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#581 User is offline   Path-Shaper 

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 02:26 AM

Tarrlok had led the Republic City Council with a one track mind. Kill the Equalists, they stop being a problem. His leadership, however, led to the deaths of two of Republic City's benders. Public opinion for his task force plunged, and Tarrlok's popularity went with it. He felt that his last chance to win the public's good opinion was to kill Amon. He had discovered that Amon was, in fact, his brother Noatakk. He had not shared this with anyone, knowing that it would be another hit to his popularity. Unfortunately, Amon was well guarded, he would only get one chance. He wired himself with bombs, and hid along one of the dark alleyways in Republic City. As the Amon walked by, he ran out to blow himself up with him. Team Avatar had chosen that moment, however, to raid the Equalists in an attempt to stop them. Just as Tarrlok ran towards Amon, Bolin jumped in front of him. His finger slipped on the trigger and they both exploded.

Denesmet is dead. He was Tarrlok.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 02:33 AM

It is Day 2. 26 hours and 27 minutes remaining
26 Players still alive: Ampelas, Ay Estos, Bek Okhan, Bendal Home, D'riss, Demelain, Desra, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Karosis, Kilava, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Omtose, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Tellan, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama

14 votes to lynch, 13 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Tellan )
1 Vote for Ryllandaras ( Bendal Home )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Ay Estos, Bek Okhan, D'riss, Demelain, Desra, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Karosis, Kilava, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Omtose, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 02:35 AM

View PostRyllandaras, on 27 March 2013 - 01:56 AM, said:

Ok, so I read through Ay's posts and compared them to Eloth and Aranatha. After a couple of reads I found something...


Aranatha uses Double quotes...

View PostAranatha, on 25 March 2013 - 05:53 PM, said:

Is Obdi's "the TWO" game reffed in the OP? that game had 2 scum teams with fucked up numbers.



Also, the usual balance is 2:1 min for town:scum ratio. I guess it depends how many symps there are.

also indies--1 is meh for town, 1 is just annoying (jester) and one is openly hostile (SK). SK is probably a pred role or smth.



Eloth uses Double Quotes...

View PostEloth, on 26 March 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

Great googly-moogly!

You go away for a good night's sleep, and half a train builds on you on nothing.

Just for the record, as far as I can see, the case on me is that I was trying to push the "no FM thing," according to people.

When really, it's just a couple of people immediately latching on to the first thing that someone has said that could possibly make them look scummy. And really, I argued both sides of the argument on that one, which I will prove momentarily via a bit of quote fu.


Aranatha again ...

View PostAranatha, on 26 March 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

"hey guys I voted for a train I don't like. Aranatha didn't vote for this train that I don't like, but voted for anyways. He might've given reasons, but I don't know I didn't read them, I was too busy voting for a train i don't like".

Ffs, we have 1/3 of the posters sitting at 5 posts or less. Theres plenty ebnough sheeple to get a bad lynch w/o my assistance


Ay uses SINGLE quotes....

View PostAy Estos, on 26 March 2013 - 11:13 PM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 26 March 2013 - 11:08 PM, said:

View PostAy Estos, on 26 March 2013 - 10:45 PM, said:

I wonder if Nenanda gets to use her dead abilities until she's revived tomorrow. If so, it will be important to get a lynch, otherwise she has power over today's lynch.


I don't think Zahska can use her abilities anymore as now shes dead shell have switched roles and have new abilities afaik.


Well, if I read the op correctly, she doesn't come back into the game until the next dawn phase, so she could still get to use her 'as dead' ability. The point is moot, I'm basically just saying that we need to actually lynch instead of leaving it up to the chance that Nenanda could control it.


And again SINGLE quotes.....

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View PostMonok Ochem, on 26 March 2013 - 11:12 PM, said:

To clarify and elaborate, this from the OP:

"When a player dies, they are given a new alt and respawn with their next role at the next Dawn phase. After dying and before respawning, they cannot perform or be the target of any actions. Any remaining abilities, such as BPs, do not carry over to the new role (in a few circumstances there are benefits or limitations tied directly to a meta-role, which do carry over). When a player's roles have all died, they are eliminated from the game and can come to SH."

Not sure how an esper's role would work in these circumstances.


Yeah, it's mildly open to interpretation, but the whole 'they cannot perform or be the target of any actions' thing pretty much discounts it, I think. Oh well, it was just a thought.


Pretty inconsistent? Change of wordstyle?

Nenanda uses Single quotes...

View PostNenanda, on 25 March 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

Caught up.. and not sure what there WAS exactly to catch up on, but oh well.

I believe someone may have said this already, but isn't speculating about roles/mechanics a bit pointless atm? Or for the first few days probably, due to the nature of this particular game.

The one infinitesimally 'reasonable' vote would be for Ryl. And despite Bendal Home pushing it strongly (which may be strange in and of itself), it IS Day 1 and we can't just sit around/spam the thread.

Well we COULD, but I don't like post-padding if I have nothing of substance to say. My vote is definitely not set in stone for now, but we need so many to make a lynch, so I feel comfortable leaving this here:

vote Ryllandaras





EDIT: removed a word/typo



I don't think that Ay is either Eloth OR Aranatha. We also havent seen anything indicating that Nenanda activated another alt. I'm not sure how this mechanic could work to activate an alt before we got the death scene, but I don't think that Ay is Eloth or Aranatha.


People are around to discuss. I am not buying it. Doesn't make sense with the mechanics D'rek has provided. I am wondering why you bring up such a point with this fatal flaw. Maybe because you were on the back burner next to D'riss yesterday.

Also looking at the content of all five alts, I am concerned that Eloth sounds stylistically a lot more like Ay than Bek. Bek also uses the short, curt, grammarless phraseology similar to the jester, albeit a little more sullen in tone. Plus, Bek appears to be refusing to talk.

So no Ryll, I don't think you are on to something with the quotes. (Try again? :p )

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 02:36 AM

Here's the dossier on

Tarrlok (Republic City Faction)

You are the representative for the Northern Water Tribe on the United Republic Council and also serve as its chairman. You are an ambitious politician, considered fair-minded and likable by the general public; however, behind closed doors, you are a manipulative man who holds a long-standing rivalry with Councilman Tenzin. You seek to fight the Anti-bending Revolution with brute force rather than peaceful negotiation. You are willing to go to extremes to win the conflict against the Equalists, even if it means fanning the flames of aggression and risking the lives of innocent people.

Skills

Water bending (Night Action) – You may heal a target. This will prevent any night kill actions against them.

Blood bending (Night Action) – You may use this ability once every three nights. You take control of a player for one full night cycle. You are given a list of his/her abilities and you may choose which ability they must use for that night cycle.

Redemption (Day Action) – You may use this ability once per game. You have a dark secret, your father is Yakone, a powerful crime lord who threatened Republic City for many years with his blood bending abilities before they were permanently removed by Avatar Aang. Furthermore, you are almost certain that Amon is your brother, Noatak, and thus a water bender with the ability to blood bend without the need of a full moon. To trigger this ability, you must say the following on-thread: “[insert alt name], I know you are Amon, Noatak, my brother. I am sorry, but I cannot let you do this to my nation.” You will then perform a ninja action, killing both yourself and the player you have chosen, whether they are Amon or not.

Victory Conditions

You must kill Amon using your Redemption ability, and Republic City must have at least one member alive/retaining their bending abilities when Amon dies.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 02:37 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 March 2013 - 02:26 AM, said:

Tarrlok (Republic City Faction)
You are the representative for the Northern Water Tribe on the United Republic Council and also serve as its chairman. You are an ambitious politician, considered fair-minded and likable by the general public; however, behind closed doors, you are a manipulative man who holds a long-standing rivalry with Councilman Tenzin. You seek to fight the Anti-bending Revolution with brute force rather than peaceful negotiation. You are willing to go to extremes to win the conflict against the Equalists, even if it means fanning the flames of aggression and risking the lives of innocent people.

Skills

Water bending (Night Action) – You may heal a target. This will prevent any night kill actions against them.

Blood bending (Night Action) – You may use this ability once every three nights. You take control of a player for one full night cycle. You are given a list of his/her abilities and you may choose which ability they must use for that night cycle.

Redemption (Day Action) – You may use this ability once per game. You have a dark secret, your father is Yakone, a powerful crime lord who threatened Republic City for many years with his blood bending abilities before they were permanently removed by Avatar Aang. Furthermore, you are almost certain that Amon is your brother, Noatak, and thus a water bender with the ability to blood bend without the need of a full moon. To trigger this ability, you must say the following on-thread: "[insert alt name], I know you are Amon, Noatak, my brother. I am sorry, but I cannot let you do this to my nation." You will then perform a ninja action, killing both yourself and the player you have chosen, whether they are Amon or not.

Victory Conditions

You must kill Amon using your Redemption ability, and Republic City must have at least one member alive/retaining their bending abilities when Amon dies.



Could be a town role, I guess. Bloodbending kind of works like a find and control at the same time, that's interesting.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 02:40 AM

That's good to know your still around Ay. Care to comment on why you sound more like Eloth than Ara?

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 02:41 AM

View PostAy Estos, on 27 March 2013 - 02:37 AM, said:



Could be a town role, I guess. Bloodbending kind of works like a find and control at the same time, that's interesting.


Question is, who was the target last night, an what did they do?

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 02:45 AM

Path-Shaper said:

1364351581[/url]' post='1042482']
It is Day 2. 26 hours and 27 minutes remaining
26Players still alive: Ampelas, Ay Estos, Bek Okhan, Bendal Home, D'riss, Demelain, Desra, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Karosis, Kilava, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Omtose, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Tellan, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama

14 votes to lynch, 13 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Tellan )
1 Vote for Ryllandaras ( Bendal Home )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Ay Estos, Bek Okhan, D'riss, Demelain, Desra, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Karosis, Kilava, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Omtose, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama


Twenty six players left. We started with 28 and 1 was lynched and 3 NKd. Only two have activated new alts. I think Jester lost and left the game, not sure about the others.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 02:45 AM

The quotes idea might be good for later in the game when more people have died and quotes can be used to trace players from alt to alt, but as of now, as Monok pointed out, theres too much evidence conplicating your idea that i can't rely on it with only 3 deaths, one of whom cant be alive yet, and who you suggest is already reincarnated in a new alt

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 02:46 AM

Now I need to walk away from the computer and go to sleep.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 02:48 AM

View PostRyllandaras, on 27 March 2013 - 02:45 AM, said:

Path-Shaper said:

1364351581[/url]' post='1042482']
It is Day 2. 26 hours and 27 minutes remaining
26Players still alive: Ampelas, Ay Estos, Bek Okhan, Bendal Home, D'riss, Demelain, Desra, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Karosis, Kilava, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Omtose, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Tellan, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama

14 votes to lynch, 13 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Tellan )
1 Vote for Ryllandaras ( Bendal Home )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Ay Estos, Bek Okhan, D'riss, Demelain, Desra, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Karosis, Kilava, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Omtose, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama


Twenty six players left. We started with 28 and 1 was lynched and 3 NKd. Only two have activated new alts. I think Jester lost and left the game, not sure about the others.


When will you accept this? Nenanda cannot possibly be back alive because PS explicitly said so.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 02:48 AM

View PostRyllandaras, on 27 March 2013 - 02:45 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 March 2013 - 02:33 AM, said:

It is Day 2. 26 hours and 27 minutes remaining
26Players still alive: Ampelas, Ay Estos, Bek Okhan, Bendal Home, D'riss, Demelain, Desra, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Karosis, Kilava, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Omtose, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Tellan, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama

14 votes to lynch, 13 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Tellan )
1 Vote for Ryllandaras ( Bendal Home )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Ay Estos, Bek Okhan, D'riss, Demelain, Desra, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Karosis, Kilava, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Omtose, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama


Twenty six players left. We started with 28 and 1 was lynched and 3 NKd. Only two have activated new alts. I think Jester lost and left the game, not sure about the others.




Uh, no.


Twenty-eight players. One lynched (Eloth). One NKed (Aranatha). 26 players.

Two new alts enter day 2 - Ay Estos, Bek Okhan. 28 again.

Nenanda and Denesmat die during day 2. Back to 26 again.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:07 AM

And will probably be back to 28 come Day 3.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:11 AM

Assuming there are no NK's, of course

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:12 AM

View PostEloth, on 26 March 2013 - 06:05 PM, said:

The worst part of this lynch train is that half my team are the ones who more or less started it.

Chew on that for a while.



View PostPath-Shaper, on 26 March 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

Day 1 ended with 3 hours and 21 minutes remaining

28 Players still alive: Ampelas, Aranatha, Bendal Home, D'riss, Demelain, Denesmet, Desra, Eloth, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Karosis, Kilava, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nenanda, Omtose, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Tellan, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama

15 votes to lynch, 14 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for D'riss ( Ultama )
3 Votes for Ryllandaras ( Bendal Home, Nenanda, Monok Ochem )
1 Vote for Tellan ( Prazec Goul )
15 Votes for Eloth ( Ryllandaras, Fanderay, Kilava, Karosis, Ampelas, Liosan, Denesmet, Mockra, Silchas Ruin, Desra, Tellan, Trake, Skintick, Eloth, Demelain )
1 Vote for Fanderay ( Aranatha )

Players not voted: D'riss, Galayn Lord, Korbas, Korlat, Omtose, Rashan, Tulas Shorn

**vote order manually fixed in the above

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"Presidente, we have received a tip-off of a spy operating on our grounds. We have detained her, but rumors on the street are strong of her actually being in league with your... off-shore investments. What do you want us to do?"

"Did you interrogate her?"

"We did, Presidente."

"And?"

"She denies all involvement with your international backers."

"She looks like Greta Garbo..." Hugo Gremio mused, chewing on the tip of his moustacho.
he lit a cigar. "If the rumors are true, I am sure a lapse would be forgiven in these times of crisis, wouldn't you agree? Besides, it is not like my friends in the world informed me of her presence. So, because she is a trespassing spy, and because I hate that thirties-look, let's make an example of her. Kill her."

Eloth is dead. She was Isabelle Paix.


I'm surprised no one has delved into Eloth's unhealthy distaste for her team. I question whether Ryll would be on her team (seeing that she was pushing for his lynch in a pinch), but for the rest of the early votes on Eloth's train, it may be worth considering them her team. Question is, what is her team: scum or town?

This also brings into consideration the team size question. Eloth expounded at great length as to team size, an interesting point given she knew everyone on her team and thus had at least half of the equation. I still am trying to figure out which dynamics she seemed to prefer the most (even though, she could easily be misleading us, just as she was feigning ignorance of the Leveling up post).

Finally, this brings us to today. Do we want to pursue a lynch on Eloth's newest alt, even if it doesn't get a faction till the final lynch (or kill)?

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:22 AM

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 27 March 2013 - 03:11 AM, said:

Assuming there are no NK's, of course


We could assume any NKs would also respawn, leaving us at 28, again. It might be a while before we actually lose a player unless we try to target those already down an alt. We could put a second of Eloth's or Aranatha's alts down today, but we wouldn't be able to tell who their third alt was with so many respawns due to the two additional day kills.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:29 AM

View PostDemelain, on 27 March 2013 - 03:22 AM, said:

View PostSilchas Ruin, on 27 March 2013 - 03:11 AM, said:

Assuming there are no NK's, of course


We could assume any NKs would also respawn, leaving us at 28, again. It might be a while before we actually lose a player unless we try to target those already down an alt. We could put a second of Eloth's or Aranatha's alts down today, but we wouldn't be able to tell who their third alt was with so many respawns due to the two additional day kills.



sure you would. All it takes is looking who uses what to quote stuff.


more to the point, less snarky--we should lynch who we think is scum.

DO we think Michelle Paix (the Syndicate from Spycraft) was scum?

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:31 AM

wow, i'm sleep-deprived AND partially drunk. that shoulda been Isabelle Paix

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:35 AM

How bout you Bek. Care to comment on why you sound more like aranatha, who was expecting a shitty day like the one you currently seem to be experiencing?

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:36 AM

View PostBek Okhan, on 27 March 2013 - 03:31 AM, said:

wow, i'm sleep-deprived AND partially drunk. that shoulda been Isabelle Paix



I've got the opposite problem - I'm completely sober, which makes it strangely hard to focus on the game.

Everyone's kind of blurring together.

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