Kilava, on 27 March 2013 - 12:02 PM, said:
Ampelas, on 27 March 2013 - 11:48 AM, said:
Kilava, on 27 March 2013 - 08:07 AM, said:
Ampelas, on 26 March 2013 - 11:15 PM, said:
Silchas Ruin, on 26 March 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:
Ampelas, on 26 March 2013 - 10:57 PM, said:
Nenanda's role strikes me as either scum or serial killer - making sure a death happens during the day no matter what.
Zahska was town in espers though...
I don't think we can think about it that way, though. It would just be a little too easy. Otherwise it would be too easy to say, "Well, that person is town, because that role in a previous game was town, and that person is scum, because that role was scum..." If the number of deaths per day/night stays about as low as we've had thus far, then it would become a little too easy to identify the good/bad guys. Then it just comes down to identifying whether they're in your faction or not. Huh, having written all that and looked over it, you could be on to something too.
I'm not discounting the fact that, just as with Eloth, Nenanda could have been one or the other, but just in the context of this game, it strikes me as more of a scummy role.
Your statement here makes me think you have scum roles and most likely are scum and are trying to make CF's look completely useless.
There are sure to be more than one death a night so full CF's just make things more interesting.
You are trying to sew seeds of doubt about cf's and what they most likely mean if they come up scum in previous games.
Was The Jesus role not a Jester previously?...yes he was...and he is a jester here.
So we already have more proof on the side that CF's are more revealing than simply a name and that roles are not falling far from the preverbal tree.
I know my roles are not conflicting to the previous games...so why are you so adamant to dissuade us to believe that a scum CF wont necessarily mean scum?
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still catching up so bare with me and my coffee breath.
And what about roles which were previously in faction games? Are those going to be town or scum? Yeah, not so black and white as you make it out to be, then. You also fail to note that I concede that Silchas could very well have a point.
This is a faction game...i was not talking about faction roles, they are obviously going to appear too.
You seemed to make it out as, If we ever do get an actual straight up scum role then it should not be taken so literally.
And obviously you would concede a little, you wouldn't want to be too obvious with your nay saying now would you?
just calling it as i see it.
If all the alts are completely ambiguous, except the poor jester, then this game is a sham and we are just going to spend the next 6 weeks shooting in the dark, pretending we know what the hell we are talking about.
So wait, wait, help me out here because I'm getting a little confused.
Am I being adamant that we can't trust CFs, or am I conceding that they might be? Because you've now stated both things, so you can see why I would be confused. Poor me.
What I was saying is that we should be careful, and not immediately jump to one or another conclusion unless it really is that straightforward (if someone CFs as what was an RI role, for instance). In the case of Isabelle Paix, which is what I was discussing at the time, it is clearly not so straightforward. I would argue that it's not as simple in the case of Nenanda either.
However, I concede (!!
) that you bring up a good point in the Jester being a previous Jester role.
And as for your last line there - pray, how is that different to what we usually do?
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