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#2421 User is offline   Tattersail_ 

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:44 AM

So I worked out with your 12 Science next go you can max out your middle track, buying gauss shield, fusion source and tachyon drive.

That would give you extra VP's.

Currently your combined hexes give you 12 VP's. Not icnluding Shrines or anything.

If you had Zeta rather than Sigma you'd gain 1 VP. Or if you had both you'd gain 2 VP.

Influence Epsilon and Aurigai and you have another 2VP's

Finally see what EM would do if you wanted his homeworld hex, would he give you less resistance than say Twelve and CF? Then you come in a different way and take that for the extra VP's.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:21 PM

Or build 2 shrines for an extra 2 VPs, research orbitals next round and drop as much materials as you can into monoliths. You'd get at least 9, maybe 12 additional VPs through that if you really commit.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:23 PM

View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 28 February 2013 - 12:21 PM, said:

Or build 2 shrines for an extra 2 VPs, research orbitals next round and drop as much materials as you can into monoliths. You'd get at least 9, maybe 12 additional VPs through that if you really commit.


So he can end up like me? No military might, no materials to build and you and Twelve swooping in?

research Monoliths and place them last minute maybe?
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:05 PM

I meant to say monoliths...sorry. Still early.

Thing is, he has a pretty effective defense against twelve and I with his -2 missile shields, and we stand to gain so little from attacking that we're better hedging our bets on the fight against IH and D'rek. Us "sweeping in" would require that we pretty much abandon all else in the West because even with our good economy, we're still limited in the actions we can take in a phase.

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Wondering what you'd like to do about my planned absence next week. I think I mentioned it WAAAAAAY upthread and figured the game would be done by now, but with it entering its final exciting phases I figured you'd like a chance to re-evaluate before I drop off the face of the planet. I'll be in a backcountry area with zero access to anything except food and liquor (that I bring with me).


I'll be around until the end of the workday tomorrow and if you're all happy to take a break until next thursday then great. If you'd rather not pause the game then I'm 100% fine with that too and will hand over control of the mechanema collective to my friend and ally, Twelve.


If option number 2 is preferred, would it be ok for me to send Twelve a quick private communiqué outlining my general plans for this phase and next? We've been keeping it pretty open so far, but in this special instance I think it would be appropriate for me to convey the gist of my strategy without laying it bare for the rest.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:49 PM

View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 28 February 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

If option number 2 is preferred, would it be ok for me to send Twelve a quick private communiqué outlining my general plans for this phase and next? We've been keeping it pretty open so far, but in this special instance I think it would be appropriate for me to convey the gist of my strategy without laying it bare for the rest.


Sure. There's nothing in the rules against whispering in the player next to you's ear. IH and I have done some off-thread chatting, didn't think it would even be an issue.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:57 PM

All this drama and backstabbing is beautiful to behold. I don't think I've ever seen a player completely exterminated outside of these forum games.

Remember to count me in for the next game :p
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#2427 User is offline   Tattersail_ 

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:01 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 28 February 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

All this drama and backstabbing is beautiful to behold. I don't think I've ever seen a player completely exterminated outside of these forum games.

Remember to count me in for the next game :p


I entered suicide mode, it's been a beautiful game, a real eye opener.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:18 PM

Ok. Best I hand off control to Twelve for next week then?

Matters not to me. I don't want to hold up the game unless everyone else is totally cool with it.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:28 PM

View PostTattersail, on 28 February 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 28 February 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

All this drama and backstabbing is beautiful to behold. I don't think I've ever seen a player completely exterminated outside of these forum games.

Remember to count me in for the next game :p


I entered suicide mode, it's been a beautiful game, a real eye opener.


D'rek is surprisingly fond of killing people.
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#2430 User is offline   Tattersail_ 

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:45 PM

View PostMorgoth, on 28 February 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:

View PostTattersail, on 28 February 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 28 February 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

All this drama and backstabbing is beautiful to behold. I don't think I've ever seen a player completely exterminated outside of these forum games.

Remember to count me in for the next game :p


I entered suicide mode, it's been a beautiful game, a real eye opener.


D'rek is surprisingly fond of killing people.


Did you read earlier in the game? There was an ancient on Vega, I hadn't went into any battles or anything at that time but wanted to plants in that hex. I went for it, ended up passing and then D'rek jumps in after me and ends up winning the hex.

Later on I was gearing up for war, I could have went for her in a big way but I wanted to research instead, I asked her if she would leave me alone and she said she would. At the time, Twelve and Cf were attacking her and IH so I thought she'd hold true to her word. I used my goes to influence some hexes and build orbitals. Next thing I know, she is attacking me again. She also had Neutron Bombs, so it was either surrender my homeworld and another hex which was 5 VP in total or go balls out and die but have fun doing it.

I ended up winning both my battles, the highlight being my lone interceptor against her super cruiser. I had better initiative but no defense, I had to roll a 6 to win. I rolled a 6.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 03:25 PM

This is why I love Eclipse :p

But yeah, I did read the thread, although I skimmed in parts
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 03:38 PM

View PostD, on 28 February 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 28 February 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

If option number 2 is preferred, would it be ok for me to send Twelve a quick private communiqué outlining my general plans for this phase and next? We've been keeping it pretty open so far, but in this special instance I think it would be appropriate for me to convey the gist of my strategy without laying it bare for the rest.


Sure. There's nothing in the rules against whispering in the player next to you's ear. IH and I have done some off-thread chatting, didn't think it would even be an issue.



Well jees. I felt bad about all the back and forth with both Tats and CF in the earlier rounds that I basically told them to keep it on thread as this was a table top game. Otherwise I wouldn't have been saying most of what I have on thread and kept it between just us.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 03:41 PM

View PostTattersail, on 28 February 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 28 February 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

All this drama and backstabbing is beautiful to behold. I don't think I've ever seen a player completely exterminated outside of these forum games.

Remember to count me in for the next game :D


I entered suicide mode, it's been a beautiful game, a real eye opener.



Yeah my suicide last game probably could have been survived if I had actually won one of my battles but yours was a beauty to see. Too bad D'rek still ended up with your homewold. Going near last almost every round certainly has it's disadvantages.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 03:43 PM

View Posttwelve, on 28 February 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:

View PostTattersail, on 28 February 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

View PostMorgoth, on 28 February 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

All this drama and backstabbing is beautiful to behold. I don't think I've ever seen a player completely exterminated outside of these forum games.

Remember to count me in for the next game :D


I entered suicide mode, it's been a beautiful game, a real eye opener.



Yeah my suicide last game probably could have been survived if I had actually won one of my battles but yours was a beauty to see. Too bad D'rek still ended up with your homewold. Going near last almost every round certainly has it's disadvantages.


I say going first early on is great as you get the research but later on you want to go last so you know what the bastards are trying to do. (language to be excused due to my almost finishing Deadhouse Gates, fucking awesome)
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 04:23 PM

Not to challenge the authority of the mod, but in my opinion boardgames should be played in the dedicated thread and not through pms (Diplomacy not included for obvious reasons)
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 04:44 PM

I'm here, I haven't forgotten about this, though my excited spamming in mafia may have made it seem like I have. But it's easier to do that than think through this game's crazy various permutations. As it is, I've been solidly working on various options FOR THE LAST HOUR, and should have a move of some description momentarily. Currently see-sawing between two...
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 04:54 PM

@morgy

That was Twelve's stance when I PM'd him early-on about a possible alliance, and he told me as much. I agree with it, though it was never officially stated as a rule.

It added a really cool depth to the strategy IMO, trying to get Twelve to coordinate with me and vice versa without either of us giving too much away to the other players. There were all kinds of things I had all written out and ready to post, and then deleted because I didn't want to tip my hand.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 05:03 PM

View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 28 February 2013 - 04:54 PM, said:

@morgy

That was Twelve's stance when I PM'd him early-on about a possible alliance, and he told me as much. I agree with it, though it was never officially stated as a rule.

It added a really cool depth to the strategy IMO, trying to get Twelve to coordinate with me and vice versa without either of us giving too much away to the other players. There were all kinds of things I had all written out and ready to post, and then deleted because I didn't want to tip my hand.


Which is exactly what a good game session should be like :D
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 05:05 PM

RESEARCH Shellworld, place in Gamma Velorum, put down a Science cube on it.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 05:06 PM

@ CF I see your game. Convince Khell to expend all his resources on dotting monoliths all over the place, then swoop in and steal his hexes :D Or am I just paranoid? :D
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