[Tattersail_]

D, on 20 February 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 20 February 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

D, on 20 February 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 20 February 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

Hmm, I need a run down on what I can do.

How many moves? I don't care about having any influence discs on hexes. I just want to see the world burn.

Lay it on me, how many moves before I cannot move at all?

I'm thinking of suping up the interceptor, moving to defend all three hexes.

After my latest Move, you have 3 discs left in your influence track. Each one can be used either to make a Move Reaction (one activation of a ship), an Upgrade Reaction (remove unlimited ship parts and then add one ship part) or Build Reaction (build a single thing).

So I can say this go upgrade the interceptor once, then next go upgrade again, then next go move my dread?

You can upgrade your interceptor once, then next go upgrade it again, but you still can't move your dread because it is pinned.

Khellendros, on 20 February 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

D, on 20 February 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 20 February 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

That is, if cubes aren't removed along with influence discs, is that right?

Just in case you weren't joking... cubes are removed with discs when you Influence or go bankrupt. (They are moved to the graveyards if they are killed in combat)

Hahaha! I think I've almost made D'rek's head explode with the sheer inanity of my comment. How many deep breaths did you have to take before responding?

*hyperventilates furiously*

Why can my cruiser not be pinned instead?

[Tattersail_]

Khellendros, on 20 February 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 20 February 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

Twelve, CF, what is the best way to do two upgrades to my interceptor to have a good shot of beating D'rek cruiser? Would you do this and move your Dread into Capella?

Why aren't you asking me? I'm around

What do you think of my best way forward? I have 3 moves to hurt her then die.

[D'rek]

Tattersail, on 20 February 2013 - 03:08 PM, said:

Why can my cruiser not be pinned instead?

I have 2 ships in Psi Capricornii, pinning both your 2 ships. You need more ships than there are enemy ships in order to move one out.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail, on 20 February 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 20 February 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 20 February 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

Twelve, CF, what is the best way to do two upgrades to my interceptor to have a good shot of beating D'rek cruiser? Would you do this and move your Dread into Capella?

Why aren't you asking me? I'm around

What do you think of my best way forward? I have 3 moves to hurt her then die.

What about this? You can't outgun her, so try and outlast her. Two improved hulls and an antimatter cannon, over ion cannon, drive (you're not going anywhere anyway), and in that other spot which isn't your source.

[twelve]

Tattersail, on 20 February 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

Upgrade interceptor with anti matter cannon and Zero Point source

You only get one upgrade as a reaction. So you have to do two reactions to get the same result.

[twelve]

Tattersail, on 20 February 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

Twelve, CF, what is the best way to do two upgrades to my interceptor to have a good shot of beating D'rek cruiser? Would you do this and move your Dread into Capella?

Tats. you are hosed. Your only hope is for CF to move ships in to engage D'rek as he doesn't have neutron bombs and might miss destroying your population cubes. Though at this point you probably have irrevocabley bankrupt yourself and your game will truly be over and the only hope you have is to take as many of D'rek's ships down with you as you can.

[twelve]

Tattersail, on 20 February 2013 - 03:08 PM, said:

D, on 20 February 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 20 February 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

D, on 20 February 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 20 February 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

Hmm, I need a run down on what I can do.

How many moves? I don't care about having any influence discs on hexes. I just want to see the world burn.

Lay it on me, how many moves before I cannot move at all?

I'm thinking of suping up the interceptor, moving to defend all three hexes.

After my latest Move, you have 3 discs left in your influence track. Each one can be used either to make a Move Reaction (one activation of a ship), an Upgrade Reaction (remove unlimited ship parts and then add one ship part) or Build Reaction (build a single thing).

So I can say this go upgrade the interceptor once, then next go upgrade again, then next go move my dread?

You can upgrade your interceptor once, then next go upgrade it again, but you still can't move your dread because it is pinned.

Khellendros, on 20 February 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

D, on 20 February 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 20 February 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

That is, if cubes aren't removed along with influence discs, is that right?

Just in case you weren't joking... cubes are removed with discs when you Influence or go bankrupt. (They are moved to the graveyards if they are killed in combat)

Hahaha! I think I've almost made D'rek's head explode with the sheer inanity of my comment. How many deep breaths did you have to take before responding?

*hyperventilates furiously*

Why can my cruiser not be pinned instead?

D'rek has two ships in PSI Capricorni so both of your cruiser and Dread are pinned.

[twelve]

D, on 20 February 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 20 February 2013 - 03:08 PM, said:

Why can my cruiser not be pinned instead?

I have 2 ships in Psi Capricornii, pinning both your 2 ships. You need more ships than there are enemy ships in order to move one out.

Unless like D'rek you have the Cloaking Tech where you need more ships to do the same thing.

[cerveza_fiesta]

Ah shit Twelve, I guess you'll make it up anyway with new territory.

I was going to move my interceptors to support you in IH's home system, which almost certainly would have meant a win even with a pass on your part. Given that I have 1 more move and that it's likely a bad idea for me to have to de-influence anything, where do you want those interceptors? Knowing that D.Corvi is a much more certain bet now, I could plop them both there to ensure a lock + influence on that hex, meaning we control the other viable WH access point to our back door.

OOOh...or I can send ships to beta Centauri to ensure a win there...and IH will be forced to scrap nu phonecis anyway just to pay his upkeep...unless he's thinking of pulling a tattersail and going for broke.

Either way, I see it going around the board maybe 1 more time, so maybe future reactions by the other players are moot.



Man, I didn't count on D'rek abandoning her ally this badly. She could have easily turned that tide with cruisers + missiles in IH's home system.

[Tattersail_]

D, on 20 February 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 20 February 2013 - 03:08 PM, said:

Why can my cruiser not be pinned instead?

I have 2 ships in Psi Capricornii, pinning both your 2 ships. You need more ships than there are enemy ships in order to move one out.

I was viewing the map and didn't see it sorry.

[Khellendros]

cerveza_fiesta, on 20 February 2013 - 03:25 PM, said:

Man, I didn't count on D'rek abandoning her ally this badly. She could have easily turned that tide with cruisers + missiles in IH's home system.

D'rek is totally plotting something sinister. I fear for your chances.

[cerveza_fiesta]

@ Tattersail,

You have 3 reactions available, but only probably 1 more time around the board (at best). Max damage to d'rek will be making sure she can't influence your home system at the end of the round.

Also, looking at the latest board update, didn't Tattersail move that dread to the home system?

[Tattersail_]

Upgrade Cruiser with anti matter cannons instead of nuclear drive.

[Tattersail_]

Thanks for the idea Khell.

[cerveza_fiesta]

your cruiser kinda has to keep the drive component. It's a rule.

[Khellendros]

cerveza_fiesta, on 20 February 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

your cruiser kinda has to keep the drive component. It's a rule.

I thought it was only the source which is a requirement. No drive just leaves your ship dead in the water but still functioning.

[twelve]

cerveza_fiesta, on 20 February 2013 - 03:25 PM, said:

Ah shit Twelve, I guess you'll make it up anyway with new territory.

I was going to move my interceptors to support you in IH's home system, which almost certainly would have meant a win even with a pass on your part. Given that I have 1 more move and that it's likely a bad idea for me to have to de-influence anything, where do you want those interceptors? Knowing that D.Corvi is a much more certain bet now, I could plop them both there to ensure a lock + influence on that hex, meaning we control the other viable WH access point to our back door.

OOOh...or I can send ships to beta Centauri to ensure a win there...and IH will be forced to scrap nu phonecis anyway just to pay his upkeep...unless he's thinking of pulling a tattersail and going for broke.

Either way, I see it going around the board maybe 1 more time, so maybe future reactions by the other players are moot.



Man, I didn't count on D'rek abandoning her ally this badly. She could have easily turned that tide with cruisers + missiles in IH's home system.

Yeah, like I said I wasn't thrilled about having to give up territories to pay for acctions but if I can eliminate territitories from others and not lose ships I'll consider it a win. I'm going to upgrade both my Dread and cruiser with another computer to regain the initivie advantage. That also will give me +6 bonus on my rolls so anything other than a 1 and I will land a hit. So even if IH reacts and sends a Dread to help in the fight I have a very good chance of still destroying both his Dread and Starbase but having just one of your interceptors in Mu Arae would be welcome.

[Tattersail_]

cerveza_fiesta, on 20 February 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

your cruiser kinda has to keep the drive component. It's a rule.

Does it? Damn ha ha, i'm fighting two of her super cruisers, what do you suggest?

[twelve]

Khellendros, on 20 February 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 20 February 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

your cruiser kinda has to keep the drive component. It's a rule.

I thought it was only the source which is a requirement. No drive just leaves your ship dead in the water but still functioning.

No all ships other than starbases have to also have a drive while starbases are not allowed to have a drive. Thems the rules.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail, on 20 February 2013 - 03:38 PM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 20 February 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

your cruiser kinda has to keep the drive component. It's a rule.

Does it? Damn ha ha, i'm fighting two of her super cruisers, what do you suggest?

Yeah, I just checked. It's the other way round, drive is required, but not source (though you need that to have guns! ). I think that's silly.

Hey, perhaps you can upgrade all tiles to drives and hulls, then ram her at super-speed?