[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 34 hours and 59 minutes remaining
8 Players still alive: Bonecaster, Hiddenone, Hinter, Lady Bliss, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Tapper ( Lady Bliss )

Players not voted: Bonecaster, Hiddenone, Hinter, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail

[HiddenOne]

Tattersail, on 22 January 2013 - 07:51 PM, said:

That would make Khell scum, linked with Tapper and The Dude? Its a bit of a stretch in my opinion, Hinter would be included as well which created too big a list, if we are down to one scum and no night kill happened then that leaves whoever was away from thread, Tapper and Silencer come to mind, who else?

have to agree, seems like too much

but both Taps and Silencer are vets, you'd think they would leave provisionals but anybody can get caught with the pants down

[HiddenOne]

looks like all the mafia pros are playing eclipse

hey PS, got any hints for us?

[Path-Shaper]

Don't look directly into the sun without proper eye protection. Doing so can cause permit eye damage.

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 16 January 2013 - 09:58 PM, said:

Okay, so let me get this straight, because I called Bonecaster a dirty newbie, Khell copied me, Tapper talked about some dirty stilton, and then I commented about how agreeing with Khell makes me feel unclean, we're a scum team? Really? That case is stronger than Tattersail trying to manipulate the newbie and spazzing out over 2 votes? Wow... Here I thought I understood Mafia. Thank you for disabusing me of that notion.

I have obviously hit some nerves in the Tattersail accusations, so I'm going to back off for now.

Now that HO has checked in, however, I think we should vote him off. I know for a fact that he's been keeping up with the thread before he was subbed in for Brujah (he was often seen as one of the Users reading this topic at the bottom), so he should definitely have some opinions.

vote HiddenOne

Sixty, on 16 January 2013 - 10:35 PM, said:

Bliss's case pretty strong as far as day one signaling cases go. I hadn't noticed the "dirty" bit, which I pretty much wrote off as just ripping on the newbie.

@Blend: Tatts' reaction is about as strong of a case, I'd say, but that's the randomness of day one for you.

Bonecaster, on 16 January 2013 - 10:35 PM, said:

Blend was one of my favorite characters. So cool that she thought the power was in the (iirc?) pebble, and tried giving it to Quick. I'm gonna be sad to see Blend go, since it looks like it's going that way. But votes change an awful lot around here, so I'm not putting money on it. Heh.


Really not sure about casting a vote, though.

Sixty, on 16 January 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 16 January 2013 - 10:39 PM, said:

Sixty, on 16 January 2013 - 10:35 PM, said:

Bliss's case pretty strong as far as day one signaling cases go. I hadn't noticed the "dirty" bit, which I pretty much wrote off as just ripping on the newbie.

@Blend: Tatts' reaction is about as strong of a case, I'd say, but that's the randomness of day one for you.

In my case anyway that's exactly what it was. And he is a dirty newbie.

I'm thinking it would be funny if Bliss was just looking out for the newbie and actually got scum by dumb luck.



In any case I don't trust signaling cases, even if Bliss has more merit than most.
On the other hand Tatts' reaction was definitely a bit much.

Vote Tattersail

Sixty, on 16 January 2013 - 10:48 PM, said:

Blend, on 16 January 2013 - 10:47 PM, said:

Bah, clearly I played this one wrong. But hey, you let Bliss lead you all by the nose because of a few of us calling Bonecaster a filthy newbie. I won't feel bad when you let scum win if you guys rely on bogus cases like that.

Oh please. 3 votes and you're suddenly all mopey?

Out for real now.

The Dude, on 16 January 2013 - 11:23 PM, said:

The Bliss argument is interesting... I've voted for lesser offenses. It might actually be a good catch.

I was all set to vote tattersail until I came back and saw Khell's vote. I'd still be willing to go that way. Currently I would vote for:

Khell
Tattersail
Bliss

I'd be ok with any of those. I re-read the Blend thing and it really seems like a case of pushing a crap case to try to get a lynch. I don't like how the train picked up from 0-60 in no time at all. That is fishy. I'm not discounting Blend as scum, but the way in which that train started has me suspicious.

Silencer, on 17 January 2013 - 01:22 AM, said:

And before anybody jumps down my throat - I'm being dead serious here. You are all drawing connections and finding multiple scum candidates on day one. I know there is never much to go on for a day one case but y'all are being very assertive about your opinions. I seriously doubt any of the people making waves today are scum.

Silencer, on 17 January 2013 - 01:29 AM, said:

Something like that. There was some messy cross-voting going on after PS' last update that I haven't quite got straight in my head (and CBF doing the mod's job for them ). But it's 3-3 for those two give or take, yeah.

Silencer, on 17 January 2013 - 02:20 AM, said:

Not that that's saying much in this crowd, Sixty. Especially given the utter lack of reasonable content posted so far.

For what it's worth, we do still need to lynch, even if it's blind and not gonna give us a CF. With that in mind I'll be dropping a vote before I head out in just over an hour.

Silencer, on 17 January 2013 - 03:03 AM, said:

Bonecaster, on 17 January 2013 - 02:53 AM, said:

Silencer, on 17 January 2013 - 02:20 AM, said:

For what it's worth, we do still need to lynch, even if it's blind and not gonna give us a CF. With that in mind I'll be dropping a vote before I head out in just over an hour.

We don't NEED to lynch, do we? The day will end in a few hours anyway won't it?

Welcome to Mafia 101: Town must always lynch except in the rare case in Endgame where not lynching narrows the pool of suspects but staves off "D-day" for another day - and even then it is debatable. The reasoning behind this is that Town's ONLY weapon is lynching - letting killers run rampant and go on NK'ing without even taking the chance of reducing their numbers or gaining info is bad town play. Lynches tell us things. Lynches have an X out of Y chance of being randomly right. And we have zero other ways of taking down scum (unless there is a vigilante role in the game, but meh, they never work).

So best practice is to never let day end without a lynch.


(Note: while I speak as if this is infallible logic, it is obviously not the Word of God and there are circumstances where lynching makes things worse for town than otherwise - but most people will still argue that you should lynch regardless, thus we get the above viewpoint. There are also exceptions in games that have weird setups. But for basic mafia this is pretty much taken as Gospel truth (it's why people have been trying to get you to vote Night - it's a N00b mistake. As is letting day time out without a lynch. Makes you look scummy as fuck when you're not new - and even when you are, it's a reasonable sticking point )

You're welcome.

I'm on my phone here ...

[HiddenOne]

What are you doing Tatts?

[Tattersail_]

Right its not going to work you'll have to wait until tomorrow.

In response to Lady Bliss, it could be Tapper. I think it could also be Silencer. At a stretch Sixty.

I personally think Silencer. His mafia 101 post above about lynching. Then his non vote or choosing to abstain today. There's a post somewhere playing down lynching Blend or should I say there is not much merit in a Blend or Tatts lynch
I'll look for that tomorrow.

Bonecasters post above about his favourite character being Blend doesn't sir right but I'm putting that down to being a newb.

Sixty I'll have to look more at, reading some of his posts above combined with the start of day two irk me somewhat but I cannot put a finger on it.

Some discussion tonight from all you would be good.

[Path-Shaper]

HiddenOne, on 22 January 2013 - 10:09 PM, said:

What are you doing Tatts?

Obviously he is on his phone pushing buttons...

[Bonecaster]

Tattersail, on 22 January 2013 - 10:11 PM, said:

Bonecasters post above about his favourite character being Blend doesn't sir right but I'm putting that down to being a newb.

Heh. Yeah, I hoped all would understand that it was me saying, "I don't have a fucking clue how to go about playing this game, so I'll vote by who I like in the books." Funny? Hello? *crickets chirp* But I just cast the final vote against Blend, so I hope that answers the question.

[Tattersail_]

Bonecaster, on 22 January 2013 - 10:24 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 22 January 2013 - 10:11 PM, said:

Bonecasters post above about his favourite character being Blend doesn't sir right but I'm putting that down to being a newb.

Heh. Yeah, I hoped all would understand that it was me saying, "I don't have a fucking clue how to go about playing this game, so I'll vote by who I like in the books." Funny? Hello? *crickets chirp* But I just cast the final vote against Blend, so I hope that answers the question.

Yeah that could be considered as distancing seemas he looked ready for the chop, Khell and Gust Hubby have used that tactic in the past

I swear to God that shitty sentence is my phone combined with laziness

[Tattersail_]

But I do doubt it was.

[Hinter]

Lady Bliss, on 22 January 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

...snip...

The signalling here looks apparent. I googled "dirty" Stilton, and did not see a reference to that on the interwebs as a description for Stilton, AND Tapper never voted Blend.
Vote Tapper

At the risk of being accused of symping or fake symping Tapper, and judging by your location, you would not understand what a dirty stilton was because you live in the USA. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the USA and have travelled the country from coast to coast and from north to south. I have eaten excellent food and supped outstanding beers, wines and spirits in many states of your great nation, but you don't do cheese very well.

Don't want to get hung up on this, but it is a real thing and not as rare as Tapper made out.

[Bonecaster]

No sure we do cheese *at all*. Heh.

[Lady Bliss]

Mmmm cheese...

[Hinter]

Just been going through thread from day one to find one of my own quotes and came across the following

Tattersail, on 16 January 2013 - 10:21 AM, said:

Silencer, you've been missed. My play style is loosely based on yours but with less caliber and definitely not as smooth ha.

As it is altless what are we looking out for? How will we have a good indication that we have caught scum?

Obviously Silencer replied with an eight page essay as he always seems to do, and Tatts is far too experienced for such obvious symping, but...

Anyway, the quote I was looking for was this:

Hinter, on 16 January 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

A thought occurs - Bubba wanted 12 or 16 players? This must have something to do with the mechanic surely?

Edited to insert "players"

No one responded to this, but in the light of Blend's post that we have three teams of four scum (and obviously if this was true no one would admit it) I do believe that four is an important number. Therefore find the two players most connected to the Dude and Blend and town win. Simples "chirp".

So that is what I am about to do...

I am going out, I may be some time...(Cpt Oates to Scott of the Antartctic)

[Hinter]

Early signalling? Thin, I admit.

Blend, on 15 January 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:

So, Bonecaster, welcome to the best game on Earth.

vote Bonecaster

Just so you feel the newbie love!

A few things you need to know:

Never listen to a word Khell says. He is SOMETIMES right, but it's so rare that it's best to just ignore him, mostly. Tatts talks a lot. You only need to pay attention to about 5% of what he says to understand what he means. Brujah is the priest. I'm all knowing. And chickens don't wear pants.

Then we have a couple of Boner's "small c" posts with this response:

Blend, on 15 January 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

Sixty, on 15 January 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

Bonecaster, on 15 January 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

Still small c.

What does that even mean? I don't trust you already.

People have been calling him BoneCaster, when his name is actually Bonecaster.

Again, a minor thing but connects to Boner...

More to come

[Hinter]

Another connection, and I'm only several pages into the thread:

Blend, on 15 January 2013 - 07:35 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 15 January 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

Blend, Bliss, Bonecaster, Brujah - too many B names. I propose we get rid of one to make life simpler. Mafia thrives on simplicity.

Yet another reason to lynch that dirty newbie.

As an aside, isn't Bliss's username Ornery Owl now?

I admit these are all thin but they add up. From the start Blend constantly had a go at "the filthy newby"

[Lady Bliss]

Hinter said:

1358899584[/url]' post='1025674']
Another connection, and I'm only several pages into the thread:

Blend said:

1358278521[/url]' post='1024137']

Khellendros said:

1358278435[/url]' post='1024136']
Blend, Bliss, Bonecaster, Brujah - too many B names. I propose we get rid of one to make life simpler. Mafia thrives on simplicity.

Yet another reason to lynch that dirty newbie.

As an aside, isn't Bliss's username Ornery Owl now?

I admit these are all thin but they add up. From the start Blend constantly had a go at "the filthy newby"

Hmm interesting. That could be distancing. And the hammer vote when all was inevitable...

[Hinter]

Bonecaster, on 15 January 2013 - 09:30 PM, said:

Blend, on 15 January 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

Sixty, on 15 January 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

Bonecaster, on 15 January 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

Still small c.

What does that even mean? I don't trust you already.

People have been calling him BoneCaster, when his name is actually Bonecaster.

Thank you.

Blend, on 15 January 2013 - 07:35 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 15 January 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

Blend, Bliss, Bonecaster, Brujah - too many B names. I propose we get rid of one to make life simpler. Mafia thrives on simplicity.

Yet another reason to lynch that dirty newbie.

Fuck you.


Hey, I think I'm getting the hang of this!

Hinter, on 15 January 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

Am now following the duck with a lovely ripe brie and a creamy stilton.

You are the Godfather!

One moment I'm the Godfather, but then Blend posts...

Bonecaster, on 15 January 2013 - 09:41 PM, said:

Blend, on 15 January 2013 - 09:36 PM, said:

Bonecaster, on 15 January 2013 - 09:30 PM, said:

Fuck you.

I take exception to the use of that kind of language in a Mafia thread.

Sorry. No more shit, piss, fuck, c**t, cocksucker, motherfucker, or tits. You're the new Godfather, since that loser reacted the way he did to my complimenting his cooking.

And Boner has a new Godfather - I think he's getting mafia (some Italian organised crime thing) confused with Mafia but the signalling seems to be there.

Edited ti insert confused into tha last sentence.

This post has been edited by Hinter: 23 January 2013 - 12:19 AM

[Lady Bliss]

Would thyme go with a goat cheese and tomato tart? I has no basil!