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MAFIA 100 - The Centennial Game Thread

#5081 User is offline   Sukul Ankhadu 

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:00 PM

View PostTulas Shorn, on 24 April 2013 - 05:53 PM, said:

View PostSukul Ankhadu, on 24 April 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:


Did you really just say "fair mechanic"???

What game have you been playing because it damn sure isn't this one.


So you are trying to say that not only do I have to kill 81 other alts run by 27 people, but I also have to avoid being killed by the game master who made up the rules? Yeah...I'm saying "fair mechanic"



I never said that any particular mechanic is fair or unfair. But the word "fair" hardly belongs in a game that includes Roleless Discoer, pellet launcher, Shen Pai, etc alongside Hassan, Amon, Tyrant Steve, etc.

As for the mod puppet being able or unable to affect outcomes I think you're not giving D'rek enough credit on two fronts:

Planning: I suspect that the puppet is there in the first place as a tool of last resort to keep any one character from dominating the game from the beginning. As the game has progressed the need for that tool is less and less. Which is why we've seen less of it. Just my opinion.

Rules: From what I've seen, D'rek is very much a believer in the letter of the law as well as the spirit. Again, just my opinion, but I suspect that if the rules and mechanics some how worked to a resolution that allowed the Roleless Discoer to be crowned King of the Roman Senate with Tyrant Steve as a footrest, then that is what would have happened.


#5082 User is offline   Kessobahn 

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 10:29 PM

View PostRyadd Eleis, on 24 April 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

Okily dokily. Now that we have ably demonstrated our combined ability to screw ourselves over whilst the SK sits in a corner looking quite bored - poor guy - I think it's time for a new plan. By which I mean, the old plan. Only this time, let's actually do it.

- Lynch Sukul.

- Guard Tulas (and do whatever else it was that happened last night to ensure zero deaths).

- Lynch Dejim

- New Dejim does whatever it is that he wishes to do against the SK.



I feel our current predicament runs an age-old story/movie trope (aside from the, uh, standing around thumb twiddling navel-gazing):

Step 1: Bad guys run amok. The citizens need protection from these scummy ne'er do wells.

Step 2: Short-sighted government/science types create a weapon to combat the bad guys - a weapon hopelessly beyond their control.

Step 3: Weapon, predictably, breaks free from the illusion of control, runs amok in ways which make the citizens wish for the original bad guys to come back.

Step 4: Outcast hero-type with point to prove/seeking redemption comes along to save the day.


Uh, any volunteers for step 4? :)


This made me laugh. You're o.k. in my books.

#5083 User is offline   Dejim Nebrahl 

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 10:43 PM

Well, shit all happened other than people lying to each other with shrugs and half-grins. Fucking groundhog day.

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#5084 User is offline   Kessobahn 

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 10:51 PM

All right, I'm caught up.

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View PostNimander Golit, on 24 April 2013 - 04:53 PM, said:

Im wonder why certain people feel lynching sukul is a good idea when he is the only person i know that can kill tulas?.....am i missing something?




Dejim seems to believe he can have a hand in killing Tulas. And I would much rather put our chances in Dejim's hands than Sukul's. In any case, Sukul has just admitted to not even targetting Tulas.


I'm thinking it might make more sense to take out Dejim before going after Sukul. At least with Dejim around, and maybe another means of killing Tulas, we'll double our chances of someone targeting the SK. Sukul has been lying for the last few days, but when push comes to shove Sukul might need another person backing him/her up against Tulas. We could say that, once Dejim is in his new alt, we give Sukul a chance for them to double team the SK. If that doesn't happen, we kill off Sukul. And if Sukul does not agree to this, then we lynch him today and hope that Dejim can carry the game.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 10:54 PM

down side is any town killer we gained from Delim would be exposed to scum assault if there is a screw up

miserable bunch of lying scum


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#5086 User is offline   Tulas Shorn 

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 11:04 PM

View PostKessobahn, on 24 April 2013 - 10:51 PM, said:

All right, I'm caught up.

View PostRyadd Eleis, on 24 April 2013 - 04:57 PM, said:

View PostNimander Golit, on 24 April 2013 - 04:53 PM, said:

Im wonder why certain people feel lynching sukul is a good idea when he is the only person i know that can kill tulas?.....am i missing something?




Dejim seems to believe he can have a hand in killing Tulas. And I would much rather put our chances in Dejim's hands than Sukul's. In any case, Sukul has just admitted to not even targetting Tulas.


I'm thinking it might make more sense to take out Dejim before going after Sukul. At least with Dejim around, and maybe another means of killing Tulas, we'll double our chances of someone targeting the SK. Sukul has been lying for the last few days, but when push comes to shove Sukul might need another person backing him/her up against Tulas. We could say that, once Dejim is in his new alt, we give Sukul a chance for them to double team the SK. If that doesn't happen, we kill off Sukul. And if Sukul does not agree to this, then we lynch him today and hope that Dejim can carry the game.



Sounds like something that someone who is protecting a teammate would say. I was leaning towards Korv... but this post is stinky.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 11:10 PM

I'm open for both options Tulas. It would of course smell bad to you, because the entire proposition concerns your death.

#5088 User is offline   Dejim Nebrahl 

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 11:11 PM

You're stinky!

/5 year old.

I'm assuming shenanigans would be put on hold for a minimum of a couple of nights. If Sukul doesn't agree then I'll take my name off the plate. Maybe we don't need Sukul, but he provides a force multiplier for sure.

#5089 User is offline   Sukul Ankhadu 

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 11:22 PM

Oh. Tulas who do you think the guard is?

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 11:25 PM

View PostDejim Nebrahl, on 24 April 2013 - 11:11 PM, said:

You're stinky!

/5 year old.

I'm assuming shenanigans would be put on hold for a minimum of a couple of nights. If Sukul doesn't agree then I'll take my name off the plate. Maybe we don't need Sukul, but he provides a force multiplier for sure.


If you're not comfortable with Sukul around, we can fix that today with a lynch. Your call.

#5091 User is offline   Dejim Nebrahl 

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 11:26 PM

It shouldn't matter.

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If you don't want to play ball at all I say we just lynch you.

#5092 User is offline   Sukul Ankhadu 

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 11:32 PM

View PostKessobahn, on 24 April 2013 - 11:25 PM, said:

View PostDejim Nebrahl, on 24 April 2013 - 11:11 PM, said:

You're stinky!

/5 year old.

I'm assuming shenanigans would be put on hold for a minimum of a couple of nights. If Sukul doesn't agree then I'll take my name off the plate. Maybe we don't need Sukul, but he provides a force multiplier for sure.


If you're not comfortable with Sukul around, we can fix that today with a lynch. Your call.



You might want to give that a re-think. Somebody killed Korabas. I know it wasn't moi. TS says there is a second goodkinder out there. And TS swears that he didn't kill Korabas.

So my math isn't very good. But I think that 3 NKs trump a guard.

#5093 User is offline   Sukul Ankhadu 

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 11:35 PM

I'm thinking it's either Korv or Galain. What do you think TS?

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 11:44 PM

So instead of lynching me, why don't we all calmly discuss what happens if 3 killers decide that the guard should be removed.

:)

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 11:45 PM

So then we get rid of the unnecessary and outed killer. Which is you. Talking yourself into a lynch.

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#5096 User is offline   Dejim Nebrahl 

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 11:46 PM

I love how someone who was so gung-ho on Tulas has now been worked into being lynched because of him.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 11:46 PM

View PostSukul Ankhadu, on 24 April 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 24 April 2013 - 11:25 PM, said:

View PostDejim Nebrahl, on 24 April 2013 - 11:11 PM, said:

You're stinky!

/5 year old.

I'm assuming shenanigans would be put on hold for a minimum of a couple of nights. If Sukul doesn't agree then I'll take my name off the plate. Maybe we don't need Sukul, but he provides a force multiplier for sure.


If you're not comfortable with Sukul around, we can fix that today with a lynch. Your call.



You might want to give that a re-think. Somebody killed Korabas. I know it wasn't moi. TS says there is a second goodkinder out there. And TS swears that he didn't kill Korabas.

So my math isn't very good. But I think that 3 NKs trump a guard.



Can't trust your word, or Tulas', for obvious reasons. That said, if by some chance you're both telling the truth, why has mystery killer not helped out with the Tulas situation?

#5098 User is offline   Dejim Nebrahl 

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 11:47 PM

View PostSukul Ankhadu, on 24 April 2013 - 11:44 PM, said:

So instead of lynching me, why don't we all calmly discuss what happens if 3 killers decide that the guard should be removed.

:)


If two dumbfuck Goodkind killers can't kill Tulas then none of you are worth a damn.

Let's discuss that?

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 11:52 PM

View PostSukul Ankhadu, on 24 April 2013 - 11:35 PM, said:

I'm thinking it's either Korv or Galain. What do you think TS?


I think its galain or Okral. Thats who I had it down as.

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 11:54 PM

View PostSukul Ankhadu, on 24 April 2013 - 11:44 PM, said:

So instead of lynching me, why don't we all calmly discuss what happens if 3 killers decide that the guard should be removed.

:)



I haven't submitted my provisional yet. I could go for Galain you do Okral and Other goodkinder does Whoever. I'm pretty sure that there are healing catapults going off. So we'd need to get that person as well.

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