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#2601 User is offline   Tattersail_ 

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:46 PM

View Posttwelve, on 19 March 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 19 March 2013 - 09:33 AM, said:

So looking at EM's board we can help only a little in the Twelve/CF take down, I think if we all concentrated on mauling one of the two players then their average will come right down. I can create either 2 cruisers, or a dread, then move into one of their hexes. What are your thoughts D'rek, Khell, IH? I cannot research anything so my weapons are weak and I have low computers. I am prepared to lose 3-4 hexes



Tatts,

You should use this opportunity to get revenge on D'rek and leave CF and me to win the game. Mwhahaha.


I know you are scared. It's okay my dear, i'm the Ghost of EM not Tatts. He would want to punish you me thinks.
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:23 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 19 March 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

View Posttwelve, on 19 March 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 19 March 2013 - 09:33 AM, said:

So looking at EM's board we can help only a little in the Twelve/CF take down, I think if we all concentrated on mauling one of the two players then their average will come right down. I can create either 2 cruisers, or a dread, then move into one of their hexes. What are your thoughts D'rek, Khell, IH? I cannot research anything so my weapons are weak and I have low computers. I am prepared to lose 3-4 hexes



Tatts,

You should use this opportunity to get revenge on D'rek and leave CF and me to win the game. Mwhahaha.


I know you are scared. It's okay my dear, i'm the Ghost of EM not Tatts. He would want to punish you me thinks.


Well think of it as a coup. You are now in charge and can do as you see fit. :p

And no I'm not afraid. Take a couple of hexes from Khell that have shrines and don't lose more than one hex ourselves and I think that will be the game. Khell only has 15 materials to build ships. I'm thinking 2 starbases for sure and probably 2 cruisers after he converts some Science to materials. He can't do too much as he still has to build that science shrine. That's 14 HP from the starbases, and 10 from the cruisers. That is still a lot of hull that we need to cut through but I'm confident that we can take him out where we need to to get the win. Get my dreads involved and I'd be able to cut his army down to size in a hurry. It's not like I need the ships after this round anyway so I'm not afraid to lose them in a fight.
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 09:40 AM

View PostD, on 18 March 2013 - 06:23 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 18 March 2013 - 05:05 PM, said:

Build a shrine to Materials in Alpha Centauri. The. Grid nears completion!


Money

Current amount: 0
Income: 21
Upkeep: -21
New amount: 0

Science:

Current amount: 0
Income: 15
New amount: 15


Materials:

Current amount: 3
Income: 15
New amount: 18



Tatts, D'rek, IH, if you continue to try and hamstring the Bozo Alliance, their defeat will feel like a victory for all of you!


Did you perhaps want to colonize your shellworld at the start of the upkeep phase, too?



Yes? I thought it already had been as soon as I got it? I've counted that in my Science amount.
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 09:46 AM

Are you here all morning? Want to talk strategy?
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:30 AM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 20 March 2013 - 09:46 AM, said:

Are you here all morning? Want to talk strategy?



I'm here for the next couple of hours on and off, yeah. Let me have a look at that there map. The way I see it, the most I can do by myself is to slow down the Dumbo Alliance on their way to my shellworld/homeworld hex - as in, pin some of their ships to other hexes on the way there. Or I could try to build up some form of defence in those hexes.


The advantage that the rest of us have is that we go before them. So maybe we all try to pin as many of their ships as possible to where they are now. before they get that chance to move them?
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:39 AM

Yeah pinning may be a good idea, I could create a few interceptors to do this. I'll have either 4 ships or 3 better ones.
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:40 AM

Where do you see mine being deployed?
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:44 AM

There are two places where they're most likely to come through. From Beta Leonis and Mu Arae. Tatts, you're closest to Beta Leonis, so perhaps you can tie up those ships there? CF's got a host of interceptors teeming in that area.


Even though it's further away from my shellworld, Mu Arae might be the bigger danger, as that entrance into my space is currently entirely unguarded - and there's two possible entryways. That one's gonna take some more thinking.
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:58 AM

Less talky more move-ey

jk...take your time, but we need to get done by the weekend. Wasn't our deadline the 25th?

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 11:02 AM

View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 20 March 2013 - 10:58 AM, said:

Less talky more move-ey

jk...take your time, but we need to get done by the weekend. Wasn't our deadline the 25th?



I'll move much faster CF if you promise not to break our long-standing diplomatic relations :p
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 11:30 AM

Okay provisional upgrade to cruiser, pos computer instead of shield, pos comp instead of hull

going to make sure I hit. If the above seems ridiculous by D'rek, IH then please tell me and i'll change upgrade. I think I'll be battling CF's interceptors this round yes? If that is the case and he gets to go first I may change it so that I have more shield to make sure he doesn't hit...
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 01:30 PM

It seems wrong somehow when the universe cooperates to attack someone that is not Khell.
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 01:49 PM

All the front page stuff except the circle map is updated for the start of the round.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 01:50 PM

@Khell - grab the Artifacts = points development before twelve uses it to get 7 more points...

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 01:56 PM

View PostD, on 20 March 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

@Khell - grab the Artifacts = points development before twelve uses it to get 7 more points...


D'rek do you think my action worthy?
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 01:57 PM

@Morg
Yes, I also find it strange. He's not exactly strong militarily, he doesn't have a lot of actions, and D'rek/IH could be aim for the high-point hexes just as easily as us. With attacks in the right places they could prevent us getting more points or even pull ahead into second place.

Seems better way to win that trying specifically to hinder us, but whatevs, playing to win may have taken a back seat to revenge.

It's also kind of annoying that the Tats/Khell alliance is still going strong despite the fact that it doesn't exist. I dunno, just seems strange to break off the alliance, thus freeing up Khell's VPs, despite having no personal victory-related reason to do so, and then make no real effort to win after breaking things off....but as it's not against the rules, I guess the hegemony can do whatever it wants.

EDIT -

May have put words in IH/D'rek's mouth there. I realize after rereading they haven't really committed to a plan.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:00 PM

View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 20 March 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

@Morg
Yes, I also find it strange. He's not exactly strong militarily and D'rek/IH could be aim for the high-point hexes just as easily as us. With attacks in the right places they could prevent us getting more points or even pull ahead into second place.

Seems better way to win that trying specifically to hinder us, but whatevs, playing to win may have taken a back seat to revenge.

It's also kind of annoying that the Tats/Khell alliance is still going strong despite the fact that it doesn't exist. I dunno, just seems strange to break off the alliance, thus freeing up Khell's VPs, despite having no personal victory-related reason to do so, and then make no real effort to win after breaking things off....but as it's not against the rules, I guess the hegemony can do whatever it wants.


For the Orion Hegemony they think they would be in a better position now if certain engagements between the Human/Machine alliance had not occurred earlier in the game. The Enlightened of Lyra have not attacked ourselves or made any aggressive move towards us, why would we not honour this relationship?
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:05 PM

Khell you can build two Starbases cutting off Mu Arae. What can D'rek and IH bring to the fore?
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:49 PM

View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 20 March 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

@Morg
Yes, I also find it strange. He's not exactly strong militarily, he doesn't have a lot of actions, and D'rek/IH could be aim for the high-point hexes just as easily as us. With attacks in the right places they could prevent us getting more points or even pull ahead into second place.

Seems better way to win that trying specifically to hinder us, but whatevs, playing to win may have taken a back seat to revenge.

It's also kind of annoying that the Tats/Khell alliance is still going strong despite the fact that it doesn't exist. I dunno, just seems strange to break off the alliance, thus freeing up Khell's VPs, despite having no personal victory-related reason to do so, and then make no real effort to win after breaking things off....but as it's not against the rules, I guess the hegemony can do whatever it wants.

EDIT -

May have put words in IH/D'rek's mouth there. I realize after rereading they haven't really committed to a plan.


I have no complaints about players with no real chance of victory trying to screw over those that do. It's basically the way my brothers and I have always operated while gaming growing up. The classic example were the house rules in monopoly where we were about to go bankrupt and then we would sell all of our property to our cousin for next to nothing just so one of our brothers would not get them in bankruptcy. So basically our cousin always won just so one of us wouldn't.
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:55 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 20 March 2013 - 11:30 AM, said:

Okay provisional upgrade to cruiser, pos computer instead of shield, pos comp instead of hull

going to make sure I hit. If the above seems ridiculous by D'rek, IH then please tell me and i'll change upgrade. I think I'll be battling CF's interceptors this round yes? If that is the case and he gets to go first I may change it so that I have more shield to make sure he doesn't hit...



There are a couple of things wrong with this. First you don't have enough power to do these upgrades. The positron computers cost one power so adding two uses up two power and you are already maxed out on the cruiser blueprint. Second, you don't even have the positron compter tech researched and there isn't even an option to research.
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