrywort, on 25 February 2013 - 10:03 PM, said:

Ohhhhhhhhh! But wait, he hasn't even posted his butt.

It's clearly an investment a la Barney Stinson.

Miss Savage, on 26 February 2013 - 08:18 AM, said:

Assail, on 25 February 2013 - 09:42 PM, said:

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Hahaha, between the photos in this thread and the ones where I was wearing the man thong... well, I suppose it leaves nothing to the imagination hahahaha.

I like this. It's called transparency. A highly sought after skill in business, management, finance, where it's rarely implemented though.

Baco Xtath, on 25 February 2013 - 10:42 PM, said:

worrywort, on 25 February 2013 - 09:11 PM, said:

If your butt had a beard I don't even know what they'd do!

My butt has a beard and my wife is less than impressed by it.

Tell her you're a soultaken plainsbear and that's what remains after veering into the human form.

worrywort, on 26 February 2013 - 06:56 AM, said:

All the single ladies.

I'm practically married- I'd better send vids as long as it's still legal! hahaha!

Well, hurry up, then!

This post has been edited by ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle: 26 February 2013 - 08:08 PM

[Assail]

I suppose I should amend my pull ups. I suggest training yourself to start doing overhand pull ups. They engage your back better than underhand does, and underhand usually uses more of your bicep that overhand would. So keep that in mind. Some people find underhand more comfortable (And I did when I started in the gym), but I really do suggest you change that if that's the case.

All that muscle soreness you're getting is great mate, keep it up. Within a couple weeks/months, you'll start to get that soreness less, and you'll eventually start chasing it because it was an indicator of a good workout, which hopefully will only force you to be creative and push yourself further.

Great attitude with it man, it'll all go to plan if you stay dedicated!

[ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle]

Assail, on 28 February 2013 - 05:19 PM, said:

I suppose I should amend my pull ups. I suggest training yourself to start doing overhand pull ups. They engage your back better than underhand does, and underhand usually uses more of your bicep that overhand would. So keep that in mind. Some people find underhand more comfortable (And I did when I started in the gym), but I really do suggest you change that if that's the case.

All that muscle soreness you're getting is great mate, keep it up. Within a couple weeks/months, you'll start to get that soreness less, and you'll eventually start chasing it because it was an indicator of a good workout, which hopefully will only force you to be creative and push yourself further.

Great attitude with it man, it'll all go to plan if you stay dedicated!

Ovearhead pull ups, that would be chins? I'm planning to start doing those again when I am physically able, right now I can muster maybe 3 or 4 and then I'm exhausted. Body weight exercises are a bitch when you're out of shape .

My knees seem fine, by the way, I did both squats and deadlifts today with no trouble whatsoever. I asked a nice fellah to spot my back when I did a few deadlifts, and he corrected my final posture a li'l bit but then it was fine. I also did some light cardio yesterday and today, and ignoring the part of me getting out of breath by just looking at the treadmill, it wasn't that bad. I do abs every other day, but as I mentioned earlier, they're performing like utter crap. I can't even do my favourite exercise (where I take a bench, put it at a steep incline, slap on a quarter-of-a-circle pillow and pull my legs up and down. Kind of. Hard to explain.) because it stresses my abs so much that it hurts. A lot.

I'm loving these workouts, by the way. At first I thought I wasn't gonna be able to spend as much time at the gym as I want to with this setup, but hey, leg-day+abs and some brief cardio took me damn near two hours. Going up the stairs to the dressing room post-workout, I bumped into an old friend from school, which made me instinctively jump back (not because I knew her, but because there suddenly were a pair of legs right in front of me that weren't there half a second ago), only my legs wouldn't really jump, so I half fell backwards, arms flailing, getting a handhold at the last moment and steadying myself. She looked less than impressed.

All in all, 'twas a good day.

[Assail]

ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle, on 28 February 2013 - 06:45 PM, said:

Assail, on 28 February 2013 - 05:19 PM, said:

I suppose I should amend my pull ups. I suggest training yourself to start doing overhand pull ups. They engage your back better than underhand does, and underhand usually uses more of your bicep that overhand would. So keep that in mind. Some people find underhand more comfortable (And I did when I started in the gym), but I really do suggest you change that if that's the case.

All that muscle soreness you're getting is great mate, keep it up. Within a couple weeks/months, you'll start to get that soreness less, and you'll eventually start chasing it because it was an indicator of a good workout, which hopefully will only force you to be creative and push yourself further.

Great attitude with it man, it'll all go to plan if you stay dedicated!

Ovearhead pull ups, that would be chins? I'm planning to start doing those again when I am physically able, right now I can muster maybe 3 or 4 and then I'm exhausted. Body weight exercises are a bitch when you're out of shape .

My knees seem fine, by the way, I did both squats and deadlifts today with no trouble whatsoever. I asked a nice fellah to spot my back when I did a few deadlifts, and he corrected my final posture a li'l bit but then it was fine. I also did some light cardio yesterday and today, and ignoring the part of me getting out of breath by just looking at the treadmill, it wasn't that bad. I do abs every other day, but as I mentioned earlier, they're performing like utter crap. I can't even do my favourite exercise (where I take a bench, put it at a steep incline, slap on a quarter-of-a-circle pillow and pull my legs up and down. Kind of. Hard to explain.) because it stresses my abs so much that it hurts. A lot.

I'm loving these workouts, by the way. At first I thought I wasn't gonna be able to spend as much time at the gym as I want to with this setup, but hey, leg-day+abs and some brief cardio took me damn near two hours. Going up the stairs to the dressing room post-workout, I bumped into an old friend from school, which made me instinctively jump back (not because I knew her, but because there suddenly were a pair of legs right in front of me that weren't there half a second ago), only my legs wouldn't really jump, so I half fell backwards, arms flailing, getting a handhold at the last moment and steadying myself. She looked less than impressed.

All in all, 'twas a good day.

Call them what you will, I've always thought of them as pull ups, its just a matter of your grip that changes what muscles are primarily engaged. Overhand is also a lot more natural for the body to train with, as it's the motion that you would usually pull yourself up anything with.

If you have bands, use those for pullups, or there should be a machine in the gym that can assist you. I built my pull ups by doing a pyramid style workout. I started 1 Pull up, 10 pushups, 2 pull ups, 10 pushups, 3 pull ups, 10 pushups etc etc... all the way up to 5, and then I worked my way back down. As I got better, I would reduce my rest and increase my pullups, so instead of doing 1-5, I'd do 2-6, 3-7, 4-8, 5-10 etc etc, all with pushups in between. Try that if you wanna get your pull ups up.

As for abs, train them every day if possible! Your core is integral to most workouts. I know what you're talking about, leg raises basically? You keep em straight and hold the bench up by your head or down by your side?

Oh yeah man, this stuff will get time consuming. Just enjoy the gym, because you have to enjoy it and love if you're gonna commit a serious amount of time to it every day. The gym is always great for the girls I've been in a similar situation, it was after a really heavy leg day and I was walking down the outside stairs to my car and the impact of going down the stairs made my legs give out. So I ate shit down the stairs, luckily with no one around hahaha

[ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle]

Assail, on 28 February 2013 - 07:30 PM, said:

ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle, on 28 February 2013 - 06:45 PM, said:

Assail, on 28 February 2013 - 05:19 PM, said:

I suppose I should amend my pull ups. I suggest training yourself to start doing overhand pull ups. They engage your back better than underhand does, and underhand usually uses more of your bicep that overhand would. So keep that in mind. Some people find underhand more comfortable (And I did when I started in the gym), but I really do suggest you change that if that's the case.

All that muscle soreness you're getting is great mate, keep it up. Within a couple weeks/months, you'll start to get that soreness less, and you'll eventually start chasing it because it was an indicator of a good workout, which hopefully will only force you to be creative and push yourself further.

Great attitude with it man, it'll all go to plan if you stay dedicated!

Ovearhead pull ups, that would be chins? I'm planning to start doing those again when I am physically able, right now I can muster maybe 3 or 4 and then I'm exhausted. Body weight exercises are a bitch when you're out of shape .

My knees seem fine, by the way, I did both squats and deadlifts today with no trouble whatsoever. I asked a nice fellah to spot my back when I did a few deadlifts, and he corrected my final posture a li'l bit but then it was fine. I also did some light cardio yesterday and today, and ignoring the part of me getting out of breath by just looking at the treadmill, it wasn't that bad. I do abs every other day, but as I mentioned earlier, they're performing like utter crap. I can't even do my favourite exercise (where I take a bench, put it at a steep incline, slap on a quarter-of-a-circle pillow and pull my legs up and down. Kind of. Hard to explain.) because it stresses my abs so much that it hurts. A lot.

I'm loving these workouts, by the way. At first I thought I wasn't gonna be able to spend as much time at the gym as I want to with this setup, but hey, leg-day+abs and some brief cardio took me damn near two hours. Going up the stairs to the dressing room post-workout, I bumped into an old friend from school, which made me instinctively jump back (not because I knew her, but because there suddenly were a pair of legs right in front of me that weren't there half a second ago), only my legs wouldn't really jump, so I half fell backwards, arms flailing, getting a handhold at the last moment and steadying myself. She looked less than impressed.

All in all, 'twas a good day.

Call them what you will, I've always thought of them as pull ups, its just a matter of your grip that changes what muscles are primarily engaged. Overhand is also a lot more natural for the body to train with, as it's the motion that you would usually pull yourself up anything with.

If you have bands, use those for pullups, or there should be a machine in the gym that can assist you. I built my pull ups by doing a pyramid style workout. I started 1 Pull up, 10 pushups, 2 pull ups, 10 pushups, 3 pull ups, 10 pushups etc etc... all the way up to 5, and then I worked my way back down. As I got better, I would reduce my rest and increase my pullups, so instead of doing 1-5, I'd do 2-6, 3-7, 4-8, 5-10 etc etc, all with pushups in between. Try that if you wanna get your pull ups up.

As for abs, train them every day if possible! Your core is integral to most workouts. I know what you're talking about, leg raises basically? You keep em straight and hold the bench up by your head or down by your side?

Oh yeah man, this stuff will get time consuming. Just enjoy the gym, because you have to enjoy it and love if you're gonna commit a serious amount of time to it every day. The gym is always great for the girls I've been in a similar situation, it was after a really heavy leg day and I was walking down the outside stairs to my car and the impact of going down the stairs made my legs give out. So I ate shit down the stairs, luckily with no one around hahaha

Haha, yes, leg raises are what they are, I loved those bastards because they'd push my abs to the breaking point (and past, as is the situation now). I usually don't know how to name the exercises I'm doing (that goes for both Swedish and English), which is why I asked about the chins thing. I might try that pull up/push up routine, my lack of competence in lifting my own body is disturbing to me.

And I can't train my abs every day, they whine incessantly at this point xD. I'm trying to get them in every other day, but sometimes it just doesn't work. I can go a week without exercising them and they're still all sore, I can't recall it was this bad even when I started for the very first time.

I love being at the gym, it's what I enjoy most in my day. For some reason, going to the gym after work (when I'm already tired) is even more enjoyable to me. I really like getting home at around 6-8 pm after work and gym, eat some food, watch a movie and then go to sleep. I'm not that hot on spare time anymore, it can sometimes bore me to the point of despair.

This post has been edited by ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle: 28 February 2013 - 08:15 PM

[ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle]

I'm having some amount of trouble getting that nice burn in the chest area. I did chest today and I feel that I get the most tired in my supporting muscle. I have three theories as to how this can be: 1. My muscle memory is a bit shoddy. 2. My supporting muscle groups just aren't up to snuff yet. 1+2. A combination of the two aforementioned theories.

Also, my mother happens to have one of them super-expensive vibration boards that she uses in her job as a physical therapist for dogs (no, I'm not making this shit up, that's what she actually does), and for the last week I've been taking a lie-down on it after each work-out for 5-10 minutes, at 5-8Hz. It's supposed to relax the muscle and stimulate muscle growth or some new age/hippe stuff like that.

I updated the OP to reflect recent changes. I'm making some slow progress here, I've gained around 2kg (4lbs), have slightly increased in strength (very slightly...) and have got just over 3 weeks worth of pictures (I have yet to miss a day, although i accidentally deleted one...). Considering I was still a bit sickly the first two weeks, I can't really expect more than that at this point.

This post has been edited by ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle: 04 March 2013 - 02:51 PM

[Assail]

ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle, on 04 March 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

I'm having some amount of trouble getting that nice burn in the chest area. I did chest today and I feel that I get the most tired in my supporting muscle. I have three theories as to how this can be: 1. My muscle memory is a bit shoddy. 2. My supporting muscle groups just aren't up to snuff yet. 1+2. A combination of the two aforementioned theories.

Also, my mother happens to have one of them super-expensive vibration boards that she uses in her job as a physical therapist for dogs (no, I'm not making this shit up, that's what she actually does), and for the last week I've been taking a lie-down on it after each work-out for 5-10 minutes, at 5-8Hz. It's supposed to relax the muscle and stimulate muscle growth or some new age/hippe stuff like that.

I updated the OP to reflect recent changes. I'm making some slow progress here, I've gained around 2kg (4lbs), have slightly increased in strength (very slightly...) and have got just over 3 weeks worth of pictures (I have yet to miss a day, although i accidentally deleted one...). Considering I was still a bit sickly the first two weeks, I can't really expect more than that at this point.

You're right in assuming that your supporting muscle groups are going to be taking some pressure. The thing to pick up on is when you notice yourself relying more on those supporting muscle groups rather than the muscle group that you're trying to train, you need to lessen the weight. If you're looking a burn on a muscle group, do high reps low weight. Take the bar and do it slowly for 150 reps, or with 25 lbs on, do it for 100 reps. You'll feel your burn.

Can't say I've ever used a vibration board for dogs before lol, but give it a go and let me know if it helps at all!

Don't worry about your weight gain. As you go through all of this, it's going to fluctuate depending on how hydrated you are, the types of food you're putting into your body etc etc. It's way too early to gauge any type of progress. Keep it up though mate. Sounds like things are going well.

[ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle]

Assail, on 04 March 2013 - 11:36 PM, said:

ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle, on 04 March 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

I'm having some amount of trouble getting that nice burn in the chest area. I did chest today and I feel that I get the most tired in my supporting muscle. I have three theories as to how this can be: 1. My muscle memory is a bit shoddy. 2. My supporting muscle groups just aren't up to snuff yet. 1+2. A combination of the two aforementioned theories.

Also, my mother happens to have one of them super-expensive vibration boards that she uses in her job as a physical therapist for dogs (no, I'm not making this shit up, that's what she actually does), and for the last week I've been taking a lie-down on it after each work-out for 5-10 minutes, at 5-8Hz. It's supposed to relax the muscle and stimulate muscle growth or some new age/hippe stuff like that.

I updated the OP to reflect recent changes. I'm making some slow progress here, I've gained around 2kg (4lbs), have slightly increased in strength (very slightly...) and have got just over 3 weeks worth of pictures (I have yet to miss a day, although i accidentally deleted one...). Considering I was still a bit sickly the first two weeks, I can't really expect more than that at this point.

You're right in assuming that your supporting muscle groups are going to be taking some pressure. The thing to pick up on is when you notice yourself relying more on those supporting muscle groups rather than the muscle group that you're trying to train, you need to lessen the weight. If you're looking a burn on a muscle group, do high reps low weight. Take the bar and do it slowly for 150 reps, or with 25 lbs on, do it for 100 reps. You'll feel your burn.

Can't say I've ever used a vibration board for dogs before lol, but give it a go and let me know if it helps at all!

Don't worry about your weight gain. As you go through all of this, it's going to fluctuate depending on how hydrated you are, the types of food you're putting into your body etc etc. It's way too early to gauge any type of progress. Keep it up though mate. Sounds like things are going well.

I did lessen the weight significantly and it got a bit better. I guess that it worked, too, because my chest is pretty sore today after all.

The vibration board is actually not specifically for dogs, it's designed for physical therapy for people (doing vibration workouts is apparently quite effective as rehabilitation), it just happens to be of a convenient size for dogs.

I guess you're right about the weight part. On the other hand, weight will always fluctuate like that ^^

And yes, things are going splendid, overall. I'm feeling pretty great at the moment.


EDIT: A question for you regarding fish-oil: Just omega 3 or omega 3+6? The latter is quite a bit more expensive, about 50% more so.

This post has been edited by ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle: 05 March 2013 - 07:29 AM

[Assail]

ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle, on 05 March 2013 - 07:17 AM, said:

Assail, on 04 March 2013 - 11:36 PM, said:

ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle, on 04 March 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

I'm having some amount of trouble getting that nice burn in the chest area. I did chest today and I feel that I get the most tired in my supporting muscle. I have three theories as to how this can be: 1. My muscle memory is a bit shoddy. 2. My supporting muscle groups just aren't up to snuff yet. 1+2. A combination of the two aforementioned theories.

Also, my mother happens to have one of them super-expensive vibration boards that she uses in her job as a physical therapist for dogs (no, I'm not making this shit up, that's what she actually does), and for the last week I've been taking a lie-down on it after each work-out for 5-10 minutes, at 5-8Hz. It's supposed to relax the muscle and stimulate muscle growth or some new age/hippe stuff like that.

I updated the OP to reflect recent changes. I'm making some slow progress here, I've gained around 2kg (4lbs), have slightly increased in strength (very slightly...) and have got just over 3 weeks worth of pictures (I have yet to miss a day, although i accidentally deleted one...). Considering I was still a bit sickly the first two weeks, I can't really expect more than that at this point.

You're right in assuming that your supporting muscle groups are going to be taking some pressure. The thing to pick up on is when you notice yourself relying more on those supporting muscle groups rather than the muscle group that you're trying to train, you need to lessen the weight. If you're looking a burn on a muscle group, do high reps low weight. Take the bar and do it slowly for 150 reps, or with 25 lbs on, do it for 100 reps. You'll feel your burn.

Can't say I've ever used a vibration board for dogs before lol, but give it a go and let me know if it helps at all!

Don't worry about your weight gain. As you go through all of this, it's going to fluctuate depending on how hydrated you are, the types of food you're putting into your body etc etc. It's way too early to gauge any type of progress. Keep it up though mate. Sounds like things are going well.

I did lessen the weight significantly and it got a bit better. I guess that it worked, too, because my chest is pretty sore today after all.

The vibration board is actually not specifically for dogs, it's designed for physical therapy for people (doing vibration workouts is apparently quite effective as rehabilitation), it just happens to be of a convenient size for dogs.

I guess you're right about the weight part. On the other hand, weight will always fluctuate like that ^^

And yes, things are going splendid, overall. I'm feeling pretty great at the moment.


EDIT: A question for you regarding fish-oil: Just omega 3 or omega 3+6? The latter is quite a bit more expensive, about 50% more so.

Right on. Don't specifically go off of what I've given you. Experiment and see what works best for you. We're all different physiologically, so keep that in mind.

Yeah I know what you're talking about. I use a vibration blade thing as one of my shoulder rehab workouts, I hate it

Way too early to gauge weight accurately, so really, don't worry about it. I'm glad you've got a mindset as you do man, that's half the battle.

Concerning the fish oil, I'm just taking Omega 3. I don't know if there's added benefits for 3+6, but 3 has worked just fine for me. Joint strength and pain has been reduced and I attribute it to my fast recover from my shoulder surgery, largely. That and the wonders of youth Save yourself some money, you'll most likely have the same effect.

[Mrs Savagely Wishy Washy]

I haven't forgotten the yoga vids... need a moment to look into it and find you a good one.

[ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle]

Assail, on 05 March 2013 - 08:43 AM, said:

Right on. Don't specifically go off of what I've given you. Experiment and see what works best for you. We're all different physiologically, so keep that in mind.

Yeah I know what you're talking about. I use a vibration blade thing as one of my shoulder rehab workouts, I hate it

Way too early to gauge weight accurately, so really, don't worry about it. I'm glad you've got a mindset as you do man, that's half the battle.

Concerning the fish oil, I'm just taking Omega 3. I don't know if there's added benefits for 3+6, but 3 has worked just fine for me. Joint strength and pain has been reduced and I attribute it to my fast recover from my shoulder surgery, largely. That and the wonders of youth Save yourself some money, you'll most likely have the same effect.

I have it as a template, most of the exercises go well with me, but some I've switched out. Like the decline flys, instead of lying down pusing up I switched it to standing up pushing down, since I found that a lot more comfy.

Okay, so I'll go with the Omega 3. Gonna put in an order for 4kg of whey protein as well, and gym gloves, everything in the store is 20% off today

EDIT: Horseshit, it was only until 15:00 today, missed the window with about 5 and a half hour. Dammit. Well, that's unfortunate.

EDIT 2: Just found out that another dealer I buy stuff from got a shipment of 4kg bags of whey-100, and they've got a deal selling them at the price of whey-80 (i.e. 41% off). I was gonna buy a bag this weekend but they ran out, and the 41% off deal runs out tomorrow morning. It's the Natural flavour (which apparently tastes like ass), but hey, at least no added substances. And this particular brand is tested against 'roids, which is good since the market is flooded with stuff that contains illegal substances (it's virtually unchecked), and being caught with something like that (the gym staff sometimes goes around demanding swab samples) can get you suspended from every form of organized sports for up to 2 years. Which would suck.

Miss Savage, on 05 March 2013 - 09:03 AM, said:

I haven't forgotten the yoga vids... need a moment to look into it and find you a good one.

Oh, no worries. I myself have mastered the fine art of procrastination, so I don't really mind when others take their time. Not in any way implying that you are procrastinating, you may or may not be busy, I know nothing of that. Either way, no worries

This post has been edited by ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle: 05 March 2013 - 07:53 PM

[Assail]

ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle, on 05 March 2013 - 07:23 PM, said:

Assail, on 05 March 2013 - 08:43 AM, said:

Right on. Don't specifically go off of what I've given you. Experiment and see what works best for you. We're all different physiologically, so keep that in mind.

Yeah I know what you're talking about. I use a vibration blade thing as one of my shoulder rehab workouts, I hate it

Way too early to gauge weight accurately, so really, don't worry about it. I'm glad you've got a mindset as you do man, that's half the battle.

Concerning the fish oil, I'm just taking Omega 3. I don't know if there's added benefits for 3+6, but 3 has worked just fine for me. Joint strength and pain has been reduced and I attribute it to my fast recover from my shoulder surgery, largely. That and the wonders of youth Save yourself some money, you'll most likely have the same effect.

I have it as a template, most of the exercises go well with me, but some I've switched out. Like the decline flys, instead of lying down pusing up I switched it to standing up pushing down, since I found that a lot more comfy.

Okay, so I'll go with the Omega 3. Gonna put in an order for 4kg of whey protein as well, and gym gloves, everything in the store is 20% off today

EDIT: Horseshit, it was only until 15:00 today, missed the window with about 5 and a half hour. Dammit. Well, that's unfortunate.

EDIT 2: Just found out that another dealer I buy stuff from got a shipment of 4kg bags of whey-100, and they've got a deal selling them at the price of whey-80 (i.e. 41% off). I was gonna buy a bag this weekend but they ran out, and the 41% off deal runs out tomorrow morning. It's the Natural flavour (which apparently tastes like ass), but hey, at least no added substances. And this particular brand is tested against 'roids, which is good since the market is flooded with stuff that contains illegal substances (it's virtually unchecked), and being caught with something like that (the gym staff sometimes goes around demanding swab samples) can get you suspended from every form of organized sports for up to 2 years. Which would suck.

Miss Savage, on 05 March 2013 - 09:03 AM, said:

I haven't forgotten the yoga vids... need a moment to look into it and find you a good one.

Oh, no worries. I myself have mastered the fine art of procrastination, so I don't really mind when others take their time. Not in any way implying that you are procrastinating, you may or may not be busy, I know nothing of that. Either way, no worries

Sounds like a plan. Sorry you missed the sale haha.

What exactly do you mean by illegal substances? I can personally vouch for the fact that the only way they're finding out you're juicing is by a blood test, or a comparison of before/after testosterone levels, which is also a blood test either way.

[ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle]

Assail, on 09 March 2013 - 12:43 AM, said:

ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle, on 05 March 2013 - 07:23 PM, said:

Assail, on 05 March 2013 - 08:43 AM, said:

Right on. Don't specifically go off of what I've given you. Experiment and see what works best for you. We're all different physiologically, so keep that in mind.

Yeah I know what you're talking about. I use a vibration blade thing as one of my shoulder rehab workouts, I hate it

Way too early to gauge weight accurately, so really, don't worry about it. I'm glad you've got a mindset as you do man, that's half the battle.

Concerning the fish oil, I'm just taking Omega 3. I don't know if there's added benefits for 3+6, but 3 has worked just fine for me. Joint strength and pain has been reduced and I attribute it to my fast recover from my shoulder surgery, largely. That and the wonders of youth Save yourself some money, you'll most likely have the same effect.

I have it as a template, most of the exercises go well with me, but some I've switched out. Like the decline flys, instead of lying down pusing up I switched it to standing up pushing down, since I found that a lot more comfy.

Okay, so I'll go with the Omega 3. Gonna put in an order for 4kg of whey protein as well, and gym gloves, everything in the store is 20% off today

EDIT: Horseshit, it was only until 15:00 today, missed the window with about 5 and a half hour. Dammit. Well, that's unfortunate.

EDIT 2: Just found out that another dealer I buy stuff from got a shipment of 4kg bags of whey-100, and they've got a deal selling them at the price of whey-80 (i.e. 41% off). I was gonna buy a bag this weekend but they ran out, and the 41% off deal runs out tomorrow morning. It's the Natural flavour (which apparently tastes like ass), but hey, at least no added substances. And this particular brand is tested against 'roids, which is good since the market is flooded with stuff that contains illegal substances (it's virtually unchecked), and being caught with something like that (the gym staff sometimes goes around demanding swab samples) can get you suspended from every form of organized sports for up to 2 years. Which would suck.

Miss Savage, on 05 March 2013 - 09:03 AM, said:

I haven't forgotten the yoga vids... need a moment to look into it and find you a good one.

Oh, no worries. I myself have mastered the fine art of procrastination, so I don't really mind when others take their time. Not in any way implying that you are procrastinating, you may or may not be busy, I know nothing of that. Either way, no worries

Sounds like a plan. Sorry you missed the sale haha.

What exactly do you mean by illegal substances? I can personally vouch for the fact that the only way they're finding out you're juicing is by a blood test, or a comparison of before/after testosterone levels, which is also a blood test either way.

Meh, I've strained my right shoulder pretty badly, been out of action since wednesday -.-. It's getting better now, though.

By illegal substances, I mean 'roids, testo and stuff like that. A daily newspaper did a check up on a lot of supplements sold in Sweden, and found that 25% had some kind of illegal substance (they weren't very specific), and 15% had steroids in them. Those numbers are kind of high.


Ah, I see. Then I don't know how they do it, but I do know that they have the right to take samples from people to test for steroids, but them blood sampling people in the gym just seems unlikely...

[Assail]

Yeah as far as I know, and the military over in the states has rather rigorous drug testing, the only way to test for steroids or any real illegal substance as far as weight lifting supplements goes is by a blood test. Even then it's extremely expensive.

Do your research, find out what they're talking about being "banned substances", and just be careful if that's how it is in Sweden. I know that there are plenty of testosterone boosters (completely legal, atleast in the U.S.) and supplements that will give you a little more umph in that department. If you ever intend on taking steroids, let me know personally, as I can offer some advice (not much), in that field, and I feel it would be better to get advice from people rather than jumping into it blindly. Just a friendly heads up, because it's certainly an area that has undergone a lot of research over the years since it was first used in conjunction with weightlifting, and while it can provide a vast number of benefits, there are still quite a few drawbacks if abused... might like anything though.

That's an entirely different tangent, I just wanted to throw that out there as at some point you may be exposed to it and I'd rather you had a heads up about it before you either start leaning toward the "OMG ITS FUCKING AWFUL FOR YOU NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER", or "FUCK YEAH IM GOING TO PUMP MYSELF FULL OF 4CCs OF D-BOL AND ANADROL EVERY DAY FOR 12 WEEKS!".

Hope all is well mate

[Mrs Savagely Wishy Washy]

alritey!
so - i have had a look at what's around, i didn't really like any dvds i saw but i found this website here with this particular vid (1 of 4) which is great because i got to take a close look at it and could see whether it's any good or not. it is!

http://www.myfreeyog...ga-1-of-4-.html

I thought this is a nice introduction to sun salutations. don't be fooled by the name- except it will get you hot. I suggest you start with this, do it for a couple of weeks, see if it works for you. if you feel the 3 As and 3 Bs are no longer challenging you, add one more each, and in the end try and do 5 As and 5 Bs. Once this feels easy and you feel comfortable with the poses, speed it up!

She gives clear instructions and pays attention to a lot of details and says a lot of the stuff we were told to say in our teacher training.

The plank stuff in between is to add more strength and increase the heat, it's not classically part of the sequence.
The only thing I would like to add is: take it easy when starting, try and get good technique, good alignments and move with awareness, so that you know what you are doing and where your body parts are in space and what they are doing. This develops balance and this funny thing called proprioception.

When starting, keep a microbend in your knees when you are doing forward bends if your hamstrings aren't super flexible. If holding all the planks gets too much, go on your knees - but blokes don't have that problem so much , men have better upper body strength than women. When in Warrior pose (the lunge), make sure to keep the backleg straight ,no bend- that can damage your knee in time. Important! the shoulders-try not to crunch up the shoulders or round your upper back but keep the shoulders at ease and back and down, this will work the muscles of the upper back and will make a big difference when you progress.

I picked up that you have strained your shoulders: be careful- try gently whether these exercises are okay with your shoulders, if not, wait until you're better. There are a lot of upside down positions that will work the shoulders -and importantly the wrists.

Here is a great intro to dynamic yoga where he addresses the issue (unfortunately, you need to be a member to get the whole vid, but what he says about shoulder movement and wrists and hand position in the first three minutes is really good and important):

http://www.myyogaonl...a-for-beginners

As to the breath, this is what makes yoga yoga and not gymnastics: try and use Ujjay Breath from the beginning. It's a breathing technique that will increase the heat of the body but it is also calming, particularly useful when you take your body into weird places - http://www.youtube.c...h?v=iy4PRzHP9XM

I don't want to go into great length (but can do if you are interested ) but breathing is intimately connected with the state of our physiology and by manipulating the breath you can change your physiology: if stressed or anxious the breath becomes shallow,where as if you are happy or lauging or relaxed you breathe more deeply, and you can induce either state by changing the way you breathe.

I think that should get you started safely.If you like it, you can go through the other 3 vids of the first one- I like them because they are only short, and to be honest, all the big Yogis say that all you need to do really to keep healthy and flexible are the sun saluts anyways!

If you have any more questions, just drop me a line.
let me know how you get on!

have fun wohooooo!

This post has been edited by Miss Savagely Wishy Washy : 12 March 2013 - 08:46 AM